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House passes gun legislation that would expand background checks

Washington (CNN)The House passed gun legislation that would expand background checks on all commercial gun sales, marking the first congressional move on significant gun control since Democrats won the White House and the majority in both chambers of Congress.

The House passed the legislation in two separate votes.

The first vote on H.R. 8, the Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2021, passed 227-203 and would expand background checks for all firearm sales or transfers in the country. Currently, background checks are not required for gun sales and transfers by unlicensed and private sellers.

And eight Republicans supported the legislation and one Democrat voting against it.

The eight Republicans were Vern Buchanan of Florida, Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, Maria Salazar of Florida, Andrew Garbarino of New York, Chris Smith of New Jersey, Fred Upton of Michigan, Carlos Gimenez of Florida and Adam Kinzinger of Illinois.

And the lone Democrat was Rep. Jared Golden, who also voted against the Covid-19 package.

Two Republicans voted for it in 2019 but did not support it this time around — Reps. Brian Mast and Mario Diaz-Balart.

Separate legislation, H.R. 1446, introduced by Democratic Rep. Jim Clyburn of South Carolina and called the Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2021, passed 218-210 would close what's known as the "Charleston Loophole," which allows some licensed gun sales to go through before a required background check is done. Using that loophole, Dylann Roof was able to legally purchase a firearm to kill nine people at a historically Black church in Charleston, South Carolina, in 2015.

Two Democrats opposed the legislation — Reps. Ron Kind of Wisconsin and Golden.

And the Republicans who voted for this legislation were Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania and Chris Smith of New Jersey.

"These people who were practicing their faith, their faith that taught them to welcome in a stranger, a stranger came to their door and they welcomed into their Bible study, he sat with them for an hour," Clyburn said on the House floor Wednesday. "The stranger that they had welcomed in had opened fire and killed nine of them, one of who was the pastor, a former intern of mine."

"This law would have prevented that gentleman from getting a gun," Clyburn added.

The bills are expected to pass the House but will face a steep uphill climb in the Senate as Democrats hold a slim 50-50 majority and would need significant Republican support to overcome a legislative filibuster. Still, the legislation remains a priority for the Biden administration.

But Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer committed to putting the Bipartisan Background Checks Act on the Senate floor for a vote and suggested having discussions after on how to work with Republicans.

"We'll have the good sense to have had this bill twice and in the past when they send it over to us last time, it went into Mitch McConnell's legislative graveyard. The legislative graveyard is over. H.R. 8 will be on the floor of the Senate and we will see where everybody stands," Schumer said. "No more thoughts and prayers. A vote is what we need. A vote."

When asked what will need to happen for Senate Democrats to get to 60 votes on the legislation, Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut said there have been "ongoing conversations" to get Republicans to sign on.

"There have been ongoing conversations off and on all the way through. And, you know, I think Sen. Schumer was clear that the initial vote would be on H.R. 8, and then we would talk about what might be advisable and necessary to pass it," he told reporters.

And Sen. Chris Murphy, also a Connecticut Democrat, expressed hope some sort of gun control legislation could pass in the Senate.

"I just think we're living in such a different world than 2013. So much has changed. The politics around us are fundamentally different....I just think that you can't compare 2013 to 2021. I think there are a lot of Republican senators that are thinking about voting for a proposal allows them to get right on this issue," Murphy said, who represents Connecticut where the Sandy Hook shooting took place.

He added: "And we will see where people stand. And maybe we'll get the votes and if we don't we'll come together and figure out how we're going to get this done because we have to get it done."

The White House has also said gun control legislation is a "priority" for President Joe Biden.

"I will say that the President is somebody, throughout his career, who has advocated for smart gun -- smart gun safety measures," press secretary Jen Psaki said during a White House briefing last month, adding that the President is "not afraid of standing up to the NRA -- he's done it multiple times and won -- on background checks and a range of issues. And it is a priority to him on a personal level."

Brian Lemek -- the executive director of Brady PAC, the sister organization of gun violence prevention group the Brady Campaign -- praised the House members who supported the legislation.

"Members of the House of Representatives made it clear today, with bipartisan support, where they stand on preventing a countless number of deaths from happening again in the future. Between now and 2022, Brady PAC will make sure every voter knows and doesn't forget who did and did not vote for this lifesaving piece of legislation that 90% of Americans support," he said.

Time to stock up on mags :smh:
 
What's wrong with the bill?

If you already live in states that have capacity restrictions for no more than 10 per magazine then the hit won't be so bad. For me the key to bills like these are the aspects of keeping a database that would be public to everyone of what you have, banning what they define to be assault weapons when basically any semi-auto gun would meet that definition, and most importantly isn't preventing criminals from acquiring firearms much less solving the true problem of how they're acquiring them in the first place.

IMO, these bills are hurting the people who are already following the legal process as opposed to preventing the wrong people from doing what they do. There's already background checks in place that work. The problem is federal, state and county don't communicate properly or consistently enough to make it truly effective.

Who is mad at this besides white boys?
Not true. Any gun owner who has multiple firearms and doesn't live in a state with heavy restrictions is upset by this potential bill being passed. If you're a new potential gun buyer, then this will affect what you're allowed to purchase and how long it takes to acquire it. Take a look at the process for how to acquire a pistol in NY as evidence to how frustrating it can be while at the same time collecting money from you multiple times throughout the process. As strict as the gun laws are there, the problems of gun violence haven't been solved one bit.
 
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I don t see the Senate passing this.
I doubt it will either but I can foresee prices on magazines and guns jumping up outta fear and being taken advantage of by vendors similar to what happened as a result of COVID and the election. As such, I'd rather get my magazines now than wait til the bills gain any traction and vendors start acting the fool.
 
Background checks don't affect me. I'm good.
What about no longer being able to purchase guns or magazines that hold more than 10 rounds? No longer being allowed to purchase AR15 or similar rifles? Having all your firearms added into a govt ran database that could potentially be made available to the public? All those are things these bills would push for
 
What about no longer being able to purchase guns or magazines that hold more than 10 rounds? No longer being allowed to purchase AR15 or similar rifles? Having all your firearms added into a govt ran database that could potentially be made available to the public? All those are things these bills would push for
sounds like a California problem. i doubt if measures like that will ever pass in Congress.
 
sounds like a California problem. i doubt if measures like that will ever pass in Congress.

I love Cali like I love cooked food but man their high capacity magazine bullshit is for the birds. They tell you that you can’t carry certain magazines and I’m like ok :hmm: I can’t carry a 13+ Mag but I can carry two 10s? With one in the chamber. Guess I better compensate for them 3 rounds with a rapid reload huh? Ignorant shit:angry:
 
Yeah who cares. People dont need all them guns magazines and rounds anyways. Only people that care are white boys that think the governments is going to take over, gun collectors that think those shits are toys, or weirdo conspiracy theorist that swear they need to have all that for the zombie apocalypse. I have one hand gun with like 150 rounds. And I'm gonna get a AR if they still allow it. Other than that, what the hell else do you need unless you just collecting guns as a hobby?
 
House passes gun legislation that would expand background checks

Washington (CNN)The House passed gun legislation that would expand background checks on all commercial gun sales, marking the first congressional move on significant gun control since Democrats won the White House and the majority in both chambers of Congress.

The House passed the legislation in two separate votes.

The first vote on H.R. 8, the Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2021, passed 227-203 and would expand background checks for all firearm sales or transfers in the country. Currently, background checks are not required for gun sales and transfers by unlicensed and private sellers.

And eight Republicans supported the legislation and one Democrat voting against it.

The eight Republicans were Vern Buchanan of Florida, Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, Maria Salazar of Florida, Andrew Garbarino of New York, Chris Smith of New Jersey, Fred Upton of Michigan, Carlos Gimenez of Florida and Adam Kinzinger of Illinois.

And the lone Democrat was Rep. Jared Golden, who also voted against the Covid-19 package.

Two Republicans voted for it in 2019 but did not support it this time around — Reps. Brian Mast and Mario Diaz-Balart.

Separate legislation, H.R. 1446, introduced by Democratic Rep. Jim Clyburn of South Carolina and called the Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2021, passed 218-210 would close what's known as the "Charleston Loophole," which allows some licensed gun sales to go through before a required background check is done. Using that loophole, Dylann Roof was able to legally purchase a firearm to kill nine people at a historically Black church in Charleston, South Carolina, in 2015.

Two Democrats opposed the legislation — Reps. Ron Kind of Wisconsin and Golden.

And the Republicans who voted for this legislation were Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania and Chris Smith of New Jersey.

"These people who were practicing their faith, their faith that taught them to welcome in a stranger, a stranger came to their door and they welcomed into their Bible study, he sat with them for an hour," Clyburn said on the House floor Wednesday. "The stranger that they had welcomed in had opened fire and killed nine of them, one of who was the pastor, a former intern of mine."

"This law would have prevented that gentleman from getting a gun," Clyburn added.

The bills are expected to pass the House but will face a steep uphill climb in the Senate as Democrats hold a slim 50-50 majority and would need significant Republican support to overcome a legislative filibuster. Still, the legislation remains a priority for the Biden administration.

But Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer committed to putting the Bipartisan Background Checks Act on the Senate floor for a vote and suggested having discussions after on how to work with Republicans.

"We'll have the good sense to have had this bill twice and in the past when they send it over to us last time, it went into Mitch McConnell's legislative graveyard. The legislative graveyard is over. H.R. 8 will be on the floor of the Senate and we will see where everybody stands," Schumer said. "No more thoughts and prayers. A vote is what we need. A vote."

When asked what will need to happen for Senate Democrats to get to 60 votes on the legislation, Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut said there have been "ongoing conversations" to get Republicans to sign on.

"There have been ongoing conversations off and on all the way through. And, you know, I think Sen. Schumer was clear that the initial vote would be on H.R. 8, and then we would talk about what might be advisable and necessary to pass it," he told reporters.

And Sen. Chris Murphy, also a Connecticut Democrat, expressed hope some sort of gun control legislation could pass in the Senate.

"I just think we're living in such a different world than 2013. So much has changed. The politics around us are fundamentally different....I just think that you can't compare 2013 to 2021. I think there are a lot of Republican senators that are thinking about voting for a proposal allows them to get right on this issue," Murphy said, who represents Connecticut where the Sandy Hook shooting took place.

He added: "And we will see where people stand. And maybe we'll get the votes and if we don't we'll come together and figure out how we're going to get this done because we have to get it done."

The White House has also said gun control legislation is a "priority" for President Joe Biden.

"I will say that the President is somebody, throughout his career, who has advocated for smart gun -- smart gun safety measures," press secretary Jen Psaki said during a White House briefing last month, adding that the President is "not afraid of standing up to the NRA -- he's done it multiple times and won -- on background checks and a range of issues. And it is a priority to him on a personal level."

Brian Lemek -- the executive director of Brady PAC, the sister organization of gun violence prevention group the Brady Campaign -- praised the House members who supported the legislation.

"Members of the House of Representatives made it clear today, with bipartisan support, where they stand on preventing a countless number of deaths from happening again in the future. Between now and 2022, Brady PAC will make sure every voter knows and doesn't forget who did and did not vote for this lifesaving piece of legislation that 90% of Americans support," he said.

Time to stock up on mags :smh:

Go here for your states laws and rankings. This Bill if it passes won’t really affect me. It is great awareness for new gun owners or people like my buddies who own fucking armories with all kinds of calibers. Thing is, if you want a burner it ain’t hard to get. Anything short or a heavy machine gun so I don’t even know why they doing this.


scroll to bottom to see how easy your state is and rank. Notice anything funny?


 
Yeah who cares. People dont need all them guns magazines and rounds anyways. Only people that care are white boys that think the governments is going to take over, gun collectors that think those shits are toys, or weirdo conspiracy theorist that swear they need to have all that for the zombie apocalypse. I have one hand gun with like 150 rounds. And I'm gonna get a AR if they still allow it. Other than that, what the hell else do you need unless you just collecting guns as a hobby?

Lmaooooo Guns and butter. Along with ammo. Can never have too much or too many!


 
The white boys are mad at background checks because most of them won't pass them. They are also against a database because it would track their non-FFL-approved gun sales.

They want to be able to stockpile and sell to whomever they want without a license to sell.
 
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What about no longer being able to purchase guns or magazines that hold more than 10 rounds? No longer being allowed to purchase AR15 or similar rifles? Having all your firearms added into a govt ran database that could potentially be made available to the public? All those are things these bills would push for

Fine with all that.
 
Do you own multiple firearms and/or live in a state that doesn't have magazine capacity restrictions?
I live in Alabama. I literally went to the gun store and bought an AR -15 100 rounds, Extra 30 round mag, and carrying case. I was in and out of the store in 30 mins on my lunch break. I have 2 40. cals, a .380. Trying to get an AR-12 but they sold out everywhere or people price gouging. March 2020 AR-12 was 500 now they want 1200-1500. FOH
 
I live in Alabama. I literally went to the gun store and bought an AR -15 100 rounds, Extra 30 round mag, and carrying case. I was in and out of the store in 30 mins on my lunch break. I have 2 40. cals, a .380. Trying to get an AR-12 but they sold out everywhere or people price gouging. March 2020 AR-12 was 500 now they want 1200-1500. FOH
Yeah I'm very selective for where I go to buy firearms or ammo. I've been getting lucky with the local Cabela's. When they get shipments in they go fast since the prices are pre-toilet paper apocalypse level and allow up to 5 boxes to be purchased. I was able score twice and ended up with over 600 rounds of 9mm.
 
I’ll care when I see all Black Men who freak out over this shit stop a crooked cop or clean out the hood with this gun he seems to not be able to live without and only shoot paper, and dream of shooting another Black man.....
 
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