Dave Chappelle said he's 'not bluffing' as he threatens to pull investments from the city if a affordable housing development is built

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"I just want to say I am adamantly opposed to it, "I have invested millions of dollars in town. If you push this thing through, what I'm investing in is no longer applicable."
Chappelle has plans to build a restaurant called "Firehouse Eatery" and a comedy club called "Live from YS" in the area.
Representatives for Chappelle, Oberer Homes, and the Yellow Springs Village Council did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.


At the Monday, Feb. 7, Village Council meeting, held virtually via Zoom, a request from Oberer Development Company to rezone 52.6 acres on the south end of the village as a planned unit development, or PUD, did not receive enough votes to move forward.

With the PUD option off the table, Oberer is expected to develop the land under the current R-A zoning, which features only single-family dwelling units.

The ordinance to rezone the land failed to pass after a 2–2 vote, with Council President Brian Housh and member Marianne MacQueen voting for the measure and Council members Lisa Kreeger and Carmen (Lee) Brown voting against it.

Council Vice President Kevin Stokes, who lives adjacent to the land in question, recused himself from the vote and any discussion of the project during Council’s session.

Monday’s vote was the culmination of several years of work and discussions between Village Council and administration, a small group of villagers and Oberer representatives and developers.

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In January, representatives from Oberer Development company provided renderings of two plan options for the anticipated development on the south side of town. The PUD rendering (left ) includes a park space, duplexes, townhomes, and single-family homes. The Residential-A rendering (right) includes only single-family homes. Click to view larger image.

Had Council approved the ordinance, a PUD would have allowed for a variety of dwelling units, including townhomes, duplexes and single family homes. Also, under a PUD designation, Oberer would have created a public park and several water detention and retention ponds. Additionally, land would have been donated to the Village to develop its own affordable housing.

A similar piece of legislation was brought to Council on Dec. 6, but the measure was tabled before Council took a vote. At the time, Council had concerns about the application and asked for a more detailed traffic study and a copy of the environmental analysis, among other information requests. Council proceeded to schedule two meetings with Oberer representatives: the first, a meeting between Council and Oberer; the second, a town hall style meeting where villagers could directly address Village Manager Josué Salmerón and Oberer representatives.

Council heard a first reading of the final measure on Tuesday, Jan. 18, but decided not to vote formally until the second reading of the ordinance, citing a need for additional information.

After hearing 10 letters in opposition to and three letters in support of the PUD at Monday’s meeting, Council opened the public hearing.

About 50 villagers in opposition to the PUD proposal gathered at Mills Park Hotel to watch the meeting and voice concerns with the proposal, a gathering organized by a newly formed political action committee, Resident Activism Yellow Springs, or RAYS. Thus far, the group’s primary mission has been to oppose the move to redesignate Oberer’s land as a PUD.

Vocal opponents to the land’s rezoning were in attendance, including local resident Dave Chappelle, who said that he would divest from the community should Council pass the legislation.

A number of the PUD’s opponents said that the environmental review was not sufficient, alleging that there was a dump on the property. Village native and architect Max Crome, who grew up near the property, remembers a dump having once been on the property. He and others expressed frustration over several environmental concerns, which they felt had been ignored by Council and Oberer.

“It’s extremely offensive to me when you try to sweep my environmental concerns under the rug,” Crome said to Council.

Former villager Jamie Fine supported claims that the site had been used as a dump.

“I spent time playing on that land … and I do recall that it was a garbage dump,” Fine said.

Several who spoke in opposition to the proposal said they favored a single-family development to the proposed development, which would include 64 single-family homes and 76 multi-family units.

Villager Matthew Kirk, who was a part of the negotiation meetings between the Village and Oberer, said he believes a single-family development would attract younger families.

Sharing his sentiment was former Village Council member Laura Curliss, who voted for rezoning the property as a PUD when she was the Council liaison for Planning Commission.

“Eight out of 10 people under the age of 55 want single-family residences,” Curliss said. “Those are families for the schools. Do not mistake the diversity of housing choices for the diversity of people.”

Several speakers questioned whether the development as proposed would help with the lack of affordable housing in the village. Villager Jonny Dread said that the price points for the proposed development would continue to make Yellow Springs unaffordable.

“The community I know has been slowly priced out,” he said. “I think we have enough intelligence among us; we can do better.”

While the majority of speakers were opoposed to the proposed development, several villagers spoke in favor of the PUD proposal.

Ellis Jacobs said he supported the PUD because it included land set aside for affordable housing.

“In the absence of something better we need to look seriously at what’s on offer,” Jacobs said. “Sometimes a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush.”

His sentiment was echoed by Eve Fleck, who lives near the development, and Patricia Brown, who owns a home in a PUD. Both Fleck and Brown said they believed the PUD was the better option.

“I live in a PUD now,” Brown said. “We have very expensive houses, we have Home, Inc. houses, we have medium houses; we all get along and we all love each other. A community that has all of this stuff is much better than one that only has one part of it. Vote for the PUD, please.”

After over an hour, Housh closed the public hearing and turned the floor over to his fellow Council members.

Prior to the vote, Kreeger proposed two modifications: a new site plan with options for smaller homes integrated into the development, a deeper look into the environmental analysis and a better validated and better communicated cost-benefit analysis.

“It never hurts to have more scrutiny and a more comprehensive understanding to ensure that we have the best and most accurate models,” she said.

Kreeger’s requests for modifications did not receive a second. Ultimately, the vote was a tie. MacQueen and Housh voted “yes,” saying that they believed the plan would benefit the village as a whole.

“I hope that this doesn’t have to remain divisive,” Housh said. “I hope we can get beyond and truly work together to benefit everyone in the village.”

“Having been in the community for 50 years, I know that life doesn’t follow in a straight line and there are all sorts of things that can happen,” MacQueen said. “While this isn’t what I would design as a project, I actually have a fair amount of hope and can see some positive outcomes.”

Council members Brown and Kreeger voted “no,” citing concerns for affordability. In a follow-up interview, Kreeger said that she voted no because of unaddressed environmental concerns and a desire to see a site plan that was more consistent with village needs.

“I really hoped that, rather than just the ‘no’ vote, Oberer could have had the option to bring forward a different site plan,” she said.

In a phone interview after the meeting, Brown said that she had concerns about who would find the development affordable.

“I think about the majority of people who voted for me and have expressed concerns and asked that same question,” she said. “As of last night I didn’t have an answer.”

A “no” to the PUD does not mean that Oberer will not be able to develop the property. The developers have the option of submitting a site plan that adheres to the property’s current zoning, which is mostly Residential A, but has a portion that is zoned for high density, or Residential C, and a portion that is zoned as a PUD.

Calls to Oberer to comment on their next steps were not answered as of press time.

Kreeger said she hopes that a single-family development allows families to purchase homes without driving up prices of current housing stock.

“A compelling point was made that there are people who live in Yellow Springs and don’t want to take on the lift of renovating a house,” she said. “I think that new housing stock is good, and I wish they [Oberer] would consider some smaller options.”


 
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Dave is all business on this. I completely understand his concerns and it seems like he got his way. Now the issue is, what will they do after he moves forward with his project, provided he even does implement his plan.
Based on his reaction and the fact this is the second time he had to complain about this, I'm going to guess that he is going to find some permanent means of making sure they don't try to pull no bullshit after he breaks ground.
 



"I just want to say I am adamantly opposed to it, "I have invested millions of dollars in town. If you push this thing through, what I'm investing in is no longer applicable."
Chappelle has plans to build a restaurant called "Firehouse Eatery" and a comedy club called "Live from YS" in the area.
Representatives for Chappelle, Oberer Homes, and the Yellow Springs Village Council did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.


At the Monday, Feb. 7, Village Council meeting, held virtually via Zoom, a request from Oberer Development Company to rezone 52.6 acres on the south end of the village as a planned unit development, or PUD, did not receive enough votes to move forward.

With the PUD option off the table, Oberer is expected to develop the land under the current R-A zoning, which features only single-family dwelling units.

The ordinance to rezone the land failed to pass after a 2–2 vote, with Council President Brian Housh and member Marianne MacQueen voting for the measure and Council members Lisa Kreeger and Carmen (Lee) Brown voting against it.

Council Vice President Kevin Stokes, who lives adjacent to the land in question, recused himself from the vote and any discussion of the project during Council’s session.

Monday’s vote was the culmination of several years of work and discussions between Village Council and administration, a small group of villagers and Oberer representatives and developers.

021022_CouncilListeningParty01-590x412.jpg


In January, representatives from Oberer Development company provided renderings of two plan options for the anticipated development on the south side of town. The PUD rendering (left ) includes a park space, duplexes, townhomes, and single-family homes. The Residential-A rendering (right) includes only single-family homes. Click to view larger image.

Had Council approved the ordinance, a PUD would have allowed for a variety of dwelling units, including townhomes, duplexes and single family homes. Also, under a PUD designation, Oberer would have created a public park and several water detention and retention ponds. Additionally, land would have been donated to the Village to develop its own affordable housing.

A similar piece of legislation was brought to Council on Dec. 6, but the measure was tabled before Council took a vote. At the time, Council had concerns about the application and asked for a more detailed traffic study and a copy of the environmental analysis, among other information requests. Council proceeded to schedule two meetings with Oberer representatives: the first, a meeting between Council and Oberer; the second, a town hall style meeting where villagers could directly address Village Manager Josué Salmerón and Oberer representatives.

Council heard a first reading of the final measure on Tuesday, Jan. 18, but decided not to vote formally until the second reading of the ordinance, citing a need for additional information.

After hearing 10 letters in opposition to and three letters in support of the PUD at Monday’s meeting, Council opened the public hearing.

About 50 villagers in opposition to the PUD proposal gathered at Mills Park Hotel to watch the meeting and voice concerns with the proposal, a gathering organized by a newly formed political action committee, Resident Activism Yellow Springs, or RAYS. Thus far, the group’s primary mission has been to oppose the move to redesignate Oberer’s land as a PUD.

Vocal opponents to the land’s rezoning were in attendance, including local resident Dave Chappelle, who said that he would divest from the community should Council pass the legislation.

A number of the PUD’s opponents said that the environmental review was not sufficient, alleging that there was a dump on the property. Village native and architect Max Crome, who grew up near the property, remembers a dump having once been on the property. He and others expressed frustration over several environmental concerns, which they felt had been ignored by Council and Oberer.

“It’s extremely offensive to me when you try to sweep my environmental concerns under the rug,” Crome said to Council.

Former villager Jamie Fine supported claims that the site had been used as a dump.

“I spent time playing on that land … and I do recall that it was a garbage dump,” Fine said.

Several who spoke in opposition to the proposal said they favored a single-family development to the proposed development, which would include 64 single-family homes and 76 multi-family units.

Villager Matthew Kirk, who was a part of the negotiation meetings between the Village and Oberer, said he believes a single-family development would attract younger families.

Sharing his sentiment was former Village Council member Laura Curliss, who voted for rezoning the property as a PUD when she was the Council liaison for Planning Commission.

“Eight out of 10 people under the age of 55 want single-family residences,” Curliss said. “Those are families for the schools. Do not mistake the diversity of housing choices for the diversity of people.”

Several speakers questioned whether the development as proposed would help with the lack of affordable housing in the village. Villager Jonny Dread said that the price points for the proposed development would continue to make Yellow Springs unaffordable.

“The community I know has been slowly priced out,” he said. “I think we have enough intelligence among us; we can do better.”

While the majority of speakers were opoposed to the proposed development, several villagers spoke in favor of the PUD proposal.

Ellis Jacobs said he supported the PUD because it included land set aside for affordable housing.

“In the absence of something better we need to look seriously at what’s on offer,” Jacobs said. “Sometimes a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush.”

His sentiment was echoed by Eve Fleck, who lives near the development, and Patricia Brown, who owns a home in a PUD. Both Fleck and Brown said they believed the PUD was the better option.

“I live in a PUD now,” Brown said. “We have very expensive houses, we have Home, Inc. houses, we have medium houses; we all get along and we all love each other. A community that has all of this stuff is much better than one that only has one part of it. Vote for the PUD, please.”

After over an hour, Housh closed the public hearing and turned the floor over to his fellow Council members.

Prior to the vote, Kreeger proposed two modifications: a new site plan with options for smaller homes integrated into the development, a deeper look into the environmental analysis and a better validated and better communicated cost-benefit analysis.

“It never hurts to have more scrutiny and a more comprehensive understanding to ensure that we have the best and most accurate models,” she said.

Kreeger’s requests for modifications did not receive a second. Ultimately, the vote was a tie. MacQueen and Housh voted “yes,” saying that they believed the plan would benefit the village as a whole.

“I hope that this doesn’t have to remain divisive,” Housh said. “I hope we can get beyond and truly work together to benefit everyone in the village.”

“Having been in the community for 50 years, I know that life doesn’t follow in a straight line and there are all sorts of things that can happen,” MacQueen said. “While this isn’t what I would design as a project, I actually have a fair amount of hope and can see some positive outcomes.”

Council members Brown and Kreeger voted “no,” citing concerns for affordability. In a follow-up interview, Kreeger said that she voted no because of unaddressed environmental concerns and a desire to see a site plan that was more consistent with village needs.

“I really hoped that, rather than just the ‘no’ vote, Oberer could have had the option to bring forward a different site plan,” she said.

In a phone interview after the meeting, Brown said that she had concerns about who would find the development affordable.

“I think about the majority of people who voted for me and have expressed concerns and asked that same question,” she said. “As of last night I didn’t have an answer.”

A “no” to the PUD does not mean that Oberer will not be able to develop the property. The developers have the option of submitting a site plan that adheres to the property’s current zoning, which is mostly Residential A, but has a portion that is zoned for high density, or Residential C, and a portion that is zoned as a PUD.

Calls to Oberer to comment on their next steps were not answered as of press time.

Kreeger said she hopes that a single-family development allows families to purchase homes without driving up prices of current housing stock.

“A compelling point was made that there are people who live in Yellow Springs and don’t want to take on the lift of renovating a house,” she said. “I think that new housing stock is good, and I wish they [Oberer] would consider some smaller options.”




OP Colin nigha! I ain't reading all this shit. Cliff notes?
 
Based on his reaction and the fact this is the second time he had to complain about this, I'm going to guess that he is going to find some permanent means of making sure they don't try to pull no bullshit after he breaks ground.
I'm kind of familiar with that area and I don't understand why he wants to invest there. Them yahoo, bumpkins are definitely going to try and shake him down later. Hope he has others on the hook with him that are plugged into that ole boy network.
 
Seems pretty fucked up on his part. A $200K home is a great start for most people. Not sure I agree with this shit. Not my town though.
Gives off white suburban, "Not in my backyard" vibes....


Someone on Twitter said just because your favorite entertainer ACTS like they're progressive or ACTS like they're radical doesnt mean they are in real life.

Dave Chappelle has an Asian wife and lives as far away from Black people as possible.
 
I'm kind of familiar with that area and I don't understand why he wants to invest there. Them yahoo, bumpkins are definitely going to try and shake him down later. Hope he has others on the hook with him that are plugged into that ole boy network.
Are you old enough to remember when FoxxConn promised a whole bunch of jobs for Wisconsin? How did that work out?

The promise of jobs outweighs the promise of cheap, affordable housing. What a time to be alive.
 
Someone on Twitter said just because your favorite entertainer ACTS like they're progressive or ACTS like they're radical doesnt mean they are in real life.

Dave Chappelle has an Asian wife and lives as far away from Black people as possible.
Saw a dope video on how "progressive liberals" in California talk the talk but won't walk the walk when it comes to affordable housing in their neighborhoods too. It's part of the reason housing is so expensive. It's that no matter what party affiliation.... people with money adopt a "not in my backyard" attitude...
 
Saw a dope video on how "progressive liberals" in California talk the talk but won't walk the walk when it comes to affordable housing in their neighborhoods too. It's part of the reason housing is so expensive. It's that no matter what party affiliation.... people with money adopt a "not in my backyard" attitude...
yep
last few election cycles here, nearly every so called progressive measure got DENIED.
ya hate ta see it
 
Dave Chappelle said he's 'not bluffing' as he threatens to pull investments from the city if an affordable housing development is built

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An angry Dave Chappelle told his hometown council meeting Monday that he would not build two planned businesses in the area if they approved an ordinance that included dozens of affordable houing units.

The meeting, held Monday in Yellow Springs, Ohio, saw the ordinance defeated. Earlier, Chappelle called the village council “clowns” and said his ventures would be “off the table.”

Chappelle reportedly is planning to develop a restaurant, the Firehouse Eatery, and comedy club, Live from YS. Both are under development in an old village firehouse, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported last year. The venues will sell food and alcohol and have indoor and outdoor seating, with separate seating for performances.

Documents posted by the Yellow Springs council showed that the proposal that angered Chappelle was pitched as a way to reduce the cost of housing and allow workers for village services to live near their jobs.

Chappelle’s company, Iron Table Holdings LLC, bought the former Miami Twp. Fire Station in December 2020 as the site for the ventures.

Yellow Springs is located near Dayton, Ohio, just north of Cincinnati. Chappelle previously said he envisioned the restaurant and club as intimate settings that will attract top and local talent
Chappelle did not say at the Monday meeting why he opposed the new development plan by the zoning committee. However, an architect who has worked with him said that the planned development would serve those outside the village more than its residents.
However, at a December meeting, the Dayton Daily News reported that Chappelle said he was “adamantly opposed” to the planned housing project and has “invested millions of dollars in town. If you push this thing through, what I’m investing in is no longer applicable.”
At the Monday meeting, according to video posted to the Yellow Springs Community Access YouTube page, Chapelle asked why the council would pursue the housing plan “while it kicks out a $65 million-a-year company.”
“I cannot believe you would make me audition for you, you look like clowns,” Chappelle said Monday. “I am not bluffing. I will take it all off the table.”
The vote on the matter deadlocked at 2-2, ensuring the new housing development cannot proceed, the Dayton Daily News reported.


 
Read somewhere that the population there is
82% white
10% Black
etc.

Maybe that nigga Dave don't want no white trash expanding their numbers around him while he contributes to the local economy. :dunno:
that was the exact same thing that crosed my mind as well. Would these folks be trying this hard to push for affordable housing if the majority of folks to benefit were black?
 
I need to hear his reasoning for being against affordable housing for anyone. On the face of it his objection resembles that of more affluent people not wanting people of lesser means living near them. Hard for me to believe that about Dave so not knowing more I'll withhold judgment. :hmm:
 
He doesn't want to hear sirens and gun shots...Shit I feel him....I am all for affordable housing and stuff, but got damn does those vouchers bring alot of Bull Shit with it.
(only my stance because I am low key dealing with that now here in DC)
This is bullshit..sirens and gun shots are usually a result of poverty and unemployment. That's the real issue..not blaming poor people for being poor like it's their choice. Then being surprised when crime comes about because of it
 
Saw a dope video on how "progressive liberals" in California talk the talk but won't walk the walk when it comes to affordable housing in their neighborhoods too. It's part of the reason housing is so expensive. It's that no matter what party affiliation.... people with money adopt a "not in my backyard" attitude...
I know Last Week Tonight did a segment on this, as well. Made me stare at the open lot near my house and really think about it for a good, long while. I think I finally decided that if it came down to it, I would try to let them do whatever they needed to in order to help people down on their luck, because it didn't make sense to just assume that it would be a bad thing.
 
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