Millions of workers in the US won't be getting stimulus checks

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Millions of workers aren't getting any help from the largest emergency aid deal in US history.
When stimulus checks start going out across the country, undocumented immigrants won't be receiving them.

That's not a surprise. They aren't eligible for most federal benefits.

But immigrant rights advocates say leaving this group out of the $2 trillion plan isn't merely a matter of dollars and cents, and it isn't something that only affects undocumented workers and their families. It's a dangerous decision, they argue, that puts the whole country's health at risk as the novel coronavirus spreads.



Critics counter that it's not the US government's place to bankroll someone who broke the law, and that as unemployment skyrockets, American workers should come first.
This isn't just another set of salvos in the political battle over immigration that's raged in our country for decades. It's a very different debate -- because of who could be impacted, and what's at stake.

Even though Congress has cast its votes on the stimulus bill, the debate is far from over, and the impact of what's happened so far is only just coming to light. Here's a look at why this issue matters, and what could happen next.

The argument: 'Everyone has an immigrant neighbor'

Unauthorized workers make up about 5% of the US labor force -- around 7.6 million people, according to the latest estimates from the Pew Research Center.
Advocates argue the coronavirus crisis that's devastated global markets, overwhelmed hospitals and left millions without jobs is having an outsized impact on undocumented workers. Many had service-sector jobs that were decimated by the pandemic. Those who remain employed largely don't have the option of working from home, and are risking their safety to keep supply chains going.

"It's undocumented workers that are still in the fields, still in the factories, still the janitors in the buildings, still looking for work as day laborers," says S.G. Sarmiento, campaign director for the National Day Laborer Organizing Network.

At first glance, you wouldn't necessarily expect this group to be included in the stimulus deal. After all, they generally aren't eligible for government benefits. And these days it's rare to see leaders in Washington rolling out the welcome mat for immigrants.

But because of the threat the novel coronavirus poses, advocates argue this shouldn't be treated as business as usual. In a public health crisis, they say, if someone feels like they can't miss work or can't afford medical care, that impacts the entire community.

"From a public health perspective, you cannot have an effective national response to a pandemic that excludes enormous segments of the population. That's both illogical and immoral," Sarmiento says.

Stimulus checks aren't the only option on the table. Another thing advocates have been pushing for that wasn't included in the deal lawmakers approved: more access to testing and emergency medical care for immigrants in the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and Temporary Protected Status programs.

"The package does not provide enough access to testing and treatment. ... We just think this is totally irresponsible and dangerous and infuriating," said Tyler Moran, executive director of the Immigration Hub, an immigrant advocacy organization. "Everyone's health literally depends on the health of your neighbor. And guess what? Everyone has an immigrant neighbor."

The counterargument: 'Our top priority has to be helping Americans'
Organizations that favor restricting immigration say that now, more than ever, it's clear that undocumented immigrants shouldn't be included in the stimulus package.
"With one of the worst jobless reports in quite a few years, the primary focus right now should be on American workers and lawful immigrants," said Chris Chmielenski, deputy director of Numbers USA. "We should make sure that those people are taken care of first."

What about concerns that leaving undocumented immigrants out of the stimulus will have a detrimental impact on public health?
Chmielenski says the aid package includes funding for medical care providers who will test and treat patients regardless of immigration status.

"Our top priority has to be helping Americans and helping legal permanent residents who are most affected by the crisis both from a health perspective and economic perspective," he says.

One worker's perspective: 'The government is making us invisible'

Ingrid Vaca says this is her third week without work, and there's no end in sight.

"It's extremely difficult right now. I don't know what I'm going to do. ... I know I'm not going to have enough to pay my rent," the 57-year-old Virginia housekeeper says.
"The government is making us invisible. The fact that I'm a person without documents in this country does not mean that I'm not a human being, that I'm not hungry," she says. "The government uses us when it needs us. ... We keep their houses clean, we take care of their children and their elders. And we do it with a lot of love."

For decades, Vaca says she's paid taxes every year. Millions of other undocumented immigrants have, too.
"We're just asking for a little grain of sand in return," she says.

The next steps: 'We have to stick together'

Jesus Lopez burned through his savings when his truck broke down last month.
Now construction projects he'd counted on have been called off.

The 49-year-old day laborer in Southern California has seen this happen before. Work also ground to a halt after the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001. But Lopez says this time is different.

"This virus is invisible," he says, "and we're at risk. It's a ghost behind us."

Even so, Lopez says he can't afford not to work. This week he helped do some repairs at a restaurant and went to Home Depot to get materials.
"I have to take the risk," he says. "I had to go wearing gloves, a mask, glasses."

Groups that advocate for immigrant workers say stories like this are playing out across the country. Many are raising money for emergency funds to help those with no safety net.
"This is a crisis moment for hundreds of thousands of undocumented workers and families that don't have any sort of a basic work protections, like sick leave, like unemployment insurance," says Sarmiento of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network.
Lopez says he has enough money for two or three more days. After that, he's not sure what the future holds. But he knows he won't be getting any money from the government to help. Instead, he'll be turning to his friends and adapting however he can.
"That's what we do. ... We have to stick together," he says. "We have to turn to each other."
 
Seen this clickbait shit earlier. They really going to have people like :eek: only to click the piece and find out it's about illegals.

Citizens don't even know if they can pay rent. Hospitals on the verge of being overcrowded. Can these folks chill with the illegal narrative for just a few fucking weeks? Damn.
 
Get the fuck out of here. It’s shit like this which makes me want to become a republican. Why the fuck are niggas advocating for illegal niggas?! Can I go to China illegally, then get money from a stimulus package?

I think it’s bullshit that the cutoff is 75k. It’s horseshit to lots of higher earners. This isn’t unemployment, this is basically free money. It should go by your net money. What about the man who earns 160k per year but has to pay some bum bitch child support for two kids, and alimony. He might be bringing home 1000 Bi weekly but not qualify for stimulus aid. Meanwhile his garbage ex is caking off with tax free alimony, child support, she gets to claim the kids for taxes, she gets stimulus money for her and the two kids while the father doesn’t get shit.

we need to focus on things like this...NOT paying fucking illegals who will never ever hire any black person and who will call you ni663r before any rightwing cac.
 
Get the fuck out of here. It’s shit like this which makes me want to become a republican. Why the fuck are niggas advocating for illegal niggas?! Can I go to China illegally, then get money from a stimulus package?

I think it’s bullshit that the cutoff is 75k. It’s horseshit to lots of higher earners. This isn’t unemployment, this is basically free money. It should go by your net money. What about the man who earns 160k per year but has to pay some bum bitch child support for two kids, and alimony. He might be bringing home 1000 Bi weekly but not qualify for stimulus aid. Meanwhile his garbage ex is caking off with tax free alimony, child support, she gets to claim the kids for taxes, she gets stimulus money for her and the two kids while the father doesn’t get shit.

we need to focus on things like this...NOT paying fucking illegals who will never ever hire any black person and who will call you ni663r before any rightwing cac.

Any other country on earth from Russia to China if I came to there country illegal do you think I’m getting any kind of check from the Chinese or the Russians?

People are so fucking entitled and there fucking illegal aliens.
 
I wouldn't feel too sorry for them...

1) they stick together - they help each other find income... we dont look at them like that 'cause we damn sure dont help each other like that and wont try to understand that economic power... but in fairness slavery f that mentality up for us.

2) Trust... they will be using EIN numbers getting those stimulus small business loan grant from banks where they'll have a former immigrant in position to pass the app through approvals.

All while we going to have tens of thousands of legit small business owners not taking advantage. All because we got to research and read and fill out paperwork which most not going to do...BUT learning bs dances and songs and posting for clout on Instagram and Tik Tok and Facebook and all these other crazy things wasting time, but getting free money by just applying ourself and using some of our resources and our resources helping us... just sadly ain't happening at the rate it should.

Only thing we can do is get some Financial gurus from the bgol fam and try to help each other understand how Each person in each situation and small and large business owners who are sole proprietors or who have corporations can take advantage of this stimulus money and turn help others... Which is exactly what those immigrants who are short changed will do.

Applying to SBA i read somewhere open right now for small business to apply now... fuc focusing on them... lets quit fking around and worrying about "them" and let's get ours before they get all the available money.

@fonzerrillii is good a breaking shyt down. Where you at my brother? But we probably need a CPA on the board instead. :dunno:
 
This is a dumb and obvious article, if they don't know you are here and if you are illegal you shouldn't be expecting a check.


@ OP........fuck your thread title.

Illegals pay taxes and make it possible for you to get your Trump bucks. Next time you go stock up at the supermarket keep in mind all those frutis and vegies you bought were most likely picked by illegals.
 
Get the fuck out of here. It’s shit like this which makes me want to become a republican. Why the fuck are niggas advocating for illegal niggas?! Can I go to China illegally, then get money from a stimulus package?

I think it’s bullshit that the cutoff is 75k. It’s horseshit to lots of higher earners. This isn’t unemployment, this is basically free money. It should go by your net money. What about the man who earns 160k per year but has to pay some bum bitch child support for two kids, and alimony. He might be bringing home 1000 Bi weekly but not qualify for stimulus aid. Meanwhile his garbage ex is caking off with tax free alimony, child support, she gets to claim the kids for taxes, she gets stimulus money for her and the two kids while the father doesn’t get shit.

we need to focus on things like this...NOT paying fucking illegals who will never ever hire any black person and who will call you ni663r before any rightwing cac.

I agree with everything you said except the become a Republican part.
 
I wouldn't feel too sorry for them...

1) they stick together - they help each other find income... we dont look at them like that 'cause we damn sure dont help each other like that and wont try to understand that economic power... but in fairness slavery f that mentality up for us.

2) Trust... they will be using EIN numbers getting those stimulus small business loan grant from banks where they'll have a former immigrant in position to pass the app through approvals.

All while we going to have tens of thousands of legit small business owners not taking advantage. All because we got to research and read and fill out paperwork which most not going to do...BUT learning bs dances and songs and posting for clout on Instagram and Tik Tok and Facebook and all these other crazy things wasting time, but getting free money by just applying ourself and using some of our resources and our resources helping us... just sadly ain't happening at the rate it should.

Only thing we can do is get some Financial gurus from the bgol fam and try to help each other understand how Each person in each situation and small and large business owners who are sole proprietors or who have corporations can take advantage of this stimulus money and turn help others... Which is exactly what those immigrants who are short changed will do.

Applying to SBA i read somewhere open right now for small business to apply now... fuc focusing on them... lets quit fking around and worrying about "them" and let's get ours before they get all the available money.

@fonzerrillii is good a breaking shyt down. Where you at my brother? But we probably need a CPA on the board instead. :dunno:


They are doing no doc loans and can have a low credit score. We need to take advantage of this fellas.

I'm not saying undocumented people should get a stimulus check, but a lot of them get ein numbers so they can file taxes. They are worried about not paying taxes since they don't have social security numbers so they file taxes like they are a business. Don't assume that just because someone does not a social security number that doesn't mean they don't pay taxes. (I'm responding to earlier posts, I think you know this)

These loans will help a lot more than the stimulus checks will.
 
I wouldn't feel too sorry for them...

1) they stick together - they help each other find income... we dont look at them like that 'cause we damn sure dont help each other like that and wont try to understand that economic power... but in fairness slavery f that mentality up for us.

2) Trust... they will be using EIN numbers getting those stimulus small business loan grant from banks where they'll have a former immigrant in position to pass the app through approvals.

All while we going to have tens of thousands of legit small business owners not taking advantage. All because we got to research and read and fill out paperwork which most not going to do...BUT learning bs dances and songs and posting for clout on Instagram and Tik Tok and Facebook and all these other crazy things wasting time, but getting free money by just applying ourself and using some of our resources and our resources helping us... just sadly ain't happening at the rate it should.

Only thing we can do is get some Financial gurus from the bgol fam and try to help each other understand how Each person in each situation and small and large business owners who are sole proprietors or who have corporations can take advantage of this stimulus money and turn help others... Which is exactly what those immigrants who are short changed will do.

Applying to SBA i read somewhere open right now for small business to apply now... fuc focusing on them... lets quit fking around and worrying about "them" and let's get ours before they get all the available money.

@fonzerrillii is good a breaking shyt down. Where you at my brother? But we probably need a CPA on the board instead. :dunno:

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They are doing no doc loans and can have a low credit score. We need to take advantage of this fellas.

I'm not saying undocumented people should get a stimulus check, but a lot of them get ein numbers so they can file taxes. They are worried about not paying taxes since they don't have social security numbers so they file taxes like they are a business. Don't assume that just because someone does not a social security number that doesn't mean they don't pay taxes. (I'm responding to earlier posts, I think you know this)

These loans will help a lot more than the stimulus checks will.

We definitely need no doc loan info

I'm not sure who on the board could break all this down for the bgol fam to take advantage
 

They are doing no doc loans and can have a low credit score. We need to take advantage of this fellas.

I'm not saying undocumented people should get a stimulus check, but a lot of them get ein numbers so they can file taxes. They are worried about not paying taxes since they don't have social security numbers so they file taxes like they are a business. Don't assume that just because someone does not a social security number that doesn't mean they don't pay taxes. (I'm responding to earlier posts, I think you know this)

These loans will help a lot more than the stimulus checks will.
To add to this, many of these loans will be partially forgiven if guidelines are followed after 6 months. A senator was stating that 2/3rds will be forgiven.

I got an email from Angie's List yesterday stating how they fought for the independent contractors who can get that Express Loan for up to $25k for right now which has minimal requirements to apply. Then get a larger loan if needed.
 
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Dumb dumb do you know what "undocumented means"? And your dumbass thinks all illegals pick fruits.

BTW: Quote me again and I'll find you.

I take it you have never visited a farm before. You think those mexicans who cut your lawn every week are documented?
 
Seen this clickbait shit earlier. They really going to have people like :eek: only to click the piece and find out it's about illegals.

Citizens don't even know if they can pay rent. Hospitals on the verge of being overcrowded. Can these folks chill with the illegal narrative for just a few fucking weeks? Damn.

You can't reduce people's lives to a "narrative." You say "citizens don't even know if they can pay rent" like that's exclusive to citizens.
 
You can't reduce people's lives to a "narrative." You say "citizens don't even know if they can pay rent" like that's exclusive to citizens.
No, the inability to pay rent isn't exclusive to citizens. Illegals and corporations might have problems too. To that I say, oh well. Citizens first. I'd strip down the corporate bailouts too. Citizens and legal immigrants would be first in line with my bill.

Far left and far right can kick rocks with their pet projects for illegals and corporations. Can't believe people trying to push pet projects while citizens who play the game razor straight are getting long stroked. :smh:
 
Why are we concerned about illegals? We need to make sure black men get the maximum. The no doc SBA $25K loans sound a lot like a 70’s program Nixon started that put a lot of black businesses in place. But, that money’s gonna go fast
 
Millions of workers aren't getting any help from the largest emergency aid deal in US history.
When stimulus checks start going out across the country, undocumented immigrants won't be receiving them
These checks are making people stupid because that's all their talking about is a check instead of staying safe or getting better with whatever.

YOU DON'T PAY TAXES,LIKE ME...YOU DON'T GET MY MONEY.It's not up for debate.
 
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