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Picasso said:
Greatness no, legacy yes. Again, we just have differing opinions on the matter.

Kyrie wanted to get from under Lebron to lead his own team to the Finals and to championships. Playing with Lebron meant it’s Lebron’s team and that Kyrie wasn’t the one leading them to success.

Playing for the Warriors meant KD was playing on Steph’s team and that Steph was leading them to success. The success that they already had that KD cemented.
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It is no ones team. That is just barber shop talk. We all knew who the dominate one on the team was. Curry, Klay and Draymond just wanted to win and didn't care about anything other than that,.
 
Day_Carver said:
My 1st cuz is married to Charles Oakley, who is best friends with MJ by the way; I chill with Charles from time to time; tell me all types of stories as it relates to players in the NBA; he has mad respect from players; he says the same thing privately that nothing wrong with what KD did and none of the players that he hangs with and talks to look down on him for it; ill take his word over fans....
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No offense but Oakley’s wasn’t a star player, a franchise player and not a former MVP.

I’ll take a higher caliber players word before his.

Charles Barkley doesn’t like it that Kevin Durant is jumping on the Golden State Warriors‘ “gravy train” to win a title and said he doesn’t feel like a “bum” because he didn’t “cheat” his way to one in his career.

https://theundefeated.com/features/charles-barkley-doesnt-respect-kevin-durants-decision/amp/

But send your 1st cousin and Oakley my best...
 
Day_Carver said:
That whole whose team it is stupid, ask kyrie now about that; or ask Kobe after Shaq left and vice versa; it doesnt matter whose team it is; that is a fan and media notion that has been perpetuated for nothing other than debates....
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Shaq’s a bitchass nigga but “Whose Team” it is led to the breakup of his Magic and Lakers.

Whose team it is and who’s the man led to the break up of KG and Marbury and also KD and Russ.

You can keep talking about everything is “Fan & Media” talk but the truth is it exists.

Whose team it is led to the Heat not being as successful as they could’ve been their first year. But

But it’s all fan and media perpetuated so guess we can leave it at that.
 
Picasso said:
No offense but Oakley’s wasn’t a star player, a franchise player and not a former MVP.

I’ll take a higher caliber players word before his.

Charles Barkley doesn’t like it that Kevin Durant is jumping on the Golden State Warriors‘ “gravy train” to win a title and said he doesn’t feel like a “bum” because he didn’t “cheat” his way to one in his career.

https://theundefeated.com/features/charles-barkley-doesnt-respect-kevin-durants-decision/amp/

But send your 1st cousin and Oakley my best...
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Agreed Charles wasnt not a star player but Charles Barkley is an idiot; and Ill take MJ and others who Oakley constantly talk to over Barkley word; and actually Charles force his way out of Philly because he team sucked and he was tired of playing there; too a team in Phoenix who had ballers and another a few all stars; so that Charles Barkley shit is bullshit; Barkley also has a problem with players having control of their careers because the older players didnt; he resents that....
 
Day_Carver said:
Agreed Charles wasnt not a star player but Charles Barkley is an idiot; and Ill take MJ and others who Oakley constantly talk to over Barkley word; and actually Charles force his way out of Philly because he team sucked and he was tired of playing there; too a team in Phoenix who had ballers and another a few all stars; so that Charles Barkley shit is bullshit; Barkley also has a problem with players having control of their careers because the older players didnt; he resents that....
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Barkely’s definitely a hater who’s jealous! :lol:
 
Picasso said:
Shaq’s a bitchass nigga but “Whose Team” it is led to the breakup of his Magic and Lakers.

Whose team it is and who’s the man led to the break up of KG and Marbury and also KD and Russ.

You can keep talking about everything is “Fan & Media” talk but the truth is it exists.

Whose team it is led to the Heat not being as successful as they could’ve been their first year. But

But it’s all fan and media perpetuated so guess we can leave it at that.
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I agree Shaq is a bitch ass; there is only one truth which is KD has 2 rings, mvps, finals mvps, top scorer ever, and will go down as an all time great; that is the truth; everything else is fan fodder....
 
Picasso said:
Barkely’s definitely a hater who’s jealous! :lol:
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I get the KD hate because he basically formed the perfect team with GS; so I get it; but I dont think for a minute it tarnishes his legacy; and the reason is because teams have been forming super teams since forever; the only difference now is players are more in control and fans dont like it; its very much a weird mentality; its like fans dont want to see players calling the shots; but in the todays NBA that is whats happening and it will continue....
 
Picasso said:
Apparently so’s

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And I like Klay, but one low blow deserves another...
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This was a good one.

*high five*
 
Day_Carver said:
Actually he only missed like the last 2 weeks or so after they were out of the playoff race but nice try...
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He missed more than 2 weeks

and the team wasn’t ready yet, still had to see if he wanted to run with the pups OR game shark mod.

see we TRADED for Unibrow, he didn’t just join via fag agency.

gutted our whole team and took a gamble and won

I still haven’t seen curry in the playoffs
 
spider705 said:
I'll just say it.

The Stephen Curry Golden State Warriors HAVE TO make the playoffs.

I won't go as far as to say it'll invalidate his career or his championships if he doesn't, but for a player that's considered a top 20 - 30 all time to be unable to lead his team to the playoffs (a 7 or 8 seed at minimum) without the help of other all star caliber players is not a good look.

I hope he can do it. I'm pulling for the kid to make it happen.
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Nigga Curry is Top 1 all time

he beat Lebron over and over and over.

nobody better than the Chef
 
Day_Carver said:
I get the KD hate because he basically formed the perfect team with GS; so I get it; but I dont think for a minute it tarnishes his legacy; and the reason is because teams have been forming super teams since forever; the only difference now is players are more in control and fans dont like it; its very much a weird mentality; its like fans dont want to see players calling the shots; but in the todays NBA that is whats happening and it will continue....
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I want players to control their legacies, I want player to go wherever they want to go. I don’t “Hate” on anyone, but I will speak on what a player chooses to do.

If Giannis went to the Jazz, Pistons, Pelican, Hornets etc it’d be cool and there’d be no issues.

If he went to the Lakers (My team), it’d kinda be considered a bitch move just like if he went to the Warriors with a fully healthy Klay.

But I’m just a fan, what do I know? :dunno:
 
Picasso said:
I want players to control their legacies, I want player to go wherever they want to go. I don’t “Hate” on anyone, but I will speak on what a player chooses to do.

If Giannis went to the Jazz, Pistons, Pelican, Hornets etc it’d be cool and there’d be no issues.

If he went to the Lakers (My team), it’d kinda be considered a bitch move just like if he went to the Warriors with a fully healthy Klay.

But I’m just a fan, what do I know? :dunno:
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You a Fakers fan?

Makes sense now.
 
spider705 said:
Clarify winners...

Because nowhere did i say Steph needed to win a chip with these guys... I'm talking playoffs
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You definitely have your opinion but this reminds me of an old saying. You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken shit. At the end of the day someone else will have to make a bucket.
 
gene cisco said:
No as far as steph is concerned, because Lebron is in the GOAT convo, is he not? One of the arguments we make FOR Lebron is that he has done more with less. Golden state was a great team. That Cavs team isn't making the playoffs without Lebron. It's just not.

And at the same time, I see how Lebron saying that opens him up to shit talking from those who think Jordan is the GOAT. Damn right they should go in. Kareem fans the same thing. But anyone else shouldn't have shit to say.
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So.
Lebron is in that conversation so he can do what he wants and nobody better not say shit?? Lol

Cause after 5 games everyone said shit about a dude who won 2 nba MVPs and 3 rings saying if he don't do shit now his whole career means nothing and according to you he shouldn't defend himself or his legacy when ppl say that wild shit.

The argument has never been about who's the goat or who's better or who's anything. It's the cult like reaction to anyone who dare defends themselves and if you speak his name you get attacked.

That's so wild and weird.
Dame lillard felt he had enough of anything to talk about steph curry and where was this outrage???

It didn't exist.

Why can a dude who never beat Steph in the playoffs say shit?

And by never I don't mean series I mean game. Steph is 11-0 against him but can speak on him and his game and Everything else why?

It's wild corny what the basketball discussions have become

And I imagine it would have been the same if this medium existed during jordans time.
 
largebillsonlyplease said:
So.
Lebron is in that conversation so he can do what he wants and nobody better not say shit?? Lol

Cause after 5 games everyone said shit about a dude who won 2 nba MVPs and 3 rings saying if he don't do shit now his whole career means nothing and according to you he shouldn't defend himself or his legacy when ppl say that wild shit.

The argument has never been about who's the goat or who's better or who's anything. It's the cult like reaction to anyone who dare defends themselves and if you speak his name you get attacked.

That's so wild and weird.
Dame lillard felt he had enough of anything to talk about steph curry and where was this outrage???

It didn't exist.

Why can a dude who never beat Steph in the playoffs say shit?

And by never I don't mean series I mean game. Steph is 11-0 against him but can speak on him and his game and Everything else why?

It's wild corny what the basketball discussions have become

And I imagine it would have been the same if this medium existed during jordans time.
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We gotta address Dame eventually... he can't keep skating by on a couple of big shots turned gif images

 
Picasso said:
I feel you, I definitely can’t put all the blame on him for the losses, also the offense does need to run the ball through him.
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It's easy
That's all I ask

If he has the ball and doesn't and can't produce now that he has it that's a conversation we can have

But we have years of sample size showing before kerr and during kerr that if you just give him the ball
He will get it done more times than not.

E.g. entire wcf where he swept the blazers dropping 36/8/7 on Dame

And the series before where the rockets shut down the motion offense by switching giving curry 0 in the first half and then put the ball in his hands where he dropped 33 and closed them out on the road


We see what can happen if the arrogance of the coach doesn't.

Now there shouldnt be another game this year where he isn't free to do his thing like he was before kerr game

How much you want to bet he goes back to the bullshit cause it's about him more than it's about winning?
Smh
 

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