He's implying Blacks in the US dont have a culture or influence on America that distinguishes from the diaspora. He needs proof.
Tariq Nasheed just lost a fuck load of credibility....SMFH!
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He's implying Blacks in the US dont have a culture or influence on America that distinguishes from the diaspora. He needs proof.
Very distinct.
Dance
Music
Art
Dress
Slang
Politics
Food
Thought patterns
Influence
I can go on and on lol
...And with each of those, there are subcultures of Afro-American culture, depending on where in the U.S. one grew up - some carried over from Africa in spite of slavery et al. Others that are American subcultures of Black immigrants, like a female friend who is from Panama and speaks with a combo of a Panamanian Spanish accent and Chicago south-side dialect and enjoys Panamanian and soul food dishes.
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And not all black people born and raised here are lock step in those things. Those aren't mutually exclusive. Politically we are diverse.
Black folks in America don't all listen to the same music. I know ADOS that love country music. Art? (Don't get me started) Food? Food is diverse as the region you grew up in. Black folks in Detroit aren't aren't eating the same foods from Baton Rouge and New Orleans or Philly.
Thought patterns? Explain Jesse Lee Peterson and Walter Williams? Clarence Thomas?
Influence...(I'm not sure what that part even means).
The only unifying collective thing black people in America have is racism. We all experience that no matter where we come from or how we're raised.
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That dude thinks foreigner blacks don't put their pants on one leg at a time. A lot of projection in these threads.
Y’all must feel dumb as hell if you bought Hidden bullshit.
He(Tariq) blocked me from his twitter page. I called his ass out.
This dumb muthafucka hasn’t even taken the tweet down. He’s had all day.
We can start with minor things like our dialects. When I speak English vs. a Jamaican speaking patois, the contrast is extremely noticeable.
In some circles it is called AAVE, but really it is nothing more than the end result of mixing African dialect with English language on American soil.
When a west indian jumps into their language bag, the dominant society views it as "exotic", but when we do it, they see it as "uneducated".
Alot of my fam in the south often speak with an accent......They are many things, but uneducated is not one of them.
Sometimes you are on some BS, man
Dont you know that cats out of Chicago, Detroit, cleveland etc. are only 3-4 generations out of south?
And we are not talking about the south that you grew up in when your folks moved here...we are talking about the REAL SOUTH that drove them to those places.
Most ADOS people in their 40s have grandparents or great grandparents from the south.
Yes, once our ancestors left the south and went to these "urban centres", these groups developed their own distinct style and subculture.
You are smoking crack if you think that ADOS doesnt have its own culture when compared to other black people.
That is straight up disrespectful.
Even those tiny ass carribean islands with their tiny ass populations will say that they have their own distinct cultures.
Tone is completely correct that ADOS have to deal with the "flattening" of blackness.
ADOS are taught that black is black......but Black Jamaicans are taught to love and respect their Jamaican heritage.
Black Americans DEFINE what an AMERICAN is.
You cant have the United states of America without the American Negro.
We built this bitch...........
The flattening of Blackness in America: The hustle and the Con
Aletha
Jan 30 · 6 min read
ADOS are under siege by Identity Thieves.
We all agree that in the world there are people. And that people are different; and just as proud of their differences as they are their similarities. Proud of their heritage, ethnicity, and family. I hope, but I know it’s not true, that it’s filled with more people who inherently believe that everyone has that right. That right to pride in their difference. Hell just the right to declare it.
Everyone should be allowed their own voice to determine how they are celebrated and respected — privately, publicly, legally, systemically, humanely. Everyone already declares themselves. I am Dominican, Nigerian, Ghanaian, Haitian, Eritrean, etc., proudly, as we should. But what does it mean when someone spends generations fighting to define and celebrate their uniqueness, but are labeled xenophobic…because they are defining and celebrating their uniqueness?
When it comes to race and ethnicity, what is the definition of Black? What is Black in America specifically? Black evolved as a recognized ethnicity in America — in America it was designated for the descendants of the American institution of slavery. It evolved from Slave, to Black, to Negro, back to Black, to African-American, to ADOS. Black was how ADOS defined ourselves and our lineage in America. It was used on the census as a category, and used to uphold the governmental system of racial oppression against a specific group of people that America created.
But something interesting happened. Black in America has been trafficked as a big cash umbrella.
Black is recognized as “melanin” globally, as it should be; but Black American does not mean “global.” Black American has its own distinction. It is ADOS. ADOS have a unique lived experience in American history. ADOS are labeled divisive because we have no divide. We have no hyphen. We are American. Our Black, our melanin, is defined by lineage, by country, by experience; just like the melanin of those from Caribbean and African nations. All countries with inhabitants and citizens define themselves according to their national differences, even with ethnic similarities. If you are (insert African or Caribbean Country here)-American, why am I not Black-American, ADOS?
Why when spouting tropes of xenophobia, a Black Brit, Black Nigerian, Black Somalian or Black Haitian etc. in America, argues that we are all Black the same when ADOS defines our differences? Why is there an insistence that they can speak for “all” Black Americans? And why is it never a Nigerian-American speaking with authority on Caribbean-American issues, or a Somalian-American explaining Jamaican-American life to a Jamaican-American?
Why is it only ADOS who are denied autonomy?
Because Black is currency in America; specifically, black ADOS suffering, there is a recent wave of hyphen American Black Immigrants and their hyphen American born offspring who are cashing in on ADOS Blackness. There is big money to be made extracting wealth from the ADOS community. Especially if you are a Black hyphen American. The two major ways that are blatant are the attempts to portray us. In the cases of people like Isa Rae and Daniel Kaluuya, they made a name for themselves in American entertainment in the skins of ADOS characters. For people like members of the Congressional Black Caucus, Joy Ann Reid, hashtag activists turn conference speakers, and hyphen bloggers who too have suffered racism in America, they rake it in by being the voice - but not really the voice of the Black race in America, just the voice of ADOS.
Isa did not title her web series “Awkward Senegalese Girl” or center Insecure in the Senegalese-American community. She happily portrayed and spouted the same racist tropes that supremacists use regarding the ADOS community. She’s portrayed those tropes all the way to a film career. She disrespected the ADOS community numerous times; from when she wore a sweatshirt with the word ‘n*gga’, on Insecure, to when she wore a belt with the words ‘every n*gga is a star’ to a fashion gala. Would she wear as fashion anything derogatory aimed at Senegalese people? She never has.
It’s obvious that Kaluuya just wants to make money putting on our skin. He’s getting away with Blackface. He stated that there was a lack of roles for him in the U.K because of his race, and then proceeded to spout off the projects in the U.K that he was in that had nothing to do with race. He knows that those projects did not propel him, but the ones in which he donned an American accent (a dry dull one) in situations of ‘race in America’ did. But now that he has been propelled by race in America, by ADOS life (as his audience and where he extracted his wealth) he has no use for race. He’s bored with talking about the very thing that centers ADOS life in our continued fight for justice. He is bored of the people and lives that he portrays which have deep meaning in the country so mired with racial inequity. He and Isa are bored with the ADOS struggle even as it feeds them. Now they’re Black, but not Black Black. Now they’re different… and race-less. They don’t want to participate in anti-ADOS racism resistance, but they insist on unquestioned access to ADOSness.
I understand that actors and filmmakers don’t want to be type cast, but this is deeper. There is a pattern of Black Hyphen actors being propelled in the rolls of Black American icons, liberators, and influencers that is producing not only a poor performance and a dull film, but a skewed history and a false narrative. Hollywood is refusing to cast ADOS actors to tell our own stories. The stories that ADOS filmmakers have been fighting to tell for decades are now being told through the lens of whiteness in cooperation with Hyphen Blacks who “other” themselves from ADOS life. Blacks who don’t care about the lives of the real people whose contributions matter to the fabric of this country. Blacks who just want the bag. The ADOS bag.
There are also Black hyphen Americans who are members of the Congressional Black Caucus, media personalities like Joy Ann Reid and Angela Rye, hashtag activists, and bloggers who all get paid claiming to be Black like me. They are fighting hard to ensure that there’s money in portraying, writing about, and reporting on the injustice suffered by ADOS. They are harvesting ADOS culture and re-interpreting for an audience what it’s like to be Black in America. They are paid to do so. But when it comes to advocacy, they wave the flag of their ancestors, as they insist on double dipping with impunity. They can be proud of their (insert flag here) lineage, hyphenating it with American, but insist that ADOS, to acknowledge ourselves as American, is xenophobic and divisive.
They insist that they are them and us. They insist that our individual voices be erased and don’t exist. They insist that Black is flat…..but only in America where Black (ADOS) has always been the capital.
They insist that our identity is theirs. And that we don’t have one.
When someone steals your identity it’s considered a crime, but somehow the vultures who are harvesting the ADOS culture and identity are getting away with it, and labeling ADOS as the aggressors.
You celebrate Juneteenth? I've been celebrating it most of my life. I've ran into people up north who've never even heard of it or it's significance.
There is no difference between how I live and how you live. You just think there is.
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I never said they didn't have "their own culture". You cats looking for any way to turn your lil' war into something when it isn't. I pointed out that it's diverse and not necessarily lock step together. You can't assume every black person is unified in thought and action.
To me the Blues, Soulfood, hip-hop (are just a few things) that are unifying culturally. But not every black person is part of that or practicing that part of the culture.
You guys are going out of your way to make every damn thing disrepsectful and "people are against you". Keep following that moron KingTarawhateverthefuck
Real talk. Ask Nigeria and Ghana where their first presidents went to school? In America, at Lincoln University. HBCU.
Kerry Washington 'proud' of Jamaican roots
LOOP NEWS CREATED : 13 AUGUST 2019
Emmy and Golden Globe-nominated actress Kerry Washington was recently honoured with an 'Artistic Achievement Award' at Jamaica's 57th Independence Black Tie Gala, held at the Hilton Westchester Hotel in Rye, New York.
In an emotional letter read by her Jamaican-born mother, Dr Valerie Washington, the actress, who received international recognition for her role as Olivia Pope in the hit ABC TV drama 'Scandal', expressed regret that she was unable to attend in person to accept the award.
She, however, used the opportunity to express how proud she was of her Jamaican roots to enthusiastic applause.
"I am so proud to be Jamaican...I bow down to my lineage, to my heritage, to my history and to my belonging," the letter said.
Actress Kerry Washington's parents Dr Valerie Washington and Earl Washington at the Independence Gala in Rye, New York.
"We celebrate all the goodness birthed by the island itself. We celebrate you. And we celebrate me. And we celebrate our powerful and beautiful island family! I am so proud to be Jamaican" the letter continued.
Washington, who was also bestowed with a Congressional Proclamation from US House of Representatives member Yvette D Clarke at the gala, has long been embraced by Jamaicans at home and in the Diaspora. Tourism Minster Ed Bartlett, who was a special guest at the Independence gala, extended an invitation to the actress to visit Jamaica for a family vacation.
"In the field of cinematography and the field of movies and drama, Jamaicans have positioned themselves and have provided us with great brand value. Tonight's recognition of Kerry Washington is a signal of that and we want to emphasise that respect for all the parents who have grown their children in the US and elsewhere to remember Jamaica," Bartlett said.
"It is in that context that we are inviting Kerry Washington to visit Jamaica as a special guest of the Ministry of Tourism and the government of Jamaica. I have spoken to her parents and they are very happy to convey the invitation and we look forward to see her in Jamaica," the minister added.
Washington's career took flight in 2004 when she appeared as Della Bea Robinson, the wife of musician Ray Charles, in the biopic 'Ray'. She won “Outstanding Actress in a Motion Picture” for Ray at the NAACP Image Awards in 2005.
Over the course of seven seasons, Washington earned two Primetime Emmy nominations, a Golden Globe nomination, a SAG nomination, and two NAACP Image Awards for her leading role in the ABC TV series 'Scandal'.
She currently serves as brand ambassador and creative consultant for Neutrogena. In 2013 she was ranked #2 on the 100 Most Beautiful People list by People Magazine.
www.loopjamaica.com
LOOP NEWS CREATED : 13 AUGUST 2019
Emmy and Golden Globe-nominated actress Kerry Washington was recently honoured with an 'Artistic Achievement Award' at Jamaica's 57th Independence Black Tie Gala, held at the Hilton Westchester Hotel in Rye, New York.
In an emotional letter read by her Jamaican-born mother, Dr Valerie Washington, the actress, who received international recognition for her role as Olivia Pope in the hit ABC TV drama 'Scandal', expressed regret that she was unable to attend in person to accept the award.
She, however, used the opportunity to express how proud she was of her Jamaican roots to enthusiastic applause.
"I am so proud to be Jamaican...I bow down to my lineage, to my heritage, to my history and to my belonging," the letter said.
Actress Kerry Washington's parents Dr Valerie Washington and Earl Washington at the Independence Gala in Rye, New York.
"We celebrate all the goodness birthed by the island itself. We celebrate you. And we celebrate me. And we celebrate our powerful and beautiful island family! I am so proud to be Jamaican" the letter continued.
Washington, who was also bestowed with a Congressional Proclamation from US House of Representatives member Yvette D Clarke at the gala, has long been embraced by Jamaicans at home and in the Diaspora. Tourism Minster Ed Bartlett, who was a special guest at the Independence gala, extended an invitation to the actress to visit Jamaica for a family vacation.
"In the field of cinematography and the field of movies and drama, Jamaicans have positioned themselves and have provided us with great brand value. Tonight's recognition of Kerry Washington is a signal of that and we want to emphasise that respect for all the parents who have grown their children in the US and elsewhere to remember Jamaica," Bartlett said.
"It is in that context that we are inviting Kerry Washington to visit Jamaica as a special guest of the Ministry of Tourism and the government of Jamaica. I have spoken to her parents and they are very happy to convey the invitation and we look forward to see her in Jamaica," the minister added.
Washington's career took flight in 2004 when she appeared as Della Bea Robinson, the wife of musician Ray Charles, in the biopic 'Ray'. She won “Outstanding Actress in a Motion Picture” for Ray at the NAACP Image Awards in 2005.
Over the course of seven seasons, Washington earned two Primetime Emmy nominations, a Golden Globe nomination, a SAG nomination, and two NAACP Image Awards for her leading role in the ABC TV series 'Scandal'.
She currently serves as brand ambassador and creative consultant for Neutrogena. In 2013 she was ranked #2 on the 100 Most Beautiful People list by People Magazine.
Kerry Washington 'proud' of Jamaican roots | Loop Jamaica
Emmy and Golden Globe-nominated actress Kerry Washington was recently honoured with an 'Artistic Achievement Award' at Jamaica's 57th Independence Black Tie Gala, held at the Hilton Westchester Hotel in Rye, New York. In an emotional letter read b
Kerry Washington 'proud' of Jamaican roots
LOOP NEWS CREATED : 13 AUGUST 2019
Emmy and Golden Globe-nominated actress Kerry Washington was recently honoured with an 'Artistic Achievement Award' at Jamaica's 57th Independence Black Tie Gala, held at the Hilton Westchester Hotel in Rye, New York.
In an emotional letter read by her Jamaican-born mother, Dr Valerie Washington, the actress, who received international recognition for her role as Olivia Pope in the hit ABC TV drama 'Scandal', expressed regret that she was unable to attend in person to accept the award.
She, however, used the opportunity to express how proud she was of her Jamaican roots to enthusiastic applause.
"I am so proud to be Jamaican...I bow down to my lineage, to my heritage, to my history and to my belonging," the letter said.
Actress Kerry Washington's parents Dr Valerie Washington and Earl Washington at the Independence Gala in Rye, New York.
"We celebrate all the goodness birthed by the island itself. We celebrate you. And we celebrate me. And we celebrate our powerful and beautiful island family! I am so proud to be Jamaican" the letter continued.
Washington, who was also bestowed with a Congressional Proclamation from US House of Representatives member Yvette D Clarke at the gala, has long been embraced by Jamaicans at home and in the Diaspora. Tourism Minster Ed Bartlett, who was a special guest at the Independence gala, extended an invitation to the actress to visit Jamaica for a family vacation.
"In the field of cinematography and the field of movies and drama, Jamaicans have positioned themselves and have provided us with great brand value. Tonight's recognition of Kerry Washington is a signal of that and we want to emphasise that respect for all the parents who have grown their children in the US and elsewhere to remember Jamaica," Bartlett said.
"It is in that context that we are inviting Kerry Washington to visit Jamaica as a special guest of the Ministry of Tourism and the government of Jamaica. I have spoken to her parents and they are very happy to convey the invitation and we look forward to see her in Jamaica," the minister added.
Washington's career took flight in 2004 when she appeared as Della Bea Robinson, the wife of musician Ray Charles, in the biopic 'Ray'. She won “Outstanding Actress in a Motion Picture” for Ray at the NAACP Image Awards in 2005.
Over the course of seven seasons, Washington earned two Primetime Emmy nominations, a Golden Globe nomination, a SAG nomination, and two NAACP Image Awards for her leading role in the ABC TV series 'Scandal'.
She currently serves as brand ambassador and creative consultant for Neutrogena. In 2013 she was ranked #2 on the 100 Most Beautiful People list by People Magazine.
Kerry Washington 'proud' of Jamaican roots | Loop Jamaica
Emmy and Golden Globe-nominated actress Kerry Washington was recently honoured with an 'Artistic Achievement Award' at Jamaica's 57th Independence Black Tie Gala, held at the Hilton Westchester Hotel in Rye, New York. In an emotional letter read b
Kerry is being divisive. There's no such thing as a Jamaican. It simply doesnt exist. Technically all blacks are "Jamaican" cuz we all black. There is nothing distinct about the Caribbean at all. They are simply Africans that got off an earlier boat stop than Charleston. There also is no such thing as Jamaican culture its all just African culture. Jamaica is a European term and concept. Blacks identifying as Jamaican are rejecting Africa and aligning with WS. We all black.
See us ADOS can do it too. That erasure co opt bullshit.
Kerry is being divisive. There's no such thing as a Jamaican. It simply doesnt exist. Technically all blacks are "Jamaican" cuz we all black. There is nothing distinct about the Caribbean at all. They are simply Africans that got off an earlier boat stop than Charleston. There also is no such thing as Jamaican culture its all just African culture. Jamaica is a European term and concept. Blacks identifying as Jamaican are rejecting Africa and aligning with WS. We all black.
See us ADOS can do it too. That erasure co opt bullshit.
What are you confused about?
I just tried to listen to this but the first 15 minutes of the video he either directly talked about gay shit or indirectly alluded to gay shit. I haven't listened to the guy in about 2 or 3 months. The period of time of me not listening to him to now, his fascination with bussy and gay shit is just blatant to me now. He just needs to come out.
@ Don Lemonade for not having enough "bussy buyoff power"
Classic show
And then when the Nigerian cab driver soundbite was played
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More like 2 and 3 generations and folks in their 40's have parents and grandparents.
Kerry Washington 'proud' of Jamaican roots
LOOP NEWS CREATED : 13 AUGUST 2019
Emmy and Golden Globe-nominated actress Kerry Washington was recently honoured with an 'Artistic Achievement Award' at Jamaica's 57th Independence Black Tie Gala, held at the Hilton Westchester Hotel in Rye, New York.
In an emotional letter read by her Jamaican-born mother, Dr Valerie Washington, the actress, who received international recognition for her role as Olivia Pope in the hit ABC TV drama 'Scandal', expressed regret that she was unable to attend in person to accept the award.
She, however, used the opportunity to express how proud she was of her Jamaican roots to enthusiastic applause.
"I am so proud to be Jamaican...I bow down to my lineage, to my heritage, to my history and to my belonging," the letter said.
Actress Kerry Washington's parents Dr Valerie Washington and Earl Washington at the Independence Gala in Rye, New York.
"We celebrate all the goodness birthed by the island itself. We celebrate you. And we celebrate me. And we celebrate our powerful and beautiful island family! I am so proud to be Jamaican" the letter continued.
Washington, who was also bestowed with a Congressional Proclamation from US House of Representatives member Yvette D Clarke at the gala, has long been embraced by Jamaicans at home and in the Diaspora. Tourism Minster Ed Bartlett, who was a special guest at the Independence gala, extended an invitation to the actress to visit Jamaica for a family vacation.
"In the field of cinematography and the field of movies and drama, Jamaicans have positioned themselves and have provided us with great brand value. Tonight's recognition of Kerry Washington is a signal of that and we want to emphasise that respect for all the parents who have grown their children in the US and elsewhere to remember Jamaica," Bartlett said.
"It is in that context that we are inviting Kerry Washington to visit Jamaica as a special guest of the Ministry of Tourism and the government of Jamaica. I have spoken to her parents and they are very happy to convey the invitation and we look forward to see her in Jamaica," the minister added.
Washington's career took flight in 2004 when she appeared as Della Bea Robinson, the wife of musician Ray Charles, in the biopic 'Ray'. She won “Outstanding Actress in a Motion Picture” for Ray at the NAACP Image Awards in 2005.
Over the course of seven seasons, Washington earned two Primetime Emmy nominations, a Golden Globe nomination, a SAG nomination, and two NAACP Image Awards for her leading role in the ABC TV series 'Scandal'.
She currently serves as brand ambassador and creative consultant for Neutrogena. In 2013 she was ranked #2 on the 100 Most Beautiful People list by People Magazine.
Kerry Washington 'proud' of Jamaican roots | Loop Jamaica
Emmy and Golden Globe-nominated actress Kerry Washington was recently honoured with an 'Artistic Achievement Award' at Jamaica's 57th Independence Black Tie Gala, held at the Hilton Westchester Hotel in Rye, New York. In an emotional letter read b
Well that figures..
Love themselves some white men.
