SNOWFALL FX discussion thread

It's just not true.
They didn't know how much he had or didn't have
Only teddy who was not in the CIA knew
Once teddy gone and kgb agent captured they were done with the entire situation
The results of the show proved that because if they weren't he'd still been murdered they don't leave loose ends period

Either Franklin was a loose end because of all he knew or NOT

Money didn't change shit
teddy was not going to let him ride
he would have told cia everything
mr patriot
also remember the scene franklin wasnt afraid of dying or going to jail
so teddy couldnt control him anymore
 
I’m trying to figure out what do people think Franklin was gonna do? Was he not in real estate? He wasn’t gonna use it on drugs….he was on to a more legit shit….im not seeing how it was gonna hurt him to get his 37 million.
also to be fair once franklin said he would talk he would be dead
so is what it is
im basing my opinion over what happend in real life
 
Because saying Franklin was money hungry/greedy was the basis for their whole argument so they're sticking with that. There's a SNOWFALL discussion group on Facebook and somehow they came up with Veronique didn't get all the money she left Franklin a 100k so the fact he didn't use that 100k to start over proves he had gone insane :lol:
Fuck that 100k she did him wrong. :lol: I knew she left him something so it was 100k I must've missed that lol.
 
teddy told franklin the truth when he was tied up. he took because he "felt" he deserved it and not franklin. franklin made most of that money when teddy was kicked out the agency. he hated that the operation was flourishing with the other dude as franklin's handler. once he seen how much saint made he wasn't feeling that. tried to control him like the agency controlled him.
Ain't no way the person buying the drugs is supposed to make more money than the person selling the drugs. Period. That's the textbook definition of hustling backwards. If he was that interested in having a little for his efforts, he should have been skimming off the rip. Teddy should have made out like a bandit but instead died with basically nothing. Probably didn't even give his @ss a star at Langley.
 
teddy was not going to let him ride
he would have told cia everything
mr patriot
also remember the scene franklin wasnt afraid of dying or going to jail
so teddy couldnt control him anymore

what people are forgetting too is Franklyn was about to fuck up the Mexican dude,

Gustavo after promising him he was gonna kill Ted... by not killin ted he wouldve

fucked dude up bad...

and Franklyn was about to go back on his promise....sheeet Gustavo is the only dude who
made it out.. and got to keep his Family and a lil loot to boot.

Thanks to Franklyns mom, Gustavo needs to put a shrine for Franklyns moms next to his
mexican cac jesus!!
 
I have a question for those who watched the entire show from Season 1 thru 6...If Saint belonged to a different ethnic group, would the outcome be the same and why? For instance, say Franklin was Mexican and the show took place in the worst neighborhood in the U.S. that has a majority of mexican residents. Would the outcome be the same? How about if Franklin was Chinese and the show took place in the China Town of any major city (since many big cities have a section for Chinese only)? What about Italian and the show took place in South Philly?
 
Ain't no way the person buying the drugs is supposed to make more money than the person selling the drugs. Period. That's the textbook definition of hustling backwards. If he was that interested in having a little for his efforts, he should have been skimming off the rip. Teddy should have made out like a bandit but instead died with basically nothing. Probably didn't even give his @ss a star at Langley.
teddy was sipping the kool aid. believing he was helping his country. it took franklin scolding his ass with cooking oil to admit he felt superior to franklin and was hating.
 
I have a question for those who watched the entire show from Season 1 thru 6...If Saint belonged to a different ethnic group, would the outcome be the same and why? For instance, say Franklin was Mexican and the show took place in the worst neighborhood in the U.S. that has a majority of mexican residents. Would the outcome be the same? How about if Franklin was Chinese and the show took place in the China Town of any major city (since many big cities have a section for Chinese only)? What about Italian and the show took place in South Philly?
Basing my knowledge of the Mexican drug scene off of the show Narcos. I think if they were Mexican, Franklin and his whole crew probably would have turned on each other or killed by a rival cartel by season 3. They were ruthless.

I don't know much about Chinese-American gang culture. I know it exists, but they stay pretty under the public radar.
 
Those feelings and actions Franklin attempted to take in desperation towards Leon.....("I'm the reason you have any of this," "I can ask you for it, but if need be, I'll take it.".....etc)

That's how Teddy felt about Franklin in general, in principle......"I'm better than you. This money is bigger than you."

Again Teddy killed Franklin's father, a father that was finally clean /sober. The father he was missing in his childhood......one of people from jump that told him what the real was with the CIA/ Teddy but also had the real life experience with it.....

And then told Franklin, we're still doing business.....you're out when I say so.....

That's a cold-hearted mfkr that will never be truthful / honest and had to die..... but also he would never let Franklin have any of that money.

Y'all stuck on $37 Million like Teddy would really walk away after that deal...... (Franklin killed his father, threatened his child's life and permanently disfigured Teddy.....the beef was still on)

If Teddy had lived and transferred that money he would be back in the CIA and use their resources to fuck Franklin/ his friends/family over some more......
 
teddy told franklin the truth when he was tied up. he took because he "felt" he deserved it and not franklin. franklin made most of that money when teddy was kicked out the agency. he hated that the operation was flourishing with the other dude as franklin's handler. once he seen how much saint made he wasn't feeling that. tried to control him like the agency controlled him.

Those feelings and actions Franklin attempted to take in desperation towards Leon.....("I'm the reason you have any of this," "I can ask you for it, but if need be, I'll take it.".....etc)

That's how Teddy felt about Franklin in general, in principle......"I'm better than you. This money is bigger than you."

Again Teddy killed Franklin's father, a father that was finally clean /sober. The father he was missing in his childhood......one of people from jump that told him what the real was with the CIA/ Teddy but also had the real life experience with it.....

And then told Franklin, we're still doing business.....you're out when I say so.....

That's a cold-hearted mfkr that will never be truthful / honest and had to die..... but also he would never let Franklin have any of that money.

Y'all stuck on $37 Million like Teddy would really walk away after that deal...... (Franklin killed his father, threatened his child's life and permanently disfigured Teddy.....the beef was still on)

If Teddy had lived and transferred that money he would be back in the CIA and use their resources to fuck Franklin/ his friends/family over some more......
teddy was going to keep the money from them or use it to buy his way back into their good graces...If thats the case then the money really didn't mean anything to the CIA who had cut teddy loose..

So franklins mom could have waited ten seconds and killed teddy anyway.

To @Mrfreddygoodbud point theres a number of NQRs in the storytelling and thats a big one. Also franklin becoming an alcoholic in the manner he did felt really rushed and sudden. It almost like they didn't know this season was going to be last one becuz if they did then they should have introduced that element in the last season or even the one before it in slow small ways so that by the time we get the last few episodes he'd already been drinking more and more.

In an alternate ending they could have let him have the 37 million but because of all the trauma and killing...franklin becomes paraniod that the CIA is out to get him and anytime he suffers a set back in business he swears its the govt fucking with him even tho its clear to his wife that its not and thats what drives her away and she takes half his money in the exit and franklin just drives himself in the ground because of his paranoia and personal demons. He;s a man who can't find peace even in the middle of plenty. That's his punishment for all the death and mayhem he had a part in.
 
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teddy was going to keep the money from them or use it to buy his way back into their good graces...If thats the case then the money really didn't mean anything to the CIA who had cut teddy loose..

So franklins mom could have waited ten seconds and killed teddy anyway.

To @Mrfreddygoodbud point theres a number of NQRs in the storytelling and thats a big one. Also franklin becoming an alcoholic in the manner he did felt really rushed and sudden. It almost like they didn't know this season was going to be last one becuz if they did then they should have introduced that element in the last season or even the one before it in slow small ways so that by the time we get the last few episodes he'd already been drinking more and more.

In an alternate ending they could have let him have the 37 million but because of all the trauma and killing...franklin becomes paraniod that the CIA is out to get him and anytime he suffers a set back in business he swears its the govt fucking with him even tho its clear to his wife that its not and thats what drives her away and she takes half his money in the exit and franklin just drives himself in the ground because of his paranoia and personal demons. He;s a man who can't find peace even in the middle of plenty. That's his punishment for all the death and mayhem he had a part in.

I think they did Franklyns downfall correctly tho.. once he started not being a man of his word,

you know the Old Franklyn was gone and he was on some dr jeckl and mr hyde shit... nobody was

fuckin with his Mr Hide bruh, even his right hand man gave him a lowkey fuck you when franklyn went

to him for some money... they saw he was turning into a crackhead without being a crack head...

Im sayin tho... Do you think if John Singleton wouldve done the ending different???

While I like the finale I think John wouldve flipped it a whole other way....

hey whats crazy, nobody really knows if Franklyn wouldve even got that money, how do you know

if lying ass ted wasnt going to set him up with his other cia buddy tho??

btw I see a spin off... Im just tryin to think which surviving character would have the best

spin off story....Lee?? Gustavo???
 
I think they did Franklyns downfall correctly tho.. once he started not being a man of his word,

you know the Old Franklyn was gone and he was on some dr jeckl and mr hyde shit... nobody was

fuckin with his Mr Hide bruh, even his right hand man gave him a lowkey fuck you when franklyn went

to him for some money... they saw he was turning into a crackhead without being a crack head...

Im sayin tho... Do you think if John Singleton wouldve done the ending different???

While I like the finale I think John wouldve flipped it a whole other way....

hey whats crazy, nobody really knows if Franklyn wouldve even got that money, how do you know

if lying ass ted wasnt going to set him up with his other cia buddy tho??

btw I see a spin off... Im just tryin to think which surviving character would have the best

spin off story....Lee?? Gustavo???
Gustavo was just a dude trying to survive...not much to his story beyond that.

Leon turned a corner and became enlightened. The best he can do is used his money to try to save a few. How would that story work? Everyone finds bad characters more compelling than good ones trying to save the world.

Theres a reason why shows like the wire and power, godfather of harlem and snowfall were as popular as they were particularly with the black community. No one wants to see good people doing good shit :smh:
 
so this lil guy

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turned out to be kane crazy




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@playahaitian
 
Love the way it ended...mama told him to let it go but he wouldn't,,his chic knew where things was headed cause her moms told
her to cut her losses and bounce..and Franklin went out like some of these once big street hustler I done seen fall from grace...
But his moms tho :yes: :yes: ....
Franklin's Moma didn't want him to have that money because he told her it was more important to him than her She knew him not getting it would destroy him. She was selfish.

She lost her husband, her brother, and essentially her son--due to his new wife and unborn child. She chose to spend the rest of her life in jail and destroy her son instead of becoming irrelevant. She is possibly the worse Black mom in Black Cinema.
 
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Franklin's Moma didn't want him to have that money because he told her it was more important to him than her She knew him not getting it would destroy him. She was selfish.

She lost her husband, her brother, and essentially her son--due to his new wife and unborn child. She chose to spend the rest of her life and jail and destroy her son instead of becoming irrelevant. She is possibly the worse Black mom in Black Cinema.
Franklins mom is the new Florida Evans!

Florida was to the Evans family what Gilligan was to the castaways..maybe not the reason they got there but was DEFINITELY the reason they stayed longer than they had to..

She just shot to the number 3 in WORST BLACK TV MOTHERS OF ALL TIME!!

Up there with....

1. Delonda... Namond's mom from The Wire

2. Cookie Lyons from Empire

3. Franklin Saints mom


4. DeAngelo Barkdale's mom Brianna from The Wire!!


Actress Michael Hyatt, has played TWO of the top 5 Worst Black TV MOTHERS OF ALL TIME!!!

:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Just finished up.


FUCK Franklyn's mama, that bitch ruined her son's life :smh:

My only critique is that Teddy's plan was to take Franklyn's money and kill him from the start but he didn't kill him. Franklyn knew way too much so leaving him alive seem unlike Teddy, especially after he stole the money, did he think Franklyn was just going to disappear and get a job at Target? I think everyone saw Franklyn's baby mother stealing his money and running from a mile away.
 
In retrospect, how did you manage to save and safeguard 70 million dollars? You cannot deposit it in a bank because the government will seize it. You cannot keep everything in a closed storehouse safe because someone will eventually locate it. How would you keep your money safe from the authorities and your adversaries?

your money among friends....

 
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