Kamala Harris's approval rating falls to 28%, a historic low for any modern vice president

[notreally]

Nawh, bruh. The problem is the Dems ain't doing shit. All they have to do is tackle one problem at a time and fix that shit. Fuck all the other shit, like we don't have the numbers, etc. Them bitch made motherfuckers got the numbers and they still ain't doing shit. So, that tells me one thing. You wasn't gonna do shit in the first place. So, I will not save them ever again. I am going to tool up, get in shape and get my health right, just in case shit will hit the fan. Because, as we all know there is truly one party. And most of us on this board ain't in it.

I agree.

We like to forget that:

--Clinton is responsible for the end of welfare as we once knew it, as well as sending even MORE African American and Latino people to prison;

--Obama VOTED FOR THE PATRIOT ACT while still a senator AND asked REPUBLICANS who was "acceptable" as a supreme court nominee, whom they refused to seat ANYWAY;

--Pelosi refused to consider health care for all and promoted the ACA, which is simply a blowjob to the insurance industry;

-- Biden will NOT cancel student debt, but, along with Obama, was instrumental in using OUR TAX DOLLARS to bail out the same corporations that are currently funding the nazis taking over our government. He was also instrumental in putting that asshole Clarence Thomas on the scotus, and opposed school desegregration.

What democrats have done is play the "good cop" in a good cop-bad cop scenario.

In essence, democrats are the cop that stands by and says "take it easy, partner", while the other cop beats the shit out of you with a flashlight.

 

[notreally]

That's not what I have seen. They always report how the hurricanes, flooding and fires are going to be more frequent due to climate change and what we need to do to address this. They report on how we compare against other countries. I think it was Richard Engle who also had a special about that. When Trump rolled back he flood building codes in Texas that were put in place for new construction, that was heavily covered. Climate deniers, all that gets reported.

That is not connecting the activities of of international corporations with global warming. We all know mile wide tornados are not the norm. They don't report that they are a direct effect of international corporations run amok. Two different things.

A better illustration of my point: if you listen to NPR, they typically host discussion panels made up in part of representatives from the Heritage Foundation. They fail to mention the hideous activities and agendas of the Heritage Foundation, however.

It is like having a discussion of good vs. evil, with Satan and Darth Vader sitting in on the discussion, with nary a mention of the character of either individual.

This is the point I was trying to make, albeit rather clumsily, I will admit.

 

[notreally]

Question:

How do you make the "thumbs up" to "like" a post?

 

[Cybts1]

Realize most DEMS don't mess with POLLS. We chose who we wanted and WE good. Have you ever been polled? Who are they asking about this?

 

[Quek9]

So what was Pences' rating after year one? Did I miss that report?

That coon abandoned ship after I pointed out his hypocrisy. He will return again with more bullshit Trump talking points he memorized from Faux, Drudge, or Brightbart

 

[Tito_Jackson]

I had a conversation with my uncle who lives in Montgomery and was an active participant in the Civil Rights movement. He like many of you believe that criticism of "black" people, particularly a democratic politicians is a no no.

We have to be able to hold anyone representing us accountable. Regardless of race. Kamala was never the choice of black folk. She started off on a bad note. From all of the stupid comments, her record as an AG, her epic beat down by tulsi, her over the top pandering, her refusal to handle the border crisis, her silence when Haitians were being whipped, her stupid space video, her idiot response regarding Afghanistan, the list goes on.

I hate to see her go down like this. But, the reality is, most of you can not point to anything positive that she has done or been a part of since her election. Funny thing is, she has done a few, particularly, her main duty to which many of you are asking...."what's her duty."

She's the president of the senate. She has casted 11 tie breaking votes since her election, including one for the Civil Rights secretary. But, these small victories are not being used in her favor.

So, again I say, it's the dems fault for the low ratings. And her pr team sucks.

 

[yureeka9]

Sounds reasonable, and it has worked for me as well. However, things are changing in such a way that this will likely not be possible, should republicans take power again. I disagree, however with the point about avoiding the worst ideological elements of society. Then again, what I consider the worst might differ significantly from your perspective. For instance, there are 6 Catholics on the scotus. There decisions affect your life and mine, some more than others. If some of us are oppressed, are the rest really free? I think not.

I mention this because one of worst elements is religion, and the privileged place we give it in society. The Catholic church has sponsored and financed slavery, genocide, the oppression of women, and pedophile priests literally for centuries... and 6 members of this cult sit on the supreme court. One currently sits in the white house. How can I avoid this pernicious element white supremacy, which is in essence what it represents? The bible has historically been used to designate non-white peoples as less than human, thus "justifying" their genocide, enslavement and oppression.

Frankly, I would love to take your position. I fear, however, that history provides a guide to what is coming. What is coming is not what we have experience in the past 50 years. I have a friend who is almost 70. His mother is white, is father was black. He recalls having to sit in separate areas for lunch while shopping with his mom. This is something you and I have likely never experienced.

This is what republicans are trying to bring back. I, for one, would rather bust up a "colored" water fountain with a sledge hammer rather than drink from it. Although I am not a woman, I am appalled by the legislation curtailing the rights of women in Texas.

If some of us are not fully free, none of us are.

Come on brother. Have a little optimism. Freedom and social justice are like a genie in a bottle. Once its out its almost impossible to get it back in. Do you really think 40,000,000 black people are going to let 6 crusty peckerwoods turn back the hands of progression and send us to the back of the bus? That ship has sailed. Recent history has shown that we'll fight in the streets before we give up and inch. The Catholic church is becoming an anachronism with each generation. Hell, they even have a liberal Pope now. Somehow I'm just not worried about the supreme court and their pronouncements. If anything comes down that starts to sound too Draconian black people will just say "fuck you, I'll take revolution instead". No one wants burning cities and people fighting cops in the streets. Right now its just killing unarmed black people and the closeted racism that's always been there. But let it turn into separate facilities and colored sections again. We'll burn this muthafucka down before that happens again. I don't know a single black person regardless of age, gender, socio-economic status, education or even political leanings that would allow that to happen. You should have more faith in our collective resolve. There won't be any "good ol' days" again in this country. We'll destroy it first.

 

[ballscout1]

The scrutiny is legitimate. The media just won't say the real reason. It's the same reason the news is reporting on everything Pete Buttigieg is saying from racist construction to labor shortages. He's the Transportation secretary and he's getting more ink than the Defense secretary. It's all because he's likely on a short list to run in 2024 with Harris. They're both being heavily scrutinized because the dems don't have a deep bench for the next big election.

There is nothing to scrutinize the VP for since the VP is little more than a figurehead. It would be like scrutinizing the Queen of England.

 

[ballscout1]

I had a conversation with my uncle who lives in Montgomery and was an active participant in the Civil Rights movement. He like many of you believe that criticism of "black" people, particularly a democratic politicians is a no no.

We have to be able to hold anyone representing us accountable. Regardless of race. Kamala was never the choice of black folk. She started off on a bad note. From all of the stupid comments, her record as an AG, her epic beat down by tulsi, her over the top pandering, her refusal to handle the border crisis, her silence when Haitians were being whipped, her stupid space video, her idiot response regarding Afghanistan, the list goes on.

I hate to see her go down like this. But, the reality is, most of you can not point to anything positive that she has done or been a part of since her election. Funny thing is, she has done a few, particularly, her main duty to which many of you are asking...."what's her duty."

She's the president of the senate. She has casted 11 tie breaking votes since her election, including one for the Civil Rights secretary. But, these small victories are not being used in her favor.

So, again I say, it's the dems fault for the low ratings. And her pr team sucks.

Accountability is fine if warranted.

Holding grudges because she was a DA and Ag is stupid and was full of misinformation......At the time the other side was against her for refusing to charge alleged cop killers with capital offenses and on this side being upset because she sent black criminals to prison Keith Ellison is the reason that the killer of George Floyd was charged and tried and convicted but he has also sent black criminals to prison.

Handle the border crisis ? The VP does not make immigration policy so the failure to handle the border crisis belongs to Biden not Harris

Her silence on Haitians being whipped ? You mean the silence of the video media regarding her statements. ?

Kamala Harris says footage of Border Patrol evokes images of slavery

Vice President Kamala Harris sharply criticized Border Patrol agents for how they confronted Haitian migrants in Texas.

www.latimes.com

Kamala Harris says no humans deserve what Border Patrol did to Haitians at border

Border Patrol agents were recording whipping Haitian migrants

www.independent.co.uk

As I said what she says on policy doesn't come from her PR team or even her, it comes from the administration and she is obligated to support them even if she disagrees.

You notice that only after Obama was out of office and Biden was running did he start saying that he disagreed with Obama many times..

Even her 11 tie breaks were votes supporting Bidens position....VPs unlike congressment and senators are obligated to vote in accordance with the administration.

So the criticisms and fake approval rating matrixes are simply because she is a black woman who by virtue of being VP is next up to bat.

The narratives are bullshit and being fed to a stupid electorate that believes anything they hear and research nothing.

 

[yureeka9]

There is nothing to scrutinize the VP for since the VP is little more than a figurehead. It would be like scrutinizing the Queen of England.

So you DON'T believe all of this extra attention is because of the likelihood that she'll be in the oval office by default.

 

[code_pirahna]

Oh you mean they dislike the black woman?

Oh I m not sure why?

FOH

 

[Tito_Jackson]

Handle the border crisis ? The VP does not make immigration policy so the failure to handle the border crisis belongs to Biden not Harris

My brother, she was given the responsibility directly by the president. And she accepted it. She is literally in charge of fixing the problem. She's only been there once and she went to El paso.

This is a fact.

 

[ballscout1]

My brother, she was given the responsibility directly by the president. And she accepted it. She is literally in charge of fixing the problem. She's only been there once and she went to El paso.

This is a fact.

If you really think she had the autonomy to go there and implement anything of her own, that explains why she has a negative approval rating.

 

[ballscout1]

So you DON'T believe all of this extra attention is because of the likelihood that she'll be in the oval office by default.

I think it is so there is no viable candidate to run against Trump 2024.

As VP she would have an advantage as the Dem candidate since most don't think Biden will run for re-election

I think that is the reason for the recall in LA

I think that is the reason Cuomo was targetted

I don't think Biden leaves early.

It's all a plan to take out any candidate that already has national name recognition.

 

[^SpiderMan^]

I don’t get the defensiveness. I’m seeing posts on here defending Kamala against statistics. Yes Kamala is a sista but where is she supporting us as a people? Lets keep it a buck, the primary reason Biden chose Kamala was to invigorate our vote. Now both are in office and not addressing us AT ALL. They keep doing this and we keep falling for it.

The Republicans are going to win the Presidency next term due to the racism and ineptitude of the Democrats. IMO Trump would have won re-election if it hadn’t been for COVID. By 2024, our Economy will be in the toilet and Trump will have superior economic numbers. White women are not going to vote for a Black Woman so Kamala will depend on our vote to have a remote chance. But they aren’t earning it in office. I don’t see an openly Gay candidate winning either.

 

[slewdem100]

Naw, you're wrong. There are 3 paths foreword.

1. Continue as this country always has with politics leaning either to the left or to the right. That's all any of us know in our lifetimes.
2. Complete domination by one of the existing two political ideologies.
3. Revolution and the installation of a new political order.

Most likely we'll get #1. Just more of the same as we all move forward slowly as a society. Its all any of us knows. If we get # 2, that will be the de facto precursor to #3. Its just a matter of how long it will take to get there. It may take some years or decades. The reason I may come across as apathetic is because most people are frightened and don't have the stomach for #3. That's both sides. Let's say the right does rise up and attempt a real coup. Try to remember that the left has the numbers and that the corporate resources needed to wage a coup are politically neutral as long as the checks clear. This is still the most armed nation in the world and whether any one wants to admit it or not both sides lose in a coup. The world is watching and waiting for this to happen. The adults in the room know this. Once the right takes over, keeping the left in check will become a full time job that will destroy the country. The Russians and Chinese and North Koreans can't wait for this to happen. Do you really think the idiots in this country are dumb enough to hand it all over to a foreign power just because they lost some political power at the national level? I don't think its me that's uninformed brother. I think you may want to open a few books yourself.

One quick note about your point 1 Boss...this country doesn't lean to the left at any time...thats a scam they are running...the real progressives are shut out and replaced by corporate imposters who uses progressive messaging to get votes or social tolerance progressives who care more about LGBT, token representation etc type issues.... more equitable society, share the wealth type economic progressives are largely shut out of the process....look how the Dems did Bernie who would have been nothing extraordinary In the 80s version of the Democratic party but is damn near a unicorn today...and I am not saying Bernie is some super leftist either...real leftists get no play in the process

 

[^SpiderMan^]

I think it is so there is no viable candidate to run against Trump 2024.

As VP she would have an advantage as the Dem candidate since most don't think Biden will run for re-election

I think that is the reason for the recall in LA

I think that is the reason Cuomo was targetted

I don't think Biden leaves early.

It's all a plan to take out any candidate that already has national name recognition.

Good points. Gavin was really trying to position himself for the Presidency when Covid first hit. Coumo was a front runner too. Both are out of the mix and I can’t think of any other Candidates other than Bernie, Biden, Booty(n/h), and Harris. Which leads to another question, why hasn’t the Democratic Party groomed anyone yet?

 

[Tito_Jackson]

If you really think she had the autonomy to go there and implement anything of her own, that explains why she has a negative approval rating.

So, you are going to make assumptions about what she can or cannot do? Also, are going to pretend that immigration wasn't one of the democrats biggest campaign promises?

• The Stimulus Bill
• Immigration/ Border Crisis
• Covid
• LGBT issues
• Trump is the devil

That was the Democratic platform.

So, let examine e both scenarios.

First scenario, if she doesn't have "the autonomy to go there and implement anything of her own" then this was horrible optics and the dumbest announcement/ appointment akin to Carson and DeVos. He set her up to look incompetent. Dems fault.

Second scenario, if she does have "the autonomy to go there and implement anything of her own" she has done absolutely zero. Not one thing has changed since Trump left. The kids in cages went away towards Trumps last months, but the immigrant number has reached record numbers. She set herself up to look incompetent. Dems fault.

Furthermore, you can't just diamiss past performance. That's not how it works. A person's character will be scrutinized not just from their time in the newly elected office, but their entire political career.

Lastly, Kamala has not convinced anyone that she could take over for Biden. That's the biggest issue. At least with Pence, if Trump was booted out, people felt somewhat confident that Pence could do the job. The same for Biden when he was VP for Obama. Kamala does not have this same sentiment.

Yall can't make people like her.

Besides, I'm still salty she said she won't do anything specifically for black people. She can never live that down.

Just watch this clip. This is how she has been the whole time, before an after the election. She's all over the place.

 

[yureeka9]

I think it is so there is no viable candidate to run against Trump 2024.

As VP she would have an advantage as the Dem candidate since most don't think Biden will run for re-election

I think that is the reason for the recall in LA

I think that is the reason Cuomo was targetted

I don't think Biden leaves early.

It's all a plan to take out any candidate that already has national name recognition.

Well can't say you're wrong. Both explanations are reasonable. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[ballscout1]

Good points. Gavin was really trying to position himself for the Presidency when Covid first hit. Coumo was a front runner too. Both are out of the mix and I can’t think of any other Candidates other than Bernie, Biden, Booty(n/h), and Harris. Which leads to another question, why hasn’t the Democratic Party groomed anyone yet?

Because the establishment democrats are in it for the money and power not for the people.

This is also why the DNC doesn't support up-and-coming politicians unless they swear allegiance to the establishment.

When it comes to the democrats, progressives need not apply.

And progressives is just the new boogeyman word when in fact that was the democrat's identity before Reagan kicked their ass and they started moving center right

 

[yureeka9]

One quick note about your point 1 Boss...this country doesn't lean to the left at any time...thats a scam they are running...the real progressives are shut out and replaced by corporate imposters who uses progressive messaging to get votes or social tolerance progressives who care more about LGBT, token representation etc type issues.... more equitable society, share the wealth type economic progressives are largely shut out of the process....look how the Dems did Bernie who would have been nothing extraordinary In the 80s version of the Democratic party but is damn near a unicorn today...and I am not saying Bernie is some super leftist either...real leftists get no play in the process

When I say lean to the left, I'm talking about all the initiatives that democrats push to the front when they're in office. It may not seem like much in the grand scheme but giving punks the right to marry is huge. Choking out the coal industry is huge. Women's rights. Ultimately the political leanings of this country are going to be a mixed bag and that's why it hasn't run off the rails yet.

 

[ballscout1]

So, you are going to make assumptions about what she can or cannot do? Also, are going to pretend that immigration wasn't one of the democrats biggest campaign promises?

• The Stimulus Bill
• Immigration/ Border Crisis
• Covid
• LGBT issues
• Trump is the devil

That was the Democratic platform.

So, let examine e both scenarios.

First scenario, if she doesn't have "the autonomy to go there and implement anything of her own" then this was horrible optics and the dumbest announcement/ appointment akin to Carson and DeVos. He set her up to look incompetent. Dems fault.

Second scenario, if she does have "the autonomy to go there and implement anything of her own" she has done absolutely zero. Not one thing has changed since Trump left. The kids in cages went away towards Trumps last months, but the immigrant number has reached record numbers. She set herself up to look incompetent. Dems fault.

Furthermore, you can't just diamiss past performance. That's not how it works. A person's character will be scrutinized not just from their time in the newly elected office, but their entire political career.

Lastly, Kamala has not convinced anyone that she could take over for Biden. That's the biggest issue. At least with Pence, if Trump was booted out, people felt somewhat confident that Pence could do the job. The same for Biden when he was VP for Obama. Kamala does not have this same sentiment.

Yall can't make people like her.

Besides, I'm still salty she said she won't do anything specifically for black people. She can never live that down.

Just watch this clip. This is how she has been the whole time, before an after the election. She's all over the place.

What promises has Biden kept ?

Biden tried to move towards the progressive platforms of Sanders and Warren for votes and once elected he hasn't delivered on anything


Voter protectionss and reform

Police and Justice reforms

etc etc ect


People are convinced because those who set the narratives are effetive.

Look how many fell for the narrative to support Biden in the first place and ignored his whole career except that he was down with Obama.

And as long as the electorate is stupid what goes on will continue




Was Biden's past performance scrutinized? Did you thank him for VClarence Thomas

Harris was a DA and an AG....obviously effective because she was elected.

Eri Adams was just elected mayor of NYC after being career police.....If he runs for a national office you will see a narrative of what he did to black people and a whole bunch of fake woke fight the power non voting black people spreading that narrative.

 

[Tito_Jackson]

What promises has Biden kept ?

Biden tried to move towards the progressive platforms of Sanders and Warren for votes and once elected he hasn't delivered on anything


Voter protectionss and reform

Police and Justice reforms

etc etc ect


People are convinced because those who set the narratives are effetive.

Look how many fell for the narrative to support Biden in the first place and ignored his whole career except that he was down with Obama.

And as long as the electorate is stupid what goes on will continue




Was Biden's past performance scrutinized? Did you thank him for VClarence Thomas

Harris was a DA and an AG....obviously effective because she was elected.

Eri Adams was just elected mayor of NYC after being career police.....If he runs for a national office you will see a narrative of what he did to black people and a whole bunch of fake woke fight the power non voting black people spreading that narrative.

What promises??? He promised to make LGBT issues his priority..........he damn sure kept that promise.

His ratings are also in the tank. His advantage? He was Obama's token. He's still doing bad.
Biden approval rating drops to new low of 38 percent: poll

Gloomy landscape for Democrats in midterms as Biden's approval drops to 38% in USA TODAY/Suffolk poll

A USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll shows Biden's support cratered among the independent voters who delivered his win over Donald Trump a year ago.

www.usatoday.com

 

[yureeka9]

So, you are going to make assumptions about what she can or cannot do? Also, are going to pretend that immigration wasn't one of the democrats biggest campaign promises?

• The Stimulus Bill
• Immigration/ Border Crisis
• Covid
• LGBT issues
• Trump is the devil

That was the Democratic platform.

So, let examine e both scenarios.

First scenario, if she doesn't have "the autonomy to go there and implement anything of her own" then this was horrible optics and the dumbest announcement/ appointment akin to Carson and DeVos. He set her up to look incompetent. Dems fault.

Second scenario, if she does have "the autonomy to go there and implement anything of her own" she has done absolutely zero. Not one thing has changed since Trump left. The kids in cages went away towards Trumps last months, but the immigrant number has reached record numbers. She set herself up to look incompetent. Dems fault.

Furthermore, you can't just diamiss past performance. That's not how it works. A person's character will be scrutinized not just from their time in the newly elected office, but their entire political career.

Lastly, Kamala has not convinced anyone that she could take over for Biden. That's the biggest issue. At least with Pence, if Trump was booted out, people felt somewhat confident that Pence could do the job. The same for Biden when he was VP for Obama. Kamala does not have this same sentiment.

Yall can't make people like her.

Besides, I'm still salty she said she won't do anything specifically for black people. She can never live that down.

Just watch this clip. This is how she has been the whole time, before an after the election. She's all over the place.

Bitch is trash and paper thin. Everyone has seen her hollow pandering and she has said in no uncertain terms that black people are not a priority. That alone puts her in the "Fuck You File".

 

[yureeka9]

What promises has Biden kept ?

Biden tried to move towards the progressive platforms of Sanders and Warren for votes and once elected he hasn't delivered on anything


Voter protectionss and reform

Police and Justice reforms

etc etc ect


People are convinced because those who set the narratives are effetive.

Look how many fell for the narrative to support Biden in the first place and ignored his whole career except that he was down with Obama.

And as long as the electorate is stupid what goes on will continue




Was Biden's past performance scrutinized? Did you thank him for VClarence Thomas

Harris was a DA and an AG....obviously effective because she was elected.

Eri Adams was just elected mayor of NYC after being career police.....If he runs for a national office you will see a narrative of what he did to black people and a whole bunch of fake woke fight the power non voting black people spreading that narrative.

That bastard is trash as well....

 

[Joe Money]

Damn, this turned out to be a great thread! Props to all the informed posts.

 

[Joe Money]

Question:

How do you make the "thumbs up" to "like" a post?

The "Like" is in the lower-right part of the post where the "+Quote" and "Reply" buttons are. But perhaps you need to be a "BGOL Investor" or "Platinum Member" to see it?

 

[Joe Money]

You are the defensive player of the year when in comes to the democrats. Never seen you critical of them. It's commendable if it wasn't so ignorant of reality

Oh shit! Time to start another thread!

 

[ballscout1]

Bitch is trash and paper thin. Everyone has seen her hollow pandering and she has said in no uncertain terms that black people are not a priority. That alone puts her in the "Fuck You File".

I agree the pandering Is not a good look and desn't translate well but

I don't hold that against her as fatal simply because this is her first foray into being a "politician" .

Although the roles as AG and DA were elected positions those roles were more civil servant and based on doing your job and this Federal shit is more about likability and photo op driveby quote shit..

If she stays in it she'll learn to simply be herself....

I will bring up that once again the pandering criticism is much more pointed towards her and other non white politcians.

When Hillary went down south and then used a southern accent it was just joke material.

Or the crakkas that run to black churches is pandering but much more accepted.

Black folks just more comfortable with white politicians it seems

 

[yureeka9]

I agree the pandering Is not a good look and desn't translate well but

I don't hold that against her as fatal simply because this is her first foray into being a "politician" .

Although the roles as AG and DA were elected positions those roles were more civil servant and based on doing your job and this Federal shit is more about likability and photo op driveby quote shit..

If she stays in it she'll learn to simply be herself....

I will bring up that once again the pandering criticism is much more pointed towards her and other non white politcians.

When Hillary went down south and then used a southern accent it was just joke material.

Or the crakkas that run to black churches is pandering but much more accepted.

Black folks just more comfortable with white politicians it seems

Fair enough. But what about her saying she won't do anything just for black people? Why bother with a candidate if that candidate is not interested in your issues?

 

[DC_Dude]

Because the establishment democrats are in it for the money and power not for the people.

This is also why the DNC doesn't support up-and-coming politicians unless they swear allegiance to the establishment.

When it comes to the democrats, progressives need not apply.

And progressives is just the new boogeyman word when in fact that was the democrat's identity before Reagan kicked their ass and they started moving center right

Think that statement should be applied to both parties. Never will be about the people, but about whoever cuts the biggest checks. Corporations run this country.

There isn't a wide spread student loan forgiveness that is going to occur, but there are policies in the works that are looking at improving the whole student loan crisis. The 60 minutes piece really shed a light on how the system is flawed on so many ways esp. the PSLF program.



The Dept. of Education Secretary, Secretary Miguel Cardona, who is a former teacher himself has been working alot to fix these issues something we never had in that other chick.

 

[Dr. Truth]

Think that statement should be applied to both parties. Never will be about the people, but about whoever cuts the biggest checks. Corporations run this country.

Republikkklans definitely would forgive 715 million in student loan debt. Yup both sides

 

[DC_Dude]

Republikkklans definitely would forgive 715 million in student loan debt. Yup both sides

The interesting thing, that is just the start. It will be close to $1 billion in a few weeks.

 

[ballscout1]

Think that statement should be applied to both parties. Never will be about the people, but about whoever cuts the biggest checks. Corporations run this country.

I agree but pointed out that it is the establishment Democrats since so many try to make out there is a big distinction between them and the GOP.


Progressives' platform is about the people and quality of life improvements but they have to fight establishment democrats harder than they have to fight the GOP.

You notice how people tried to make a big deal about the "squad" not voting for Biden infrastructure bill...

But nobody said they voted against it knowing there were enough votes for it to pass. They voted against it on principle and didn't hold it up or cause it not to be passed.

And of course, it isn't talked about that Rep. Ayanna Pressley for example voted after the bill had already passed.

 

[Dr. Truth]

The interesting thing, that is just the start. It will be close to $1 billion in a few weeks.

But but but but but but JIM CROW JOE AND KAMALA ISNT BLACK!!!!!