Marvel Ant-Man & Wasp Official Movie Discussion Thread Update: Quantumania SPOILER REVIEWS!

[playahaitian]

I'm going to actually try to go to the theatre to see this one

I find it interesting first Black Lead villain to the entire Phase and all this hate coming.

I wanna see if all these negative reviews are justified.

 

[cli-terminator]

Kang was worth the ticket for me. His presence as a villain was definitely felt

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

I wanna see if all these negative reviews are justified.

His nonsensical review shouldnt be

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Harry Knowles
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I love Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne! Growing up in a house that had multiple copies of pretty much every Silver Age title, I had the blessing of reading all of it in order. So for me, ANTMAN and THE WASP are Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne… and I loved them. This is really the first full on Hank and Janet adventure we’ve had in the MCU… and it’s wonderfully phantasmagorical! Michelle and Michael are just fantastic in this. She’s loaded with secrets that are being laid bare about her decades down in the Quantum universe. Hank is coping and working out things with some of his friends. Truly, non-spoilery it’s the bee’s knees. I find it fascinating that people seem to have trouble with multiple characters and unspoken histories. I think life must be difficult for them to need the mysteries of acquaintances explained. You don’t think you really know anyone you only see a few times a week for a few minutes. Here we are experiencing a snapshot in these people’s lives… and we’re following Scott and Hope and Peanut… all while we’re getting to know KANG and Darren and the wondrous world of the microverse- oh wait, that’s a slightly different verse, this is the Quantum Realm. So much fiction in this skull of mine bouncing around into one another!
I feel pretty damn clear on everything that I saw. I dug it all. Felt it moved so quickly for me. But that’s probably due to AVATAR WAY OF WATER and BABYLON run times.
Jonathan Majors is a delight as KANG… just a wonderful reserved madman who needs a little help. And it kills him to need anything. I get that for tourists to the MCU, that are dispassionate and glib, you resist the urge to fully engage so there’s a need to be dismissive. I guarantee you, multiple viewings will be revelatory in this case.
Enjoy the unbridled wonderland we are presented. Let your biology lab time at the ol microscope gazing at critters on slides… and then gaze at them in a Technicolor 3D playground for the talent you’re watching.
Don’t fight the movie, just watch… so much is right there! I just loved every second!

 

[SamSneed]

Sidebar....

It is truly impressive and insane how that one site which went from a nothing aggregator then to a hated replacement for so called real film critics to a damn problematic powerhouse influential enough to effect major motion picture projects.

Man but shit they be right lol

 

[SamSneed]

I understand, it wasted so much potential. Hopefully, all of it was some bullshit plan by Kang.

I still liked it

enjoyable

those kangs tho, loved it, the pharaoh look >>>>

I noticed how kang would flip personalities, he had twitch, damn good actin

 

[grownazzblakman]

The movie was just mediocre, imo.
I'd give it about a 6 out of 10.

The best part about the film was Jonathan Majors.
HE did a great job as Kang.

Overall, the movie was better than Dr. Strange Multiverse... and Thor Ragnarok... but definitely not better than Wakanda Forever.

Just my opinion.

 

[TimRock]

I'm going to actually try to go to the theatre to see this one

I find it interesting first Black Lead villain to the entire Phase and all this hate coming.

I wanna see if all these negative reviews are justified.

Kang was great, everything else wasn't.

 

[Pworld297]

I hear Kang is great but I'm not surprised by that with Jonathan Majors playing the role. Dude is a great actor. I wonder why they would start him off in Ant man?

I was watching Captain America's Civil War the other day, that's when Marvel was at the top of their game.

 

[TimRock]

I hear Kang is great but I'm not surprised by that with Jonathan Majors playing the role. Dude is a great actor. I wonder why they would start him off in Ant man?

I was watching Captain America's Civil War the other day, that's when Marvel was at the top of their game.

He was in the Loki show first.

 

[playahaitian]

Well damn every show was sold out.

Interesting what the box office will be

 

[Complex]

Jonathan Majors was in his own movie. It's like he didn't fit the tone of the movie.

These are progressively getting worse and cornier. It's hard to to think there's stakes with jokes.

There was a big Star Wars influence

Modok.

I saw it in IMAX 3D and thought the CGI was just

Marvel needs to reboot

 

[babydaddy]

Jonathan Majors was in his own movie. It's like he didn't fit the tone of the movie.

These are progressively getting worse and cornier. It's hard to to think there's stakes with jokes.

There was a big Star Wars influence

Modok.

I saw it in IMAX 3D and thought the CGI was just

Marvel needs to reboot

yea i was like, they using the star wars studio now lmaoo

 

[TimRock]

Jonathan Majors was in his own movie. It's like he didn't fit the tone of the movie.

These are progressively getting worse and cornier. It's hard to to think there's stakes with jokes.

There was a big Star Wars influence

Modok.

I saw it in IMAX 3D and thought the CGI was just

Marvel needs to reboot

Yeah the jokes in the middle of a battle and there's a chance you could die.... they need to stop that.

 

[CurtDawg]

I'm in the theater right now
About to watch this bitch
I've stayed away from all of the youtube spoilers
And haven't gone through all the comments in this thread yet

Hopefully this shit is at least decent
Dolby Cinema.....Second row up front

 

[babydaddy]

I think the biggest thing that is hurting MCU is the streaming service with them trying to tie movies with the streaming service and vice versa. So instead of new characters getting introduced in movies, they introducing them with streaming service. Phase 1 to 3 had no disney streaming service involved and the story pretty much moved along with each movie.

THis moive was ok, but i was expecting more, its like these latest disney movies are like a few moments from making these movies great, something is holding this phase of movies back from being good.

 

[tajshan]

That end-credit scene:

 

[veritech]

I hear Kang is great but I'm not surprised by that with Jonathan Majors playing the role. Dude is a great actor. I wonder why they would start him off in Ant man?

I was watching Captain America's Civil War the other day, that's when Marvel was at the top of their game.

The Captain America trilogy is the best trilogy of the solo films in the MCU. Without question.

 

[CurtDawg]

I'm in the theater right now
About to watch this bitch
I've stayed away from all of the youtube spoilers
And haven't gone through all the comments in this thread yet

Hopefully this shit is at least decent
Dolby Cinema.....Second row up front

Meh.....yeah it was okay
I damn near fell asleep
Waiting for that last end credits scene to come

 

[God-Of-War-420]

Jonathan Majors is one hell of an actor. He has a certain effervescence to him that is more Sidney Poitier with a Denzel fire

I got to rewatch last black man in San Francisco again,, but he's the new guy to watch

I'm glad he's getting work but think this dude is the most overrated actor I've seen in ten years, I just don't get it. He's ok at best and at times reminds me more of Bokeem Woodbine than Denzel or Sydney lmao that comparison is just disrespectful. Lol

 

[CurtDawg]

The movie was just mediocre, imo.
...
Overall, the movie was better than Dr. Strange Multiverse... and Thor Ragnarok... but definitely not better than Wakanda Forever.

Just my opinion.

I think you meant
This movie is better than Thor Love & Thunder?

 

[godofwine]

I'm glad he's getting work but think this dude is the most overrated actor I've seen in ten years, I just don't get it. He's ok at best and at times reminds me more of Bokeem Woodbine than Denzel or Sydney lmao that comparison is just disrespectful. Lol

I can see what you're saying, but for me it's his eyes and intensity, calm and being able to convey a varying degree of emotions with his eyes alone. That's what differs from let's say Bokeem Woodbine.

The helpless vulnerability he showed in Ant-Man when he first came into the movie transformed when he got what he wanted. That's what he was supposed to do, but his eyes conveyed the entire scene very well. Plus, I dig his crazy.

While they were never be another Sidney Poitier or for that matter Denzel Washington, he is able to play a wide range of roles and to this point hasn't quite been pigeonholed

A question not trying to be combative, but what leads you to believe that he is overrated? I'd like to hear and honest opinion

 

[God-Of-War-420]

I can see what you're saying, but for me it's his eyes and intensity, calm and being able to convey a varying degree of emotions with his eyes alone. That's what differs from let's say Bokeem Woodbine.

The helpless vulnerability he showed in Ant-Man when he first came into the movie transformed when he got what he wanted. That's what he was supposed to do, but his eyes conveyed the entire scene very well. Plus, I dig his crazy.

While they were never be another Sidney Poitier or for that matter Denzel Washington, he is able to play a wide range of roles and to this point hasn't quite been pigeonholed

A question not trying to be combative, but what leads you to believe that he is overrated? I'd like to hear and honest opinion

I just don't see him as a very good actor, still haven't seen a single performance where he doesn't over act and make weird choices, I've seen all his roles he's received hype for and I just don't see it. Maybe he'll change my mind with ant man or creed, As of right now I truly am confused as to why people like him. Lol but still love seeing him get work and I won't hate too hard on the man

 

[TimRock]

I just don't see him as a very good actor, still haven't seen a single performance where he doesn't over act and make weird choices, I've seen all his roles he's received hype for and I just don't see it. Maybe he'll change my mind with ant man or creed, As of right now I truly am confused as to why people like him. Lol but still love seeing him get work and I won't hate too hard on the man

He overacted in Lovecraft?

 

[shamone]

Yeah the jokes in the middle of a battle and there's a chance you could die.... they need to stop that.

tbf there were jokes in mid battle in infinity war and endgame

 

[God-Of-War-420]

He overacted in Lovecraft?

That was probably his best role(that one slipped my mind)

 

[Mastermind2002]

I thought the movie was good. It's better than the last Ant-Man movie but not better than the original. In the overall scope of Marvel films I'll put it somewhere in the middle.

 

[sinsay]

tbf there were jokes in mid battle in infinity war and endgame

I mean virtually every comic run…and Marvel in particular, they are full of jokes. Some more than others of course, but these movies can’t be true to the comics if they are serious all the time.

I don’t want the over the top buffoonery that was in Thor Love and Thunder, but I mean jokes, sometimes corny, are what I’ve been used to since I fell in love with reading comic books as a kid.

 

[godofwine]

I just don't see him as a very good actor, still haven't seen a single performance where he doesn't over act and make weird choices, I've seen all his roles he's received hype for and I just don't see it. Maybe he'll change my mind with ant man or creed, As of right now I truly am confused as to why people like him. Lol but still love seeing him get work and I won't hate too hard on the man

Male Yale actors tend to over act a bit or be more pronounced in their until they settle in. Sometimes it's notable and sometimes it's less so

Notable Black Male Yale School of Drama:

Yaya Abdul Mateen
David Alan Grier
Winston Duke
Courtney B Vance
D.B. Woodside

Hell, even Angela Bassett tends to overact on occasion still

Winston Duke in Us and Spencer Confidential are some of the examples that comes to mind.

It's not bad acting but rather overthinking and a bit robotic. there is a difference

Most work through it the more comfortable they get with themselves and the more comfortable they are in the role.

 

[godofwine]

That's why I rank most Marvel movies between a 6 and a 7.5. It's a combination of doing too much and unfunny people trying to make comedic situations out of serious ones

Not everybody is funny. Some people aren't even fucking close. When Ant-Man or Iron-Man tells a joke in the middle of a battle, it tracks. The two of them have been accused of never taking anything seriously.

However, when some people do it it's just like who the fuck are you. It doesn't track for their character and Marvel still hasn't understood that they need to keep the jokes to the funny people even though every actor wants to tell a joke or be part of the fun.

I thought the movie was good. It's better than the last Ant-Man movie but not better than the original. In the overall scope of Marvel films I'll put it somewhere in the middle.

 

[Complex]

I'm glad he's getting work but think this dude is the most overrated actor I've seen in ten years, I just don't get it. He's ok at best and at times reminds me more of Bokeem Woodbine than Denzel or Sydney lmao that comparison is just disrespectful. Lol

I can sort of see that

at times I can say he didn't fit the tone of the movie, because I'm not sure if it's his acting or overacting....or the tone of the movie around him. He was so damn serious in a Ant Man movie.

It was times people in the audience were laughing and I don't know if it was his acting or the writing....some of the writing was wild. Like Michele Pheiffer was getting slutted out in the quantum realm.

but in Devotion he did a good job

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

I can sort of see that

at times I can say he didn't fit the tone of the movie, because I'm not sure if it's his acting or overacting....or the tone of the movie around him. He was so damn serious in a Ant Man movie.

It was times people in the audience were laughing and I don't know if it was his acting or the writing....some of the writing was wild. Like Michele Pheiffer was getting slutted out in the quantum realm.

but in Devotion he did a good job

He’s a serious man. He was banished to a land where he couldn’t be the man he knows he is. And it’s not like they erased his memory and he had urges of his potential. He knew who he was. And he knew the path it took to be that person. This man has killed infinite versions of himself and he has to play around with some guy who wants to spend time with his daughter.

 

[Complex]

That's why I rank most Marvel movies between a 6 and a 7.5. It's a combination of doing too much and unfunny people trying to make comedic situations out of serious ones

Not everybody is funny. Some people aren't even fucking close. When Ant-Man or Iron-Man tells a joke in the middle of a battle, it tracks. The two of them have been accused of never taking anything seriously.

However, when some people do it it's just like who the fuck are you. It doesn't track for their character and Marvel still hasn't understood that they need to keep the jokes to the funny people even though every actor wants to tell a joke or be part of the fun.

They didn't always do comedy so much. It used to be quips by Tony or someone else. Now it's gotten to be too much, and especially since a lot of it doesn't land.

Look at the Captain American and Avengers movies, they didn't depend on comedy. It was like Ant Man, Guardians and it changed what people thought with the Thor franchise. Once it helped the Thor franchise, it's like the input the same comedic tones in all the movies. Now it's like the characters don't have distinct personalities, because all of them are bad comedians.

 

[playahaitian]

*ahem*

 

[playahaitian]

Ant-Man 3’s Critics Score Is Low, But Fans Seem A Lot Happier

There are a lot of opinions out there on Quantumania.

www.cinemablend.com

 

[playahaitian]

7 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania Easter Eggs
By Richard Newby
Photo: Marvel
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania takes a lot of strides to set up Phase 5 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and pull audiences further into its Multiverse Saga. The third installment of the Scott Lang portion of the franchise leaves San Francisco for the Quantum Realm, known as the microverse in the comics, opening the Avenger and his subatomic particle-obsessed colleagues up to diversions into other MCU narratives. The Easter eggs aren’t rampant in the Quantum Realm (though it necessitated not one, but two credits scenes), but the references are there if you are appropriately squinting:
The Blip Aftermath
Even after his demise, the actions of that troublesome Thanos (Josh Brolin) are still wreaking consequences on the world. Cassie Lang (Kathryn Newton) is arrested in the opening act of the film as part of a protest movement to stop the police from forcibly relocating those left houseless by the Blip. The crisis is an ongoing issue that we saw Aunt May (Marisa Tomei) address in Spider-Man: Far From Home and Spider-Man: No Way Home.
Jimmy Woo
FBI Agent Jimmy Woo (Randall Park), who was assigned to Scott Lang’s (Paul Rudd) parole case during Ant-Man and the Wasp, and played a key role in WandaVision, makes a quick cameo in Quantumania, having struck up a friendship with Scott, and taken up his hobby of close-up magic.

Veb
The creature made of ooze and obsessed with holes isn’t from the comics. But he is portrayed by David Dastmalchian, the popular character actor who previously portrayed Kurt, a member of Scott’s group of ex-con burglars, in the first and second Ant-Man movies.
Krylar
Bill Murray shows up as a former resistance fighter, Krylar, who has a long, and romantic, history with Janet van Dyne (Michelle Pfeiffer). A very minor comic book character, who was introduced in and died in The Incredible Hulk #156, Krylar was the leader of a group of assassins and mercenaries.
Chronopolis
Kang (Jonathan Majors) has built a city in the Quantum Realm, referred to as Chronopolis, which also serves as his residence in the comics. However, the comic book city exists outside of space and time in Limbo, and is guarded by the monster, Alioth, who we saw in Loki.
Stature
Cassie Lang has her own costume and access to Pym Particles. While shrinking combat takes some getting used to, she proves quite capable giant-sized. In her original comic appearances, Cassie preferred to grow rather than shrink and took on the name Stature as a member of the Young Avengers. This may be where her MCU future lies.
Incursions
The threat of incursions pops up in Quantumania, after getting their MCU introduction in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. An incursion happens when the boundaries between two realities collide, resulting in the destruction of both universes. As Kang describes just before the final act, now that the sacred timeline has been leveled, the universes of the multiverse are colliding into one another.