I've changed my mind.....I'm now rooting for Covid

[Mixd]

They clowning us...

Flu is making a comeback in US after an unusual year off

The U.S. flu season has arrived on schedule after taking a year off

By CARLA K. JOHNSON AP Medical Writer
December 27, 2021, 5:23 PM

The U.S. flu season has arrived on schedule after taking a year off, with flu hospitalizations rising and two child deaths reported.

Last year's flu season was the lowest on record, likely because COVID-19 measures — school closures, distancing, masks and canceled travel — prevented the spread of influenza, or because the coronavirus somehow pushed aside other viruses.

Flu is making a comeback in US after an unusual year off

The U.S. flu season has arrived on schedule after taking a year off

abcnews.go.com

 

[Drayonis]

The virus is afraid of outside lol

It's damn not afraid of elderberry juice and horse dewormer.

 

[Supersav]

It's damn not afraid of elderberry juice and horse dewormer.

Who said to take any of that shit? It's all bullshit

 

[zod16]

Stating "facts" from NYS and any site, believing in this variant hype is madness.

Answer me this, Thanksgiving day Omicron was first started. The same week South Africa said they are ending their mandates. On Friday, the next day after Thanksgiving, the world starts saying oh we spotted one case here, one case there. Let's all stop travel from South Africa the very next day.

How were they able to determine and test and differentiate between any variant what anything was? Where are these tests? What blood sample are they using? From who? Hospitalized people? Cause they not testing a nasal swab are they?

No one finds that odd?
They create this fear porn and masses eat it up.

I've yet to see any factual instances of variants. I know very well that there's a virus going around.

But hey have at it. Now you got Flurona to worry about. Enjoy

This is how they clown NYC to convince "us"

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Not really. The sequencing and sharing of data between countries has happened for a while now. This is a pre-covid article describing it and how much it helped with tracking influenza variants: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5388101/

You can see the data being shared here: https://www.gisaid.org/hcov19-variants/

European countries are doing the best job right now but South Africa is doing way more sequencing than a lot of countries as well as pretty much every other country in Africa. Their reward for doing everything correctly was travel bans which is a whole other topic.

 

[blackpepper]

But we both know we are not talking about once/year vaccinations. Nice try tho. Kudos to those that cosigned your response.

There is no "WE", and I'm not trying to know, anything, but what I've read this year. What do you know about how vaccines work? The folks working on these vaccines typically have MD or PhD level training and often decades of clinical experience and research behind them. Sooooo, again WHAT DO YOU KNOW that they don't?

 

[Mixd]

Not really. The sequencing and sharing of data between countries has happened for a while now. This is a pre-covid article describing it and how much it helped with tracking influenza variants: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5388101/

You can see the data being shared here: https://www.gisaid.org/hcov19-variants/

European countries are doing the best job right now but South Africa is doing way more sequencing than a lot of countries as well as pretty much every other country in Africa. Their reward for doing everything correctly was travel bans which is a whole other topic.

Yes genome sequencing. Which is why I ask how was that done the day after the first detection was known worldwide.
No PCR test will tell you a variant. They need blood and lab testing which can take days to determine a variant thru sequencing.

Omicron Variant: Why Getting a COVID Test Won't Tell You Which Variant You May Have

Omicron Variant: Why Getting a COVID Test Won't Tell You Which Variant You May Have

Getting tested for coronavirus won’t tell you whether or not you have the new omicron variant. The process to determine the variant, experts say, is more complicated than that.

www.nbcchicago.com

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

Bullshit.

Right. You are choosing to believe bullshit while facts are right in your face.

 

[Madrox]

This thread (considering the circumstances) is hilarious

Why would there be a hard fast limit to the number of boosters? Some people get a flu vaccine every year. Just saying. ...

But we both know we are not talking about once/year vaccinations. Nice try tho. Kudos to those that cosigned your response.

I'm not trying to know, anything, but what I've read this year. What do you know about how vaccines work? The folks working on these vaccines typically have MD or PhD level training and often decades of clinical experience and research behind them. Sooooo, again WHAT DO YOU KNOW that they don't?

I'm assuming that would be the goal eventually, a once a year booster like the flu. That is if we can ever get this shit under control to that same level.

 

[scullydog]

Right. You are choosing to believe bullshit while facts are right in your face.

I think you are chosing to believe bullshit. I'm right on my square, you dig.

 

[scullydog]

How many of your friends and family have died from the shot? How many in a wheelchair?

A bunch of people have died from covid after taking the shot. Keep living, keep living.

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

I think you are chosing to believe bullshit. I right on my square, you dig.

No youre not.

Any rational person knows vaccines work.

Youre pretending that covid vaccines are dangerous.

A bunch of people have died from covid after taking the shot. Keep living, keep living.

Did they die from the vaccine?

 

[hardawayz16]

She was OUTSIDE. Why is this even a story?

Maybe because she represents a state where 5 year olds need proof of vax to eat in a restaurant?

Maybe because her colleagues used every opportunity to criticize the FL Gov's decision not to mandate mask and vaxxes?

 

[Drayonis]

A bunch of people have died from covid after taking the shot. Keep living, keep living.

Which ones you personally know? I'll wait

 

[Drayonis]

A bunch of people have died from covid after taking the shot. Keep living, keep living.

@tallblacknyc you asked for it. Here it is

 

[Camille]

She ain't in her own state, at a time of this plandemic, she has time to vacation

Not about what she doing, that she should be doing it in NYC, fixing the issues there, yet has time to chill in Miami

Congress is not in session. We don't know how she traveled, but if she flew she would have been masked. She isn't in a large group. We know she is vaccinated. Protests taught us being outside doesn't cause super spreader events. What is the issue?

 

[Camille]

They clowning us...

Flu is making a comeback in US after an unusual year off

The U.S. flu season has arrived on schedule after taking a year off

By CARLA K. JOHNSON AP Medical Writer
December 27, 2021, 5:23 PM

The U.S. flu season has arrived on schedule after taking a year off, with flu hospitalizations rising and two child deaths reported.

Last year's flu season was the lowest on record, likely because COVID-19 measures — school closures, distancing, masks and canceled travel — prevented the spread of influenza, or because the coronavirus somehow pushed aside other viruses.

Flu is making a comeback in US after an unusual year off

The U.S. flu season has arrived on schedule after taking a year off

abcnews.go.com

People stopped masking.

 

[silverhawk]

There is no "WE", and I'm not trying to know, anything, but what I've read this year. What do you know about how vaccines work? The folks working on these vaccines typically have MD or PhD level training and often decades of clinical experience and research behind them. Sooooo, again WHAT DO YOU KNOW that they don't?

I can tell what I dont know and what they dont know. They do not know what will happen to everyone who has been vaccinated next year. LOL Decades of clinical experience......what is the 3 year outlook for those that have received the vaccine? two year outlook? Why do we have increased cardiac events? Why are professional athletes suffering from cardiac injuries?

Did you read on the long term effects of this vaccine?? No, you didn't.

You don't seem to be aware of the corners cut for this mediocre vaccine. Seems pfizer/moderna/AZ/JnJ overlooked some important items. Of course they are not liable, but you don't care about that. Looks like employers are off the hook, the pharmaceutical companies are off the hook, the govt is off the hook. Everyone is off the hook accept for you. Do you feel at ease with this scenario? You will be left holding the bag.

 

[zod16]

Yes genome sequencing. Which is why I ask how was that done the day after the first detection was known worldwide.
No PCR test will tell you a variant. They need blood and lab testing which can take days to determine a variant thru sequencing.

Omicron Variant: Why Getting a COVID Test Won't Tell You Which Variant You May Have

Omicron Variant: Why Getting a COVID Test Won't Tell You Which Variant You May Have

Getting tested for coronavirus won’t tell you whether or not you have the new omicron variant. The process to determine the variant, experts say, is more complicated than that.

www.nbcchicago.com

I don't really understand what you are saying. They did the sequencing and alerted other countries like they do with all new variants.

In mid-November, Moyo identified an unusual pattern in the sequencing of COVID-19 samples that looked very different from the Delta variant, which has been dominant in Botswana and throughout the world for months. He shared the information with colleagues in South Africa, who also found a lot of the same sequence in specimens dating back several weeks. “It was Sikhulile’s flagging of this variant, which was first announced by South African colleagues, that led to the world taking notice of its spread,” Shapiro noted in a prior interview.

Moyo’s discovery was no accident, said Shapiro. “Our lab, a collaboration between the Botswana government and Harvard Chan School and, is the premier HIV lab in the country,” he said. “Once the pandemic hit, we quickly pivoted to doing COVID work in addition to our HIV work. We began performing about 30%–40% of the nation’s COVID PCR testing, and doing virtually all of the sequencing, in partnership with the government. At this point the lab has sequenced more than 2,000 virus samples from various geographical locations in Botswana.”

He noted that the researchers from Botswana and South Africa have done the world a huge service by providing the sequencing data so quickly, enabling vaccine manufacturers to begin work toward retooling their vaccines to fight Omicron. “I can only hope that the favor will be returned when the vaccines are created so that southern Africa is offered those same vaccines,” he said.

Noted Moyo, “Look at how many continents, how many countries are reporting Omicron right now,” he said. “This indicates that we are a global economy, a global village, and we should be responding in a similar way—with a global response.”

Botswana researcher who sequenced Omicron urges more genomic surveillance, vaccinations in Africa | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

As the world waits to learn more about Omicron, the latest SARS-CoV-2 variant, the Botswana-based researcher who produced the first genetic sequence of the virus spoke about the importance of ramping up sequencing and vaccination in Africa, and of lifting travel bans against African nations.

www.hsph.harvard.edu

 

[scullydog]

No youre not.

Any rational person knows vaccines work.

Youre pretending that covid vaccines are dangerous.


Did they die from the vaccine?

Dude, first off, i'm not saying vaccines don't work. I am saying I am not putting that exploratory bullshit in my body. You can do what the fuck you want too, but I am not putting some shit these motherfucker through together in 9 months in my body. I suggest that you don't either. You don't know what you are getting. Yeah, I believe in vaccines that have been through the 10 year process. This shit came about in 9 months. Nawh, not putting that made up shit in my veins. Plus, this government don't mind killing you rather you are white or black. I always say take your time. I also think this vaccine mandate shit is unnecessary. We can and eventually will shelter in so we can end this shit. Its gonna happen. But government was too fucking weak to make it happen or complicit in their fuck job.

 

[Camille]

Maybe because she represents a state where 5 year olds need proof of vax to eat in a restaurant?

Maybe because her colleagues used every opportunity to criticize the FL Gov's decision not to mandate mask and vaxxes?

She's not IN a restaurant and I agree she's stupid for visiting ground zero for covid.

 

[scullydog]

Which ones you personally know? I'll wait

Keep waiting, just go to any of the hospitals that had people die with covid. I am sure there are victims there who had the shot. The shot don't stop you from getting covid or dying from it. SMH You niggahs really believe the white man's water is colder.

 

[Madrox]

I can tell what I dont know and what they dont know. They do not know what will happen to everyone who has been vaccinated next year. LOL Decades of clinical experience......what is the 3 year outlook for those that have received the vaccine? two year outlook? Why do we have increased cardiac events? Why are professional athletes suffering from cardiac injuries?

True, def still a lot of unknowns. It's gonna be a work in progress for sure.

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

Dude, first off, i'm not saying vaccines don't work. I am saying I am not putting that exploratory bullshit in my body. You can do what the fuck you want too, but I am not putting some shit these motherfucker through together in 9 months in my body. I suggest that you don't either. You don't know what you are getting. Yeah, I believe in vaccines that have been through the 10 year process. This shit came about in 9 months. Nawh, not putting that made up shit in my veins. Plus, this government don't mind killing you rather you are white or black. I always say take your time. I also think this vaccine mandate shit is unnecessary. We can and eventually will shelter in so we can end this shit. Its gonna happen. But government was too fucking weak to make it happen or complicit in their fuck job.

The current vaccines for covid have been in development for THIRTY years.

The Long History of mRNA Vaccines | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

A look at how this vaccine technology has been in the works for decades.

publichealth.jhu.edu

Whats your next excuse?

 

[scullydog]

No youre not.

Any rational person knows vaccines work.

Youre pretending that covid vaccines are dangerous.


Did they die from the vaccine?

So you think that every person that is dying from covid is unvaccinated? This is asinine.

 

[zod16]

Keep waiting, just go to any of the hospitals that had people die with covid. I am sure there are victims there who had the shot. The shot don't stop you from getting covid or dying from it. SMH You niggahs really believe the white man's water is colder.

Look at the vaccinated deaths compared to unvaccinated. Same state, same age groups etc. but you are looking at as much as a 30X increase in deaths for the unvaccinated.

COVID-19 was deadlier for unvaccinated Texans across age groups
Reported deaths from mid-January to October show that most COVID-19 deaths occurred among unvaccinated younger and older Texans.

	COVID-19 deaths among Texans
Age group	Unvaccinated	Vaccinated
18-29 years	339	< 10
30-39	1,019	25
40-49	2,332	62
50-64	6,789	357
65-74	6,215	509
75+	7,810	1,243

Unvaccinated Texans make up vast majority of COVID-19 cases and deaths this year, new state data shows

The new state survey is the first time Texas health officials have been able to statistically measure the vaccine's true impact on the pandemic.

www.texastribune.org

You can find similar data from every state.

 

[scullydog]

The current vaccines for covid have been in development for THIRTY years.

The Long History of mRNA Vaccines | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

A look at how this vaccine technology has been in the works for decades.

publichealth.jhu.edu

Whats your next excuse?

No excuse, the problem is the shit wasn't working. So, now its working. Fuck out of here with this bullshit. I'll say this. You do what you want and I will do what the fuck I want. I will not further entertain this bullshit.

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

So you think that every person that is dying from covid is unvaccinated? This is asinine.

No. I think that for every one vaccinated person who dies from covid 14 unvaccinated people die from covid. Its worse in Texas.

 

[scullydog]

Look at the vaccinated deaths compared to unvaccinated. Same state, same age groups etc. but you are looking at as much as a 30X increase in deaths for the unvaccinated.

COVID-19 was deadlier for unvaccinated Texans across age groups
Reported deaths from mid-January to October show that most COVID-19 deaths occurred among unvaccinated younger and older Texans.

Age group	Unvaccinated	Vaccinated
	COVID-19 deaths among Texans
18-29 years	339	< 10
30-39	1,019	25
40-49	2,332	62
50-64	6,789	357
65-74	6,215	509
75+	7,810	1,243

Unvaccinated Texans make up vast majority of COVID-19 cases and deaths this year, new state data shows

The new state survey is the first time Texas health officials have been able to statistically measure the vaccine's true impact on the pandemic.

www.texastribune.org

You can find similar data from every state.

So, you answered my question. People die with covid after getting the vaccine. I didn't say that unvaccinated people didn't die from covid, but you niggah act like this is a zero sum game. Again, you do you, and I will do me.

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

No excuse, the problem is the shit wasn't working. So, now its working. Fuck out of here with this bullshit. I'll say this. You do what you want and I will do what the fuck I want. I will not further entertain this bullshit.

It wasnt working? Since people started getting fully vaccinated deaths and hospitalizations dropped...amongst the vaccinated.

Unvaccinated are still dying from it in disproportionate numbers.

 

[Drayonis]

Keep waiting, just go to any of the hospitals that had people die with covid. I am sure there are victims there who had the shot. The shot don't stop you from getting covid or dying from it. SMH You niggahs really believe the white man's water is colder.

No you're saying people got covid and died "from" the shot or are you saying they died after the shot? Hard to read what ur saying

 

[scullydog]

No. I think that for every one vaccinated person who dies from covid 14 unvaccinated people die from covid. Its worse in Texas.

But they still dying right? What happens when the dust drops a couple years down the road and you have maladies because of the vaccine. Then what?

 

[scullydog]

No you're saying people got covid and died from the shot.

No, I did not say that. You assumed that I am saying that. What I am saying I will take my chance on recovery after getting the virus then find out 5, 10, or 15 years down the road that I gave myself something I can't recover from when all I had to do what wait this shit out.

 

[LordSinister]

No, I did not say that. You assumed that I am saying that. What I am saying I will take my chance on recovery after getting the virus then find out 5, 10, or 15 years down the road that I gave myself something I can't recover from when all I had to do what wait this shit out.

Because of anti vax anti max jack asses we will still be in this shit 15 years from now

 

[Mixd]

A little timeline...

Jan 2021 (vaccine released to public)
Covid deaths 340k

National Data: Deaths

COVID deaths numbers in the US for each day from January 2020 to the present.

covidtracking.com

Dec 2021
Covid deaths 814k

US COVID-19 cases and deaths by state

How is the nation faring against COVID-19, both overall and at a state level? Get the answers here, with data on hotspots and infection rates. This map tracks the history of coronavirus cases in America, both recent and all-time.

usafacts.org

So what's working?

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

But they still dying right? What happens when the dust drops a couple years down the road and you have maladies because of the vaccine. Then what?

No, they ARE NOT STILL DYING. 92 out of every 100 vaccinated people have not gotten infected, not gotten hospitalized.

98 out of every 100 hospitalized with covid are unvaccinated.

Why cant you understand that MOST vaccinated people dont get covid at all?