Debate: Tiffany Haddish Turned Down Grammys Pre-Show Hosting Gig Due to Lack of Compensation UPDATE: Apology!

When the label "pays" it is the artist that is paying.
The label bills the artist. I have heard artists complain about award shows and how they pay for it and dont get sales after.
Now if you are an artist with a positive outlook you know all publicity is good publicity and you could do a show or 2 and recoup.

To an extent. It can be negotiated as to where the money comes from. Depending on the size of the artist they could be on the hook for half or nothing. If they have a branding partner or 5 then, they pay nothing. There are people that work at the label's whose whole job is to get those partnerships for all these events. But like I said that's on the music side. As far as artists complaining about paying for the show and not getting a sales bump, possibly, but then their project was probably already in trouble because a label generally won't pay to lose.
 
Dude pretty much said he was unaware of the policy.. so it wasn’t the awards fault it was his fault for bookin her without knowing the policy.. she wanted something that no other people get.. grammys stuck to their guns, the unaware dude think the policy is wrong but it’s how it’s been ran for yrs and tiff expected more but it wasn’t gonna happen

I hear you but maybe it needs to change now. Can’t blame a sister for asking for something when all them honkies getting paid off her ass. She big enough now that she don’t need them to push her along. Just my opinion though. I’m a performer who gets paid to perform but you want it for free? All FREE? Nah, they wanted it to be one way...
 
it wasn't about paying her it was about her accommodations to do the job.

if someone asks you to do whatever usually they provide transportation, food lodging etc so all you have to do is show up and do the JOB they asked you to do..

in this case she was told to provide her own hair and make up etc for the position. When she questioned it they told her its a volunteer thing done for a not for profit organization that could be used to boost her exposure.she said I got enough exposure thanks but no thanks.

That all should be inclusive I agree. But they will do things to minimize a rising star (That's not one of them) just to label them. "She's black and difficult to work with."I can see some exec saying do we really want her?

None of that is her fault but they'll look to label her anyway. Its the games they play. I'm really hoping she wasn't the one who made this public knowledge.

Truth is there should be no award night. Hundreds gathered to sit in an arena for hours. But before that, we've got meet and greets, photo ops, the hours of awards, performances then after all that after award parties.
 
Dude pretty much said he was unaware of the policy.. so it wasn’t the awards fault it was his fault for bookin her without knowing the policy.. she wanted something that no other people get.. grammys stuck to their guns, the unaware dude think the policy is wrong but it’s how it’s been ran for yrs and tiff expected more but it wasn’t gonna happen
the "unaware" is the president of the organization. Do you think that after that public apology any celeb asked after tiffany is gonna do it for no accommodations? Or do you think a precedent has been set?
 
I hear you but maybe it needs to change now. Can’t blame a sister for asking for something when all them honkies getting paid off her ass. She big enough now that she don’t need them to push her along. Just my opinion though. I’m a performer who gets paid to perform but you want it for free? All FREE? Nah, they wanted it to be one way...
I have to say its NOT about her getting paid its about the accommodations for her time and presence....

You said your a performer...if an NFP organization asked you to perform for them but they can't pay you and your ok with that but then that tell you oh nd you have to drive yourself, provide your own make up (if necessary) and eat before you get here... so they ain't picking up, providing dressing room prep help and no food...you just show up dressed and prepped and ready to rock on your own and thank you very much...

BUT the exposure can boost you (you're already well established).....are you still doing the gig??
 
the "unaware" is the president of the organization. Do you think that after that public apology any celeb asked after tiffany is gonna do it for no accommodations? Or do you think a precedent has been set?
Big biz tends to find the right people to always go with the plan.. so when 1 won’t do it 5 others will.. I can see them finding a hungrier person willing to do it for future
 
I hear you but maybe it needs to change now. Can’t blame a sister for asking for something when all them honkies getting paid off her ass. She big enough now that she don’t need them to push her along. Just my opinion though. I’m a performer who gets paid to perform but you want it for free? All FREE? Nah, they wanted it to be one way...
Always a hungrier person willing to do it.. so they probably will find them.. throw them 1 of them 30,000 dollar gift bags that shut them up
 
Big biz tends to find the right people to always go with the plan.. so when 1 won’t do it 5 others will.. I can see them finding a hungrier person willing to do it for future
well the media fucked up by reporting she was complaining about not getting paid when she was complaining about not getting any basic accommodations for doing it. Those are 2 different things. If the question is have previous people ever been PAID to host the pre show and work the red carpet the answer they've said is NO...if the question is have previous people had to provide their own basic accommodations like hair and make up etc to host the preshow and work the red carpet the answer is we don't know because no one else has chimed in and said they did it and got no accommodations.

If a past celeb says I worked it and no they didn't give me shit to do it...then she's wrong
But if a past celeb says I worked it before but they gave me hair and makeup and what not...then some bullshit was up.

I have a hard time believing ellen and Chris rock drove themselves and paid for their own hair and makeup especially when those things for the host are unsung duties...the most any host is going to get is exposure for their outfit..ain't nobody askin who did your hair and makeup. So that's totally coming out your pocket at your expense and it ain't cheap to do that shit for a high profile event youre NOT getting paid to work.
 
well the media fucked up by reporting she was complaining about not getting paid when she was complaining about not getting any basic accommodations for doing it. Those are 2 different things. If the question is have previous people ever been PAID to host the pre show and work the red carpet the answer they've said is NO...if the question is have previous people had to provide their own basic accommodations like hair and make up etc to host the preshow and work the red carpet the answer is we don't know because no one else has chimed in and said they did it and got no accommodations.

If a past celeb says I worked it and no they didn't give me shit to do it...then she's wrong
But if a past celeb says I worked it before but they gave me hair and makeup and what not...then some bullshit was up.

I have a hard time believing ellen and Chris rock drove themselves and paid for their own hair and makeup especially when those things for the host are unsung duties...the most any host is going to get is exposure for their outfit..ain't nobody askin who did your hair and makeup. So that's totally coming out your pocket at your expense and it ain't cheap to do that shit for a high profile event youre NOT getting paid to work.
First off she was a pre-host.. not the same level as starring as the main host..Ellen and Chris rock was the main..so main prob got preferable treatment as far as hair and makeup being that it was the top gig.. the pre-host is a secondary position and prob dosent get the same treatment.. notice nobody who played that role is coming out saying they had all that giving to them... like I said if you know the inner workings of entertainment ull be surprised on what they don’t receive and make..people assume they making a lot of money or giving red carpet treatment at certain gigs but they don’t.. many front cover appearances, performances, Hostings they get paid nothing.. notice you are under the assumption she was supposed to receive certain things but it’s not the case.. notice most pre-host use to be random acts happy to get that spot lite .. some were just pretty faces wanting shine, some were up and commers, some new the politics and followed them hoping for network opportunities and things to boast about on their resume... like I said 30,000 gift bag, networking, FaceTime, free food, after parties... next yr they’ll be like fuck that let’s holla at that dude big jah from them YouTube clips he’s funny and will appreciate the spotlite to plug his channel and get these free gifts.. that’s how big biz works
 
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