Black on Black Crime vs. Police Brutality

[prose00]

Yes, I know their both entirely two separate issues..

And this post prolly sound lopsided under the current climate but before George Floyd & Armaud Arbery murders, which issue is generally more problematic for black folk in America??

Call me a "coon", "cac", "agent" but deep down I feel BBC is the big elephant in the room we been avoiding for decades. We can easily blame white supremacy for PB, but afraid to hold our own accountable for BBC.

What needs to happen to effect a global movement on the scale of the current one??

I've added an anonymous poll. Please vote honestly

 

[Jumbodicc]

Black on black crime is a myth /thread

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Yes, I know their both entirely two separate issues..

And this post prolly sound lopsided under the current climate but before George Floyd & Armaud Arbery murders, which issue is generally more problematic for black folk in America??

Call me a "coon", "cac", "agent" but deep down I feel BBC is the big elephant in the room we been avoiding for decades. We can easily blame white supremacy for PB, but afraid to hold our own accountable for BBC.

What needs to happen to effect a global movement on the scale of the current one??

I've added an anonymous poll. Please vote honestly

Dont BBC stand for big black coochie??`

I like coochie

 

[BKF]

Yes, I know their both entirely two separate issues..

And this post prolly sound lopsided under the current climate but before George Floyd & Armaud Arbery murders, which issue is generally more problematic for black folk in America??

Call me a "coon", "cac", "agent" but deep down I feel BBC is the big elephant in the room we been avoiding for decades. We can easily blame white supremacy for PB, but afraid to hold our own accountable for BBC.

What needs to happen to effect a global movement on the scale of the current one??

I've added an anonymous poll. Please vote honestly

Where did you get that "we have been avoiding black on black crime for decades"?
Most killings involving BBC involves people who know each other, domestic violence, and between people involved in criminal acts.
The Police are paid to protect and serve (criminals are not) and not go around beating up and murdering people.
So when a law abiding citizen has to worry more about being beat up or mudered by cops vs a criminal. On top of that we have to be worried about being brought up on bogus charges and loosing our freedom in a system designed to send black folk to jail. There is a problem.
Because no matter where I live (good or bad neighborhood/town/state) I am still black.

 

[prose00]

Where did you get that "we have been avoiding black on black crime for decades"?
Most killings involving BBC involves people who know each other, domestic violence, and between people involved in criminal acts.
The Police are paid to protect and serve (criminals are not) and not go around beating up and murdering people.
So when a law abiding citizen has to worry more about being beat up or mudered by cops vs a criminal. On top of that we have to be worried about being brought up on bogus charges and loosing our freedom in a system designed to send black folk to jail. There is a problem.
Because no matter where I live (good or bad neighborhood/town/state) I am still black.

Point taken. And I don't necessarily disagree with you. But BBC is still a MAJOR issue amongst ourselves we have yet to fully confront. I know the 95 Million Man March attempted to make us take account for each other, but it never really evolved beyond that moment in time.
How do you explain the black crime rate in Chicago for example? Sure, bad policeing & white supremacy all play a part somehow, but the onus is on us. Hell, go murder or loot white folx instead, not our own. I'll never understand that shit

 

[conspiracy_brotha]

Black on black crime is a myth /thread

Youre joking right?

 

[REDLINE]

High Blood Pressure and Heart Disease are more problematic.

 

[jasonblacc]

How bout we deal with white supremacy first. Then once we get true equality will see how the black crime rate looks once we aren’t under the thumb of WS.

 

[conspiracy_brotha]

How bout we deal with white supremacy first. Then once we get true equality will see how the black crime rate looks once we aren’t under the thumb of WS.

Abraham Lincoln slaughter a million CAC’S because he knew a house divided will fall. If our communities are being torn apart from within by our own people how can we address external issues? We need to fix ourselves first before crying about whitey.

 

[jasonblacc]

Abraham Lincoln slaughter a million CAC’S because he knew a house divided will fall. If our communities are being torn apart from within by our own people how can we address external issues? We need to fix ourselves first before crying about whitey.

We completely disagree
And that’s ok.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Point taken. And I don't necessarily disagree with you. But BBC is still a MAJOR issue amongst ourselves we have yet to fully confront. I know the 95 Million Man March attempted to make us take account for each other, but it never really evolved beyond that moment in time.
How do you explain the black crime rate in Chicago for example? Sure, bad policeing & white supremacy all play a part somehow, but the onus is on us. Hell, go murder or loot white folx instead, not our own. I'll never understand that shit

no offense but are you really that fuckin naive or you just tryin to get a popular thread going..

you dont know the chicago mafia runs EVERYTHING in chicago INCLUDING the POLICE who have many gang leaders

compromised to do their dirty work in the street..

its amazing how naive folks could still be over the age of thirty..

youd figure by now they would get a clue on how the world really works...

 

[RoomService]

Youre joking right?

No

 

[mcguyver]

How does the black community hold other black folk accountable? There is a thing called due process of the law, do you think black folk are supposed to prosecute on the spot black folk who commit crime? Cops are supposed to protect the US citizens, they are killing black folk for no reason and you talking about "what about when black folk kill other black people?"


Man kill yourself for this thread.

 

[code_pirahna]

When your government is the one attacking you then they are the biggest problem

 

[conspiracy_brotha]

How does the black community hold other black folk accountable? There is a thing called due process of the law, do you think black folk are supposed to prosecute on the spot black folk who commit crime? Cops are supposed to protect the US citizens, they are killing black folk for no reason and you talking about "what about when black folk kill other black people?"


Man kill yourself for this thread.

Nigga 93% of all black homicides in this country are committed by other black people. Black on black crime is a bigger problem than police brutally.

 

[pookie]

Black on black crime is a myth /thread

I strongly disagree...black on black crime and police brutality are separate issues that in my opinion can’t even be compared but black on black crime is a MAJOR PROBLEM. cac on cac crime, Latino on Latino crime, Chinese on Chinese crime doesn’t compare to black on black crime, there’s alot of senseless violence that goes on in the black community, people wanna complain about shows like COPS, The First 48 and others saying they target areas they know have a high black population but that doesn’t negate the fact that the crimes are still being committed

 

[mcguyver]

Nigga 93% of all black homicides in this country are committed by other black people. Black on black crime is a bigger problem than police brutally.

Where did you get that number.
Ok now tell Where are these high crime rates, why are they so high in these areas, who are reporting them?
All this shit is by design, WTF is your screen name again?

I don't know where you live but where I live and travel it ain't the brothas I have to worry about.

 

[jagu]

How does the black community hold other black folk accountable? There is a thing called due process of the law, do you think black folk are supposed to prosecute on the spot black folk who commit crime? Cops are supposed to protect the US citizens, they are killing black folk for no reason and you talking about "what about when black folk kill other black people?"


Man kill yourself for this thread.

I wonder why anyone fails to understand this.

 

[conspiracy_brotha]

Where did you get that number.
Ok now tell Where are these high crime rates, why are they so high in these areas, who are reporting them?
All this shit is by design, WTF is your screen name again?

I don't know where you live but where I live and travel it ain't the brothas I have to worry about.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-number

However, the share of black-on-black homicides as a proportion of black people killed actually fell by just under 1 percentage point, to 89.3 percent. This undoubtedly fractional decrease – which marked the third straight year of incremental reductions – still meant that for the first time since the start of the 21st century, the percentage of black victims killed by another black person stood below 90 percent of the total of black people killed.

We need to call out these death squads in our communities. And stop giving a pass for these motherfuckers. I know its an uncomfortable reality but black on black crime is our single most pressing issue. As i stated before we must fix our own house before tackling police brutality

 

[william busa]

When you talk about BBC, it MOSTLY involves black people that live a lifestyle conducive to violence. They know that the consequences of there actions will lead to death.
Now the victims of BBC are the innocent blacks that get caught in the crossfire of the violence. That's the number I want to know because I'm sure it's lower than the number of people who are killed by the people we pay to protect us. The ones that go on paid leave when they destroy the lives of a black family.
I can't include blacks who choose a life of high risk of death in the equation. I only look at the blacks who don't.

 

[mcguyver]

I strongly disagree...black on black crime and police brutality are separate issues that in my opinion can’t even be compared but black on black crime is a MAJOR PROBLEM. cac on cac crime, Latino on Latino crime, Chinese on Chinese crime doesn’t compare to black on black crime, there’s alot of senseless violence that goes on in the black community, people wanna complain about shows like COPS, The First 48 and others saying they target areas they know have a high black population but that doesn’t negate the fact that the crimes are still being committed

Crime in our neighborhoods goes deeper than A brother killing another

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-number



We need to call out these death squads in our communities. And stop giving a pass for these motherfuckers. I know its an uncomfortable reality but black on black crime is our single most pressing issue. As i stated before we must fix our own house before tackling police brutality

NEGRO please, you reading but you ain't reading. Crime is fucking crime, and we can't allow cops to be rolling through our hoods like serial killers under the guise of "what about black on black crime". You fail to see this fucked argument gives them strength in devaluing our lives. When that cop shot that sista through the window did you say to yourself "that's fucked up but I bet a NEGRO killed another NEGRO somewhere in America? Man fuck your argument. No go and reread what I highlighted for you.



Black-on-Black and White-on-White Killings
The vast majority of homicide victims are killed by people of their own race. People tend to kill who they know.

"You hurt people who are a lot like you. That's how it works," says David Kennedy, a professor and director of the National Network for Safe Communities at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City.
Among the roughly 6,000 cases in which the race of the victim and the offender were known, the number of blacks killed by blacks rose to 2,380 last year, an increase of about 8 percent from 2014.
However, the share of black-on-black homicides as a proportion of black people killed actually fell by just under 1 percentage point, to 89.3 percent. This undoubtedly fractional decrease – which marked the third straight year of incremental reductions – still meant that for the first time since the start of the 21st century, the percentage of black victims killed by another black person stood below 90 percent of the total of black people killed.

Often less discussed – to the consternation of experts and columnists – is the phenomenon of white-on-white homicides. The number of white people killed by other whites rose 3.5 percent to 2,574 victims in 2015.
White-on-white killings as a percentage of all homicides involving a white victim also fell, to 81.3 percent, marking the lowest share of such killings since 2001.
The margins are small, fluctuating by less than 3 percentage points in the last 15 years: Since 2001, the share of black-on-black and white-on-white homicides as a proportion of those killed of each race peaked at 91.9 and 84.2 percent, respectively.

 

[mcguyver]

When you talk about BBC, it MOSTLY involves black people that live a lifestyle conducive to violence. They know that the consequences of there actions will lead to death.
Now the victims of BBC are the innocent blacks that get caught in the crossfire of the violence. That's the number I want to know because I'm sure it's lower than the number of people who are killed by the people we pay to protect us. The ones that go on paid leave when they destroy the lives of a black family.
I can't include blacks who choose a life of high risk of death in the equation. I only look at the blacks who don't.

High crime rates in our cities happens in areas that are designed for that outcome aka the ghettos. The system has it designed that way because there is big money in crime. Look at the Camden NJ police reform. You would never think that reforming the police would make a town safer.

 

[Kemo07]

Nigga 93% of all black homicides in this country are committed by other black people. Black on black crime is a bigger problem than police brutally.

Socioeconomic proximity

 

[william busa]

High crime rates in pur cities happens in areas that are designed for that outcome aka the ghettos. The system has it designed that way because there is big money in crime. Look at the Camden NJ police reform. You would never think that reforming the police would make a town safer.

You're describing the "why", I was talking about the results of the why. People are not ready to focus on WHY the crime rate and killings are so high, just the results.

 

[mcguyver]

You're describing the "why", I was talking about the results of the why. People are not ready to focus on WHY the crime rate and killings are so high, just the results.

Huh? The design, the ghettos, the system is the why.

Edit. I reread your comment. You are correct.

 

[footloose]

Fuck this thread. Police take a oath to serve and protect. Street dudes don’t.

 

[Jumbodicc]

Youre joking right?

Crime is local, it is where you live. If crime in Salt Lake City ain't white on white crime then crime where black people love ain't black on...

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Crime is local, it is where you live. If crime in Salt Lake City ain't white on white crime then crime where black people love ain't black on...

you gonna give these gullible... official narrative parroting muthafuckas

a Headache with that so profound and yet so simple logic!!

keep smackin sun!!!!

 

[APOPHIS]

Socioeconomic proximity

Ding ding.

 

[Ballatician]

Black on black crime is a myth /thread

Exactly, you tend to kill the person who is closest to you, and that’s the truth for all groups. If people want to end “black on black violence,” we need to integrate more, and trust me, killers will not discriminate.

 

[Darrkman]

Black on black crime is just a way for white people to change the convo away from their racism.

Stop falling for it.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

People really think black people sit on our asses,twiddling our thumbs all day and act like crime doesn't exist....

I don't understand, how any can think black people don't do anything to stop crime in the community.

Black people are the only people that gets told to stop crime within the community yet nobody isn't will go to the root of the problem.

We as a community have segregated cities like Cleveland, Chicago, Detroit and etc,loan discrimination, housing discrimination, job discrimination and a plethora of other bullshit we gotta deal with on a daily basis but someone wants to talk about the symptoms of the problem.

And,we do get our shit together white people likes to bomb our communities and tell us to pull ourselves by the bootstrap.....lol

 

[BKF]

Black on black crime is just a way for white people to change the convo away from their racism.

Stop falling for it.

The problem is a lot of black folk go for the okey doke.
Black folk need to learn when debating, or bringing forth you point, you have to stay on point. Do not try to defend, what's not defendable because you'll end up being bogged down in nonsense and on the defense.

 

[prose00]

bump

 

[gene cisco]

People really think black people sit on our asses,twiddling our thumbs all day and act like crime doesn't exist....

I don't understand, how any can think black people don't do anything to stop crime in the community.

Black people are the only people that gets told to stop crime within the community yet nobody isn't will go to the root of the problem.

We as a community have segregated cities like Cleveland, Chicago, Detroit and etc,loan discrimination, housing discrimination, job discrimination and a plethora of other bullshit we gotta deal with on a daily basis but someone wants to talk about the symptoms of the problem.

And,we do get our shit together white people likes to bomb our communities and tell us to pull ourselves by the bootstrap.....lol

I see people in this thread talking about black on black crime don't exist, proximity, etc.

I quoted you because I know you're up in Ohio and can back this point(not for what you wrote). Is St. Clair close to Kinsman? No, right. How far is it to the W25 projects from Union? It's a hump right? What about from D'ville to 93rd? What about the 131 to Banbury? What about Madison to Buckeye?

Yet and still, cats still manage to travel all that way, put in fucking work, and go all the way back up. It's wild out here. Remember how bad the banging was in the 90s? Cats would walk past white kids to ask a black kid where he was from. But black and black crime don't exist.

Cats take road trips to different areas to kick up shit. Everyone who was out there knows this shit. Acadmics who make excuses don't know reality. Fuck I look like robbing the dope boy down the block? I'm taking my ass on the west side and running pockets. I'm going to St. Clair. Run pockets, kick doors, and bring my ass back to my neck of the woods.

As to the topic, both issues are problems but to me the pigs are the bigger threat because we never can escape them. I can protect myself from black on black crime. Been doing it for decades. I can't do shit with pigs. NOTHING. I can move to the best place in the county. Get the best car. And as soon as I hit the road, I'm at the mercy of some wannabe tough guy pig.

Solving black-on-black crime really starts at home for the most part, but these pigs are systemic and they know it. Fuck pigs, but black-on-black crime is real. While cats was in college learning talking points, we were doing it sadly.