So you are saying people who support that agenda should vote for who?
I’m saying they should make it a requirement of the candidate(s) they choose to vote for.
So you are saying people who support that agenda should vote for who?
did Japanese families kept in internment camps, and Native-American tribes get 10+TRILLION dollars?? its a yes or no??
Yes those other groups got reparations but nowhere NEAR the degree Black Americans would JUSTIFIABLY have to get.
Have you actually read any of Darity’s works or even listened to an interview with him?
that DIRECT ECONOMIC POLICY INITIATIVE isn't going to come anywhere near the 17 TRILLION dollars quoted...but you wanted a policy plan heres the proposal... in fact Iput up a thread that compared both Biden and trumps proposals
The PITCH TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY: BIDEN PLAN VS TRUMPS "PLATINUM" PLAN - which is more comprehensive to you?
LIFT EVERY VOICE: THE BIDEN PLAN FOR BLACK AMERICA The Biden Plan for Black America will: Advance the economic mobility of African Americans and close the racial wealth and income gaps. Expand access to high-quality education and tackle racial inequity in our education system. Make...www.bgol.us
you didn't comment or vote...
now whats your problem with whats there???
THE UNTOLD STORY: JOE BIDEN PUSHED RONALD REAGAN TO RAMP UP INCARCERATION — NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND
Biden has argued that the focus on his 1994 crime bill as a driver of mass incarceration is misplaced. He’s right — it was his earlier push that was responsible.
Joe Biden Pushed Ronald Reagan to Ramp Up Incarceration
Joe Biden argues that the focus on his 1994 crime bill as a driver of mass incarceration is misplaced. He’s right: his earlier push is what was responsible.theintercept.com
Did you read through the actual policies?
Here are a few examples:
- Double funding for the State Small Business Credit Initiative. The Obama-Biden Administration created the State Small Business Credit Initiative (SSBCI) to support small businesses, driving $10 billion in new lending for each $1 billion in SSBCI funds. Biden will extend the program through 2025 and double its federal funding to $3 billion, driving close to $30 billion of private sector investments to small businesses all told, especially those owned by women and people of color.
- Expand the New Markets Tax Credit, make the program permanent, and double Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFI) funding. The New Markets Tax Credit has helped draw tens of billions of dollars in new capital to low-income communities, providing tax credits to investors in community development organizations that support everything from supermarkets to real estate projects to manufacturing plants. As part of his plan to reinvest in communities across the country, including in rural areas, Biden will also double funding for the Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFI) Fund, which supports local, mission-driven financial institutions in low-income areas around the U.S. This builds on Biden’s proposal to support entrepreneurs in small towns and rural areas by expanding both the Rural Microentrepreneur Assistance Program and the number of Rural Business Investment Companies, to help rural businesses attract capital.
- Making permanent the successful Community Advantage loan program, originally created during the Obama-Biden Administration. The program, which provides capital for startups and growing small businesses located in particularly underserved communities through CDFIs and other mission-driven lenders, has been run as a pilot program since 2011. Biden will make this program permanent and reverse rules enacted by the Trump Administration that are making it more difficult for lenders to participate in the program and lend to African American-owned businesses and other businesses located in underserved communities.
- Increase opportunities for African American-owned businesses to obtain or participate in federal contracts. In the aftermath of the 2008-2009 financial crisis, well over $100 billion of federal prime contracting dollars were awarded to minority-owned small businesses. And, between 2013 and 2016, the Obama-Biden Administration increased federal prime contract dollars going to Small Disadvantaged Businesses by nearly 30%, from $30.6 billion to $39.1 billion. The Obama-Biden Administration also created an Interagency Task Force on Federal Contracting Opportunities for Small Businesses, which included a focus on contracting opportunities for minority-owned businesses. The Obama-Biden Administration implemented its vision of more equitable access to federal contracts through a variety of channels, including by launching the Federal Procurement Center (FPC) as part of the Commerce Department’s Minority Business Development Agency (MBDA). The FPC, a first-of-its-kind program, helps minority-owned firms apply for and win federal government contracts. As President, Biden will build on these efforts to support the expansion of opportunities for minority-owned small businesses.
- Increase funding for the Minority Business Development Agency budget. MBDA plays a critical role in supporting the development and growth of minority-owned businesses around the country, as well as providing needed assistance to federal and state agencies so that they award minority-owned businesses procurement contracts. The Trump Administration has pushed for a 75% cut in MBDA’s budget. Biden would protect and call for increased funding for it.
- Make sure economic relief because of COVID-19 reaches the African American businesses that need it most. The first installment of the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) largely left out minority-owned businesses. The Center for Responsible Lending estimates that more than 90% of small businesses owned by people of color will not receive loans. The program is not taking into account the specific challenges that African American businesses face in accessing funding and complying with the program’s requirements. The financial institutions best positioned to help African American small businesses don’t have the systems to quickly deploy the funding in a first-come first-served approach. The second phase set aside $60 billion for community banks and CDFIs, as well as mid-sized banks, which can better serve smaller businesses and minority-owned firms. This is a good start, but more needs to be done:
- Reserve half of all the new PPP funds for small businesses with 50 employees or less, so the bigger and more well-connected aren’t able to win in a first-come, first-served race. While this will help the vast majority of small businesses, it should also help target more funding to minority-owned businesses, given 98% of all minority-and women-owned businesses have fewer than 50 employees.
- Produce a weekly dashboard to show which small businesses are accessing loans. Such a dashboard would help drive better data collection on the beneficiaries of small business support related to the COVID-19 epidemic, including in particular collecting data by gender and race, in order to ensure that the program isn’t leaving out communities, minority- and women-owned businesses, or the smallest businesses.
Trust me - Vernon Jones could not get elected dogcatcher in Georgia. And that was even before he went off the deep end.Well i saw in a video he said "2022. Feel the Vern". Do he already has a campaign slogan and year in mind. I totally forgot Warnock is not getting a six year term since he is replacing Isakson. He will have to run again next year. So putting 2 and 2 together sounds like that will be Vernon's goal.
That would be entertaining though. Watching white people have a meltdown having to choose between 2 black men
you said:I discussed it in other conversations.
Search through this plan and notice how often the terms “minority”, “women”, and “people of color” are used. Nothing about it is a Black-specific. But Trudeau’s plan is.
no the ball is in OUR court..do you want to see the plan enacted or NOT?But the ball is now in your court. Biden will be President and the Dems control Congress. Will they put the “Lift Every Voice” plan into effect?
You want to sit out until your demands are heard. Yet your demands won't be heard sitting out. No demands for republicans because black people don't vote for them, even though they have the power to make policy that affects black people. Don't demand anything from republicans because we don't vote for them, but they get voted out of office because they ignore black voters.Stop replying to yourself and go check the post I just made chi chi.
You want to sit out until your demands are heard. Yet your demands won't be heard sitting out. No demands for republicans because black people don't vote for them, even though they have the power to make policy that affects black people. Don't demand anything from republicans because we don't vote for them, but they get voted out of office because they ignore black voters.
only demand things from dems because that's who we vote for the most. Yet when republicans ignore you completely, complain about what dems didn't do in the past.
Did I miss anything?
you said:
but there are many sections that read
ADVANCE THE ECONOMIC MOBILITY OF AFRICAN AMERICANS AND CLOSE THE RACIAL WEALTH AND INCOME GAPS
Invest in African American Businesses and Entrepreneurs
Approximately 4% of small business owners are African American, even though African Americans make up approximately 13% of the population. To build wealth in African American communities, we must invest in the success of African American businesses and entrepreneurs.
Ensuring equal access to credit and capital. African American businesses often lack the capital they need to succeed. African American businesses are rejected at a rate nearly 20% higher than the white-owned firms. Even worse, African American businesses that do get funding receive only 40% of the funds requested as compared to 70% for white businesses. To increase investment and access to capital, Biden will:
Increase opportunities for African American-owned businesses to obtain or participate in federal contracts. In the aftermath of the 2008-2009 financial crisis, well over $100 billion of federal prime contracting dollars were awarded to minority-owned small businesses. And, between 2013 and 2016, the Obama-Biden Administration increased federal prime contract dollars going to Small Disadvantaged Businesses by nearly 30%, from $30.6 billion to $39.1 billion. The Obama-Biden Administration also created an Interagency Task Force on Federal Contracting Opportunities for Small Businesses, which included a focus on contracting opportunities for minority-owned businesses. The Obama-Biden Administration implemented its vision of more equitable access to federal contracts through a variety of channels, including by launching the Federal Procurement Center (FPC) as part of the Commerce Department’s Minority Business Development Agency (MBDA). The FPC, a first-of-its-kind program, helps minority-owned firms apply for and win federal government contracts. As President, Biden will build on these efforts to support the expansion of opportunities for minority-owned small businesses.
Increase funding for the Minority Business Development Agency budget. MBDA plays a critical role in supporting the development and growth of minority-owned businesses around the country, as well as providing needed assistance to federal and state agencies so that they award minority-owned businesses procurement contracts. The Trump Administration has pushed for a 75% cut in MBDA’s budget. Biden would protect and call for increased funding for it.
Protect small and disadvantaged businesses from federal and state contract bundling which often locks out African American-owned smaller firms from effectively bidding on procurement contracts. Biden will build on the anti-bundling provisions of the Small Business Jobs Act of 2010, by having the Office of Management and Budget, SBA, and MBDA conduct a government-wide review of existing contract bundling to determine whether agencies are following existing rules and whether agencies have the ability to further ensure small business participation in federal and state procurement opportunities.
Make sure economic relief because of COVID-19 reaches the African American businesses that need it most. The first installment of the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) largely left out minority-owned businesses. The Center for Responsible Lending estimates that more than 90% of small businesses owned by people of color will not receive loans. The program is not taking into account the specific challenges that African American businesses face in accessing funding and complying with the program’s requirements. The financial institutions best positioned to help African American small businesses don’t have the systems to quickly deploy the funding in a first-come first-served approach. The second phase set aside $60 billion for community banks and CDFIs, as well as mid-sized banks, which can better serve smaller businesses and minority-owned firms. This is a good start, but more needs to be done:
I get how you can see that the terms minority and POC can mean black specifically can get lost in the shuffle but quite frankly there isn't much thats different when class is factored in and its not like no other nonwhite groups get screwed over either. The Civil Rights struggle wasn't civil rights for just black people...we were the face of the struggles but others benefitted regardless.
You want to sit out until your demands are heard. Yet your demands won't be heard sitting out. No demands for republicans because black people don't vote for them, even though they have the power to make policy that affects black people. Don't demand anything from republicans because we don't vote for them, but they get voted out of office because they ignore black voters.
only demand things from dems because that's who we vote for the most. Yet when republicans ignore you completely, complain about what dems didn't do in the past.
Did I miss anything?
I’m saying they should make it a requirement of the candidate(s) they choose to vote for.
you didn't answer the question...do YOU want the plan to be enacted or not??Thank you. You’re proving my point.
you didn't answer the question...do YOU want the plan to be enacted or not??
Before or after the vote?
Both. Make the candidate state the agenda before voting and, if they get elected, follow-up and/or pressure them when they’re in office.
You know, what every other group and constituency demands of its politicians.
But the first part of that already happened this year and i dont remember you advocating for either candidate. Who did you support?
Not really...that pretty much sums up the entire argument. I believe you said you didn't vote. The majority of your responses to me in the past are some variation of 90% of black folk vote dem so we should demand more of them. When I ask about demanding more from republicans since they make policy too, it's some response about 90% again. When people bring up Trump, it's well Biden did xyz (often ignoring that he didn't' make those policies in a democratic bubble, republicans voted for that shit too). I'll make this easy. Bush 1 and 2 could have stopped/repealed all those bad "biden did it" laws....You missed the entire point.
so what are you going to do about it?In the context it is currently written in.....no.
I personally did not vote for Trump or Biden for the aforementioned reasons.
Its make it easier to criticize everyone...I didn't vote for either therefore I'm not a plantation negro nor a coon agent...I'm above it all and I look down on all of you fools for even participating in the system.....yet I have demands....how theyre going to get done is anybody's guess but dammit my position in this better than everyone elses...Not really...that pretty much sums up the entire argument. I believe you said you didn't vote. The majority of your responses to me in the past are some variation of 90% of black folk vote dem so we should demand more of them. When I ask about demanding more from republicans since they make policy too, it's some response about 90% again. When people bring up Trump, it's well Biden did xyz (often ignoring that he didn't' make those policies in a democratic bubble, republicans voted for that shit too). I'll make this easy. Bush 1 and 2 could have stopped/repealed all those bad "biden did it" laws....
You...but obama.....
What didn't I understand, ignore, didn't get,etc?
Not really...that pretty much sums up the entire argument. I believe you said you didn't vote. The majority of your responses to me in the past are some variation of 90% of black folk vote dem so we should demand more of them. When I ask about demanding more from republicans since they make policy too, it's some response about 90% again. When people bring up Trump, it's well Biden did xyz (often ignoring that he didn't' make those policies in a democratic bubble, republicans voted for that shit too). I'll make this easy. Bush 1 and 2 could have stopped/repealed all those bad "biden did it" laws....
You...but obama.....
What didn't I understand, ignore, didn't get,etc?
Happy, there I quoted youI personally did not vote for Trump or Biden for the aforementioned reasons.
It will me morning in Black America! Let the sunshine in!
So you thought Ice Cube was a fool for trying to address his agenda with the Trump administration?“I believe you said....”
As I told chichiman, quote what I actually said and not what YOU think or what YOU believe I said then arguing against that.
Now, common sense should tell you that the political leverage lies in the party that the vast majority of Black people vote for. So yes, Republicans make policy as well, but Black people have little to no leverage in that party, and, as a consequence, can’t sway its actions. And generally speaking, most of its policies are overtly hostile to Blsck interests. However, this is not the case for Black people’s relationship with the Democratic Party, where we can literally make or break a candidate.
You either understand this or you don’t. But guess what? Y’all won. Biden will be president with a Democratic-majority Congress. Every argument I’ve tried to make will start being rendered null and void beginning on January 20th, 2021 at noon.
It will me morning in Black America! Let the sunshine in!
Its make it easier to criticize everyone...I didn't vote for either therefore I'm not a plantation negro nor a coon agent...I'm above it all and I look down on all of you fools for even participating in the system.....yet I have demands....how theyre going to get done is anybody's guess but dammit my position in this better than everyone elses...
so what are you going to do about it?
Happy, there I quoted you
So what did you get for your vote?You claimed that I didn’t vote. I said I didn’t vote for Trump or Biden. No mention was made of other candidates or the rest of the ballot.
This is not only a red herring on your part but it’s straight-up disinformation.
Cubel lied and said no one from the DNC wanted to talk to him, then it became he wanted to talk to Biden and not Harris who actually reached out to him. Meanwhile, he was happy that anyone from the Trump administration was willing to talk to him. He damn sure didn't make demands that he only talk to Trump. So yeah, Cube played himself with that bullshit con he was running.No, neither candidate presented an agenda in good faith that I could support. Both had agendas that are hostile to Black ADOS interests. Why would I vote for either.
What else is there to do? We tried to alert everyone beforehand and got met with a cascade of slurs, from “Russian bot” to “agent” to everything in-between. So did others, like Ice Cube.
So now, we just have to let it play out over the next couple of years. When Black people stand up and say “What about us” to Biden and the Dems, and they turn around and give us their asses to kiss, all I can do is say “I told you so” but also “2022 is around the corner.”
I personally did not vote for Trump or Biden for the aforementioned reasons.
You've been asked multiple times did you vote and who you voted for, often ignoring the question. if you ever actually answered the second question, I never saw you response. So who did you vote for and why didn't you promote this person's agenda if he or she was worthy of your vote?You claimed that I didn’t vote. I said I didn’t vote for Trump or Biden. No mention was made of other candidates or the rest of the ballot.
This is not only a red herring on your part but it’s straight-up disinformation.
It's y'all looking for some magical politician. The rest of us work with what we got. Find one Biden voter on this board who actually believes that he was
1. the best the dems could do
2. expects all of black america's problems to go away, magically because he is in office.
who DID you suppose in the primary? And how do you expect to get your agenda across in the meantime until your dream candidate appears?No, neither candidate presented an agenda in good faith that I could support. Both had agendas that are hostile to Black ADOS interests. Why would I vote for either.
What else is there to do? We tried to alert everyone beforehand and got met with a cascade of slurs, from “Russian bot” to “agent” to everything in-between. So did others, like Ice Cube.
So now, we just have to let it play out over the next couple of years. When Black people stand up and say “What about us” to Biden and the Dems, and they turn around and give us their asses to kiss, all I can do is say “I told you so” but also “2022 is around the corner.”
What will sitting out the game accomplish?
who was the dream candidate we all missed??No, neither candidate presented an agenda in good faith that I could support. Both had agendas that are hostile to Black ADOS interests. Why would I vote for either.
What else is there to do? We tried to alert everyone beforehand and got met with a cascade of slurs, from “Russian bot” to “agent” to everything in-between. So did others, like Ice Cube.
So now, we just have to let it play out over the next couple of years. When Black people stand up and say “What about us” to Biden and the Dems, and they turn around and give us their asses to kiss, all I can do is say “I told you so” but also “2022 is around the corner.”
Obama ended up being the deporter in chief, so how did that work out for them? In the end guess what other minority group came out and voted for Biden, in spite of his less than perfect record with said group?If demanding a politician to pay attention to the specific needs of a constituency who saved his campaign twice and helped make his party the majority in Congress is “looking for a ‘magical politician’”, then there is nothing left to say to you. You simply don’t get it.
Would you make the same statement to undocumented immigrants who are seeking a pathway to citizenship? Are they looking for a “magical politician”? I mean, they’re technically criminals who have yet to be caught and prosecuted.
LOL..dude theres strong speculation he won't do a full term...I personally bet that harris takes over by 22...he wont get re-elected
You've been asked multiple times did you vote and who you voted for, often ignoring the question. if you ever actually answered the second question, I never saw you response. So who did you vote for and why didn't you promote this person's agenda if he or she was worthy of your vote?