Agreed. It is tough seeing him in this role. I kept waiting for a punchline. But the last couple of episodes have me seeing him in his character.
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Agreed. It is tough seeing him in this role. I kept waiting for a punchline. But the last couple of episodes have me seeing him in his character.
i kind of want to stop watching now. Something needs to happen to one of them cacs next episode, and not some flunky.
I think he knew he was gonna die before he even left the shop.
Notice the way he said thanks to the waitress. It was really goodbye.
i still can’t get around it, and i want to so bad. It’s the voice and facial expressions. I can’t take him serious as a boss. Would rather him and Dr.Senator switched roles. Don’t get me wrong he delivered those monologues to his wife and the cop but i still wasn’t completely sold
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I HEAR you...
and you right. which is surprising cause some the best actors who just LOSE THEMSELVES in a role are comedic
Jim Carrey, Sasha Baron cohen, the brother on American gods, even Sandler...
Its his VOICE that is so damn distinctive. If he could have had an accent or spoke slower or deeper
SOMETHING it would have been helpful
but like I said when he went off on the wife?
Oh he wasn't acting he was using some homegrown knowledge!
And you FELT the energy.
but to be fair?
I was a little disappointed OVERALL in the first episodes
because EVERYONE tried WAY toward to be kooky weird crazy quirky
and mind you I''m a Cohen brothers diehard.
they seem to have settled down.
^^^^
he would NOT have left that sister there ALONE with those animals unless he KNEW what was going to happen
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This podcast has been an interesting listen the past month. The 2 co-hosts think this season is a modern take / loose interpretation on the Wizard of Oz, of sorts with dad Thurman mentioning reading it with Ethelrida in that 1st or 2nd ep ...
- Ethelrida = Dorothy
- Oraetta Mayflower = Wicked Witch
- Wizard of Oz = America (pulling the strings)
- They are still piecing together Scarecrow, Tinman, and Cowardly Lion ... but they are thinking Rabbi Milligan & Odis Weff ... and so on ...
- Ethelrida = Dorothy
- Oraetta Mayflower = Wicked Witch
- Wizard of Oz = America (pulling the strings)
- They are still piecing together Scarecrow, Tinman, and Cowardly Lion ... but they are thinking Rabbi Milligan & Odis Weff ... and so on ...
- Chris Rock as Loy Cannon[12]
- Jessie Buckley as Oraetta Mayflower[12]
- Jason Schwartzman as Josto Fadda[12]
- Ben Whishaw as Rabbi Milligan[12]
- Jack Huston as Odis Weff[12]
- Salvatore Esposito as Gaetano Fadda[12]
- E'myri Crutchfield as Ethelrida Pearl Smutny[12]
- Andrew Bird as Thurman Smutny[12]
- Anji White as Dibrell Smutny[12]
- Jeremie Harris as Leon Bittle[12]
- Matthew Elam as Lemuel Cannon[13]
- Corey Hendrix as Omie Sparkman[13]
- James Vincent Meredith as Opal Rackley
- Francesco Acquaroli as Ebal Violante[12]
- Gaetano Bruno as Constant Calamita[12]
- Stephen Spencer as Dr. David Harvard
- Karen Aldridge as Zelmare Roulette[14]
- Judy Garland as Dorothy Gale
- Frank Morgan as (in order of appearance) Professor Marvel/The Gatekeeper/The Carriage Driver/The Guard/The Wizard of Oz
- Ray Bolger as "Hunk" / The Scarecrow
- Jack Haley as "Hickory" / The Tin Man
- Bert Lahr as "Zeke" / The Cowardly Lion
- Billie Burke as Glinda
- Margaret Hamilton as Miss Almira Gulch / The Wicked Witch of the West
- Charley Grapewin as Uncle Henry
- Pat Walshe as Nikko the Winged Monkey King
- Clara Blandick as Auntie Em
- Terry as Toto
- Mitchell Lewis as the Winkie Guard Captain (credited only in the IMAX version)
- Adriana Caselotti as the voice of Juliet in the Tin Man's song "If I Only Had a Heart" (uncredited)[14]
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Gloria
10/19/20 1:13am
Gaetano is so cartoonish at this point that it is truly ridiculous and embarrassing for this show. And the fact that his dumb crony Calamita killed Doctor Senator really boils my blood. I’m gonna miss Doc; at least he got the nice Fargo music send-off. Someone called it last week saying that the Cannon crew letting Calamita live was going to bite them.
DKesserich
10/19/20 2:41am
It was when Gaetano gets out of the car and is waving his hands around to the music that I realized that he’s like a Jack Black version of a dangerous mafioso. And the instant that thought popped into my head, Gaetano eats shit on the ice.
And thinking about it more, I think maybe they wanted Black for the role and couldn’t get him? Jack Black feels like a more natural brother for Jason Schwartzman from a casting and acting energy perspective.
pkellen2313
I need to hear an interview with that actor in which he explains what, exactly, he’s going for. Not since AJ Soprano have I seen a performance where I could definitively say, “Well, that guy is never going to work again.”
GloriaDKesserich
10/19/20 10:33am
It was cringey watching the scene when he slips on the ice and also him crazily eating the ice cream sundae. It’s like the actor watched the Heath Ledger and Joaquin Phoenix versions of the Joker and decided he was going to try to be a bad over-the-top version of them mixed together (when Gaetano moves along to the music it reminded me of Joaquin’s Joker dancing down the stairs).
Gloria
10/19/20 1:13am
Gaetano is so cartoonish at this point that it is truly ridiculous and embarrassing for this show. And the fact that his dumb crony Calamita killed Doctor Senator really boils my blood. I’m gonna miss Doc; at least he got the nice Fargo music send-off. Someone called it last week saying that the Cannon crew letting Calamita live was going to bite them.
DKesserich
10/19/20 2:41am
It was when Gaetano gets out of the car and is waving his hands around to the music that I realized that he’s like a Jack Black version of a dangerous mafioso. And the instant that thought popped into my head, Gaetano eats shit on the ice.
And thinking about it more, I think maybe they wanted Black for the role and couldn’t get him? Jack Black feels like a more natural brother for Jason Schwartzman from a casting and acting energy perspective.
pkellen2313
I need to hear an interview with that actor in which he explains what, exactly, he’s going for. Not since AJ Soprano have I seen a performance where I could definitively say, “Well, that guy is never going to work again.”
GloriaDKesserich
10/19/20 10:33am
It was cringey watching the scene when he slips on the ice and also him crazily eating the ice cream sundae. It’s like the actor watched the Heath Ledger and Joaquin Phoenix versions of the Joker and decided he was going to try to be a bad over-the-top version of them mixed together (when Gaetano moves along to the music it reminded me of Joaquin’s Joker dancing down the stairs).
Thing is, you don’t come into money in a Coen story and live.
*****
Milligan is getting interesting, which I like because I have liked Whishaw since Layer Cake. I’m anxious to see what transpires when Oraetta finds the notebook Ethelrida left in her trophy closet last week. You’d think a smart young lady like Ethelrida would have realized that she’d left the notebook there. And what was Oraetta’s head-banging thing?
Nice twist the outlaw lesbians going to work for Cannon. Agree that filling out Odis’s backstory as a minesweeper in France makes him a little more intriguing, though I can’t figure out how Loy Cannon had access to that information.
*****
I guess she was just banging her head to come up with a plan to poison Ethelrida’s birthday cake. I thought she was doing something sexual in the room, due to the moaning.
*****
It’s a prime example of her reflection from what would be an annoyance to people into a straight forward willingness to self-harm. She isn’t lightly banging her head out of irritation, she’s SLAMMING her skull into the wall. Those are classic signs of spectrum behavior and signs of mental illness playing out. I think it’s a bit abrupt to see it but it definitely plays into her reality, that she isn’t a killer for power or money, she’s a killer for joy and a deep sense of wrong is in her soul.
*****
Milligan is getting interesting, which I like because I have liked Whishaw since Layer Cake. I’m anxious to see what transpires when Oraetta finds the notebook Ethelrida left in her trophy closet last week. You’d think a smart young lady like Ethelrida would have realized that she’d left the notebook there. And what was Oraetta’s head-banging thing?
Nice twist the outlaw lesbians going to work for Cannon. Agree that filling out Odis’s backstory as a minesweeper in France makes him a little more intriguing, though I can’t figure out how Loy Cannon had access to that information.
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I guess she was just banging her head to come up with a plan to poison Ethelrida’s birthday cake. I thought she was doing something sexual in the room, due to the moaning.
*****
Mental illness.
It’s a prime example of her reflection from what would be an annoyance to people into a straight forward willingness to self-harm. She isn’t lightly banging her head out of irritation, she’s SLAMMING her skull into the wall. Those are classic signs of spectrum behavior and signs of mental illness playing out. I think it’s a bit abrupt to see it but it definitely plays into her reality, that she isn’t a killer for power or money, she’s a killer for joy and a deep sense of wrong is in her soul.
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OK
Chris Rock...
THAT was when you disappeared
And turned into Loy
Chris Rock...
THAT was when you disappeared
And turned into Loy
Stone cold killers always the most religious
The nurse really DUMB ENOUGH to think the letter would be signed?
She a nurse the secretary wouldn't notice she aint help at all?
They can't raise to our level
So they have to drag us down to theirs.
Its a trap
So they have to drag us down to theirs.
Its a trap
I KNEW they were gonna steal the credit card idea
Chris really needed this episode to establish himself as Loy
Its already done
He just aint lying down yet
He just aint lying down yet
Is the native american girl somehow related to hanzee dent??
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Something is very off about this season. Fargo seasons are typically about a person or family that get interwove into a crime or crime family. This season feels like the story about the crime families with a ordinary family thrown in just "because". There is usually a series of weird events or a weird "tale" from Noah Hawley's own description of the word "Fargo".
I think i am an episode behind but nothing in this season feel irregular to me.
I think i am an episode behind but nothing in this season feel irregular to me.
That would be an interesting tie-in.
Swanee Capps as a relative of Hanzee Dent's (from season 2).
Still trying to figure out if Loy's son becomes Mike Milligan later in life (close ties w/ Rabbi Milligan and all).
All I know is that Kelsey from Yellowstone / Fargo is fine as fuck ...
That would be an interesting tie-in.
Swanee Capps as a relative of Hanzee Dent's (from season 2).
Still trying to figure out if Loy's son becomes Mike Milligan later in life (close ties w/ Rabbi Milligan and all).
All I know is that Kelsey from Yellowstone / Fargo is fine as fuck ...
It just seems like too much of a coincidence
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