THE CANNABIS THREAD 101!!

Madgoose I gotta question for you.. Do you know much about aquaponics??

Aquaponics or aeroponics?
If it is aeroponics then I use an aeroponic propogator, same as any hydro system dwc, nft, ebb & flow just different delivery method.

Aquaponics I have no expeience with but as I have researched other aspects of growing I have come across it and absorbed some of the principles. Basically you maintain a fish tank suitable in size to house the amount of fish you need to produce sufficient fertiliser for the size of the garden that you have.

Go fie your question, I doubt I know the answer but I maybe able to steer you towards the answer, or research it myself and then try to explain it to you.
 
Aquaponics or aeroponics?
If it is aeroponics then I use an aeroponic propogator, same as any hydro system dwc, nft, ebb & flow just different delivery method.

Aquaponics I have no expeience with but as I have researched other aspects of growing I have come across it and absorbed some of the principles. Basically you maintain a fish tank suitable in size to house the amount of fish you need to produce sufficient fertiliser for the size of the garden that you have.

Go fie your question, I doubt I know the answer but I maybe able to steer you towards the answer, or research it myself and then try to explain it to you.

Right on, bruh.. I was thinking about a aquaponic grow for just 2 or 3 plants and I was wondering if I could use a 100 gal tank, with just 2in goldfish or do you need tilapia size fish.

Thanks for the feedback, also
 
Right on, bruh.. I was thinking about a aquaponic grow for just 2 or 3 plants and I was wondering if I could use a 100 gal tank, with just 2in goldfish or do you need tilapia size fish.

Thanks for the feedback, also

I was just looking on Youtube for the video that i did watch. It was an American University study which was very informative. If I remember correctly they were using Talapia, I think they are the fish of choice becasue they to are a food source/commodity.

The wiki page has some good info but not the formula that you need.



I don't think the Ohio Universtiy one is the one you will have to watch them, i am sure he explaind the formulas.


You need to know how much fertiliser the plants need and how much each fish produces for their size.
 
@roots69 thats a complicated way to grow. There is a lot to go wrong, trust me I have never messed up a hydro grow but the day i do not check it is the day something fails or goes wrong. I would take a year to learn how to keep fish in a regular fish tank (if you have no prior experiance), whilst doing that do you research and planning to go full Aquaponics. There seems to be a fine line and the skill is in collecting the fertiliser (fish excrement) and keeping their environment clean enough for them to survive.

You are going to need to learn about and understand "potential of hydrogen" (pH) the acidity /alkalinity of liquids/water


the EC (electrical conductivity) or CF (total disolved salts) also measuerd in PPM (parts per million) of which the US uses a diferent scale (same name) as Europe (one is x 500 the other x 700 if I remember correctly). Taken from the BlueLab page re@ Conductivity "so you can choose to measure in EC, CF, PPM 500 (TDS) or PPM 700."



I recommend BlueLab equipment they are more or less the industry standard and are very robust. Get the pH pen and the EC truncheon if you can, they also do a kit with the pH pen and an EC pen.

 
@roots69 thats a complicated way to grow. There is a lot to go wrong, trust me I have never messed up a hydro grow but the day i do not check it is the day something fails or goes wrong. I would take a year to learn how to keep fish in a regular fish tank (if you have no prior experiance), whilst doing that do you research and planning to go full Aquaponics. There seems to be a fine line and the skill is in collecting the fertiliser (fish excrement) and keeping their environment clean enough for them to survive.

You are going to need to learn about and understand "potential of hydrogen" (pH) the acidity /alkalinity of liquids/water


the EC (electrical conductivity) or CF (total disolved salts) also measuerd in PPM (parts per million) of which the US uses a diferent scale (same name) as Europe (one is x 500 the other x 700 if I remember correctly). Taken from the BlueLab page re@ Conductivity "so you can choose to measure in EC, CF, PPM 500 (TDS) or PPM 700."



I recommend BlueLab equipment they are more or less the industry standard and are very robust. Get the pH pen and the EC truncheon if you can, they also do a kit with the pH pen and an EC pen.


Bruh, your right.. I just got done reading that wikipedia page. I was trying to be cheap and not buy fertz and things. But after reading that wiki page, it was too many things I would have to invest in. So, Im going to stick with doing DWC and spend the money on the fertz and PH, air pumps and other parts.. Again thanks for the feedback and the info you put up..
 
Bruh, your right.. I just got done reading that wikipedia page. I was trying to be cheap and not buy fertz and things. But after reading that wiki page, it was too many things I would have to invest in. So, Im going to stick with doing DWC and spend the money on the fertz and PH, air pumps and other parts.. Again thanks for the feedback and the info you put up..


Cool bro, anything to help. Your doing DWC? that is the route I am planning RDWC, recirculating deep water culture. I have had my eye on these for a while, I have spoken with the manufacturer and the bud potential is phenomenal, they say to only veg it for 3 weeks otherwise the root area will be to big by the end of flowering, that will be intersting becasue I religously do a minimum of 10 weeks in flower.


I was interested in the 55 liter pots with the 4 inch pipe but after talking to them they recommended the 24 site 36 liter Pro Silver Series becasue of the low headroom I have.
 
Cool bro, anything to help. Your doing DWC? that is the route I am planning RDWC, recirculating deep water culture. I have had my eye on these for a while, I have spoken with the manufacturer and the bud potential is phenomenal, they say to only veg it for 3 weeks otherwise the root area will be to big by the end of flowering, that will be intersting becasue I religously do a minimum of 10 weeks in flower.


I was interested in the 55 liter pots with the 4 inch pipe but after talking to them they recommended the 24 site 36 liter Pro Silver Series becasue of the low headroom I have.

Man, I never heard of a RDWC. After going to that site and seeing the systems, Im going to go with that setup!! Thats exactly what I had in mind and that main bucket. Now Ive gotta go do sum research on how the rdwc works.. Thanks again, Ill let you know when I get it started..
 
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Got my first pistils..they're on a few different
Branch junctures.

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But this one got me wondering..

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Looks like a calyx but no pistils yet and it's bigger than the others.
 
Bruh, your right.. I just got done reading that wikipedia page. I was trying to be cheap and not buy fertz and things. But after reading that wiki page, it was too many things I would have to invest in. So, Im going to stick with doing DWC and spend the money on the fertz and PH, air pumps and other parts.. Again thanks for the feedback and the info you put up..


When adjusting your pH you need to dilute the solution before adding it to your nutrient solution. I have read that a dilution rate 1:10 is correct, I do not strictly adhere to that but I do always dilute. If you are adding a silicon/silicate product add it first, but not directly to your nutrient tank. I have found in the past that it can congeal, a year back I mentioned this to a guy at the counter in a grow shop and he told me that an old boy told him to first add it to hot water (not boiling), I usually add some of my chlorine evaporated water to a microwaveable jug and warm it, I then add the silicon and stir vigorously for a few minutes before pouring it into my water that will become my nutrient solution. Think about adding some Calcium and Magnesium, this is often an overlooked mineral. I have a pump in the water butt that I am preparing my nutrient solution in to ensure that it is properly mixed. The second video verifies everything I have just written, it just happened to be playing after I watched the first video that I posted so I included it.



 
Fuck those Amazon 608ZZ bearings. After fitting them I ran the fan for 24 hours but it sounded like a jet fighter was trying to take off. I stripped the fan down again and there was considerable play of the impeller on the shaft, I refitted the original bearings and noticed no play, the fan ran a lot quieter, hopefully the shaft has not been damaged. I am returning them to Amazon today and contacting a bearing specialist outlet at 09:00hrs.
 
Update:

Removed the RVK 150mm and replaced it with an RVK 200mm slightly bigger but only pulling 76cm3/p/h more, so still in the right parameter to maintain negative pressure.

I called 2 bearing specialists but neither knew the exact specification of the bearings that I needed. Seeing as I am in no rush I contacted the UK division of the manufacturer who did not know either and will contact the factory in Germany and email back in a few days.

Who would have thought that little balls could cause so much trouble.
 
@madgoose

I got a fuckin hermie..but I'm gonna pull any more Pollen sacs I see and keep it going.its my only grow so fuck it.plus it's still early in flowering,,might not see anymore.i hope.

:please:
 
Update:

Removed the RVK 150mm and replaced it with an RVK 200mm slightly bigger but only pulling 76cm3/p/h more, so still in the right parameter to maintain negative pressure.

I called 2 bearing specialists but neither knew the exact specification of the bearings that I needed. Seeing as I am in no rush I contacted the UK division of the manufacturer who did not know either and will contact the factory in Germany and email back in a few days.

Who would have thought that little balls could cause so much trouble.

Madgoose, bruh ive been researching those RDWC.. Man, Im going to go with that type of setup, a little 4 tote setup and that should be more than enuf for me.. Thanks for tossing that info on me..
 
@madgoose

I got a fuckin hermie..but I'm gonna pull any more Pollen sacs I see and keep it going.its my only grow so fuck it.plus it's still early in flowering,,might not see anymore.i hope.

:please:

don't stress over it. Are you growing for personal or are you looking to, erm? Recoup some of your expenses, so to speak? If it is for you no biggie, you just going to have to pull the seeds out before you put your bud in the grinder, if you looking to recoup, as long as the ganja is banging you may loose 20% off of your gross?

Don't get upset mate, just look at it as yo now have the reason to educate yourself on "flowering" and hermaphrodites/intersex. I have listed the chapters and pages below. It really is worth reading because it is relevant to you now so you will want to understand it.

My first successful grow went to seed but not because of hermaphrodites. I had been trying to sex some plants that I had grown from seed. I had taken two cuttings from each plant labelled them and put them in my flowering room with the 36 females I had that were at about week 4 of flowering and looking good.
At day 10 for the cuttings in the flowering room I gad to go to London and having been away at my grow which means I pretty much live like a recluse, I partied to hard and stayed 4 days instead of 2. As soon as I returned I went straight out to my flowering room, immediately I could see that the girls looked different. Over the next few days I noticed tiny green "balls" appearing, this was the beginning formation of the seeds. The final product was more than acceptable, yes i lost a little bit of the premium that I was lookin for, like 10% of my gross, it just meant people had to pluck out he seeds like weed of old.

I am guessing you had feminised seeds? I prefer to use regular seeds. The thing with feminised seeds are I feel that they are a bit of a false sense of security. Because of how they are made they cannot produce an outright male, only females and females that can turn hermaphrodite. The hermie part may be on one branch, or it could show traits of hermie all over the plant and could even turn hermie in the last week of flowering. I have heard of a single branch in the far corner of the room being overlooked and the result is the whole garden becoming seeded. You can still produce excellent weed even though it has gone to seed. I don't care how it looks, smells or tastes, I have bought weed before that looks like the yellow hay that the horse had shitted out (and didn't smell much better either) but it was an excellent smoke and I have grown weed that looks perfect, well formed, smells great and tastes good but it had no strength. Let me find the relevant pages in the book about seed genetics because they explain it a lot better than I can and that is where I learnt it from.

If you open the pdf and type in "hermaphrodite" in the search feature it will highlight the word at each place it appears in the book. There should be 17 results and if you use the up/down arrows to the left of the X (to close) it will scroll you to each appearance of the word.
Definitely read all of Chapter 4 "Flowering" page 178
See “Intersexuality” in Chapter Sixteen, Breeding.

Page 829 - "Plants exhibiting both staminate and pistillate flowers are most often referred to as “hermaphrodites” by drug cannabis cultivators but are more correctly referred to as intersex plants."

Page 859 - "Intersex plants are often mistakenly called hermaphrodites. "

read through the section starting on page 858 as that explains (what I did not want to attempt to) about how the X and Y chromosomes

page 859 - "Ethylene is one of only a few known plant hormones, and plays many roles in plant development across a range of species. In cannabis, one of ethylene’s major roles is its involvement in the determination of sex. It regulates which flowers should be produced-stamen or pistil. We know this because applying high enough concentrations of ethylene to staminate individuals in the flowering cycle results in the formation of pistils. Conversely, applying ethylene-inhibiting agents to pistillate individuals as they enter flowering results in the formation of stamens in place of pistils. This practice can be of use to breeders in the creation of “feminized” seeds, or all-female (gynoecious) seedlots. "

THE NEXT SECTION I AM REFERRING TO, (a little deeper than I need to know about), is how "feminised" seeds are created,

"All female seeds are produced by obtaining pollen from one female individual, and subsequently fertilizing another female plant. When we previously discussed chromosomes, we said there were 20 chromsomes in each cell of the plant. The 10th pair of chromosomes, the smallest pair, are the sex chromosomes. Female cannabis plants have two copies of the X chromosome, therefore their genotype is XX. Male plants have only 1 copy of the X chromosome, and a Y chromosome instead of a second X chromosome. The genotype of male plants in terms of the sex chromosomes is XY."

I hope that was of some use to you. You can cut of the male sections off but it could lead to stressing the plant more, resulting with it then producing more male traits.
 
Madgoose, bruh ive been researching those RDWC.. Man, Im going to go with that type of setup, a little 4 tote setup and that should be more than enuf for me.. Thanks for tossing that info on me..


Some of those systems are quite expensive, but they are designed to go together with minimal fuss and leaks. If you are so minded you can probably make one a lot cheaper, just remember to use PTFE tape on all the threads were liquids pass through and find a good plumbers silicon type sealant to ensure a watertight finish to protect yourself and your home. Here are some on Youtube, I do not remember of hand which ones I have seen and would recommend. Watch as many as you can, one may have a different method, feature or technique making your application easier or simpler.

 
don't stress over it. Are you growing for personal or are you looking to, erm? Recoup some of your expenses, so to speak? If it is for you no biggie, you just going to have to pull the seeds out before you put your bud in the grinder, if you looking to recoup, as long as the ganja is banging you may loose 20% off of your gross?

Don't get upset mate, just look at it as yo now have the reason to educate yourself on "flowering" and hermaphrodites/intersex. I have listed the chapters and pages below. It really is worth reading because it is relevant to you now so you will want to understand it.

My first successful grow went to seed but not because of hermaphrodites. I had been trying to sex some plants that I had grown from seed. I had taken two cuttings from each plant labelled them and put them in my flowering room with the 36 females I had that were at about week 4 of flowering and looking good.
At day 10 for the cuttings in the flowering room I gad to go to London and having been away at my grow which means I pretty much live like a recluse, I partied to hard and stayed 4 days instead of 2. As soon as I returned I went straight out to my flowering room, immediately I could see that the girls looked different. Over the next few days I noticed tiny green "balls" appearing, this was the beginning formation of the seeds. The final product was more than acceptable, yes i lost a little bit of the premium that I was lookin for, like 10% of my gross, it just meant people had to pluck out he seeds like weed of old.

I am guessing you had feminised seeds? I prefer to use regular seeds. The thing with feminised seeds are I feel that they are a bit of a false sense of security. Because of how they are made they cannot produce an outright male, only females and females that can turn hermaphrodite. The hermie part may be on one branch, or it could show traits of hermie all over the plant and could even turn hermie in the last week of flowering. I have heard of a single branch in the far corner of the room being overlooked and the result is the whole garden becoming seeded. You can still produce excellent weed even though it has gone to seed. I don't care how it looks, smells or tastes, I have bought weed before that looks like the yellow hay that the horse had shitted out (and didn't smell much better either) but it was an excellent smoke and I have grown weed that looks perfect, well formed, smells great and tastes good but it had no strength. Let me find the relevant pages in the book about seed genetics because they explain it a lot better than I can and that is where I learnt it from.

If you open the pdf and type in "hermaphrodite" in the search feature it will highlight the word at each place it appears in the book. There should be 17 results and if you use the up/down arrows to the left of the X (to close) it will scroll you to each appearance of the word.
Definitely read all of Chapter 4 "Flowering" page 178
See “Intersexuality” in Chapter Sixteen, Breeding.

Page 829 - "Plants exhibiting both staminate and pistillate flowers are most often referred to as “hermaphrodites” by drug cannabis cultivators but are more correctly referred to as intersex plants."

Page 859 - "Intersex plants are often mistakenly called hermaphrodites. "

read through the section starting on page 858 as that explains (what I did not want to attempt to) about how the X and Y chromosomes

page 859 - "Ethylene is one of only a few known plant hormones, and plays many roles in plant development across a range of species. In cannabis, one of ethylene’s major roles is its involvement in the determination of sex. It regulates which flowers should be produced-stamen or pistil. We know this because applying high enough concentrations of ethylene to staminate individuals in the flowering cycle results in the formation of pistils. Conversely, applying ethylene-inhibiting agents to pistillate individuals as they enter flowering results in the formation of stamens in place of pistils. This practice can be of use to breeders in the creation of “feminized” seeds, or all-female (gynoecious) seedlots. "

THE NEXT SECTION I AM REFERRING TO, (a little deeper than I need to know about), is how "feminised" seeds are created,

"All female seeds are produced by obtaining pollen from one female individual, and subsequently fertilizing another female plant. When we previously discussed chromosomes, we said there were 20 chromsomes in each cell of the plant. The 10th pair of chromosomes, the smallest pair, are the sex chromosomes. Female cannabis plants have two copies of the X chromosome, therefore their genotype is XX. Male plants have only 1 copy of the X chromosome, and a Y chromosome instead of a second X chromosome. The genotype of male plants in terms of the sex chromosomes is XY."

I hope that was of some use to you. You can cut of the male sections off but it could lead to stressing the plant more, resulting with it then producing more male traits.

Nah I'm not upset,everytime I see all the other budding sites with hairs everywhere im like

:dance:

I'm Not trying to earn bread,it's just a relaxing hobby with a nice payout.im gonna get some autoflowering seeds for the next one and better lights.gonna try lst training too.need to use the space I have more wisely.thanks for the info!
 
Nah I'm not upset,everytime I see all the other budding sites with hairs everywhere im like

:dance:

I'm Not trying to earn bread,it's just a relaxing hobby with a nice payout.im gonna get some autoflowering seeds for the next one and better lights.gonna try lst training too.need to use the space I have more wisely.thanks for the info!


Cool bro, just trying to share what I have learnt, and I feel that that book is written in a way that is not to complex so anybody could pick it up and learn, that is why I recommend it.

I understand what you mean by it being a relaxing hobby. When all is going well it is very rewarding, I can often just sit looking into my garden, visually inspecting everything and watching the plants. You learn how to read your plants, (look at the section of the book that explains nutrient deficiencies, to high or to low humidity, and, to high or to low temperatures and how the leaf changes.

Unfortunately I am finding it stressful at the moment because a lot of my equipment is breaking down on me, which I find frustrating. It has not been used for 5-6 years but was cleaned, serviced etc before being stored and things are just dying on me. Tomorrow the electrician is fitting 2 x 32amp circuits for me so I will not worry about burning the place down and I went to my local shop and had a chat with them. He told me to write a list of what I need and it will not be a problem. I have walked out of there before with £2000 put on my tab. So I know better days are coming and the trials and tribulations are sent to test me. Yesterday I was removing electric garage doors (which also do not work but will be when they are refitted) and trying to repair 8 oscillating fans, testing them with a multi meter. My pH pen decided to die back in December so I bought a new one and last week I told the guy in the shop that this one is no longer holding the calibration, it is the third one he has changed since December with the same fault , he is now getting me a Bluelab pH pen. I wired up my 1000w Digital ballast, it worked fine, for one day! I called up the manufacturer to ask if their were any serviceable parts inside (I already knew that there was not because all of the internals are covered in a resin to protect the electrical component's from the humidity) and he offered to sell me one at the wholesale price.

This game/hobby/business is definitely about being able to talk with people, on so many levels. Sometimes just keeping the equipment and environment dialled in correctly are harder than growing the plants.
 
Some of those systems are quite expensive, but they are designed to go together with minimal fuss and leaks. If you are so minded you can probably make one a lot cheaper, just remember to use PTFE tape on all the threads were liquids pass through and find a good plumbers silicon type sealant to ensure a watertight finish to protect yourself and your home. Here are some on Youtube, I do not remember of hand which ones I have seen and would recommend. Watch as many as you can, one may have a different method, feature or technique making your application easier or simpler.


What I plan on doing is take sum ideas from different systems and put them all together.. In my head ive got a system put together and now its finding a grow tent, led lite and carbon filter and the other part searching and buying time.
 
Autoflowers are trash bro.
Nah I'm not upset,everytime I see all the other budding sites with hairs everywhere im like

:dance:

I'm Not trying to earn bread,it's just a relaxing hobby with a nice payout.im gonna get some autoflowering seeds for the next one and better lights.gonna try lst training too.need to use the space I have more wisely.thanks for the info!
 
Most people are familiar with the cannabis types, sativa and indica. Well, a third type of cannabis is ruderlis (sp). That's what is used to make autos. Very weak THC, small and bushy.
Not saying you don't know this already, but growing is a patient man's game. Just grow some regular seeds and be patient. You will have much higher quality flowers.
Autos are good for dudes trying to flip. A man who appreciates quality won't fuck with it.
And fuck bottled nutrients. Grow organic. Peace!
Really? Why?
 
Most people are familiar with the cannabis types, sativa and indica. Well, a third type of cannabis is ruderlis (sp). That's what is used to make autos. Very weak THC, small and bushy.
Not saying you don't know this already, but growing is a patient man's game. Just grow some regular seeds and be patient. You will have much higher quality flowers.
Autos are good for dudes trying to flip. A man who appreciates quality won't fuck with it.
And fuck bottled nutrients. Grow organic. Peace!

Got more reading to do..thanks bruh!
 
What I plan on doing is take sum ideas from different systems and put them all together.. In my head ive got a system put together and now its finding a grow tent, led lite and carbon filter and the other part searching and buying time.


Look into the Lumatek Zues range and the Dimlux Maxi controller which is compatible and gives some good control over various parameters.

You can extend the control of the Dimlux controller by which modules you decide to (or not) purchase.
***EDIT***

Lumatek trade under a different name in the USA
 


Good info 4th, I forgot about Ruderalis and did not know that was how autos had been created.

@Mr.Mojo take a look at these links...

Cannabis Ruderalis: Rugged Weed With A Hidden Talent
Cannabis ruderalis has humbly remained the underdog of the three major cannabis subspecies. However, it is now making its name known and gaining well-earned respect by bringing autoflowering genes to the scene.

27 Feb 2020
When talking about cannabis strains, most will likely think of the two predominant subtypes: indica and sativa.
However, most everyday consumers aren’t aware that there is a lesser known type of cannabis that has transformed the world of cultivation and strain creation: Cannabis ruderalis.


What Is Cannabis Ruderalis?
Will Hyde
June 4, 2015

You may already know the differences between indica and sativa varieties of cannabis, but have you heard of cannabis ruderalis? According to Jorge Cervantes, grow guru and author of The Cannabis Encyclopedia, “Botanists disagree as to whether c. ruderalis qualifies as a separate species or subspecies.” So, to answer some of the questions we receive about cannabis ruderalis and autoflowering genetics, Leafly has put together a quick background on this lesser-known classification of cannabis strains.


Cannabis ruderalis, or C. sativa sativa var. spontanea, is a low-THC variety or subspecies of Cannabis which is native to Central and Eastern Europe and Russia. Many scholars accept Cannabis ruderalis as its own species due to its unique traits and phenotypes which distinguish it from Cannabis indica and Cannabis sativa; however, it is widely debated by many other scholars as to whether or not ruderalis is a subspecies of Cannabis sativa

 
Look into the Lumatek Zues range and the Dimlux Maxi controller which is compatible and gives some good control over various parameters.

You can extend the control of the Dimlux controller by which modules you decide to (or not) purchase.
***EDIT***

Lumatek trade under a different name in the USA

Brotha, thanks for the feedback..
 
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