Prominent black NC Bishop Patrick Wooden says Kamala Harris ‘ain’t good for black folk’

Slavery predates religion by thousands of years and was practiced on ALL parts of the earth. How can that be an excuse to single out Christianity?
so your argument is well other people did it so it is okay that Christ himself was supposedly was cool with it, even though Christ had no problems calling out some fuckery when it benefited him and his teachings?

There were a lot of things that Jesus had called out that had been going on longer than him, yet slavery wasn't one of them.
 
So you're saying the black church has improved black communities spiritually, socially, or intellectually . Ok now give us an examples where the black church has done so and the results from those actions.

:rolleyes:

Despite what your presidential candiate Joe Biden thinks, we're not some monlithic group. There are millions of people who have been uplifted by the black church spiritually and mentally, including every black man and woman on this board.

People from the black church literally put their lives on the line for our freedom :smh:
 
:rolleyes:

Despite what your presidential candiate Joe Biden thinks, we're not some monlithic group. There are millions of people who have been uplifted by the black church spiritually and mentally, including every black man and woman on this board.

People from the black church literally put their lives on the line for our freedom :smh:
Fuck what Joe Biden said. I am asking you for proof of what you said. What the hell that got to do with being monolithic or not?
Just back up your statement.
 
So instead you act like a lil bitch and side attack me? Be a man next time and say that shit to me directly.
Now I understand why you can't look me in the eyes like a man and say who you voted for and who you're going to vote for because you aint a man (at least not an alpha male).

Be a man and step in the Zoom meeting! And you can tell me about the Democratic plan to address this as well:
Median wealth of black Americans 'will fall to zero by 2053', warns new report
 
There's an old story about two men on the deck of the Titanic.

When they hit the iceberg one fell into the icy water. The other man boarded a lifeboat and sailed to America becoming the next vice president.

Neither man was heard from again.

In other words, who cares what she believes in?
 
HOW HAVE POOR BLACK CHRISTIANS BENEFITED FROM THE BLACK CHURCH OR ANY CHURCH FOR THAT MATTER? The majority of christians tend to be on the lower to poor end of the economic scale in general. Are you going to argue that point?

b : a bettering of a condition especially spiritually, socially, or intellectually
c(1) : influences intended to uplift

(2) : a social movement to improve especially morally or culturally

Church isn't a transaction - you don't go to church for the promise of financial gain.
 
Can't have a discussion with someone who doesn't have to address issues of substance.

How Obama Destroyed Black Wealth
The nation's first African-American president was a disaster for black wealth.

Gentrification in America Report
Dramatic changes are playing out across parts of urban America, making many neighborhoods hardly recognizable from a relatively short time ago. A new class of more affluent residents is moving into once underinvested and predominately-poor communities. Development has followed, typically accompanied by sharp increases in housing prices that can displace a neighborhood’s longtime residents. It’s a scenario known as gentrification, and one that presents a growing dilemma for policymakers.
I get it. Obama started gentrification in the black community.
 
I'm ready and willing for the Zoom. Let @killagram know the time. We've had a lot of people pop shit and then fail to follow through.

And you cannot "empirically" prove what you're asking. You want to see every deposit in my bank account and my voting records? Pull discovery? Search warrant? You, like BKF, are afraid to discuss the issues at hand, and the Democratic Party's relationship with the Black community.



Once again, I said major cities. Let's add Baltimore to the list.



As I said, we will see.



Don't get an argument over semantics with that idiot. He can't discuss the issues at hand so that's his go-to.
okay so out of those states mentioned which ones have majority black cities that are thriving?
 
so your argument is well other people did it so it is okay that Christ himself was supposedly was cool with it, even though Christ had no problems calling out some fuckery when it benefited him and his teachings?

There were a lot of things that Jesus had called out that had been going on longer than him, yet slavery wasn't one of them.

I'm not arguing for slavery at all. I'm asking how do you point out slavery as a way to discredit religion when slavery was here before religion?
 
Be a man and step in the Zoom meeting! And you can tell me about the Democratic plan to address this as well:
Median wealth of black Americans 'will fall to zero by 2053', warns new report
It's funny how you'll answer this question or that question but you refuse to answer one simple question. Who are you voting for come November.
I don't need to debate you. I simply want an answer to my question.
 
I'm not arguing for slavery at all. I'm asking how do you point out slavery as a way to discredit religion when slavery was here before religion?
well american slavery was around before you were born. Did that make it okay or justifiable?
 
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yet the church pastor thrives on financial gain, funny how that works. so in your idealistic world, what is the point of building multi-million dollar facilities. It ain't about the money,right?

:rolleyes:

The black church is much more than the caricature of the preacher with the Cadillac passing around the collection plate. These types obviously exist but there are many good people in the church who have worked to uplift the community for generations.
 
VAiz4Trump must think BGOLers don't know how to use Google :beatyourass:
No surprise: NC anti-gay Pastor Patrick Wooden pimps his ‘life-earned,’ non-academic doctorate


North Carolina anti-gay rent-a-pastor Patrick Wooden, who is a high-profile supporter of the upcoming ballot initiative in this state, Amendment One, which would add language to our constitution barring gays and lesbians from civil marriage or any legal relationship recognition. Wooden has been on the airwaves of late making statements that have to make it hard for amendment supporters to claim this guy is on their side. Wooden:


Thanks to intrepid Blender Laurel Ramseyer, she discovered that the fact-challenged “Dr. Patrick L. Wooden, Sr.” also extends his fantasy thinking to his own honorific of “Dr.” By the way, he clearly clings to this title for dear life, using it at the beginning of EVERY paragraph of his puffed up bio (see screencap at right).

Laurel noted:

You know I have a special dislike of these anti-gay jerks who puff up their image with unearned doctorate degrees (I had to bust my butt for mine – I don’t like sharing the title with charlatans), so I decided to check into your new boyfriend’s credentials. If my reading of the material below is correct, his “doctorate” is nothing more than recognition that he’s been a pastor for X number of years. No scholarship needed. Looks like he got a “life-earned” doctorate. In other words, an honorary degree for just showing up to work.

According to Wooden’s bio page: “Dr. Wooden has received national notoriety for his work and efforts. The North Carolina College of Theology recognized the work of Dr. Wooden and afforded him the opportunity to use some of his years of experience as credits in his pursuit of a Doctorate of Theology of which he received in June 2007.”

Check out the college’s page about their doctorates, where they feel the need to say “Very Important: We do not sell degrees”. It would be interesting to know if the orgs that have accredited them are themselves legit. I don’t know how to check that, especially for a religious college which may not use the academic system (telling all in itself, if true):
And I'm supposed to listen this messenger of faith. YEAH RIGHT!!!!
 
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It's funny how you'll answer this question or that question but you refuse to answer one simple question. Who are you voting for come November.
I don't need to debate you. I simply want an answer to my question.

But I thought those of us in ADOS were not voting at all? That's when we're not "Russian bots" or GOP operatives.
 
Church isn't a transaction - you don't go to church for the promise of financial gain.

This guy wants to hold the church responsible for community financial policy, which, ironically, is a very right-wing position push by GW Bush and others with their "faith-based initiatives."
 
I didn't ask who you are not voting for. I ask who are you voting for?

Explain to me how I personally choose to vote (assuming I will or that I am even eligible) is relevant to a discuss on Black political and economic agenda?



 
Neither do I. But when it comes to the LGBTQ having an agenda for themselves, and backing candidates who favor their agenda, you and others have no issue with that (even though BGOL makes it a bannable offense). But when it comes to Black ADOS people having an agenda for ourselves, and backing candidates who favor our agenda, as well as refuting those who don’t, then everyone loses their minds!

Make it make sense!
see this is where I take issue, because this is not an honest assessment of my position. If you're gonna be specific enough to call me out by saying "you", quote an example. As far as not having a problem w groups having agendas and backing candidates who favor them, um yeah, that's what I said :dunno:

My thing w the ADOS wave on this board is more w the people who go the hardest w it being certified idiots, and the fact that I think it's an engineered distraction that Jacobin nuts and Bernie bros don't see that they're being played by. I think you're a Bernie bro rebadged. I think most of it is goals w no plans, which is just obfuscation.

And for the record, my blood is native American and French African from New Orleans, so I'm ados and then some. I just think that it's a narrow minded and backwards approach that is being amplified by people who realize the damage it actually does.
Still can't believe above when I said I decline to get literally ass raped for Biden,

And that faggits reply was "do you want Trump to get elected"

:smh:
that's because it's a dumb ass comment that makes literally no sense and you are trying to be funny as a dodge. Notice you haven't provided a real answer. And we both know why.
This ^^^

.... is the hard fact and real truth.... too much attention spent by too many tearing other black folks down and to achieve what?? absolutely nothing !!! .... the real enemy is happy for you to do that as they see it as another method of keeping us divided... let's keep the focus on all those who want to work with and fight alongside us for the common cause of progress... otherwise we'll stay fighting against each other and achieve nothing.
this shit here smh

If one side is wrong, what do you do? Hug? Fuck that I'm calling out wrong whenever I see it and whoever mouth it comes out of.
Are 90% of Black people voting for the GOP? Is the Black vote a key constituency of the Repubs in the Senate and the White House?
yeah the blaming 2016 on niggas shit is played out.
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is trump/the gop more likely to be responsive to your policy demands than biden/dems? If you think so, please explain what data you base your decision on.

I don't think you'll answer, based on your previous responses. But I'm asking anyway.
 
Are 90% of Black people voting for the GOP? Is the Black vote a key constituency of the Repubs in the Senate and the White House?

Are dems able to pass legislation by themselves? If they have house and Senate and managed to do it, does Trump veto it?
 
see this is where I take issue, because this is not an honest assessment of my position. If you're gonna be specific enough to call me out by saying "you", quote an example. As far as not having a problem w groups having agendas and backing candidates who favor them, um yeah, that's what I said :dunno:

You asked "do you want gay people to be discriminated against? Shitted on?", which isn't an honest assessment of my position either.

My thing w the ADOS wave on this board is more w the people who go the hardest w it being certified idiots, and the fact that I think it's an engineered distraction that Jacobin nuts and Bernie bros don't see that they're being played by. I think you're a Bernie bro rebadged. I think most of it is goals w no plans, which is just obfuscation.

And you show your ignorance with these statements. ADOS was routinely critical of Sanders due to his rejection of reparations and unwillingness to acknowledge the particular economic struggle of Black people, and the same holds true of Jacobin as a magazine as well.

We repeatedly post information, such as The Color of Wealth reports, to which the answer tends to be "so you're voting for Trump" or "GOP agent" or "Russian bot". None of you can adequately responds to any objective criticism of Biden, Harris, Obama, or the Democratic Party in general.

And for the record, my blood is native American and French African from New Orleans, so I'm ados and then some. I just think that it's a narrow minded and backwards approach that is being amplified by people who realize the damage it actually does.

I don't know what a "French Africa from New Orleans" is. I guess you're saying you're some kind of Creole and you come from a different lineage than the rest of us. If you are, I'd agree with that.
 
Are dems able to pass legislation by themselves? If they have house and Senate and managed to do it, does Trump veto it?

Dems were able to push DACA and even shut down the government over issues like immigration and the wall. They seem to be able to take a stand on certain issues, and resist when necessary.
 
You sound like a Black man-hating feminist. For the record, I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. But more importantly, Black people are not responsible for Trump's win in 2016. White people are! I will repeat, Black people are not responsible for Trump's win in 2016. White people are! So any issues you have with Trump, take it up with them. He's their product and their responsibility. If you are disappointed with the lack of Black political engagement, then encourage your Democratic Party to present Black America with a comprehensive Black agenda, rather than segregationist-adjacent architects of mass incarceration and the 94 Crime Bill and Cali's top cop.

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Did you vote for Hillary or did you vote 3rd party/write in?
 
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