Wendell Pierce says "#ADOS is divide and conquer bullshit!"

There are no ADOS beefing on BGOL. Its just black immigrants are worried because they realize Biden isnt gonna save them and theyve completely alienated themselves from the bulk of Black America speaking against ADOS and reparations. Nobody sees black immigrant groups as Black Americans anymore. That hustle died, they gotta fight for their own group like all the other immigrants do.
Who in here has spoken against reparations? And yes, I see several DOAS fighting against each other.
 
It's divisive. And the brand was created for this purpose. Whoever is pulling the strings won. Reparations is a distant side effect. Just on BGOL alone you have DOAS fighting against each other.
Defending or fighting. I don’t see why ados would have anything to say to non ados about it.
 
Mr. Met, veritech/voyeur, Drayonis, walter panov, mangobob, and Dr Truth, among others.

Not to mention all on social media for 2 years, there have been articles by black immigrants written against it, appearances on TV, etc. Black immigrants are divisive when it comes to reparations and our lineage. Just calling ourselves American and acknowledging our history prior to their naturalization makes them openly hostile towards us. Their dissaproval of us self identifying and putting boundaries up is a very White American friendly stance. Very beneficial to the US WS. Coincidence? :idea:
 
People are being intentionally obtuse about this just like they are with illegal immigration. :smh: The Black middle class has been decimated in large part due to illegal immigration and yet, we are biggest defenders of it. :smh: :lol:

As for the Russians and calling people you disagree with bots/agents etc., I am a student of history. These are leaflets the communists distributed during the Korean War.

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Does the fact that the communists said any of it make it invalid or untrue? Propaganda is only effective when it contains large kernels of truth...
Man. Other countries been dropping leaflets to black troops since planes were invented. :eek: Shit is easy. Just speak the truth of how black Americans were treated back home. Only lie was saying that we'd be treated better on the other side. But hey, to my cheating husband analogy, cats use the same promise to get that pussy. Enemies of the U.S. been using the 'shoulder to cry on' game for a looooooong time.

The folks who talk all that Russian shit don't know history. They only know what the white liberals and MSM tell them. They about to be wearing rainbow print yoga pants and speaking Spanish, but hey, SOME white people are upset so it's a win. :hmm: Cacs actually scared that the 'propaganda'(truth) and foreign threat will force their hands like during Civil Rights.

What's worse is that the same hippies control social media, so ADOS movement has a huge uphill battle. Fools letting these hippie cacs trick them into supporting censorship/deplatforming and then when ADOS movement is labeled 'hate' or some other bullshit, it will be censored. Checkmate peasants. Also, the right wing NOW also plays the role of foreign powers in that they point out how bad black folks getting pimped. They ain't doing 'shoulder to cry on' game, they just laughing. :smh:Shit is a mess.

Any fucking time folks talk that Russian shit about ADOS movement they should be directed to the Angela Davis thread so their fucking heads can explode. :lol: Nothing but praise, and she was DEEP in the game with them.

Ain't no reason to attack the other side in a hostile manner IMHO. Just drop facts and watch the jujitsu-like attempts at deflection. One of my favorites is :eek: "so what's the plan" as if they ain't been laid out 1000000000 times. Just willfully ignorant and refuse to cut the muppet strings.
 
It hasnt been explained to me, at all. We are 10% at best of the black population. We cant stand in the way of anything. We mostly vote alongside you, to be honest. So if reparations is what you fighting for, at best we will be allies, at worst we will be inconsequential.

I certainly wouldn't call that riding coattails but ok. I think it would be riding coattails if we got shit handed to us, but as you said its not the case.

I deeply appreciate what your ancestors went through and the wars they fought, but i cant make a life for myself based on civil rights act laws alone. I completely understand that had they not fought those battles, this country wouldnt be a desirable destination for us black immigrants. I hope thats not lost to any of us.
I didn't know you weren't from here. Now I see your take on this. Saying riding coattails directly to you is offensive. I can acknowledge that. My bad. That's some closed doors shit shouldn't be said directly to an immigrant. Should have said 'benefit.'

I can admit how things are sometimes presented is divisive. I used divisive language in this thread with you. If I were saying this as public policy, I'd use more careful wording to get my message across about ADOS movement and the relationship to black immigrants. Presentation is everything. I'm bullshitting in the barbershop.

I often make the point about Obama and white privilege. He may say that shit behind closed doors, but never used that term out in public while campaigning or in office. And it worked. He was able to bring up systemic racism WITHOUT alienating whites. ADOS movement can function without publicly saying things that can alienate black immigrant as allies. At the same time, we should expect black immigrants not to prop up the political system and undercut the efforts.

Again, we in the barbershop here, so it's rough around the edges. The movement needs polished spokespeople who understand politics and that perception matters. See how I just listened to you when you said 'I wouldn't call that riding coattails'? I didn't tell you what to feel. I take you at your word. Benefit is a word I think we both can agree on.
 
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Lol....y’all are desperate now.

And no one you named savaged you harder than Bunk just did on a bigger platform no less.

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You act like this fat nigga is Denzel or something! And he's getting "savaged" in his replies!

 
Who in here has spoken against reparations? And yes, I see several DOAS fighting against each other.

Nobody has. I've always supported reparations for black folks (black Americans) it's owed 100%. I've always doubted that the most racist country on the planet would ever pay them though (as we stand today with race relations) doubting racist ass America "will pay" is a far cry from thinking black Americans don't deserve them. They hear what they want to hear.
 
BULLSHIT. Not one of them has ever spoken against reparations.

@KingTaharqa
Let's look at Mr. Met's history. Keep in mind that he was posting these sideways swipes at reparations YEARS ago, way before ADOS became a hot social media topic. That should tell you everything you need to know about him.



 
That ain't what he's saying. Those so called ADOS spend more time and energy picking fights with other black folk then they do fighting for reparations.
Correct!

The people behind it are gafflin the movement with petty shit.

I understand why he says its a divide & conquer strategy because it excludes non Americans, but the only reason it is called American Descendents of Slaves is because the movement specifically seeks tangigles from American Government.
Not meant to divorce us from our bredren in Caribbean, or Britain
 
That ain't what he's saying. Those so called ADOS spend more time and energy picking fights with other black folk then they do fighting for reparations.

Yet its perfectly fine Nigerians to claim a tribe or for a Ghanian to speak one of their 400 native languages. The Jews can be untied by the holocaust and slavery in Egypt but its stupid for slave descendants to be united by that common event that lasted longer than both those events.

Yet im supposed to subscribe to a white concept called BLACK and its non descriptive stereotypes? When are you other going to stop claiming Carribean or African heritages/tribes/nations.

Im supposed put my trust in a bunch of descendants of people who sold my ancestors and currently wont give me citizenship to thier 3rd world countries because they are scared of losing control of a already fucked up situation?

Are you fucking insane. Im supposed to be some non descriptive COLORED person with no recognition of their heritage. Fuck you and the boat your parents came on.
 
Its leadership can be divisive with how it steers the movement.
They seriously may need to hand the reigns over to some other more qualified & competent people

Our lineage doesnt have leaders, just voices. Who is the leader of Haitians? Jamaicans? Nigerians?



Period. So in a nutshell, BGOL did not and does not support reparations to ADOS. Getting Joe Biden elected is a bigger deal here.
 
I'm not voting for a politician to save me, I'm voting for a politician that will leave me alone, won't screw with black folks and deliberately target us and encourage their supporters to do so as well.

And that's trash lol.
The bar is so low hey you don't have to help me at all just please stop targeting me. Please just leave me alone so I can try and make it in this racist system.
It's trash that's all we can hope to get.
 
Bajan immigrant that moved here as a teen. Served in the US military and loves taking orders from cacs. Now dictating to us what we should call ourselves.
Bruh, its not about what we call ourselves, its about who we're seeking reparations from. The American government.

You want the American government to pay reparations to black people of other countries?

It ain't about dividing the people, which are of several nationalities, its about getting this money wheel moving so other countries will follow suit & pay all black people in their country too
 
@VAiz4hustlaz in 2 years the only non ADOS on this board to make a legit thread entertaining reparations to ADOS is @Spectrum. Black immigrants and non ADOS arent willing to mess their relationships up with White America by demanding they pay us reparations. We have long term posters that post about ADOS athletes, music and actors, marvel movies, etc, 100s of times a day but have never made 1 post promoting reparations.

They dont push our issues so we free to no longer push theirs.
 
Our lineage doesnt have leaders, just voices. Who is the leader of Haitians? Jamaicans? Nigerians?



Period. So in a nutshell, BGOL did not and does not support reparations to ADOS. Getting Joe Biden elected is a bigger deal here.

We are not in disagreement. I'm all for reparations. I'm all for ADOS.
I'm just not in approval of how petty Tone & Yvette are with how they go after people.
 
Bruh, its not about what we call ourselves, its about who we're seeking reparations from. The American government.

You want the American government to pay reparations to black people of other countries?

It ain't about dividing the people, which are of several nationalities, its about getting this money wheel moving so other countries will follow suit & pay all black people in their country too

Im not worried about other countries or their reparations fights. Let those oppressed do the same work we doing in their respective countries. We owe no one but ourselves. Mofos are 95% of the population in they country. We 13% in ours and slave descendants but its on us to save them? :lol: They should be embarrassed.
 
Im not worried about other countries or their reparations fights. Let those oppressed do the same work we doing in their respective countries. We owe no one but ourselves. Mofos are 95% of the population in they country. We 13% in ours and slave descendants but its on us to save them? :lol: They should be embarrassed.
I agree with you! But focusing on excluding them more than the goal is divisive and distracting
 
I agree with you! But focusing on excluding them more than the goal is divisive and distracting

How so? Our movement is bigger today than it was a year ago. Exposing immigrant coonery helped it grow.

Pan Africanism taught you to see yourself as lesser brother thats why you feel you "need" them. I promise you Mr. Met, Drayonis, and the others dont feel a need to share or look out for you. Your low cultural self esteem has you prioritizing others before yourself, a holdover from slavery.
 
How so? Our movement is bigger today than it was a year ago. Exposing immigrant coonery helped it grow.

Pan Africanism taught you to see yourself as lesser brother thats why you feel you "need" them. I promise you Mr. Met, Drayonis, and the others dont feel a need to share or look out for you. Your low cultural self esteem has you prioritizing others before yourself, a holdover from slavery.
Huh? My focus isn't on distinguishing myself from others that look like me, my focus is on reparations. In order to get that from the American government, we need to make sure to let them know who they will be paying funds to exactly.

I'm not sure why you mentioned Drayonis, me and him cool and as far as I know he's for reparations too.
 



And this is all I meant from jump.
Something made him holler about being associated with African Americans.
He's strong in his haitian roots WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL
and at the same time is saying "I'm not like them"
MY FAMILY bootstrapped it. We ain't victims of that shit y'all hollering about.

Well Wendell. Mine was.

Ok, this need to be delved into.
Descendents of slaves in America need to be included, no matter how long they were enslaved, no matter where they came from, no matter how they got here.

I dont agree that those Haitians, that he's referring to that came to Louisiana after their Haitian revolution, should be discredited or excluded from the ADOS movement.
 
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