They were the biggest black label in the world, Dominating radio clubs tv and magazines,
And had a flamboyant head of label,
how the fuck you not gonna know him!
This convo is also making me look dumb by association
MA$E is really airing Diddy out....lol
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And had a flamboyant head of label,
how the fuck you not gonna know him!
This convo is also making me look dumb by association
This shit been going on since 05 lmao.
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Niggas cant see past that advance. It blinds them to whats in fine print.
All they ready to do is go shop and hit the car lot.
The same way he did A&R for Jodeci and Mary J Blige years before Bad Boy and nobody knew who the fuck he was.
Forever My Lady and What's the 411? were the two biggest albums in R&B at the time, and even though they were his projects.....NOBODY KNEW WHO THE FUCK SEAN "PUFFY" COMBS WAS IN THE PUBLIC EYE.
Only the industry knew him.
He essentially did the EXACT same thing for BIG for his own label. Only THIS time, he wasn't going to take a back seat to the talent. His name and brand were going to share the spotlight.
My cuz was doing mad records for Uptown at that time. And because of his connect, my family did most of the catering for their showcases, events and listening parties. I was constantly around Andre, Puff, Jimmy, Dice, James Earl Jones Jr.(RIP) and Tim Dog (The A&R that put Lost Boyz on, not the rapper)
You quoted me saying that the public didn't know Puffy until Big and Mase. That alone is a fact and you can't moonwalk around it.
If you feel dumb, it's only because you're operating on feelings instead of facts.
ma$e was already on with coc
man... ain't nobody checking for mase.. .his time is over. If he had anything in it, he'd drop the joints.. he still talking about old shit. The entire badboy family stay talking about Big or Puff. With them, they have nothing left. Notice how none of the did anything worthwhile outside of badboy? So if they truly had talent and was some other level, they would have moved on and beyond Puff. Mase is still crying about yesteday shit.
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Yeah.
But always good to hear.
Mase came out to defend his business and his way of doing business.
Good interview.
Towards the end, I like when he said,
to be great, you have to be around greatness.
But always good to hear.
Mase came out to defend his business and his way of doing business.
Good interview.
Towards the end, I like when he said,
to be great, you have to be around greatness.
Oh I agree I'm just tired of Mase talking about this Diddy ain't letting him out unless he either gives him more albums which isn't adventurous to either of them lol or he buys himself out the contract and even then Diddy wants that publishing lol. When 50 was trying to buy him out Mase should have tried to put up some of his own money and bet on himself that was his best chance.
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To your point, I would say most New Yorkers knew who Puff was after the City College Incident. I knew him from The Sound Factory Days when he was dancing up in the clubs. Here he was playing Farnsworth Bentley to Doug E. Fresh.
I can’t stand all these Rappers, If the man took you to the top of the mountain, it’s up to you to make your way from there. The only time this fudgepacker has been relevant is with Puff. Puff the only man that could drop a hit song with a Special Ed sounding motherfucker. He came back with the Welcome Back joint and that was a hit. Puff is his Daddy, he just needs to accept that. Mase couldn’t do shit on G. Unit or by himself, we all saw this nigga kissing Diddy ass on the Badboy Showtime special GTFOH. RIP to Craig Mac for walking away from Bad Boy Records with his head up.
Are you just being silly with that question?
Or lemme ask it this way what kind of "knew about" are you talking about? Cos I'm speaking of superstardom, worldwide fame, selling mass loads of records.
You are legit retarded
Exactly. Unless you were in the scene in New York, you didn't know who Puffy was.
That was my only point.
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His mom is gangsta.....lol
So you work for a company. Worldwide presence, they're on the level of Google, Amazon and Microsoft. You do your job and you do it well, bosses also see that you have talents in other areas so they loan you out to other departments, put you on major projects. But you annual increases never reflect the work you do. Your bonuses never reflect the work you put in. You apply for other better paying roles in the company and you constantly get passed over so much so you think you're Jewish!. When you leave that company and you will! At the next place you interview are you saying; 'Well I CHOSE to work there and it just wasn't a fit.' or 'Just looking for the growth opportunities that I wasn't getting there.' Which translated, 'I was kept under some ones thumb and needed to get out!'
So you basically telling me that Puffy used to be a baggage handler. A Get Fresh Crew bell boy. They must a have hazed the fuck out his lazy eye ass.
No wonder he went so hard on Bentley and Da Band. The abused became the abuser.
Clive must have saw him bending over picking up Dougies bags and figured out a way to get Puffy and get into the rap at the same time.
Wait what? How old are you?
So what? Diddy made decisions best for his own interest they didn't, Mase wanted a fairy god mother to look out for him and make decisions.
This happens all the time in the NFL. Remember Deion Sanders saying, "PAY THE MAN" for Josh Cribbs and Devin Hester? Same thing. They were signed to bottom of the barrel deals that were teak friendly or rookie deals.
It's not fair, but a lot of Puffy types go either Suge Knight or Red from Five Heartbeats and refuse to renegotiate.
There's also, who has left Bad Boy Records and had anywhere near the success that they had on Bad Boy Records? I can only think of The Lox.
112 left and disappeared. Craig Mack the same.
I hear Puffy did EVERYBODY dirty. Jermaine Dupri spoke on it when he and puffy we're talking about having a Verzuz.
JD said, I can get everyone I worked with to come down in the stage with me. Who is gonna show up for Puffy?
I'm not saying it's right, but it sucks that black record labels often did the black artists as bad or worse than the white labels
I don’t know about that. He definitely had shine with both Mary J and Jodeci.
Damn right
I don't have proof but I remember Camron saying it was 10million when he talking about him and Mase's issue.....
Bruh you're making assumptions that nobody outside of NY knew who Diddy was. He definitely was known before Big and Mase. Did he become more famous while putting out a few acts on his new label. Of course....but he didn't just all of a sudden become known because of Big and Mase.
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Diddy’s Mom Interrupts His Instagram Live to Voice Her Distaste for Mase - Watch
Details here.
Lmbaoooooo
Shyne also! But I mean that goes into what the "rumors" of shyt Puff did to his artist. Whether it was black-balling artist or just fcuking them up so much that they couldn't work anymore.
Spike Lee wanted to put the Kings of Comedy on BET later after meeting with them he was asked why did her put it out in theaters. His answer he didn't want to be paid in sandwiches
Actually, if it wasn't for Craig Mack, none of it would have popped.
#facts
Its always interesting noone complains when the money is flowing.
This!!
Puff took average artist and made them stars. Being a popular artist isn't just about talent. There are talented mfs all over the world.
Artist have to have a machine behind them that have the ability to package and promote as well as influence others.
They all made money. What they did with it is on them.
I had an interesting convo with Luke about this subject before.
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