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Dude needs to take his shitty acting to the General Hospital set.
I had asked you this specific question earlier
that is a VERY honest answer
as usual
In Kerr’s defense, I don’t think this team could’ve made the playoffs if they played the youngsters more.
It's steph
All it is
Cause he is so arrogant he won't just give it to the best player because he likes the idea of it being his system
When in fact when he doesn't have Steph on the court he is a .300 win percentage coach
His system didn't work when Steph was out and KD and Klay and dray were healthy
It's just a clusterfuck along with not developing talent or doing the obvious things lol
Now once again for the 3rd time ppl are in a rush to say dynasty OVER
And I'm glad they are because when they find out it isn't they'll be mute again for the 4th time lol
Completely disagree with that lol
Poole needed to play better
Moody became a reliable playoff contributor after not playing all year
And kuminga was coming on so strong he could have been a difference maker
Instead he chose to play ANTHONY LAMB
all year
1. Steph isn’t lying when he says they don’t win any of those titles without Draymond. And he doesn’t even have to say that about Klay because his contributions are evident to casual fans who only appreciate offense.
Of course it isn’t the system and Steph is the centerpiece but if Today Klay was the Old Klay, this is a championship team again. I think you take it too far saying “It’s Steph- all it is.” It has always been those three guys (led by Steph) and that formula can’t work the same moving forward.
2. The dynasty is over. Dynasty means sustained excellence. Nobody else eats. The no repeat Spurs were not a dynasty. It was stretching it to call this 4/8 run a dynasty but it could be justified because of the injuries and the fact that they NEVER lost with the core out there playing. 4/9, winning less than half the time and being defeated in the second round while relatively healthy, that ain’t part of a dynasty. I hope they win a fifth but I can’t call anything in the future a part of the old dynasty. The core was defeated. That run is over.
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Man, I’m telling, ya. Knicks better stay away from Lillard. He is for short term success. Knicks need to be looking for players to develop with Brunson for long term success.
Lillard is just going to get them a little further in the playoffs. That’s it. Not even finals contention.
Why not?
I think I like this dude’s messages. It’s key to stay humble and don’t overlook cuz that’s how you get caught slippin
It’s no diss to Lillard. It’s that he’s only a short term solution to sell more tickets.
After watching Brunson and his high level IQ on the court who is also ball dominate, I can’t see Lillard helping the development of this team.
I feel like the Knicks should go after players they can develop with Brunson and develop some chemistry.
Remember when people either laffed or said WHO??
When darvin hamm was picked as coach?
So whose more responsible for the Lakers getting to west finals?
Lebron or Darvin?
When darvin hamm was picked as coach?
So whose more responsible for the Lakers getting to west finals?
Lebron or Darvin?
1 you're doing the thing that is set aside for Steph and Steph alone. Pumping up the contributions of the others. Draymond is the defensive anchor and core. Klay is a great player who gets to be a "game 6" player
Me saying it is Steph doesn't mean they don't do shit but ppl only have a problem when you say it's Steph
No problems if you say it's lebron
It's Giannis
It's Jordan
But Steph let's break down how 1 time he got the help he needed and they won lol
Klay didn't need to be the old Klay
Just not absolutely terrible lol he had 2 games he played well out 13?
He can get you 20 points and Poole get you 20 against backups and everything is a cake walk
It is all Steph literally just need a team that can function with him off of the court. In the years they can do that we win. In the years like this one where we can't we lose
Really that simple.
By that logic it was never a dynasty and it's been over not last night
So everyone should stop acting like the Boogeyman is dead cause it's been dead
Right?
I actually agree but who the hell is smart enough to do that on the Knicks executive staff?
and is Thibs the coach for THAT ideal team?
That’s 2012-2013 tho fam. Bron was drafted in 2003. The Big dogs in the West were very active at that time and at least a decade after. Let’s think about the teams Lebron carried. Lebron James and fucking Ira Newble wouldn’t have done shit in the West. Lebron James and big Z wouldn’t have made it to the Conference Finals or Finals like 9 straight times. He would’ve needed AD or somebody else to accomplish that. So I think it would’ve been more accurate to say, Bron and another Superstar could’ve fared well but the East got shitted on back then because they let Bron whoop their ass with G league type talent around him before he went to Miami.
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Man this year especially, it was all Steph. I don't see how anybody can deny that.
Been denying it his entire career
Because if they acknowledge how much of it was and always has been him
Then you cant continue to diminish him as a "shooter" like everyone does
Arguments you'll see made about others he doesn't get that grace
Imagine lebron averaging 31-6-5 and no teammate stepping up and the conversation be about why lebron can't do this or that? Wouldn't happen AND SHOULDN'T happen.
Or how many ppl don't have rings because of Steph
How many franchises have had to REBUILD after running into HIM
How come the ppl who made Steph can't just make another one across multiple teams and incredible talent???
But eh
BenQ, any idea who deleted the post and what/why? I’m always disappointed when someone deletes their dumb shit and you can see the debunking but not the original claim.
They haven't won a chip in 50 years.
Long-term success?
The Knicks have been a long-term failure.
Win now and worry about all the other stuff later.
Wow, now I'm a Steph hater because I don't attribute all of the team's success to that one man.
I watched this team play all year. I watched them win five in a row TWICE without Steph. They were playing to avoid the play-in on the last day of the season and only won 44 games-- that's 22% of their wins right there.
As much as everyone wants to blame Jordan Poole-- and I probably want him gone at this point-- they don't make the playoffs without him. That's not even subject to legitimate debate. Part of why I disagree that Kerr easily could have played the other young guys more at no cost is I watched Anthony Lamb help them win some games this year, while recognizing that it was pitiful that the team needed him.
Yes, many NBA fans ignorantly attribute all of LeBron/Jordan/Duncan/etc's success to that one man. Just because other people make dumb arguments doesn't mean I have to show the same "grace" in favor of someone else.
Anybody saying it was all Steph this year, I question how closely they were paying attention. It was too much "all Steph" when it mattered but I just showed you indisputably how Steph gets zero credit for two five-game stretches that saved their season. I'm not going to disrespect the other contributors to make Curry into a god in order to argue down LeBron stans.
Steph is in Cancun guys. Let's talk about Jokic instead. His team is the #1 seed and he's been balling all year long. Golden State was favored, had home court, and the supposed best player and still blew the series. They're old news and their fans still believe in outdated "ring arguments", it's time to give the new guys who are winning in this era some shine. 
Game 3:
Klay 15pts
Poole 5pts
Game 4:
Klay 9pts
Poole 0pts
Game 5:
Klay 10pts
Poole 11pts
Game 6:
Klay 8pts
Poole 7pts
Klay 15pts
Poole 5pts
Game 4:
Klay 9pts
Poole 0pts
Game 5:
Klay 10pts
Poole 11pts
Game 6:
Klay 8pts
Poole 7pts
No, not at all. Re-read the post.
On the Warrior's Wikipedia page, there's a section titled "2014–2019: The dynasty." That's beyond dispute. Arguably the greatest team ever, arguably the greatest run since Russell or at least Jordan. LeBron got one ring due to a Draymond suspension but that was a period of pure, uncomplicated dominance. A dynasty.
Now, did they really resurrect the dynasty last year? That's questionable. Injuries or not, they lost to the Raptors. Two more teams won the championship while they missed the playoffs ENTIRELY. There is a very legitimate argument that the dynasty ended in 2019 and then the Warriors came back and won another title.
I picked them to win my playoff bracket last year and this year. If they won a title this year, it would make more sense to argue that this period could be tacked onto the dynasty while we write the injury years off. I'd have pushed for that, if the team won 5/9, at least a majority of the championships. If they win next year and make it 5/10, it seems arguable and the time of death is still uncertain.
It will be interesting to see what the team looks like next year... Right now, it looks to me like the dynasty ended in 2019 and then the Warriors came back and won another title.
"There have been thousands of princes and will be thousands more; there is only one Beethoven!"
Steph is so ball dominant it forces his teammates into spot up shooters. They never could get in a rhythm. He also needs the lane clear in the paint to operate so they traded Wiseman and won't play the young guys so he can get his stats.
Who do attribute for being Instrumental for MAKING Steph?
The execs who drafted him, mark Jackson or kerr?
Adam Silver.
^^^^
There has to be more to this...
Don't make sense
Why NOT play him in the playoffs?
Kerr ever explsin his reasoning?
He just don't trust him?
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