Coming to America 2 (discussion)

:hmm: Stop it....

They can call me what they want, I don’t want Leslie on my screen

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They went for the cheese.
Damn.
First one was a classic and fucking hilarious because they weren't trying to be funny. They were telling a story and funny shit happened along the way that was culturally relevant.

This one was trying to be funny. The story arcs and everything were clear as day and would work
Don't try and be funny and add extra shit. Don't put more attention on things. Don't check the boxes. Don't do a lot of what they did. Let things be a little surprise and have nuggets of stuff appear.
The stuff that we LOVE from the 1st weren't things they were throwing in our faces. It was the barbershop dudes because we knew them barbershop dudes
It was Randy Watson cause we knew him. It was the soul glo commercial because that shit was what it was at that point.
It was a time capsule.
This wasn't. This was pandering.

It's frustrating because with everything they did wrong it still was an enjoyable movie it just wasn't funny because they were trying to be funny.
 
They went for the cheese.
Damn.
First one was a classic and fucking hilarious because they weren't trying to be funny. They were telling a story and funny shit happened along the way that was culturally relevant.

This one was trying to be funny. The story arcs and everything were clear as day and would work
Don't try and be funny and add extra shit. Don't put more attention on things. Don't check the boxes. Don't do a lot of what they did. Let things be alittle surprise and have nuggets of stuff appear.
The stuff that we LOVE from the 1st weren't things they were throwing in our faces. It was the barbershop dudes because we knew them barbershop dudes
It was Randy Watson cause we knew him. It was the soul glo commercial because that shit was what it was at that point.
It was a time capsule.
This wasn't. This was pandering.

It's frustrating because with everything they did wrong it still was an enjoyable movie it just wasn't funny because they were trying to be funny.
nah son, the reality is today's eddie can't compete with the old eddie. EM was on a movie creative goldmine genius run at the time the first coming to america came out. He was becoming what we know and think of who eddie is t and we went to be oday. Nothing he will touch will ever be a classic or as funny as the original. Nobody wants new stuff from eddie they want to revisit the old eddie, so he gave them that.

The first coming to america was not a classic until later on video and constant cable repeat.s. no way in hell , Eddie gonna do a movie that is better than his past stuff. People expectations are way to high and unrealistic with everything. Nobody gets better after their creative peak. Nobody in the entertainment business has outdone themselves 30yrs later. Not will smith, Pacino, Dinero, chappelle, KHart, ... even richard pryor older works couldn't compete against his earlier works.

With that being said, EM delivered the goods.. the sequel was just an excuse to check up on some old friends nothing more...
 
Look, it's damn near impossible to make a successful 30 year sequel. It was what I thought it was gonna be. Had a few funny moments but overall of course no where near the original. I just enjoyed seeing an all black cast on screen. Teyanna Taylor gotta be the sexiest ugliest muthafucka ever!!! Best way to describe her but you know the pussy is phenomenal!! Those African bathers....... :jackoff: :jackoff: :jackoff: And the barber chick.....:fucking: Only part from a plot standpoint that bothered me was General Izzi out of nowhere letting go the fact Eddie's son didn't marry his daughter. Shit didn't make sense at all he wasn't mad but guess they didn't want to go there with more anger and potential violence.

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They went for the cheese.
Damn.
First one was a classic and fucking hilarious because they weren't trying to be funny. They were telling a story and funny shit happened along the way that was culturally relevant.

This one was trying to be funny. The story arcs and everything were clear as day and would work

Don't try and be funny and add extra shit. Don't put more attention on things. Don't check the boxes. Don't do a lot of what they did. Let things be a little surprise and have nuggets of stuff appear.
The stuff that we LOVE from the 1st weren't things they were throwing in our faces. It was the barbershop dudes because we knew them barbershop dudes
It was Randy Watson cause we knew him. It was the soul glo commercial because that shit was what it was at that point.
It was a time capsule.
This wasn't. This was pandering.

It's frustrating because with everything they did wrong it still was an enjoyable movie it just wasn't funny because they were trying to be funny.
this
i never looked at coming to america as a comedy. it was a romantic movie sprinkled with comedic stuff.
i mean akeem wasnt even really funny the characters around him were.
and with this they wanted to make a comedy movie.
also the pc stuff kinda took a lot away too.
 
Look, it's damn near impossible to make a successful 30 year sequel. It was what I thought it was gonna be. Had a few funny moments but overall of course no where near the original. I just enjoyed seeing an all black cast on screen. Teyanna Taylor gotta be the sexiest ugliest muthafucka ever!!! Best way to describe her
:lol: :lol:


Look, it's damn near impossible to make a successful 30 year sequel. It was what I thought it was gonna be. Had a few funny moments but overall of course no where near the original. I just enjoyed seeing an all black cast on screen. Teyanna Taylor gotta be the sexiest ugliest muthafucka ever!!! Best way to describe her but you know the pussy is phenomenal!! Those African bathers....... :jackoff: :jackoff: :jackoff: And the barber chick.....:fucking: Only part from a plot standpoint that bothered me was General Izzi out of nowhere letting go the fact Eddie's son didn't marry his daughter. Shit didn't make sense at all he wasn't mad but guess they didn't want to go there with more anger and potential violence.
when they kicked his ass they talked to him
he was shook.
 
Wrote this in another thread:

It was good for nostalgia. That I enjoyed. We all know that this sequel wouldn't hold a candle to the original. Snipes and Leslie Jones were a bright spot.

What would have made it better and/or things that irked me...

  • An 'R' rating like the original. Needed Samuel L Jack levels of MFers. Speaking of which, where was he? Where was the Queens sister?
  • I felt they were doing too much. Too many mini concerts.
  • The plot was simple, but it just didn't flow well. Had to focus on too many characters.
  • I kinda didn't like the sons character. Certain parts was ok... Certain parts, not so much.
I get it. COVID limited what could've been...
 
I have to say, I liked it more than I thought I would. That said, there were a few things that troubled me about the movie-

Leslie admitted she was a ho, and that the boy might not be Akeem's but they don't show any modern type of maternity testing, I guess Baba's vision was enough.

From a storytelling perspective, I didn't feel that Lavelle and Mirembe spent enough time together for them to be in love like they were supposed to be. I don't know if you do a montage, or what, but you have to show them grow towards each other. I was like, two haircuts and this dude in love?

I don't know that there were too many cameos, but there were certainly too many "celebrations".. (the funeral, Bopoto's introduction, then the wedding party, then the actual wedding... it felt to me like that was just filler. They could have used that time to better flesh out characters and/or relationships.


After seeing Wesley in Dolemite is My Name, I knew he was going to kill his role. Dude had me rolling.

one of my favorite scenes is when Izzi reintroduces Bopoto. There is a moment when- as she is approaching, Lavelle looks back at King Akeem,
and Akeem basically makes the :pain: face. I died.



Only part from a plot standpoint that bothered me was General Izzi out of nowhere letting go the fact Eddie's son didn't marry his daughter. Shit didn't make sense at all he wasn't mad but guess they didn't want to go there with more anger and potential violence.

I think they dealt with it in two ways.
Part of it why Izzi was mad in the first place was because of his sister still barking- King Akeem fixed that, but also Izzi was so aggressive because Akeem had no male heir. Once Lavelle rightfully took his place as a prince- that issue was settled.
 
I have to say, I liked it more than I thought I would. That said, there were a few things that troubled me about the movie-

Leslie admitted she was a ho, and that the boy might not be Akeem's but they don't show any modern type of maternity testing, I guess Baba's vision was enough.

From a storytelling perspective, I didn't feel that Lavelle and Mirembe spent enough time together for them to be in love like they were supposed to be. I don't know if you do a montage, or what, but you have to show them grow towards each other. I was like, two haircuts and this dude in love?

I don't know that there were too many cameos, but there were certainly too many "celebrations".. (the funeral, Bopoto's introduction, then the wedding party, then the actual wedding... it felt to me like that was just filler. They could have used that time to better flesh out characters and/or relationships.


After seeing Wesley in Dolemite is My Name, I knew he was going to kill his role. Dude had me rolling.

one of my favorite scenes is when Izzi reintroduces Bopoto. There is a moment when- as she is approaching, Lavelle looks back at King Akeem,
and Akeem basically makes the :pain: face. I died.





I think they dealt with it in two ways.
Part of it why Izzi was mad in the first place was because of his sister still barking- King Akeem fixed that, but also Izzi was so aggressive because Akeem had no male heir. Once Lavelle rightfully took his place as a prince- that issue was settled.
Kinda. But he still wanted HIS daughter to marry the prince so that part really wasn't settled.

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Look, it's damn near impossible to make a successful 30 year sequel. It was what I thought it was gonna be. Had a few funny moments but overall of course no where near the original. I just enjoyed seeing an all black cast on screen. Teyanna Taylor gotta be the sexiest ugliest muthafucka ever!!! Best way to describe her but you know the pussy is phenomenal!! Those African bathers....... :jackoff: :jackoff: :jackoff: And the barber chick.....:fucking: Only part from a plot standpoint that bothered me was General Izzi out of nowhere letting go the fact Eddie's son didn't marry his daughter. Shit didn't make sense at all he wasn't mad but guess they didn't want to go there with more anger and potential violence.

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Them bathers were everything for me bruh.
 
Only part from a plot standpoint that bothered me was General Izzi out of nowhere letting go the fact Eddie's son didn't marry his daughter. Shit didn't make sense at all he wasn't mad but guess they didn't want to go there with more anger and potential violence.

General Izzi was all bark and no bite, Prince Akeem had his sister Imani barking for 30 years and he didn't do shit. :lol:
 
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Not the worst movie I ever saw. Not even close.

But it was definitely cheesy as fuck. Shoulda named it “My Queen is From Zamunda” or some shit like it.

Crammed a lot into the movie. It was strictly a nostalgic flick. A reunion with up and coming actors.
Yep, this pretty much sums it up.
If this was just a standalone movie and not a sequel to a classic, it would be a decent movie.
I grinned during a couple of scenes, but nothing was hilarious to me.
Being watered down 30+ years later compared to a classic with a PG-13 rating and a bunch of "girl power" stuff hurts it.
 
I have to say, I liked it more than I thought I would. That said, there were a few things that troubled me about the movie-

Leslie admitted she was a ho, and that the boy might not be Akeem's but they don't show any modern type of maternity testing, I guess Baba's vision was enough.

From a storytelling perspective, I didn't feel that Lavelle and Mirembe spent enough time together for them to be in love like they were supposed to be. I don't know if you do a montage, or what, but you have to show them grow towards each other. I was like, two haircuts and this dude in love?

I don't know that there were too many cameos, but there were certainly too many "celebrations".. (the funeral, Bopoto's introduction, then the wedding party, then the actual wedding... it felt to me like that was just filler. They could have used that time to better flesh out characters and/or relationships.


After seeing Wesley in Dolemite is My Name, I knew he was going to kill his role. Dude had me rolling.

one of my favorite scenes is when Izzi reintroduces Bopoto. There is a moment when- as she is approaching, Lavelle looks back at King Akeem,
and Akeem basically makes the :pain: face. I died.





I think they dealt with it in two ways.
Part of it why Izzi was mad in the first place was because of his sister still barking- King Akeem fixed that, but also Izzi was so aggressive because Akeem had no male heir. Once Lavelle rightfully took his place as a prince- that issue was settled.

I had two of the same issues with the story.

How quick the son fell in love. Shawty said she wanted to open a salon and that her favorite movie is Hair Shop, now he wanna marry the girl. If that's all it took, he would've fell in love with half the hair stylists in Atlanta, nigga.

Then the story with the daughter gave the movie a whole feminist agenda only for Akeem to be "oh, you can run the shit now" to no fanfare. They spent a whole movie trying to make this nigga king material, he needs to do this, he needs to do that. Lil mama didn't have to do none of that? She just got the job.
Just made the shit feel like a waste.
 
I had two of the same issues with the story.

How quick the son fell in love. Shawty said she wanted to open a salon and that her favorite movie is Hair Shop, now he wanna marry the girl. If that's all it took, he would've fell in love with half the hair stylists in Atlanta, nigga.

Then the story with the daughter gave the movie a whole feminist agenda only for Akeem to be "oh, you can run the shit now" to no fanfare. They spent a whole movie trying to make this nigga king material, he needs to do this, he needs to do that. Lil mama didn't have to do none of that? She just got the job.
Just made the shit feel like a waste.

It was a compacted movie. They crammed as much as they could in this movie.

The original movie featured colorism and patriarchy. So the sequel made it a point to stay away from colorism and address patriarchy by promoting feminist agendas.
 
They went for the cheese.
Damn.
First one was a classic and fucking hilarious because they weren't trying to be funny. They were telling a story and funny shit happened along the way that was culturally relevant.

This one was trying to be funny. The story arcs and everything were clear as day and would work
Don't try and be funny and add extra shit. Don't put more attention on things. Don't check the boxes. Don't do a lot of what they did. Let things be a little surprise and have nuggets of stuff appear.
The stuff that we LOVE from the 1st weren't things they were throwing in our faces. It was the barbershop dudes because we knew them barbershop dudes
It was Randy Watson cause we knew him. It was the soul glo commercial because that shit was what it was at that point.
It was a time capsule.
This wasn't. This was pandering.

It's frustrating because with everything they did wrong it still was an enjoyable movie it just wasn't funny because they were trying to be funny.
ditto i saw it last night and i had the same thoughs
 
Dude. It was ALWAYS a straight up comedy.
Part 1 was just less slapstick comedy.
It had a layer of sophistication in its silliness.
Part 2 had none of the sophistication.


this
i never looked at coming to america as a comedy. it was a romantic movie sprinkled with comedic stuff.
i mean akeem wasnt even really funny the characters around him were.
and with this they wanted to make a comedy movie.
also the pc stuff kinda took a lot away too.
 
I had two of the same issues with the story.

How quick the son fell in love. Shawty said she wanted to open a salon and that her favorite movie is Hair Shop, now he wanna marry the girl. If that's all it took, he would've fell in love with half the hair stylists in Atlanta, nigga.

Then the story with the daughter gave the movie a whole feminist agenda only for Akeem to be "oh, you can run the shit now" to no fanfare. They spent a whole movie trying to make this nigga king material, he needs to do this, he needs to do that. Lil mama didn't have to do none of that? She just got the job.
Just made the shit feel like a waste.
I think they had intent with the hairdresser girl but other shit got caught up. I think Hakeems son had drive and a sense of being his own boss and he fell in love with her because she shared the same qualities. They didn’t do a good job of displaying that or they rushed it whichever one.
 
this
i never looked at coming to america as a comedy. it was a romantic movie sprinkled with comedic stuff.
i mean akeem wasnt even really funny the characters around him were.
and with this they wanted to make a comedy movie.
also the pc stuff kinda took a lot away too.
They followed the same blueprint that one did we just gotta be honest with ourselves....attempting that type of humor in a 2021 film ain’t gonna go over the same way it did in the 1980s for the first time.
 
nah son, the reality is today's eddie can't compete with the old eddie. EM was on a movie creative goldmine genius run at the time the first coming to america came out. He was becoming what we know and think of who eddie is t and we went to be oday. Nothing he will touch will ever be a classic or as funny as the original. Nobody wants new stuff from eddie they want to revisit the old eddie, so he gave them that.

The first coming to america was not a classic until later on video and constant cable repeat.s. no way in hell , Eddie gonna do a movie that is better than his past stuff. People expectations are way to high and unrealistic with everything. Nobody gets better after their creative peak. Nobody in the entertainment business has outdone themselves 30yrs later. Not will smith, Pacino, Dinero, chappelle, KHart, ... even richard pryor older works couldn't compete against his earlier works.

With that being said, EM delivered the goods.. the sequel was just an excuse to check up on some old friends nothing more...


I mean that's just not true and by the end of it you said so.
EM delivered the goods they needed a better script
The stories were GREAT
It was like we loved the entrance to the 1st bride
so NOW EVERYONE HAS AN ENTRANCE AND GRAND ONE WE GOTTA DO IT 4 TIMES.

Wesley snipes why is he like that? Why couldn't he be a serious threat to the kingdom but have funny quirks? Instead he's strutting weird and to the side and his son is the same and etc etc etc

Just tone it down SOME and it's perfect

Case in point ----
They were out there in the field chilling and Babar comes rolling through. The elephant supposedly that was a baby in the first one
DOPE CALL BACK!!!!
They didn't have the elephant roll through and do a hip hop dance.
The elephant didn't roll through and dap up Akeem and talk to him or fart on them as they went past
The elephant was like wassup ya'll remember me from 30 years ago? I'm still alive that's how I'm doing

Now apply that to almost EVERY FACET of the movie and this is a super uber classic.


Why he gotta put extra on his song now instead of singing it the exact same way cause its tradition? That brings back the nostalgia.
 
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