only been to Paris, but now I want to do a road trip through southern France
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that is EXACTLY what I want to do cuz
You can take the TGV from Paris to Marseilles. It is fast and not super expensive. We did that the first time we wanted to go to Marseilles.
This restaurant is really nice and in the Gare de Lyon
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You can take the TGV from Paris to Marseilles. It is fast and not super expensive. We did that the first time we wanted to go to Marseilles.
This restaurant is really nice and in the Gare de Lyon
⇒ Le Train Bleu | Gourmet Restaurant Gare de Lyon | Paris 12
OFFICIAL WEBSITE | Le Train Bleu Gastronomic Restaurant, Gare de Lyon - With Bar, Exceptional Setting, French Gourmet Cuisine - Fresh & Seasonal Ingredients - Meetings & Conferenceswww.le-train-bleu.com
question: is that a family type vacation plan?
I lived in Belgium and France and the UK are both very close. Your statement is VERY true! Both of their foods are trash.
Yeah wife and kids liked it. Marseilles is way different from Paris.
We scouted some places in Marseilles that we wanted to try out with the kids and then came back on another trip and did those.
I love all of these when I'm in France.
did you rent a car?
Not on that trip but we did another time and drove from Paris to Orléans for a couple of days.
We did another trip like that on a minibus. Wife and I went to Épernay and toured the vineyards and champagne houses.
Honestly, taking the train places was better than driving but it was cool to be on the country roads and see "stereotypically" French shit.
These dudes in here acting like Americans just have the worst palates ever.
FOH, maybe the white boys, but not Black Americans.
I’ve been to Italy, Poland, The Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, Luxemburg, Austria, Switzerland, Romania, Czech Republic, Panama, Honduras, Jamaica, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan, United Arab Emirates, & Morocco. All of their foods were great.
The French & the Brits are just not up to par.
You have not been to france if you hold this opinion. Hole in the wall joints in france are banging, foh.
Paris is full of shitty ass French food, fuck you talking about.
I’ve been to Paris over 10 times
Not on that trip but we did another time and drove from Paris to Orléans for a couple of days.
We did another trip like that on a minibus. Wife and I went to Épernay and toured the vineyards and champagne houses.
Honestly, taking the train places was better than driving but it was cool to be on the country roads and see "stereotypically" French shit.
thanks
I keep hearing that taking the trains is a cool way to go there for the first time
and like you said if you return you already got the layout
Are the train rides as nice as they say? Is it an affordable option?
I speak a little the rest of the family is good. How important is it to speak French there?
Delicious.Fuck that.
I'll stick to my oxtail and rice.
However you can have this and more in Paris. French food just isn't what cac's cook, but french cac's can throw down.
I think what happens is that people eat in /around touristy shit (Eiffel Tower, Champs-Élysées, Louvre etc.) It would be like coming to NYC and eating Sbarro and then saying NYC pizza isn't shit.
What was shitty? I've been more than 20 times and have had some of the best meals in my lifetime.
I’m willing to bet money that all of these good meals everyone in here is caping for are the African dishes.
Who in here really likes the French dishes? The white food?
Leave the city center and spend a few weeks eating where the French people eat, cook with their ingredients and then talk to me. Go to area's where they don't speak English and let me know.I think what happens is that people eat in /around touristy shit (Eiffel Tower, Champs-Élysées, Louvre etc.) It would be like coming to NYC and eating Sbarro and then saying NYC pizza isn't shit.
The fucking basic ham sandwich out in the country >>> anything in America with our overly processed bullshit.
I do. Shit is banging.
Snails done right are banging. Duck is off the hook, steak, veal goose liver all that.
That is what I am trying to figure out.
I have had some of the best meals ever in France.Trains are way better than here and not crazy expensive. This is a good guide: https://www.seat61.com/trains-and-routes/tgv.htm
As long as I said something in French to start, bonjour, bonsoir etc. most people would just laugh and speak to us in English. People would want to practice their English or help us with our French.
I think that the idea that the French are rude comes from Americans showing up and just speaking in English/not obeying the social norms there.
You're reaching. The states isn't just made up of franchise restaurants. There are plenty of local restaurants that serve fresh ingredients from local farms, etc... So how can you say everything in the states (all 50) "is so high fructose corn syruped, salt laden, and so drenched in sugar". You're just as wrong as the guy saying the food in France is nasty.
That is what I am trying to figure out.
Trains are way better than here and not crazy expensive. This is a good guide: https://www.seat61.com/trains-and-routes/tgv.htm
As long as I said something in French to start, bonjour, bonsoir etc. most people would just laugh and speak to us in English. People would want to practice their English or help us with our French.
I think that the idea that the French are rude comes from Americans showing up and just speaking in English/not obeying the social norms there.
appreciate the help you dropping some VALUABLE info here
one last thing...
when is the best time of year to visit?
I like the Algerian, Moroccan spots but for "traditional" French I really like steak au poivre, ratatouille, coq au vin all that shit.
There is a poster on here that dropped some nice recommendations for West African spots.there are a lot of excellent African restaurants in Paris, this is my favorite :
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I like the Spring or Fall/Winter. Summertime is crazy with tourist and all the Parisians leave in August for vacation. Some of the restaurants etc. are even closed then.
@parisian I am sure you can give better advice than me.
Yes they say the best time to go is in the fall when the crowds are less.
I visited in July. There were crowds but not too bad at all and the weather was good..
The UK has American tendencies so I’m not surprised Tesco got caught doing something shifty for profit. I keep my ass outta that place when I’m over there too. But even on the UK’s worst day, I’d still take that quality of food over ours here.I like to cook and grill and you learn so much about this shit in the process of getting good meat etc. They let them get away with so much misleading shit. For example, grass fed beef only means that it had some grass at some point but it also had feed/grains etc. Grass finished, however, means that the cow fed exclusively on grass. Grass finished is grass fed technically but grass fed doesn't mean grass finished.
UK situation with the chlorine washed chicken is hilarious because UK hasn't always had the best reputation either . It was a few years back but Tesco was selling horse meat labeled as beef.I was thankful that my wife makes us go to Waitrose when we are over there after I learned about that shit.
We STAY flipping the script like this here.
Here’s some organic “free range chicken” as the industry says you can market it as. They definitely keeping clean and roaming the pastures here.
Whole Foods got caught selling that mislabeled noise too.
Whole Foods "Free-Range" Chicken Supplier Said To Actually Run Factory Farm
Despite Whole Foods and its supplier's promises, animal welfare activists found no evidence that "free-range" chickens were even allowed outdoors.
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Wait... so you're saying that in the 50 stats across this vast country there are only chain restaurants and no restaurants that serve food with fresh ingredients??sure. Whatever you say.
There are even chains that serve food from local farms, etc...
The UK has American tendencies so I’m not surprised Tesco got caught doing something shifty for profit. I keep my ass outta that place when I’m over there too. But even on the UK’s worst day, I’d still take that quality of food over ours here.
We STAY flipping the script like this here.
Here’s some organic “free range chicken” as the industry says you can market it as. They definitely keeping clean and roaming the pastures here.
Whole Foods got caught selling that mislabeled noise too.
Whole Foods "Free-Range" Chicken Supplier Said To Actually Run Factory Farm
Despite Whole Foods and its supplier's promises, animal welfare activists found no evidence that "free-range" chickens were even allowed outdoors.
Same whit with the "no antibiotics" label when it is illegal to sell chicken that has been slaughtered before the antibiotic has had time to pass through the animal. The "no hormones" label is equally as stupid as you cant use them in poultry or pigs.
This is the reason I only buy the air chilled chicken. No way in hell would any producer risk only air chilling some of the garbage chicken that is out there.
Cmon on fam.. you can’t be that dense. It’s not LITERALLY ALL 50 states. We’re talking averages here. Overall summations of American food vs that of other countries.
The quality of food accessible to the AVERAGE American, from the countless amounts of AVERAGE chain and non-chain restaurants across this country is sub par because of the quality of food available.
For every Mr Chows, there’s 14 Panera Breads. For every Le Bernardin, there’s 22 carryouts.. for every Mom’s Organic Market, there’s endless Safeway’s or Publix or wherever your chose to grocer. It’s not even a competition as to what food is available where and in what abundance.
Obviously fresh food exists here, I never said or inferred that it didn’t, but I did infer is that it’s nowhere near as available and widely accessible to our population than it is elsewhere.
I know that Panera Bread serves some grass-finished beef and Chipotle had a big battle with US beef suppliers a while back because they switched to grass fed from Australia.
It will be interesting to see if producers can supply the grass fed or finished beef at the scale needed as people start to consume more of it.
Obviously you're that dense, since you're the one who made the asinine claim. Then replied to my post with "sure, whatever you say".
"Everything in the states is so high fructose corn syruped, salt laden, and so drenched in sugar, that when quality produce hits us, we don’t know how to react so we call it “bad.”
I prefer the fall and wintertime. In late September/Early October it's still pretty warm and the countryside is fucking beautiful with the tree's changing color. Great to take a wife/girlfriend. I grew up in LA, so being in Paris for Christmas and it snows was a blast.
Took my family there about 4 years ago and we had rabbit for Christmas dinner. They loved all the tourist shit, but we stayed in the 19th in an apartment so we had time being around regular people.
If you go in the summer it's going to be fucking crowded and you better make reservations now for any museums and shit.
This is def the move. Paris is dope for the tourist flow, but it gets old really quick. All points around it though.. completely different ball game. From the cheese making in Normandy, to the Champagne from Chalons de Champagne..You can take the TGV from Paris to Marseilles. It is fast and not super expensive. We did that the first time we wanted to go to Marseilles.
This restaurant is really nice and in the Gare de Lyon
⇒ Le Train Bleu | Gourmet Restaurant Gare de Lyon | Paris 12
OFFICIAL WEBSITE | Le Train Bleu Gastronomic Restaurant, Gare de Lyon - With Bar, Exceptional Setting, French Gourmet Cuisine - Fresh & Seasonal Ingredients - Meetings & Conferences
I experienced one of the greatest poached egg dishes in Burgundy I’ve ever come across. Might be a stretch to say, but for my money, the countryside of France has Paris beat.
Yo you guys are incredible thank you
But an apartment is better more affordable than a hotel?
Umm what is the 19th?
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