Marvel Ant-Man & Wasp Official Movie Discussion Thread Update: Quantumania SPOILER REVIEWS!
I know
that is why I don get so called die hard comic fans acting CONFUSED it went in this direction
none of this is new.
the back story is Feige made him his right hand and told him YOU got all the galaxy stuff I got the rest.
Oh sorry I meant WE being in that time the audience did not love that movie
IF I am remembering correctly.
not me personally.
UPDATED: I checked the the wiki I was right it made a TON of money globally but was REALLY divided critics
Critical response[edit]
Despite the popular response, critics were split in their response to The Fifth Element. Kevin Thomas of the Los Angeles Times described the film as an "elaborate, even campy sci-fi extravaganza, which is nearly as hard to follow as last year's Mission: Impossible". He concluded that The Fifth Element was "a lot warmer, more fun, and boasts some of the most sophisticated, witty production and costume design you could ever hope to see".[82] On the American film review At the Movies, both Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel gave the film a "thumbs up".[83] In his separate review for the Chicago Sun-Times, Ebert gave the film three stars out of four, calling it "One of the great goofy movies", and concluding, "I would not have missed seeing this film, and I recommend it for its richness of imagery. But at 127 minutes, which seems a reasonable length, it plays long."[4]
The film also received reviews that criticized its overblown style. Todd McCarthy of Variety wrote, "A largely misfired European attempt to make an American-style sci-fi spectacular, The Fifth Element consists of a hodgepodge of elements that don't comfortably coalesce."[74] David Edelstein of Slate said, "It may or may not be the worst movie ever made, but it is one of the most unhinged."[5]
Chris Tucker's performance as Ruby Rhod also divided critics.[84] He was praised in the Los Angeles Times[85] and Time; the latter called him "the summer's most outrageous special effect".[86] Josh Winning of Total Film, singled out Tucker's performance as the low point of the film, ranking it as number 20 on his 2011 list, "50 Performances That Ruined Movies".[87]
The Fifth Element holds a 71% approval rating at Rotten Tomatoes, based on 68 reviews, with an average score of 6.4/10. The site's consensus reads: "Visually inventive and gleefully over the top, Luc Besson's The Fifth Element is a fantastic piece of pop sci-fi that never takes itself too seriously."[88] At Metacritic, it has a weighted score of 52 out of 100 based on reviews from 22 critics, indicating "mixed or average" reviews.[89] Audiences polled by CinemaScore gave the film an average grade of "B" on an A+ to F scale.[90]
Word? I didn't know this bit of lore.
James Gunn on ‘Guardians 3’ and Marvel’s Cosmic Plans
The director has already picked the music for his next movie and is talking regularly with Kevin Feige about new projects to expand the MCU galaxy: "Those scripts are already in the works."
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Kevin Feige Clarifies Influence of James Gunn on Cosmic Side of Phase 4 - MCUExchange
When James Gunn was fired from the Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 director’s chair, there were a lot of questions regarding the future of the cosmic side of the MCU, a pocket that he was reportedly overseeing for future cosmic installments. In an interview with Cinemablend, Kevin Feige shed...
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I am a diehard Feige acolyte Coogler BFF and Gunn bro.
And Disney stockholder I assume...?James Gunn on ‘Guardians 3’ and Marvel’s Cosmic Plans
The director has already picked the music for his next movie and is talking regularly with Kevin Feige about new projects to expand the MCU galaxy: "Those scripts are already in the works."
Kevin Feige Clarifies Influence of James Gunn on Cosmic Side of Phase 4 - MCUExchange
When James Gunn was fired from the Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 director’s chair, there were a lot of questions regarding the future of the cosmic side of the MCU, a pocket that he was reportedly overseeing for future cosmic installments. In an interview with Cinemablend, Kevin Feige shed...
I am a diehard Feige acolyte Coogler BFF and Gunn bro.
Prince almost played the role..
Ant man. One gone.
not me but my oldest. that is a long story I think I told here before
I will PM you bro.
I will not publicly admit that embarrassment again.
Couldn't have pulled it off the same way Tucker did. He would've made the character way too serious.
Understood, fam.
@playahaitian How do you think the MCU will integrate the Fox IP it has acquired, fam? Do you think they'll just mix em in with the Marvel characters with a hand wave or something else?
How William Jackson Harper went from 'The Good Place' to the Quantum Realm
'The Good Place' alum William Jackson Harper opens up about joining the MCU with 'Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania.'
How William Jackson Harper went from The Good Place to the MCU with Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
The actor stars as a telepath named Quaz in Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania.
By Devan CogganFebruary 17, 2023 at 09:00 AM EST
William Jackson Harper is trading The Good Place for the Quantum Realm.
As the perpetually anxious Chidi Anagonye, Harper faced all sorts of absurd situations on The Good Place — from flying shrimp to pots of Peep chili to the jarring incomprehensibility of the Time-Knife. But his latest role might take him to even stranger places: The actor officially joins the Marvel Cinematic Universe with Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, starring as a grumpy telepath with a light-up forehead.
"I have been a huge [Marvel] fan since, like, forever," Harper, 43, tells EW the day after the film's Los Angeles premiere. "So for someone to call me to be in something like this, I'm like, hell yeah. It's an easy yes."
William Jackson Harper as Quaz in 'Quantumania'
| CREDIT: JAY MAIDMENT/MARVEL
Harper stars as Quaz, a telepath living in the microscopic Quantum Realm. (His mind-reading abilities are automatic and involuntary — and his forehead glows whenever he hears someone's thoughts.) He and a small band of Quantum Realm residents are rebelling against Kang the Conqueror (a menacing Jonathan Majors), and eventually, they cross paths with Paul Rudd's Ant-Man and Kathryn Newton's Cassie.
Harper got the call from Marvel shortly after wrapping his HBO Max anthology series Love Life, and he says he jumped at the chance to join the MCU — even if he didn't know all that much about who he'd be playing. Still, he says, he quickly fell in love with the cynical Quaz, who proves that telepathy might not be all it's cracked up to be.
"It's a pretty great piece of writing: He's jaded because everyone's gross," Harper says with a laugh. "I love that. He's like, 'I didn't need to see that thought of yours. I really didn't.'"
With roles in The Good Place, Midsommar, and The Underground Railroad, Harper is no stranger to ambitious, high-profile projects. But once he arrived on set, he and his costars were stunned by the sheer scale and elaborate production design of the Quantum Realm — from talking buildings to extras dressed up as broccoli people.
"Just going into that world, my mouth was on the floor the whole time," Harper adds. "It's just legions of people working to make that world feel as vibrant and full as they can. Walking on, I was like, 'Wow, you don't have to fake much.'"
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania is in theaters now.
Oh, My Bad. You are absolutely right.
Love & Thunder >> That's what I meant.
I got those 2 Thor movies mixed up.
(Ragnarok was the MUCH Better movie. My fault.)
Thanks for the assist.
Sidenote: Yes, I think Wakanda Forever was a better movie than Thor: Ragnarok.
Because Thor Ragnarok turned the Thor franchise into a "Buddy Cop/Comedy" formulaic type of movie. They boxed him into a "caricature"... and the end result took all the gags too far... which is exactly what happened in Love & Thunder. Now they have to completely revamp Thor's character in order to get Thor out of that "goofball" box.I predict by the time the next Avengers movie comes out in 2025 (or 2026) Thor's temperament is going to be much more toned down and a lot more serious. He will be more of a Norse / Viking Warrior.... and less of a Clown / Sidekick.
By comparison, Wakanda Forever had a MUCH BIGGER mountain to climb after losing Chadwick. And Ryan Coogler did so WITHOUT turning anyone into a "goofball" type of character. That's why I thought it was a better movie, overall. We didn't have Black Panther.. but at least we didn't have to deal with any 'slapstick stuff' as a replacement.
Just my opinion.
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Prince dipped when he saw what the costumes looked like
I saw it for free so I'm not too mad but you can wait for Disney+ on this one....
Prince dipped when he saw what the costumes looked like
I thought it was a great flick. I didn't see what the bad reviews and criticism was about. It was fun, funny at times, Kang was awesome, great jumping off point for the next phase.
Mine let me sleep. Movie was ass.
I'ma have to agree with this.
Right. I just KNOW that that nigga beat.
They were uninspired. He’s been wearing a leotard made out of the pubic hairs of seals for nearly 20 years.Prince dipped when he saw what the costumes looked like
We'll see if this remains true when the third Guardians film releases. The first GotG shits on TFA IMO.
TWS, of course, was great but GotG 2 was a really good film.
Edit: You said "solo" films so maybe you're not including GotG since it's a team.
Well Ant-Man 3 opened strong with WW take of $357 million.
yes, technically guardians is not included.
however, with that said i whole heartedly disagree with you about guardians as a whole. while they are entertaining films guardians is not of the same caliber of film as the captain america films. not even close.
quantiumania is no where near as bad as love and thunder.
shame on anyone making that comparison.
love and thunder is not watchable. while quantumania is not a top shelf MCU movie it is at least watchable.
i paid to see every MCU movie except love and thunder. and i was still disappointed with it when i saw it on disney+. i wasn't even excited to pull it from the basement. it had a terrible trailer and the director has a bad track record for my interests. after ragnarok they let him do a strang'e commercial from boomerang. and i saw it coming.
shame on anyone making that comparison.
love and thunder is not watchable. while quantumania is not a top shelf MCU movie it is at least watchable.
i paid to see every MCU movie except love and thunder. and i was still disappointed with it when i saw it on disney+. i wasn't even excited to pull it from the basement. it had a terrible trailer and the director has a bad track record for my interests. after ragnarok they let him do a strang'e commercial from boomerang. and i saw it coming.
That's your opinion. The first CA film was mediocre. TWS was great but CW wasn't anything spectacular beyond introducing Spider-Man. I felt it ran too long TBH.
GotG has been the total package -- fun, action-packed, interesting characters you care about and who legitimately seem like they're having adventures off screen.
i don't do camp. and james gunn and gotg is way too campy.
the first captain america film is a masterpiece period piece of american history. if someone isn't into american history or period pieces they likely don't see the artistry. a good portion of the "fun" and jokes in captain america the first aveneger have to be understood. and winter solider is not just a good comic book movie. it is an excellent spy thriller.
gotg is too full of white boy dick and ball jokes and they way they did drax is criminal.
The first CA was pure camp. It was just camp dressed up in a 1940s aesthetic.
Personally, I watch a ton of period films. Probably more than most people on this board. Gangs of New York and Barry Lyndon are some of my favorite films.
I can appreciate period films even in a sci-fi or superhero context. The first Wonder Woman is a great example of a period superhero film done well. CA was just cheesy.
In the comics, Drax has had many iterations. Did you prefer the silent, green Hulk look-a-like?
we can agree to disagree about captain america. it was made in the spirit of the sullivan brothers.
i actually compare wonder woman and captain america as simliar films. wonder woman's first two acts were excellent and the third act fell flat. if wonder woman had the third act that captain marvel had it would be considered one of the best comic movies ever.
when i was collecting drax was kick ass, solid, intelligent character. not this caricature made for comic relief that we have now.
I basically agree with this analysis when comparing the two films:
If the premises of Wonder Woman and The First Avenger are too similar, then the tone of the two films should be plenty good proof of how they're different.
Both films mix a throwback serial feel with modern action and some light humor. However, Wonder Woman has a darker and more serious undertone in its treatment of the war history aspect of the story, while The First Avenger is much more of a comic book fantasy, dressed up in a historical setting.
Many people were critical of how First Avenger director Joe Johnston infused the WWII setting with a bunch of hokey sci-fi weaponry and vehicles, and never quite captured a "realistic" view of Captain America being on a WWII battlefield. Wonder Woman certainly doesn't have that problem, mixing those two worlds - if anything, some critics say the wartime aspects are too serious for the comic book fantasy and light humor. You can have whatever opinion you want of both films, but it's undeniable that they craft their respective stories in very different ways.
