Joe Biden is now POTUS

[BigDaddyBuk]

You are correct that in the end it got no votes from Senate republicans but there were efforts to get them onboard from the very beginning including the eventual elimination of the public option.

this sir, is patently false. the public option was removed only because of Joe Lieberman.

that article states PLAINLY:

The Senate Finance Committee, chaired by Montana Democrat Max Baucus, was writing its own version of the ACA.

President Obama, seeking a "grand bargain" on health reform, conferred his benediction to continue discussions with any Republican senator willing to participate, but by the fall of 2009 it was clear that having the support of only one or two GOP senators would not be enough Republican DNA to support a plausible claim of bipartisanship.

it WAS NOT a bipartisan bill.

that article does not name one piece of policy in the ACA that came directly from a republican.

it also does not say at all why the public option was dropped.

the house version of the ACA was CHANGED to match the senate version, which had already passed.

 

[Spectrum]

Shit's ridiculous. Even if you feel that way, why would she say that publicly and hand the power to Mitch. Mitch is pulling this bullshit right now because she showed Mitch her hand.

 

[darth frosty]

THIS MUTHAFUCKA

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

He doesn't have that option because Manchin is on the record right now saying that he doesn't support it. Manchin also doesn't support what McConnell wants but there is no way for Schumer to move forward right now without the entirety of the caucus which he doesn't have at the moment.

ima ask you again...who decides what can and what cannot be voted on in the senate right now?

 

[zod16]

Do you really believe that?

So a reformed criminal that received a formal education shouldn't be able to serve congress because they have a criminal history, but based on your logic, "people from all sorts of life should be allowed?" That seems sort of contradictory to me.

This lady is an idiot and a racist who is about as one-track-minded as a dog that smelled Bacos.

I'm not even going to knock on the GED because there are plenty of people that do very well (way better than me), but a formal education to serve congress should be considered since they deal with laws. This chick can't think past the 2nd Amendment and she can't even get that right.

The real problem is that the districts are so gerrymandered that an idiot with a criminal record married to a sex offender has a shot at getting elected because the only people eligible to vote in that election are also idiots with a history of fucking up . You typically don't have problems like this with Senators since those are statewide elections. I honestly don't believe we will have a functional government until we fix gerrymandering and do something about Fox and some of the other right wing propaganda outlets.

 

[Spectrum]

He doesn't have that option because Manchin is on the record right now saying that he doesn't support it. Manchin also doesn't support what McConnell wants but there is no way for Schumer to move forward right now without the entirety of the caucus which he doesn't have at the moment.

Man. He's not hearing that. Manchin and Sinema said they aren't with it. Sinema seems to be a bigger problem than Manchin now. As long as they on the record as "no" votes, Schumer doesn't have the power. Dude doesn't get that. He thinks the hypothetical means something. It's like he doesn't understand the current dynamics of the Senate. Mitch is doing what he's doing right now SOLELY because he knows Schumer doesn't have the option. As soon as Schumer actually has it, Mitch will sign the powersharing agreement so that Schumer won't use it. He's pretty much telling Schumer, If you think you are Senate Majority Leader, prove it and get your 50 votes.

 

[Politic Negro]

The current problem. The only way to solve it is Mitch kicking the bucket.

 

[BDR]

Biden plans to replace federal fleet with American-made electric vehicles

President Joe Biden said today that the U.S. federal government would replace its fleet of vehicles with electric vehicles. “The federal government also owns an enormous fleet of vehicles, which we're going to replace with clean electric vehicles made right here in America, by American...

www.yahoo.com

Mofos gonna be riding Tesla model 3s lol

 

[zod16]

ima ask you again...who decides what can and what cannot be voted on in the senate right now?

Right now Mitch since new rules haven't been adopted yet. Schumer can't do anything unless he gets the turtle to agree to the old rules from 2001. Schumer doesn't have the full support of his caucus so he cant do anything other than that right now.

 

[Spectrum]

Did Mitch pay any penalty for nuking the filibuster for the Supreme Court? No... none whatsoever. he got 3 far right SC justices out of it and paid no political price for it. None. However, he delivered for his voters.

Are Dems going to learn, before it's too late, that Americans don't give a shit about the mechanics of Congress. They're going to judge the Dems on what they delivered while they are in power. if they don't deliver, they're going to hand congress right back to the GOP.

Schumer needs to hold a political gun to Sinema's head right now.

 

[4 Dimensional]

The real problem is that the districts are so gerrymandered that an idiot with a criminal record married to a sex offender has a shot at getting elected because the only people eligible to vote in that election are also idiots with a history of fucking up . You typically don't have problems like this with Senators since those are statewide elections. I honestly don't believe we will have a functional government until we fix gerrymandering and do something about Fox and some of the other right wing propaganda outlets.

That shit is crazy to me. A fuckin retard can be a rep just because of gerrymandering.

Just a fucked up ass system we got.

 

[BKF]

He doesn't have that option because Manchin is on the record right now saying that he doesn't support it. Manchin also doesn't support what McConnell wants but there is no way for Schumer to move forward right now without the entirety of the caucus which he doesn't have at the moment.

The option is available for the dems to use. It is up to the dems and not Mitch whether or not they can use that option is the point.

 

[Spectrum]

So how are the rules for Trump's impeachment trial being set now?

This is probably the other reason why Mitch is pulling this shit.

 

[zod16]

The option is available for the dems to use. It is up to the dems and not Mitch whether or not they can use that option is the point.

The option you are talking about requires 50 votes + the VP. He has 48 votes max right now + the VP. He doesn't have that as an option right now...

 

[BDR]

Did Mitch pay any penalty for nuking the filibuster for the Supreme Court? No... none whatsoever. he got 3 far right SC justices out of it and paid no political price for it. None. However, he delivered for his voters.

Are Dems going to learn, before it's too late, that Americans don't give a shit about the mechanics of Congress. They're going to judge the Dems on what they delivered while they are in power. if they don't deliver, they're going to hand congress right back to the GOP.

Schumer needs to hold a political gun to Sinema's head right now.

Be better black mail her ass that’s the only way.. Have her acting like Lindsay

 

[darth frosty]

 

[zod16]

That shit is crazy to me. A fuckin retard can be a rep just because of gerrymandering.

Just a fucked up ass system we got.

Her and the cripple from NC are battling for that top retard title.

 

[BKF]

The option you are talking about requires 50 votes + the VP. He has 48 votes max right now + the VP. He doesn't have that as an option right now...

Yes it requires dems to be on the same page with and Kamala casting the tie vote. I understand that Schumer doesn't have the votes but if he gets the votes from all who caucus with the dems. Then it's an option.

It's an option that doesn't require Mitch's approval. This is my bottomline..so I don't understand why people keep bringing up false arguments.

 

[tical]

Shit's ridiculous. Even if you feel that way, why would she say that publicly and hand the power to Mitch. Mitch is pulling this bullshit right now because she showed Mitch her hand.

I've maintained for years one of the best strategies you can do is to plant moles. Representatives in other parties that on paper say their x,y,z but in reality they're just plants for key moments like this.

 

[4 Dimensional]

Her and the cripple from NC are battling for that top retard title.

 

[ugk]

Mitch McConnell, now the minority leader, is still setting the Senate agenda

McConnell is exploiting Democrats' razor thin majority to ensure business still operates on his terms — and Chuck Schumer is about done with it.

www.axios.com

• It was McConnell — not Schumer — who laid out the schedule for former President Trump's impeachment trial, demanding it to be pushed to mid-February. Schumer acquiesced, arguing he would use the time to pass President Biden's Cabinet nominations.
• White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki cited McConnell — not Schumer — while discussing those nominees. "I know that our secretary of State is just about to get confirmed, or so Sen. McConnell tells us," she told reporters Friday.
• Schumer told reporters to "ask McConnell" when they peppered him with questions last week about Janet Yellen's confirmation vote for Treasury secretary

 

[Kubrick]

Did Mitch pay any penalty for nuking the filibuster for the Supreme Court? No... none whatsoever. he got 3 far right SC justices out of it and paid no political price for it. None. However, he delivered for his voters.

Are Dems going to learn, before it's too late, that Americans don't give a shit about the mechanics of Congress. They're going to judge the Dems on what they delivered while they are in power. if they don't deliver, they're going to hand congress right back to the GOP.

Schumer needs to hold a political gun to Sinema's head right now.

Not to go all conspiracy theorist on you, but I'm starting to think the Senate Dems are in on alot of this shit with Repubs.

 

[Politic Negro]

Her and the cripple from NC are battling for that top retard title.

They won't overthrow this King of Stupid

 

[zod16]

Yes it requires dems to be on the same page with and Kamala casting the tie vote. I understand that Schumer doesn't have the votes but if he gets the votes from all who caucus with the dems. Then it's an option.

It's an option that doesn't require Mitch's approval. This is my bottomline..so I don't understand why people keep bringing up false arguments.

What exactly are you arguing then? I haven't seen anyone say that Schumer couldn't act if he had the votes...

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

Right now Mitch since new rules haven't been adopted yet. Schumer can't do anything unless he gets the turtle to agree to the old rules from 2001. Schumer doesn't have the full support of his caucus so he cant do anything other than that right now.

THANK YOU.
Chuck cant even call a vote with which to go nuclear.

 

[zod16]

They won't overthrow this King of Stupid

The shit that scares me is that the craziest GOP reps are all doctors/attorneys.

 

[BKF]

What exactly are you arguing then? I haven't seen anyone say that Schumer couldn't act if he had the votes...

Dude I made a reply to how dems could stop Mitch's bs. The poster I oringially replied to said Schumer could not use that power until there is a power sharing agreement. Once again that is not the case at all. That is what I've been arguing.

 

[BKF]

THANK YOU.
Chuck cant even call a vote with which to go nuclear.

"The big question: A clear test of Schumer's muscle will center on his approach to passing the $1.9 trillion pandemic relief bill Biden has proposed.

• Getting his plan through — or any substantial legislation, for that matter — will require a huge level of bipartisanship, and there's little enthusiasm from Republicans for another massive stimulus package.

What we're hearing: Schumer is warming up to the idea of jamming through the stimulus package by way of reconciliation — a budget end-around that would allow for it to pass by a simple 51-vote majority.

• Even if that's saber-rattling, it may be his only degree of leverage over Republicans unless Schumer reverts to an all-in, partisan approach to lawmaking."

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Mofos gonna be riding Tesla model 3s lol

I almost got into a fight in Queens with a Model 3 Taxi driver over the weekend.

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

The big question: A clear test of Schumer's muscle will center on his approach to passing the $1.9 trillion pandemic relief bill Biden has proposed.

• Getting his plan through — or any substantial legislation, for that matter — will require a huge level of bipartisanship, and there's little enthusiasm from Republicans for another massive stimulus package.

What we're hearing: Schumer is warming up to the idea of jamming through the stimulus package by way of reconciliation — a budget end-around that would allow for it to pass by a simple 51-vote majority.

• Even if that's saber-rattling, it may be his only degree of leverage over Republicans unless Schumer reverts to an all-in, partisan approach to lawmaking.

Chuck cant even bring a vote to the floor right now.

he cant go nuclear until he gains the power to bring a vote to the senate!

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Did Mitch pay any penalty for nuking the filibuster for the Supreme Court? No... none whatsoever. he got 3 far right SC justices out of it and paid no political price for it. None. However, he delivered for his voters.

Are Dems going to learn, before it's too late, that Americans don't give a shit about the mechanics of Congress. They're going to judge the Dems on what they delivered while they are in power. if they don't deliver, they're going to hand congress right back to the GOP.

Schumer needs to hold a political gun to Sinema's head right now.

If he were to get aggressive with the bisexual lawmaker, some in the caucus would ask him to resign because he’s a sexist bully.

That’s the difference between the 2 parties. One party plans a civil war and the other gets flack for taking provocative photos. Cunningham is a piece of shit.

 

[Spectrum]

Mitch McConnell, now the minority leader, is still setting the Senate agenda

McConnell is exploiting Democrats' razor thin majority to ensure business still operates on his terms — and Chuck Schumer is about done with it.

www.axios.com

• It was McConnell — not Schumer — who laid out the schedule for former President Trump's impeachment trial, demanding it to be pushed to mid-February. Schumer acquiesced, arguing he would use the time to pass President Biden's Cabinet nominations.
• White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki cited McConnell — not Schumer — while discussing those nominees. "I know that our secretary of State is just about to get confirmed, or so Sen. McConnell tells us," she told reporters Friday.
• Schumer told reporters to "ask McConnell" when they peppered him with questions last week about Janet Yellen's confirmation vote for Treasury secretary

I keep telling @BKF that Schumer might literally be "Senate Majority Leader" but Mitch runs the Senate right now.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Chuck cant even bring a vote to the floor right now.

he cant go nuclear until he gains the power to bring a vote to the senate!

Charlene Schumer is being revealed for the hoe ass buster he is. Mothafuckas getting stomped the fuck out and they’re complaining that the brand of the boots may not be authorized.

 

[TIMEISMONEY]

For the most part, I think Birx underestimated the damage that the Trump admin could do and Fauci didn't. There are several briefings where you can see Fauci fallback, like, "if I can't say the truth i just aint gone say shit"....while there are several where you can see Birx take the position (seemingly) of "let me say what I can...stroke this admin's ego....and trust the people to get my undecipherable message". And in the end, this is why Fauci will persist as an icon and Birx will go down with the ship.

Exactly. When you're s professional, you have to know when to lead and when to follow. As doctor you're the leader. She forgot that. You never follow Donald!

 

[Spectrum]

so I don't understand why people keep bringing up false arguments.

No one is bringing up false arguments. We're trying to get you to fully accept your hypothetical. Schumer doesn't have that power right now. Two members of his caucus literally told the world that he doesn't have that power because they won't vote to give it to him.