Fuck that, I wouldn't do a job to "Pockets" either. I'd just sit out, like he's doing, until either my contract runs out or I get released.
THE WRESTLING THREAD: BROCK LESNAR HAS ENTERED THE CHAT!!!
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So would Orange expose the weakness of this strong, vicious Redeemer character before or after the play kicks? Or would Orange make it special and different by having his hands in his pockets while attacking Miro's neck? I can't blame Miro considering he'd be losing to a guy in Orange Cassidy that most people don't take seriously because he doesn't even take himself seriously
That one new character in Street Fighter 6 looks like they based it off of her...
At the end of the day the glue that holds it all together is CAN YOU WRESTLE? Yes Cassidy can wrestle and has proven to put on some excellent matches. The one he had with Will Ospreay at "Forbidden Door" and the ones with Pac immediately come to mind. Plus on top of that he's a top merch seller. Miro walking around with an ego like he's Hogan. Dude you're a mid-carder. What AEW World title have you won? Shut the fuck up and do your job. If Jericho has no problem putting over Cassidy who the fuck are you?
At the end of the day, we all know TK has been known to make poor booking decisions. I’m going to side with Miro because he was brought up through the NXT system and had success in WWE before they fumbled the ball on Rusev Day.
Seeing how TK shitty booking has made other wrestlers go from hot to meh, I‘ll give Miro the benefit of doubt on how this is being handled.
The man had a big fucking deal WrestleMania match against John Cena years ago….ain’t no way he should job to a comedy wrestler.
Yes, Jericho did the job to Cassidy and other scrubs, but Jericho is in the tail end of his career. Miro still hasn’t peaked.
Seeing how TK shitty booking has made other wrestlers go from hot to meh, I‘ll give Miro the benefit of doubt on how this is being handled.
The man had a big fucking deal WrestleMania match against John Cena years ago….ain’t no way he should job to a comedy wrestler.
Yes, Jericho did the job to Cassidy and other scrubs, but Jericho is in the tail end of his career. Miro still hasn’t peaked.
It should be though. Like Cena would've never jobbed to Santino Morrella or no shit like that. Like we know the deal. There's levels to it. A older vet in the game will job to the new top guy coming through. Jobbing to Cassidy would've been a joke if I were him.
Yeah they got me fucked up.
I'd never lol.This week of AEW Dynamite was ehh!!...I like the segment with Rick Starks and Jericho..That was good and The Mox vs Martin from the member of Top Flight was good!!...They could have left that segment with Swerve, Ketih Lee, and Rick Ross out..That was soo lame but it was kinda funny to hear Ross curse on TV..lol....TK needs to get back on track on booking good matches and segments..He was doing good a while back but he starting to slack and booked alot of BS segments and matches lately!!..Come on TK!!..Get it together!!..
It's still all about AEW!!
My AEW Brothers and my other Wrestling Brothers,...Have a Good Christmas!!...
It's still all about AEW!!
My AEW Brothers and my other Wrestling Brothers,...Have a Good Christmas!!...
I know I always fast forward the women's matches..They had a the main event match on Dynamite this week but I heard it was a good match...I might go back and check it out!!...
I do the same. I'm not going back to watch it though.
Wow, this might be the first time you DIDN'T like an episode of Dynamite.This week of AEW Dynamite was ehh!!...I like the segment with Rick Starks and Jericho..That was good and The Mox vs Martin from the member of Top Flight was good!!...They could have left that segment with Swerve, Ketih Lee, and Rick Ross out..That was soo lame but it was kinda funny to hear Ross curse on TV..lol....TK needs to get back on track on booking good matches and segments..He was doing good a while back but he starting to slack and booked alot of BS segments and matches lately!!..Come on TK!!..Get it together!!..
It's still all about AEW!!
My AEW Brothers and my other Wrestling Brothers,...Have a Good Christmas!!...
LMAO at “It's still all about AEW!!”Wow, this might be the first time you DIDN'T like an episode of Dynamite.
You're using a false equivalency to prove your point. Orange Cassidy and Miro are mid-carders. They're in the same wrestling tier. Miro jobbing to Cassidy wouldn't be the same as Cena jobbing to Santino Marella. Miro needs to shut the fuck up and be a professional.
Guessing after Storm gets her rematch. There's not much in the division along the lines of feuds for Hayter.
Wow, this might be the first time you DIDN'T like an episode of Dynamite.
Hey, I can be judgemental at times brother!!...
....But this week episode of Dynamite!!was ehh..This week show of Dynamite was ehh!!....But, It's still all about AEW!!...
TK does need to get it together with the bookings for the shows!!..He's slacking right now!!..
My personal AEW favorite Dasha!
So a heel, monster type who's coming back from being away should come back and lose to a guy because that guy sells t-shirts!! Oh and because he's a good wrestler in spite of the fact that the guy is and always has been a comedy figure. And he had a good match, which he lost, with a guy who did 3 matches before being going back to Japan. Miro's time in AEW started off trash doing what exactly? Playing around with comedy figures like The Best Friends and Kip Sabian but now that he finally got past that he should allow history to repeat itself and be dragged right back into that shit. Miro won the TNT title so yes he's been a mid carder largely because of the bad booking that wants him to job to Orange Cassidy. Will it help Orange Cassidy? No because he'll be the same character he was 3 years ago, doing the same joke or 2 that he was doing 3 years ago. Will it hurt Miro? Yes because he'd be losing to the bland, joke guy who hasn't evolved in 3 years. Hell it's not like the last time that we saw him he was losing to an undersized babyface in Sammy Guevara. Let's do it again. Not like Miro knows so that couldn't possibly hurt him because he'll back on the show right after losing like, say, Chris Jericho so that he could regain any possible lost momentum. But then again, Jericho who gets to be on the show every week and gets to do whatever he wants lost to Cassidy in a match revolving around a brunch drink so Miro should do it too.
If Ricochet gets like that from a kiss
Nobody has benefited from feuding with Orange Cassidy. Miro didn't the 1rst time. Pac didn't benefit when he lost The All Atlantic title to him. Santana and Ortiz didn't benefit from their feud with The Best Friends complete with Orange Cassidy emerging from car trunks during matches beyond a goofy 5 star match rating from Meltzer. Adam Cole certainly didn't benefited from his time having matches with Orange Cassidy. He went from huge deal to why didn't he stay with the WWE in the span of a month doing it.
Yes because merch sells are a strong indicator that a guy is over with the fan base and that's what you get behind as a booker. It's not rocket science. If you have two mid carders facing each other and one is insanely over and the other not so much you book the person who's over. That's business. This is the same reason why The Acclaimed are over right now. Are they the best tag team in AEW? Of course not but they're the most over tag team in AEW.
Doesn't matter if he's a comedy figure he can wrestle. Stop associating comedy with a lack of skill.
Correction he had a good match with Will Ospreay the best wrestler in the world right now and a main event star in New Japan.
Miro is a mid carder because that's what he deserves to be right now. In time he could rise to be a main eventer but he's got to be patient and stop bitching.
If people are still enjoying the gimmick then it won't matter if he's still doing it 3 years from now. You do the gimmick until it's not accepted anymore by the fan base THEN you change.
The joke guy barely wrestled when he first started in AEW. NOW the joke guy is having four star matches and currently holds a title. Yeah, you're right he hasn't evolved at all.
Miro isn't Chris Jericho. Jericho is a day one guy with the company and former world champion. Of course he'll have more leverage than Miro who hasn't really done squat.
Him and Samantha probably made a beeline for the hotel afterwards
Those feuds were designed to elevate Cassidy and legitimize him as a wrestler which they did. Those wrestlers didn't benefit from those feuds because they weren't suppose to benefit from them.
Oh she about to follow Mandy to the bag??
So Cassidy was to benefit again even though he's been legitimized already while Miro is delegitimized by losing to a comedy wrestler, again. And being legitimized via a match with a mimosa gimmick is sad in of itself.
So why would a returning Miro want to come back to lose to his detriment for the 2nd,3rd, 4th time? It's safe to say between the various goofy shit that he's been involved in between AEW and WWE that Miro has been a company guy so it's about time that he said no to something that wasn't going to help him at all.
Merch sales don't equal to shit in ring. So Miro loses to a guy that sells t-shirts not a guy who's a main eventer. Miro losing to Omega would mean 10 times more than losing to Orange Cassidy but Cassidy sells more t-shirts.
Comedy doesn't equal lack of skill he equals lack of viability. Doesn't matter if he can wrestle if he's not to be taken seriously which he doesn't even take himself.
Correction he had a good match with Will Ospreay the best wrestler in the world right now and a main event star in New Japan.[/QUOUTE]
Main event star in NEW JAPAN, not America where most people don't know who he is. Main event star in Japan where he wrestles on a regular and consistent basis, not here where he was just seen maybe 5 times so most people don't know he is and how he ranks amongst all the wrestlers in the world.
Miro is a mid carder because that's what he deserves to be right now. In time he could rise to be a main eventer but he's got to be patient and stop bitching.
It's not being accepted by the TV viewers which is why ratings go down when he's on the show.
The fact that he holds a title says more about the importance of the title and the company than it speaks to how good he is. A title that we just created amongst the 10 or so other titles that he had a tournament for and was dropped by the 1rst guy to have it within a month in something like his defense. And the guy who won cares so much about it that he carries it in a bookbag and throws it around, as a face. And I forgot that Meltzer's ratings determine how valid and ready a guy is for a title.The joke guy barely wrestled when he first started in AEW. NOW the joke guy is having four star matches and currently holds a title. Yeah, you're right he hasn't evolved at all.
And he barely wrestles still especially on Dynamite
Jericho came in and was given the title. Miro came in and was given Kip Sabian. And Jericho has more leverage than any inividual in the company hence the wide range of bullshit they let him do on down to sing, song routines and Hangover ripoff skits.
Miro a MID-CARDER is going to lose to another MID-CARDER. The mid -carder who sells more merch between mid-carders therefore making more money for the company gets the push. I don't get why this is hard for you to understand. This is business. Is merch sells the only indicator behind who gets pushed? No, but it plays a large role.
That would be true if Miro was a main eventer but HE'S NOT!
Yes, Cassidy makes more MONEY for the company than Miro does.
It seems you lack a basic understanding of Cassidy's character. He's not serious until IT'S TIME FOR HIM TO BE SERIOUS. He uses his slacker demeanor to his advantage because opponents underestimate him. It's a unique gimmick that's been consistently over with the fan base since he first started in AEW. NOW Cassidy is being rewarded for that consistency.
Winning one match or feud doesn't legitimize you it requires consistency. The Jericho feud was just the start of Cassidy's ascension. AGAIN, Miro is a mid-carder so him losing to another mid-carder in Cassidy wouldn't hurt him at all.
You come back and do the job to Cassidy then take advantage of that TV time to craft a storyline/angle around the loss. This keeps you on TV when everyone else on the bloated roster is fighting for TV time. The last thing I would be concerned about is losing to Cassidy. I want to develop a solid feud out of it and then get that win back when the time is right. This shows TK that you're a team player and you don't have your head so far up your ass about doing jobs. This isn't a sprint it's a marathon. If the goal is to be a world champion someday I would be talking to TK, Jericho ,Moxley and Omega about what it would take to get me there. If it meant jobbing to Cassidy, Hook or whomever NOW to be a World Champion LATER then so be it.