Update: Car companies stand to make billions by charging you monthly fees Car subscriptions are coming — whether Americans like them or not

What price are you willing to pay before saying fuck it.


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  • Car companies want to rake in billions by asking customers to subscribe to vehicle features.
  • Today, carmakers offer subscriptions for automatic high beams, remote start, and other functions.
  • Consumers don't seem as excited about the trend as car companies.
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How would you feel about paying $5 each month for the ability to lock and unlock your car from a distance through an app? What about a $25-per-month charge for advanced cruise control or $10 to access heated seats? What if those charges continued long after your car was paid off?
As vehicles become increasingly connected to the internet, car companies aim to rake in billions by having customers pay monthly or annual subscriptions to access certain features. Not content with the relatively low-margin business of building and selling cars, automakers are eager to pull down Silicon Valley-style profits. But unlike with Netflix, you won't be able to use your ex-girlfriend's uncle's login in your new BMW.

For automakers, the advantage of this model is clear. Not only do they get a stream of recurring revenue for years after an initial purchase, they can hope to maintain a longer-term relationship with the customer and build brand loyalty, said Kristin Kolodge, an analyst at JD Power.
This approach can also allow carmakers to streamline manufacturing by building cars to more uniform specifications, Mark Wakefield, who runs the automotive and industrial practice at the consulting firm AlixPartners, told Insider. Down the line, owners can add on the features they want à la carte.

It's all made possible by the advent of over-the-air software updates, which were pioneered by Tesla around a decade ago and are now entering the mainstream. Today's vehicles are more internet-connected and computerized than ever before, meaning car companies can reach deep inside a vehicle to add new capabilities and tweak things from a distance.

Brands including Lexus, Toyota, and Subaru invite owners to pay for the convenience of being able to lock or start their cars remotely through an app. In some BMWs, you can pay to unlock automatic high-beam headlights, which dim for oncoming traffic. In 2020, BMW floated the idea of pay-as-you-go heated seats and steering wheels. General Motors and Ford both offer subscription plans for their hands-free highway driving systems.
Some people may welcome the ability to only pay for the features they actually want, rather than a big bundle of add-ons. But car companies still haven't figured out exactly what customers are willing to pay for, and what feels like a turnoff.
In 2019, BMW abandoned a plan to charge $80 per year for Apple CarPlay after widespread pushback. In December, Toyota said it would review a subscription plan that unintentionally paywalled use of the key fob for remote start.

"I think we're going to see some interesting ebbs and flows of what really sticks," Kolodge told Insider. A JD Power survey published in January found that 58% of people who use an automaker's smartphone app wouldn't be willing to pay for it.
Automakers run the risk of making customers feel like they're paying twice — once for a function to be built into a vehicle and again to activate it, Kolodge said. They may have more luck asking people to subscribe to brand-new services, rather than familiar features, she added.
Still, automakers see dollar signs. Stellantis (formerly Fiat Chrysler), Ford, and GM each aim to generate at least $20 billion in annual revenue from software services by 2030.

Over-the-air capabilities open up huge opportunities for carmakers to introduce new subscription or pay-per use features over time, Wakefield, of AlixPartners, said. Someday, you may be able to fork over extra to make your car more efficient, sportier, or — in an electric vehicle — unlock extra range for road trips.

 
I got the FordPass luckily my job picks up the bill it's only $20 a month, when my son got his ride they tired so sell him on a OnStar plan through the dealership for $75 a month, he went through OnStar his self and got 2 years free and $25 month after.
 
Welp guess ima keep my 2017 Dodge Scatpack forever! My car comes with everything and I’ll be damned if you strip everything away and I gotta pay 12 things separately a month FOH


I'm SURE they'll be kind and thoughtful enough to give people (NOT YOU!) a single place to throw their money in.
 
I could see the monthly fee for remotely locking and unlocking your car. Having to go through the app, the way software services are setup today, you just don't out an buy a software suites. Factor in that the car needs to be on a some kind of cell service, don't know if that is YOUR cell plan or if they have their own cell connection. It makes sense...that said I gotta pay monthly for heated seats and advanced HARDWARE features?!?!? Fcuk outta here!!!! I HOPE nobody buys that shyt and the cost of maintaining it is more than the people paying!!! This is like paying a monthly fee for cup holders and air bags!
 
This is nothing new. I don't know if any of your remember about 10 years ago GM had a proposal that all of their cars could only be leased. The consumer would never own any of their cars. It was shot down because I think it got bad reception and rightfully so.

But if y'all think cars are the only ones doing this then you have another thing coming. Rumor has it Apple would like the iPhone to have complete ownership and users would never be able to own it outright. I think this was revealed during the Right to Repair lawsuits Apple has been fighting these past few years.
 
The subscription service will be the money maker...

This will never happen..

Options are a part of the selling module.
the options would still be there just turned off and on resale they could get even more out of an older vehicle (that they had potentially stopped profiting from) if and when the new owners cut those services on after purchase... fucking insidious
 
This is nothing new. I don't know if any of your remember about 10 years ago GM had a proposal that all of their cars could only be leased. The consumer would never own any of their cars. It was shot down because I think it got bad reception and rightfully so.

But if y'all think cars are the only ones doing this then you have another thing coming. Rumor has it Apple would like the iPhone to have complete ownership and users would never be able to own it outright. I think this was revealed during the Right to Repair lawsuits Apple has been fighting these past few years.
Also, around the same time, auto makers wanted to make the whole car "intellectual property", so people wouldn't be able to repair their own cars, thus forcing them to have to go to the dealership for repairs.
 
... that subscription base services was the new hustle by big bizz..they want that long term consistent money..now cars doing it for reg services lol smh



Agreed. I listen to a handful of TV / movie industry insider podcasts, and it's funny when even they (working in the field) have a difficult time explaining to the listeners ALL the choices in streaming services. What series are available where. Even they can't keep up with what's available where, while all these big companies try to milk every last possible dollar ...
 
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I could see the monthly fee for remotely locking and unlocking your car. Having to go through the app, the way software services are setup today, you just don't out an buy a software suites.

What about the obvious danger of a centralized control of thousands of cars. Hacking.

Can you imagine when (not if) the company is hacked and charged a kings ransom by some random Russian teens to regain control? Or if you individually have to pay a ransom :smh:
 
Capitalism is some shit.
I was about to say the same exact thing. All capitalism does is screw the regular people

Merica!

AKA The United Corporations of America

White people praise this goddamn country while the country does everything it can to fuck over the people who live here. You roll thru a stop sign on an empty street, $150.

Who has an extra $150 just laying around at the end of the month

Poor people don't. And the person gets fucked. American keeps finding ways to fuck over the people who live here
 
This is not a scam.

These fees are nothing new. Before google maps folks paid a monthly fee for their GPS. Some still pay for Sirius XM. That $5/month app start fee is great for folks who buy a car to rent it out.

The only problem is that a lot of these services get pushed on folks who don't need them, but again, dealerships have been doing this for years. So does a television every time you watch a commercial.
 
Lmaoooo I told nigs in other threads that subscription base services was the new hustle by big bizz..they want that long term consistent money..now cars doing it for reg services lol smh

Right on, write on, bruh!! This corporation/colony/country over the decades have figured out the name of the game is to get every penny from those they consider the lower class of this money triangle!! All they gotta do is put into heavy rotation/repetition there actors(movies, music, sports and politicians stars) on the television, media/social media for 6wks and the majority of the masses will buy whatever they are being programmed to do!!
 
I could see the monthly fee for remotely locking and unlocking your car. Having to go through the app, the way software services are setup today, you just don't out an buy a software suites. Factor in that the car needs to be on a some kind of cell service, don't know if that is YOUR cell plan or if they have their own cell connection. It makes sense...that said I gotta pay monthly for heated seats and advanced HARDWARE features?!?!? Fcuk outta here!!!! I HOPE nobody buys that shyt and the cost of maintaining it is more than the people paying!!! This is like paying a monthly fee for cup holders and air bags!
bro this is going to add WEIGHT to your vehicle which will lower gas mileage potentially costing your thousands of dollars over the ownership lifetime so they can score points on the back end of a used car sale.
 
Just wanted to add two more cents...

I hate to sound like an old geezer because I am not... but I think this is going to be the norm in the future. These youngin's don't seem to have the sense of ownership like we do. It is already reported that milennials are not buying homes and cars and such. They are OK with renting and Uber. So I think them not owning a car will be acceptable for them

eh, who knows, (shrug shoulders)
 
  • Car companies want to rake in billions by asking customers to subscribe to vehicle features.
  • Today, carmakers offer subscriptions for automatic high beams, remote start, and other functions.
  • Consumers don't seem as excited about the trend as car companies.
e44c683d738219055f745805d79a1fa5


How would you feel about paying $5 each month for the ability to lock and unlock your car from a distance through an app? What about a $25-per-month charge for advanced cruise control or $10 to access heated seats? What if those charges continued long after your car was paid off?
As vehicles become increasingly connected to the internet, car companies aim to rake in billions by having customers pay monthly or annual subscriptions to access certain features. Not content with the relatively low-margin business of building and selling cars, automakers are eager to pull down Silicon Valley-style profits. But unlike with Netflix, you won't be able to use your ex-girlfriend's uncle's login in your new BMW.

For automakers, the advantage of this model is clear. Not only do they get a stream of recurring revenue for years after an initial purchase, they can hope to maintain a longer-term relationship with the customer and build brand loyalty, said Kristin Kolodge, an analyst at JD Power.
This approach can also allow carmakers to streamline manufacturing by building cars to more uniform specifications, Mark Wakefield, who runs the automotive and industrial practice at the consulting firm AlixPartners, told Insider. Down the line, owners can add on the features they want à la carte.

It's all made possible by the advent of over-the-air software updates, which were pioneered by Tesla around a decade ago and are now entering the mainstream. Today's vehicles are more internet-connected and computerized than ever before, meaning car companies can reach deep inside a vehicle to add new capabilities and tweak things from a distance.

Brands including Lexus, Toyota, and Subaru invite owners to pay for the convenience of being able to lock or start their cars remotely through an app. In some BMWs, you can pay to unlock automatic high-beam headlights, which dim for oncoming traffic. In 2020, BMW floated the idea of pay-as-you-go heated seats and steering wheels. General Motors and Ford both offer subscription plans for their hands-free highway driving systems.
Some people may welcome the ability to only pay for the features they actually want, rather than a big bundle of add-ons. But car companies still haven't figured out exactly what customers are willing to pay for, and what feels like a turnoff.
In 2019, BMW abandoned a plan to charge $80 per year for Apple CarPlay after widespread pushback. In December, Toyota said it would review a subscription plan that unintentionally paywalled use of the key fob for remote start.

"I think we're going to see some interesting ebbs and flows of what really sticks," Kolodge told Insider. A JD Power survey published in January found that 58% of people who use an automaker's smartphone app wouldn't be willing to pay for it.
Automakers run the risk of making customers feel like they're paying twice — once for a function to be built into a vehicle and again to activate it, Kolodge said. They may have more luck asking people to subscribe to brand-new services, rather than familiar features, she added.
Still, automakers see dollar signs. Stellantis (formerly Fiat Chrysler), Ford, and GM each aim to generate at least $20 billion in annual revenue from software services by 2030.

Over-the-air capabilities open up huge opportunities for carmakers to introduce new subscription or pay-per use features over time, Wakefield, of AlixPartners, said. Someday, you may be able to fork over extra to make your car more efficient, sportier, or — in an electric vehicle — unlock extra range for road trips.

Shit is a pure scam :smh: Praying on the elderly and women.
The subscription service will be the money maker...

This will never happen..

Options are a part of the selling module.
This is not a scam.

These fees are nothing new. Before google maps folks paid a monthly fee for their GPS. Some still pay for Sirius XM. That $5/month app start fee is great for folks who buy a car to rent it out.

The only problem is that a lot of these services get pushed on folks who don't need them, but again, dealerships have been doing this for years. So does a television every time you watch a commercial.
This will never happen. BMW tried this with car play and caught hell. Now it’s free again

Not just preying on the elderly but most new vehicle consumers.

Someone mentioned the Ford pass and the new Ram vehicles have the u-connect.

Worse thing is that it’s initially free and once you get accustomed to it the 2 or 3 year trial isup.

So if I have SmartThings that controls all the devices in my house remotely, why is this not a subscription service.

Answer…..because it doesn’t have to be. If your vehicle has WIFi, why do you need a third party to control these devices.

Corporate greed….pretty sure a hack is in the making.

Carry on…..
 
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