Prominent black NC Bishop Patrick Wooden says Kamala Harris ‘ain’t good for black folk’

I don't know why you're so afraid to have a serious discussion about the Democratic political record as it pertains to Black voters.
How can I have a serious discussion with a person who won't put his cards on the table?
 
How can I have a serious discussion with a person who won't put his cards on the table?

I discuss objectively. Data, facts, numbers, history.....shit you really can't dispute. You want to get into ridiculous ad hominems.

Let's pull some numbers on Black wealth pre- and post-Obama and discuss from there. Or how about Black incarceration rates over the years.
 
I discuss objectively. Data, facts, numbers, history.....shit you really can't dispute. You want to get into ridiculous ad hominems.

Let's pull some numbers on Black wealth pre- and post-Obama and discuss from there. Or how about Black incarceration rates over the years.
Dude all this yapping and you can't simply say who you voted for in 2016 and who you plan on voting for this year?
Like I said I can not have a serious discussion with you without you putting your cards on the table.
 
You post up that you are not being paid by the right and you didn't vote for trump in 2016 and we will zoom, Google meet or whatever you like. Let's see of you have the balls. Why don't you run for office?

I'm not being paid by the right and I didn't vote for Trump in 2016.

Now, what economically tangible benefits can or will Black people see for voting Democratic? While we're at it, we can talk about what has occurred in cities run by Democrats like Chicago, DC, NYC, and SF.
 
the fact that you are arguing that a 2,000 year old institution has no responsibility to uplift the communities that have helped it thrive is even more laughable.

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I'm admittedly no religious expert so help me out. Where in the bible does it say its the churches responsibility to uplift the community?

What other religion on this earth has the responsibility of uplifting its community? I guess its only the black church with that expectation?
 
Dude all this yapping and you can't simply say who you voted for in 2016 and who you plan on voting for this year?
Like I said I can not have a serious discussion with you without you putting your cards on the table.

You can't have a serious discussion period. You're unable to think outside of a binary Dem/GOP or liberal/conservative paradigm. Go turn on MSNBC so they can tell you what to think and how to think about it.
 
Yes to all the above.
You said they have worked to uplift the community for generations. Are you really trying to say uplifting the community and changing the community around are two different things? :lol: :lol:
All you are telling me is that the numerous churches in the black community have been a failure.

"Are you really trying to say uplifting the community and changing the community around are two different things?"

Yes.

I also noticed you didn't answer if you've ever been a member of a black church, or know someone who is. If you were, you'd know they are always doing things to help "the community".

You can only believe religion can be a "failure" when you view religion like politics, with expected "results" - just like I said earlier.
 
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I'm admittedly no religious expert so help me out. Where in the bible does it say its the churches responsibility to uplift the community?

What other religion on this earth has the responsibility of uplifting its community? I guess its only the black church with that expectation?
jews use their religion to uplift their people all the time(even used it to get their country back). I guess you are one of those shut up slave and obey your master type Christians, since the bible makes it very clear it condones slavery. did you see those quotes in the bible?
 
"Are you really trying to say uplifting the community and changing the community around are two different things?"

Yes.

I also noticed you didn't answer if you've ever been a member of a black church, or know someone who is. If you were, you'd know they are always doing things to help "the community".

You can only believe religion can be a "failure" when you view religion like politics, with expected "results" - just like I said earlier.
Are you blind? I highlighted your question and said yes to all of the above.

If you believe that uplifting, and changing are two different things, then you are simply being dishonest.
 
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I'm not being paid by the right and I didn't vote for Trump in 2016.

Now, what economically tangible benefits can or will Black people see for voting Democratic? While we're at it, we can talk about what has occurred in cities run by Democrats like Chicago, DC, NYC, and SF.
Don't move away from this zoom meet. As you would say empirically prove you are not getting paid or didn't vote for trump. Why the laughter about finally someone has the balls to zoom. What am I afraid of. I am a black male from Raleigh, NC, WSSU grad (HBCU) if you didn't know and Omega man. I travel up to VA, your area several times a year with my team for grudges races at Dinwiddie and MIR . And, I would not vote for trump under any circumstances. Chew on those bread crumbs.
 
I'm not being paid by the right and I didn't vote for Trump in 2016.

Now, what economically tangible benefits can or will Black people see for voting Democratic? While we're at it, we can talk about what has occurred in cities run by Democrats like Chicago, DC, NYC, and SF.
 
Don't move away from this zoom meet. As you would say empirically prove you are not getting paid or didn't vote for trump. Why the laughter about finally someone has the balls to zoom. What am I afraid of. I am a black male from Raleigh, NC, WSSU grad (HBCU) if you didn't know and Omega man. I travel up to VA, your area several times a year with my team for grudges races at Dinwiddie and MIR . And, I would not vote for trump under any circumstances. Chew on those bread crumbs.

Are you the chosen one.. brah? @VAiz4hustlaz
 
jews use their religion to uplift their people all the time(even used it to get their country back). I guess you are one of those shut up slave and obey your master type Christians, since the bible makes it very clear it condones slavery. did you see those quotes in the bible?

Spit Dem qoutes to me..so I can roast these relics.. brah
 
If you believe that uplifting and changing are two different things, then you are simply being dishonest.

The dictionary thinks its two different things...

up·lift
verb:
lift (something) up; raise ;
elevate or stimulate (someone) morally or spiritually.

Similar: inspiring, stirring, moving, touching, affecting, warming cheering, encouraging
 
The dictionary thinks its two different things...

Definition of uplift (Entry 2 of 2)
verb:
lift (something) up; raise ;
elevate or stimulate (someone) morally or spiritually.

Similar: inspiring, stirring, moving, touching, affecting, warming cheering, encouraging


Definition of uplift (Entry 2 of 2)

1 : an act, process, result, or cause of uplifting: such as

a(1) : the uplifting of a part of the earth's surface

(2) : an uplifted mass of land
b : a bettering of a condition especially spiritually, socially, or intellectually
c(1) : influences intended to uplift

(2) : a social movement to improve especially morally or culturally



Definition of change
(Entry 1 of 2)

transitive verb
1a : to make different in some particular : alter never bothered to change the will
b : to make radically different : transform can't change human nature
c : to give a different position, course, or direction to changed his residence from Ohio to California





2a : to replace with another let's change the subject
b : to make a shift from one to another : switch always changes sides in an argument
c : to exchange for an equivalent sum of money (as in smaller denominations or in a foreign currency) change a 20-dollar bill
d : to undergo a modification of foliage changing color
e : to put fresh clothes or covering on change a bed


Just like I thought. You are being dishonest.
 
jews use their religion to uplift their people all the time(even used it to get their country back). I guess you are one of those shut up slave and obey your master type Christians, since the bible makes it very clear it condones slavery. did you see those quotes in the bible?

Jew isn't a race - its a religion.

Do jews "uplift" non jews like black christians are supposed to do agnostic blacks?

No, they don't give a fuck about them. Different Jewish denominations don't even fuck with each other like that.
 
How is the Black American church a 2,000 year-old institution?

The black american church is based on 2,000 year old institution. The 2,000 year old institution has thrived because due it's
Spit Dem qoutes to me..so I can roast these relics.. brah
Hate to use this but it was dead on. Already at the right starting point. No he's not the first to bring it up, but he nails it pretty good.

 
Definition of uplift (Entry 2 of 2)
b : a bettering of a condition especially spiritually, socially, or intellectually
c(1) : influences intended to uplift

(2) : a social movement to improve especially morally or culturally

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The black church hasn't done this? WTF?
 
Don't move away from this zoom meet. As you would say empirically prove you are not getting paid or didn't vote for trump. Why the laughter about finally someone has the balls to zoom. What am I afraid of. I am a black male from Raleigh, NC, WSSU grad (HBCU) if you didn't know and Omega man. I travel up to VA, your area several times a year with my team for grudges races at Dinwiddie and MIR . And, I would not vote for trump under any circumstances. Chew on those bread crumbs.

I'm ready and willing for the Zoom. Let @killagram know the time. We've had a lot of people pop shit and then fail to follow through.

And you cannot "empirically" prove what you're asking. You want to see every deposit in my bank account and my voting records? Pull discovery? Search warrant? You, like BKF, are afraid to discuss the issues at hand, and the Democratic Party's relationship with the Black community.


Once again, I said major cities. Let's add Baltimore to the list.

Mayne say he a prisoner of war so he missing in action...so he just might be the first one to ever show up to his meeting on wax..brah

As I said, we will see.

The dictionary thinks its two different things...

up·lift
verb:
lift (something) up; raise ;
elevate or stimulate (someone) morally or spiritually.

Similar: inspiring, stirring, moving, touching, affecting, warming cheering, encouraging

Don't get an argument over semantics with that idiot. He can't discuss the issues at hand so that's his go-to.
 
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The black church hasn't done this? WTF?
So you're saying the black church has improved black communities spiritually, socially, or intellectually . Ok now give us an examples where the black church has done so and the results from those actions.
 
I'm ready and willing for the Zoom. Let @killagram know the time. We've had a lot of people pop shit and then fail to follow through.

And you cannot "empirically" prove what you're asking. You want to see every deposit in my bank account and my voting records? Pull discovery? Search warrant? You, like BKF, are afraid to discuss the issues at hand, and the Democratic Party's relationship with the Black community.



Once again, I said major cities. Let's add Baltimore to the list.



As I said, we will see.



Don't get an argument over semantics with that idiot. He can't discuss the issues at hand so that's his go-to.
Oh my...I thought you didn't get into ad homien attacks? You acting like a little bitch because I asked you who you voted for in 2016 and who you're planning on voting for in 2020? Pull your skirt up b...
 
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:lol: the title of this shit.
biden/harris > trump/pence

 
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Prove you didn't vote for Trump and you're not getting paid to promote Republicans and I will jump on a call.
 
Jew isn't a race - its a religion.

Do jews "uplift" non jews like black christians are supposed to do agnostic blacks?

No, they don't give a fuck about them. Different Jewish denominations don't even fuck with each other like that.
you asked about a religion that uplifts it's people. You can't keep up with your own stupid arguments. And do you really think that jews don't rally around each other when the the time comes regardless of different ideals (no one said they had to be a 100% in synch, except you).

Le me move the goal post back, HOW HAVE POOR BLACK CHRISTIANS BENEFITED FROM THE BLACK CHURCH OR ANY CHURCH FOR THAT MATTER? The majority of christians tend to be on the lower to poor end of the economic scale in general. Are you going to argue that point?

Before you go off on some dumb ass tangent, I don't give a fuck about any religion, so bringing up what other religions do or don't do is a stupid waste of time. Since you want to cape for black churches, I am asking you to justify your arguments about that particular institution. If the best you can come up with, well religions xyz don't do such and such, you are proving my point.
 
Oh my...I thought you didn't get into ad homien attacks? You acting like a little bitch because I asked you who you voted for in 2016 and who you're planning on voting for in 2020? Pull your shirt up b...

Can't have a discussion with someone who doesn't have to address issues of substance.

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Dramatic changes are playing out across parts of urban America, making many neighborhoods hardly recognizable from a relatively short time ago. A new class of more affluent residents is moving into once underinvested and predominately-poor communities. Development has followed, typically accompanied by sharp increases in housing prices that can displace a neighborhood’s longtime residents. It’s a scenario known as gentrification, and one that presents a growing dilemma for policymakers.
 
Can't have a discussion with someone who doesn't have to address issues of substance.

How Obama Destroyed Black Wealth
The nation's first African-American president was a disaster for black wealth.

Gentrification in America Report
Dramatic changes are playing out across parts of urban America, making many neighborhoods hardly recognizable from a relatively short time ago. A new class of more affluent residents is moving into once underinvested and predominately-poor communities. Development has followed, typically accompanied by sharp increases in housing prices that can displace a neighborhood’s longtime residents. It’s a scenario known as gentrification, and one that presents a growing dilemma for policymakers.
So instead you act like a lil bitch and side attack me? Be a man next time and say that shit to me directly.
Now I understand why you can't look me in the eyes like a man and say who you voted for and who you're going to vote for because you aint a man (at least not an alpha male).
 
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