Warnock vs. Walker debate tonight, will Warnock "Rope that Dope?" The fight for Americana in Savannah.....GA breaks first day early voting record

[godofwine]

The Democrats are weak. This we go high bullshit needs to end. It just needs to fucking end. I'm tired of the pussy punk ass approach.

Our opponents are cheating so we're just going to let them cheat because if we go low with them then...

Then you win dumbass.

 

[darth frosty]

 

[woodchuck]

 

[T_Holmes]

I feel like the whole debacle over Walker's (lack of) police experience is a bit of a non-issue. At best, he has some honorary title conferred by an agency whose competence hasn't even been evaluated.

And even then, if that is the case, I don't see any evidence of him having done anything remotely substantive with regard to law enforcement. At best, he was a consultant, and at worst, he was a spokesperson.

And even then, even if all of that bore true to the closest of Herschel's recollection, he would still be a trash candidate that at best is ignorant and at worst has actual brain damage.

I wouldn't fight him over it, because being right about it wins you no points, and being wrong in any fractional capacity is enough to fuel "fake news" proponents for years. There's plenty of other stuff to tag him on.

 

[praetor]

Warnock approached that debate like he was up 20 points. A lot of his answers could have been better.

On inflation, he talked about the inflation reduction act. He could have talked about how trillions were spent by Trump before Joe came into office. How Joe had to spend additional money to clean up the covid mess that trump left him.

On limits on abortions, he could have given the same answer that Pete Buttigieg gave.

With Walker trying to link him to Biden, Warnock could have reminded him that Georgia voted for Biden.

Instead of dodging the question of would he support Biden in 2024, he could have listed Biden's accomplishments that are popular in Georgia and said yes.

As far as the Atlanta Braves changing their name, he could have pointed out that the issue with their name had nothing to do with all the other issues that Walker said we should focus on. He could have said that the Braves could look at the Cleveland Indians and Washington Redskins, speak with members of the community, and make a decision that works for everyone.

Basically, he came off as someone who was dodging questions without dodging them well.

 

[christop]

I feel like the whole debacle over Walker's (lack of) police experience is a bit of a non-issue. At best, he has some honorary title conferred by an agency whose competence hasn't even been evaluated.

And even then, if that is the case, I don't see any evidence of him having done anything remotely substantive with regard to law enforcement. At best, he was a consultant, and at worst, he was a spokesperson.

And even then, even if all of that bore true to the closest of Herschel's recollection, he would still be a trash candidate that at best is ignorant and at worst has actual brain damage.

I wouldn't fight him over it, because being right about it wins you no points, and being wrong in any fractional capacity is enough to fuel "fake news" proponents for years. There's plenty of other stuff to tag him on.

It definitely matters Walker is trying to paint Warnock as anti-police to win votes.

Here's the context for Walker's 2019 comments. In a speech to members of the military, in which Walker discussed his struggle with mental illness, he told a story about a time he had been so angry at someone that he grabbed a gun and drove off with the intention of killing the man, calming down only when seeing a bumper sticker about love for Jesus. Walker said he had worked for law enforcement, then added, "Y'all didn't know that either, did you? I spent time at Quantico, up at the FBI training school. Y'all didn't know I was an agent? I probably shouldn't tell you all that. Y'all don't care. Anyway -- hey I've been in law enforcement before. So I grab my gun..."

Walker smiled at various points in these remarks, but at no point did he say he was joking; it certainly wasn't obvious that he was being serious about spending time at the FBI training school but then joking immediately afterward when he said he had been an agent. And in a speech to servicemembers two years prior, which was previously noted by PolitiFact, Walker told the same story about having wanted to kill a man and that time said, "I grabbed my gun. Because I worked with law enforcement. People don't realize: I got my FBI clearance. I went to Quantico."

When the Atlanta Journal-Constitution wrote in June about Walker's comment about having been an agent, the Walker campaign pointed the newspaper to a 1989 article in which Walker said he spent a week at the FBI training academy in Quantico at the tail end of his football career -- a claim the FBI has not commented on.

Walker has never had a job in law enforcement. He has publicized a card showing that he was at some point after 2004 named an "honorary agent" and "special deputy sheriff" in Cobb County, Georgia, titles that do not confer arrest authority.

 

[T_Holmes]

It definitely matters Walker is trying to paint Warnock as anti-police to win votes.

That's fair enough.

Warnock approached that debate like he was up 20 points. A lot of his answers could have been better.

On inflation, he talked about the inflation reduction act. He could have talked about how trillions were spent by Trump before Joe came into office. How Joe had to spend additional money to clean up the covid mess that trump left him.

On limits on abortions, he could have given the same answer that Pete Buttigieg gave.

With Walker trying to link him to Biden, Warnock could have reminded him that Georgia voted for Biden.

Instead of dodging the question of would he support Biden in 2024, he could have listed Biden's accomplishments that are popular in Georgia and said yes.

As far as the Atlanta Braves changing their name, he could have pointed out that the issue with their name had nothing to do with all the other issues that Walker said we should focus on. He could have said that the Braves could look at the Cleveland Indians and Washington Redskins, speak with members of the community, and make a decision that works for everyone.

Basically, he came off as someone who was dodging questions without dodging them well.

I agree with this assessment. I get why he may have felt he needed to, but he was working way too hard to avoid saying something that would become an explosive soundbite.

I didn't hate his Biden answer, but Walker definitely turned his non-answer into an attack point, and I think a pivot like you suggested would have been the appropriate counter to that.

 

[lightbright]

Georgia Senate Race Unchanged: Warnock Leads Walker 52% - 45%, Quinnipiac University Georgia Poll Finds; Gov Race Between Kemp And Abrams Remains Too Close To Call

 

[easy_b]

Georgia Senate Race Unchanged: Warnock Leads Walker 52% - 45%, Quinnipiac University Georgia Poll Finds; Gov Race Between Kemp And Abrams Remains Too Close To Call

Warnock is beginning to pull away and Kemp and Abrams race is getting tight which is good because last month didn’t look too hot for Abrams now is getting tight that’s good. My fingers my toes, my ears everything is crossed. Remember, early voting starts on my birthday in Georgia. My people in Georgia one more thing there is enough of us to make this change. Will you seen what we did in 2020 so it’s possible to have a female black governor in Georgia get out there and vote.

 

[lightbright]

Veteran Star Trek actor George Takei also weighed in, writing: "In fairness to Herschel Walker, I sometimes pull out my Star Fleet badge to get past security at Star Trek conferences."
Walker Mocked For 'Prop' Police Badge in Debate: 'Objectively Hilarious' (newsweek.com)

 

[lightbright]

Warnock is beginning to pull away and Kemp and Abrams race is getting tight which is good because last month didn’t look too hot for Abrams now is getting tight that’s good. My fingers my toes, my ears everything is crossed. Remember, early voting starts on my birthday in Georgia. My people in Georgia one more thing there is enough of us to make this change. Will you seen what we did in 2020 so it’s possible to have a female black governor in Georgia get out there and vote.

Yooooo.... they're lighting him up again on Twitter about that badge....... I'm waiting for someone to say that their kids got an "Honorary badge" too, except they got it out of a box of cereal

 

[ballscout1]

He didn’t say he would endorse Biden for 2024.

He didn't say he wouldn't either.

He said he has given zero thought to who he would support in 2024.

Pay attentin to 2022 mofokr.

How you gonna support somebody and don't know who all running ?

Again, stop typing like you skipped civics for Home Ec.

 

[lightbright]

He didn't say he wouldn't either.

He said he has given zero thought to who he would support in 2024.

Pay attentin to 2022 mofokr.

How you gonna support somebody and don't know who all running ?

Again, stop typing like you skipped civics for Home Ec.

...Howda fuck are you expecting fatso to pay attention to anything but the sausage grease dripping from his sausage fingers? ....


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[chitownsfinest]

Alot of ignorant comments on this thread "on both sides". So glad I no longer debate politics with strangers on the web.

And just because, @Entrepronegro is a fat, female, faggot CUNT.

 

[TREES]

 

[lightbright]

"Deputy Dumb Fuck" .....ready to protect and to serve

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

I don't think some you realize how that fake badge is going to be a rallying cry for some of those voters.

Don't be surprised if Qnon comes around and convinces folks he really does have law enforcement credentials and the fake media is unfairly attacking him.

 

[BDR]

Coon patrol Walker…

Mans should be cited for impersonating a cop

 

[respiration]

Veteran Star Trek actor George Takei also weighed in, writing: "In fairness to Herschel Walker, I sometimes pull out my Star Fleet badge to get past security at Star Trek conferences."
Walker Mocked For 'Prop' Police Badge in Debate: 'Objectively Hilarious' (newsweek.com)

"Special" is just about right.

 

[lightbright]

It's being reported that the Walker campaign's going to go heavy on the police angle.... and is going to give away lil badges at all events now.... you just can't make this shit up

 

[D'Evils]

 

[Camille]

It's being reported that the Walker campaign's going to go heavy on the police angle.... and is going to give away lil badges at all events now.... you just can't make this shit up

I'd do an ad with video showing him handing them out. Ask viewers if they got one, and then tell them he had the same amount of authority conferred upon him as they did when they got theirs. SMH.

 

[code_pirahna]

No one is going to get above 50% so there will be another runoff in which Gov Kemp won t be on the ballot which may lower some of Walker's votes

 

[code_pirahna]

Bill Maher may have a point. Sad but true.

 

[Camille]

No one is going to get above 50% so there will be another runoff in which Gov Kemp won t be on the ballot which may lower some of Walker's votes

Grass roots has really been doing their thing to get voters registered with the voter ID they need and staying on top of challenges. I'm really hoping turnout is really high in areas that favor dems. We know they aren't polling poor folk.

 

[code_pirahna]

Grass roots has really been doing their thing to get voters registered with the voter ID they need and staying on top of challenges. I'm really hoping turnout is really high in areas that favor dems. We know they aren't polling poor folk.

Yeah but Stacy Abrams is going to get crushed and hopefully that doesn t carryover to Warnock.

In a runoff there is a better chance

Even though runoffs are a relic of the Jim Crow era.

 

[Dr. Truth]

 

[Camille]

Yeah but Stacy Abrams is going to get crushed and hopefully that doesn t carryover to Warnock.

In a runoff there is a better chance

Even though runoffs are a relic of the Jim Crow era.

We'll see. She lost by 60k votes last time,and that was with him closing polling places in black areas, holding over 50k registrations and purging another 600k. It was never clear to me how many of those were legitimate or how many went on to overcome that and vote anyway. With roe vs Wade etc., hopefully the turnout is good and not too many don't vote folk influence others to give up their voice.

 

[c_commander]

The format of the debate definitely helped Walker. In some cases only having 15 seconds to respond limits his opportunity to say some dumb shit. Warnock was lacking in some of his answers and not aggressive enough in combatting some of the things that Walker said in addition to not going after the myriad of Walker's issues. Also some of the questions were plain dumb and on some Republican culture war bullshit. Why should anyone give a fuck about the Atlanta Braves in a senatorial debate?

 

[blackman80]

A fucking joke!!...

 

[code_pirahna]

The format of the debate definitely helped Walker. In some cases only having 15 seconds to respond limits his opportunity to say some dumb shit. Warnock was lacking in some of his answers and not aggressive enough in combatting some of the things that Walker said in addition to not going after the myriad of Walker's issues. Also some of the questions were plain dumb and on some Republican culture war bullshit. Why should anyone give a fuck about the Atlanta Braves in a senatorial debate?

Yeah its sad that the media tries to make these debates for entertainment purposes and ratings as if that is how we should elect folks who are going to create laws. Society needs to grow up.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

 

[Soul On Ice]

Finally got around to listen to the "debate".
My take away, both of these dudes are terrible and I pray for my Georgia family tri annually.

 

[Flawless]

Finally got around to listen to the "debate".
My take away, both of these dudes are terrible and I pray for my Georgia family tri annually.

What did you not like about Warnock?

 

[Soul On Ice]

What did you not like about Warnock?

He dodged most the questions.