BGOL’s influx of Anti Voting, Anti Democrat, Anti Obama Plants

While I agree with this about Tariq The Windmill, I don't place blame on him. I blame his stupid ass sheep that subscribes to his bullshit without question. If Tariq was organizing a "conference" in the jungles of Guyana and offered free Kool Aid, they'd buy a first class ticket



I don't see what Tariq Nasheed is saying so wrong.

When Jews are asking for Tangibles and Money for Israel Nobody says anything.

When LGBT has a big ass CNN Forum That are asking the democrats what are they bringing. Nobody says anything

You got Pete Buttplug Saying he is going to give Cash payments and Faster Citizen to Illegal Aliens. Nobody says anything

When Black people are trying to do the same thing. Everybody has a fucking problem.


Everybody wants us to fight there battles and then we get nothing in return? lol :)

When Joe Biden gets into office. He is going to do everything for other groups and will not do shit for black people. Just like Obama
and Then in 2024 The Democrats will come back smiling talking about You have to vote. You don't want a republican to win in 2024! You don't want another trump. Rinse and Fucking Repeat!!
 
I don't see what Tariq Nasheed is saying so wrong.

When Jews are asking for Tangibles and Money for Israel Nobody says anything.

When LGBT has a big ass CNN Forum That are asking the democrats what are they bringing. Nobody says anything

You got Pete Buttplug Saying he is going to give Cash payments and Faster Citizen to Illegal Aliens. Nobody says anything

When Black people are trying to do the same thing. Everybody has a fucking problem.


Everybody wants us to fight there battles and then we get nothing in return? lol :)

When Joe Biden gets into office. He is going to do everything for other groups and will not do shit for black people. Just like Obama
and Then in 2024 The Democrats will come back smiling talking about You have to vote. You don't want a republican to win in 2024! You don't want another trump. Rinse and Fucking Repeat!!

What tangibles have black folks asked for? To clarify, reparations is a category, not an actual item. That's like me saying I want to lose weight with no specifics. I lose one pound I've met that goal, but that doesn't get me to where I need to be healthwise. According to Mitch McConnell a black president was our reparations, so as far as the GOP is concerned, we've already had that item marked off the list. Go Mitch! Now you can vote GOP since they acknowledged giving us reparations.
 
Federal judges being appointed by trump at an alarming rate will have devastating impacts for generations to come.

Not to mention supreme court picks.
so you are an idiot. california is not giving out its electives to trump lol. my vote accomplishes nothing. my goodness.
 
I don't see what Tariq Nasheed is saying so wrong.

When Jews are asking for Tangibles and Money for Israel Nobody says anything.

When LGBT has a big ass CNN Forum That are asking the democrats what are they bringing. Nobody says anything

You got Pete Buttplug Saying he is going to give Cash payments and Faster Citizen to Illegal Aliens. Nobody says anything

When Black people are trying to do the same thing. Everybody has a fucking problem.


Everybody wants us to fight there battles and then we get nothing in return? lol :)

When Joe Biden gets into office. He is going to do everything for other groups and will not do shit for black people. Just like Obama
and Then in 2024 The Democrats will come back smiling talking about You have to vote. You don't want a republican to win in 2024! You don't want another trump. Rinse and Fucking Repeat!!

GROUP ECONOMICS and LOCAL POLITICS.

Do you or do you not think this is a better alternative than just not voting and waiting til 2024?

Please give a straight answer, yes or no.
 
You currently have in the WH a man who hates CA because of the way they voted. Y'all had fires everywhere, Trump was not wanting to send aid. He'd love to see the whole state burn as revenge for voting against him. We need someone in the WH who will advocate for all citizens regardless of whether they live in red or blue states. I've seen pictures of the late 60's early 70's where the fog and clouds were so thick in CA that you could cut it with a knife like in the Scooby Doo cartoons, but he wants to block your emission standards. When we had the government shutdown CA sites like the Joshua tree were vandalized.



i see, so the difference between cali giving its electives to trump is because of my vote even after its 3 to 1 against him in every poll and last election. got it.

you guys do realize its not a true democratic popular vote but an electoral college, right?
 
i see, so the difference between cali giving its electives to trump is because of my vote even after its 3 to 1 against him in every poll and last election. got it.

In states that are overwhelmingly democratic, sitting out the presidential election doesn't have an impact, imo. Regarding Congress critters, it depends on where you live. In local matters. I feel you should always be involved.

So yes the presidency affects you, but some states like CA the dem is most likely going to win. In other states the stakes are higher and we need an overwhelming turnout to get around suppression and all the other cheating they do. Plus several voting machines in use are unsafe and vulnerable. Even with CA being solidly blue, I take nothing for granted. Part of the reason we have Trump now is because everyone was so sure that someone else was going to do the mature, responsible thing and keep him out of office.
 
The presidential race won't be the only one on the ballet that day and I'm sure your vote will matter in a few of those races.

Secondly actively participating in races and voting no matter the outcome matters because the only thing political groups and politicians care about is numbers. Therefore the higher our voter turnout (consistently) the more they'll have to take notice if us as voters and our issues.

Even if you vote for a third party candidate or write in candidate who have no chance of winning its still important in the big picture.
did you skip the part where i said i will votr for local issues? a write in doesnt do shit for president. and holding out is a strategy and shouldnt be looked at with disdain and insults. i get the strategy. if no black people voted next election, you best believe both parties will try to pander for next time
 
In states that are overwhelmingly democratic, sitting out the presidential election doesn't have an impact, imo. Regarding Congress critters, it depends on where you live. In local matters. I feel you should always be involved.

So yes the presidency affects you, but some states like CA the dem is most likely going to win. In other states the stakes are higher and we need an overwhelming turnout to get around suppression and all the other cheating they do. Plus several voting machines in use are unsafe and vulnerable. Even with CA being solidly blue, I take nothing for granted. Part of the reason we have Trump now is because everyone was so sure that someone else was going to do the mature, responsible thing and keep him out of office.
ok so you agree not every vote is impactful. if trump wins cali then the dem really had no chance
 
ok so you agree not every vote is impactful. if trump wins cali then the dem really had no chance

It depends on the state. Demographics change. A few years ago TX was in the same place, people around here said voting didn't matter in TX because the GOP was going to win it all. The dems GOTV and they went purple and dems won locally and gained visibility. They didn't win the senate seat, but there was a slew of black judges and other dems elected due to the surge in dem voting. TX could possibly go blue in 2020.0
 
did you skip the part where i said i will votr for local issues? a write in doesnt do shit for president. and holding out is a strategy and shouldnt be looked at with disdain and insults. i get the strategy. if no black people voted next election, you best believe both parties will try to pander for next time

If a write in gets enough of a showing, they list the name in the results. So for instance, there are folks wanting reparations. Instead of sitting out they can coordinate an effort to write in "reparations candidate" or some other agreed upon name so that it gets enough of a percentage to get attention to their issues and have people seek them out on how to earn their vote.
 


Yeah that's why the Left is in Panic Mode. I can't blame them.

Supreme Court Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 86 Years Old and she is in and out of the hospital. If she passes.

Donald Trump will turn the Supreme Court into a conservative Supreme Court in over 70 Years.

So after he leaves office. It does not matter who is in the white houses. They can't pass anything radical bills like the Green New Deal.

People forget the judicial courts are very important.
 
If a write end gets enough of a showing, they list the name in the results. So for instance, there are folks wanting reparations. Instead of sitting out they can coordinate an effort to write in "reparations candidate" or some other agreed upon name so that it gets enough of a percentage to get attention to their issues and have people seek them out on how to earn their vote.
thats not much of a difference of not voting to get attention. same result
 
It depends on the state. Demographics change. A few years ago TX was in the same place, people around here said voting didn't matter in TX because the GOP was going to win it all. The dems GOTV and they went purple and dems won locally and gained visibility. They didn't win the senate seat, but there was a slew of black judges and other dems elected due to the surge in dem voting. TX could possibly go blue in 2020.0
yeah thats why i said initially it matters where you are and everyone started to argue against it like a knee jerk reaction
 
thats not much of a difference of not voting to get attention. same result

As I've said several times in the past, voting is currency. It only gets us something if we spend it. I'll just quote what I've said before:

Thank you!!!

It seems like a lot of folks don't know how things work. Voting, lobbying and contributions are the forms of political currency that politicians understand. Just like in regular life, you can't obtain anything or get a return unless you spend or invest said currency.

These folks don't want to vote or have anyone else vote, don't want to lobby anyone but democrats, half-assed at that, and don't want to contribute to candidates or form a superpac to put pressure on folks, yet expect magically get their agenda passed.

All the other groups they talk about getting "tangibles" have lobbyists that keep their issue in the face of elected officials, give money to people who support their agenda, and are very well organized to deliver or withhold votes to sway elections. They will vote for you or against you, but they rarely sit it out.

It wouldn't be so bad, but the tea party gave us the blue print. They sort of started out organically, but they weren't true grassroots, they were astroturfed. They had dark money being funneled to them via Americans for Prosperity and other groups buying them nice tour busses and allowing them to travel and keep discontent going.

When they realized the GOP was just using them to harness their energy to keep opposition to Obama in the headlines, and wasn't really trying to overturn roe vs wade, they showed the eff out. They had been legitimized by the GOP, who winked at their racism, saying they didn't agree with it but oh free speech. They started primarying establishment GOP with true believers, won the seats, and Congress had to kiss their asses for several years and there are still a few left causing problems to this day.

What they DIDN'T do, is sit out. If their candidate lost they still voted GOP because stopping Obama and the democrat agenda was still more important when it came down to a Republican and a dem.

Not showing up does nothing but reinforce the belief that black folks don't participate, aren't engaged, and can't be relied upon.

We have self described non voters suddenly going around here proclaiming they are going to not vote and encouraging others not to vote. It's like folks who proclaim they are boycotting Starbucks, or the most recent offender to black folks, when we don't patronize them in the first place. Your absence can't be noted if you've never shown up in the first place. You can't affect someone's bottom line or effect an outcome by non participation when you weren't participating to begin with.

I'm not against protest or third party voting, it can be very effective if used properly. I didn't advocate for it in 2016 because it was clear to me that Trump was a serious danger, and I don't advocate 3rd party voting now for the same reason. We don't just need our Presidential candidate to win, we need clear majorities in both houses for more than one year, or even one term, to roll back Trumps fuckery and move forward on a progressive agenda.

These are not normal times and it is far too important to get rid of Trump along with Stephen Miller, who is a clear threat to black folks and other PoC. However, I would have a lot more respect for ADOS if they were organizing folks to show up and write in the same name, something like "Reparations Candidate". Names that garner at least 1% of the vote are usually listed on tv by name. Seeing that you are showing up but spending your money elsewhere, gets attention and causes you to be courted to see how they can gain your business. Even picking a GOP or Dem candidate to support and then pulling support because they didn't do XYZ and causing them to lose next cycle will get attention and your vote courted.

All this "we aren't going to do anything but demand what we want" is nonsense. Other groups demand also but they exercise their power to make or break a candidate. Ados, or at least the ones acting as a mouth piece for the movement, aren't serious. All they are doing is sowing discontent and dividing black folks. They have no plan to actually achieve their goal. I've seen no effective strategy at all. Or at least they haven't been able to articulate one. All they seem to want to do is be seen running the Oppression Olympics, telling everyone how shitty black folks have been and still are being treated in comparison to everyone else. Even if we win that race, we still lose.
 
As I've said several times in the past, voting is currency. It only gets us something if we spend it. I'll just quote what I've said before:
voting democratic another cycle doesnt change anything until your vote is not depended on. a fill in shows they still have you in your back pocket, imo. not buying anything in your currency metaphor is a stronger message at this point. to clarify, im speaking at the presidential level
 
voting democratic another cycle doesnt change anything until your vote is not depended on. a fill in shows they still have you in your back pocket, imo. not buying anything in your currency metaphor is a stronger message at this point. to clarify, im speaking at the presidential level

We are going to have to agree to disagree. Everyone wants to get what other groups get, but don't want to do what other groups do to get it. They lobby, donate etc. Other groups will threaten to primary or vote for the other guy, but they normally don't sit out. If they do sit out to cause a defeat, it is targeted, it is well publicized with the candidate being warned in advance, and absence is noted. The organization isn't there for black dems to do that and get on message yet. Everything is scattered. Folks seeking reparations haven't put together a coherent message with clear demands. They are asking folks to stop voting in the hopes of getting noticed. Social media comments with responses from followers making them feel like they are doing something, but no presence in Washington to close the deal. I don't see how that works, but more power to y'all.
 
We are going to have to agree to disagree. Everyone wants to get what other groups get, but don't want to do what other groups do to get it. They lobby, donate etc. Other groups will threaten to primary or vote for the other guy, but they normally don't sit out. If they do sit out to cause a defeat, it is targeted, it is well publicized with the candidate being warned in advance, and absence is noted. The organization isn't there for black dems to do that and get on message yet. Everything is scattered. Folks seeking reparations haven't put together a coherent message with clear demands. They are asking folks to stop voting in the hopes of getting noticed. Social media comments with responses from followers making them feel like they are doing something, but no presence in Washington to close the deal. I don't see how that works, but more power to y'all.
other groups get things done because of power and not being black. rules dont apply the same to everyone. i thought this was obvious with this country. democrats wont respond unless you punch them in the mouth. you think black plight is not known? they say just enough to get your vote. imo, you need something drastic
 
other groups get things done because of power and not being black. rules dont apply the same to everyone. i thought this was obvious with this country. democrats wont respond unless you punch them in the mouth. you think black plight is mot known? they say just enough to get your vote

And how do they get power? How do they exercise said power?
 
And how do they get power? How do they exercise said power?
keeping business, influence and wealth in house until they can make moves with leverage. we are homeless beggars in the grand scheme of things. the problem is every time we do this, white supremacy finds a way to destroy it
 
keeping business, influence and wealth in house until they can make moves with leverage. we are homeless beggars in the grand scheme of things. the problem is every time we do this, white supremacy finds a way to destroy it

No, they have a clear message they bring to the masses, they plan, organize and target to get what they want. They get others on board to amplify their movement. Money is a part of it, but not the biggest part. They make noise and examples out of people. Someone says something antigay or antiJewish, letters and threats start rolling in.

Ppl around here thought I was antiADOS because I simply asked what the plan was going to be. The ends are sound, but the means are trash. I'm not going to denigrate other black folks or not vote, and I wasn't going to amplify the voices of people advocating for this. That doesn't get us closer to the stated goal (vague tho it may be) and furthers white supremacy. Anytime you and the KKK agree on what are good and right actions for black folks to take, it might be a bad idea.
 
Trump can eat shit. Obama can eat shit. The gay ass faggot Democrats can eat shit. Only people you see talking about that voting shit like it's meaningful are the powerless, the ignorant, and their masters.
 
No, they have a clear message they bring to the masses, they plan, organize and target to get what they want. They get others on board to amplify their movement. Money is a part of it, but not the biggest part. They make noise and examples out of people. Someone says something antigay or antiJewish, letters and threats start rolling in.

Ppl around here thought I was antiADOS because I simply asked what the plan was going to be. The ends are sound, but the means are trash. I'm not going to denigrate other black folks or not vote, and I wasn't going to amplify the voices of people advocating for this. That doesn't get us closer to the stated goal (vague tho it may be) and furthers white supremacy. Anytime you and the KKK agree on what is good and right actions for black folks to take, it might be a bad idea.
they control the,media with influence. we cant continue this discussion if you believe there is an equal playing field. our plight is well known,not a secret. you are just saying useless rhetotic of keep trying harder that accomplishes nothing. the game is rigged.

i couldnt care less what the kkk thinks. im not ados so i dont know why you brought them up. but if they can be more focused and come back with power and influence, im not knocking it. trump is,likely to get elected afain anyway so this might be a good time to do it. if we all voted biden and he still lost, what did the black community gain?
 
Andrew Johnson....brotha. Stop man. Just stop. The Republicans entire strategy today is to suppress the Black vote. That’s their strategy. Through disinformation, through redistricting and gerrymandering. That’s literally their playbook.

I never understand why ADOS’ position is to not vote rather than write in a candidate and have your voices heard. Wouldn’t that really show the power of ADOS? Republican won by a certain amount (the difference is less than the number of votes by an ADOS candidate).

Unless - your role is to not have us vote period. There’s a lot more on the ballot than President. Shit - tell ADOS to not vote for President at all. Leave it blank. I could give a fuck. But to tell us not to vote period?

Fuck outta here mayne. Fuck calling people immigrants. Born and raised in the Town - where my history, the power of political activism and rationale, independent thought was bred in me at an early age.

 
they control the,media with influence. we cant continue this discussion if you believe there is an equal playing field. our plight is well known,not a secret. you are just saying useless rhetotic of keep trying harder that accomplishes nothing. the game is rigged.

i couldnt care less what the kkk thinks. im not ados so i dont know why you brought them up. but if they can be more focused and come back with power and influence, im not knocking it. trump is,likely to get elected afain anyway so this might be a good time to do it

Of course the playing field is not even. However, with social media these days, movements can gain traction. People who are asking us not to vote are asking us to forfeit a game without trying. It may be stacked in the favor of others but if we participate we at least place and have influence. You've already accepted nothing we build will last because of WS. That is what sounds like accepting defeat to me.
 
OP and rational folks of BGOL, you're wasting your time. For the most part, I stopped responding to the buffonery. I wasted too much time on it already. The sad part is most of the good posters have left the board and mainly all that's left are these type posters.

I've never seen the board this bad before. The ratio of amount of ignorance to number of posters here might be the highest on the entire internet.
 
I don't see what Tariq Nasheed is saying so wrong.

When Jews are asking for Tangibles and Money for Israel Nobody says anything.

When LGBT has a big ass CNN Forum That are asking the democrats what are they bringing. Nobody says anything

You got Pete Buttplug Saying he is going to give Cash payments and Faster Citizen to Illegal Aliens. Nobody says anything

When Black people are trying to do the same thing. Everybody has a fucking problem.


Everybody wants us to fight there battles and then we get nothing in return? lol :)

When Joe Biden gets into office. He is going to do everything for other groups and will not do shit for black people. Just like Obama
and Then in 2024 The Democrats will come back smiling talking about You have to vote. You don't want a republican to win in 2024! You don't want another trump. Rinse and Fucking Repeat!!
1. What has trump or the Republicans have done for black people?

2. List the tangibles Black people should be asking for??

I'll wait...
 
Trump won because of the back lash due to globalism and Neo-Liberalism. If you look around the world Right Wing Nationalism has taken over.

The Left Wing has gotten too far left with all this woke shit like LGBT/ Pronouns and immigration/identity politics.

Working class people are leaving the Liberalism and going back to conservatism.

Because they are taking about Jobs while the left are taking about Transgenders using bathrooms.

If your a regular working class Person your not going to understand all this woke shit.

That’s why British had the biggest conservative victory since 1935. The left has gotten insane.



so all the TeaParty rallies, taking back their country from the antichrist-radical christian kenyan born secret hawaiian mooslem plant was all about liberalism/globalization?
so making amerikka great again, , obama effigy was about globalization? :roflmao:

Putin and his puppet , the silver soon billionaire trump is a1000x more globalist than a fukking son of a kenyan immigrant could ever be in the system of WS !!...

u're so stuck in label of liberalism/conservatism u dont even bother to inspect their working ideology in reality ( yet u complain about labels! )

DO U EVEN KNOW HOW GLOBALIZM & NEO-COLONIALISM WORK, OR 'R U JUST RECITING JORDAN PETERSON TALKING POINTS ?
 
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Of course the playing field is not even. However, with social media these days, movements can gain traction. People who are asking us not to vote are asking us to forfeit a game without trying. It may be stacked in the favor of others but if we participate we at least place and have influence. You've already accepted nothing we build will last because of WS. That is what sounds like accepting defeat to me.
you cant win a rigged game. you dont play. your way hasnt worked in decades. its going to be the same result and the same answer in 2024. at what point do you change strategy?
 
If a write end gets enough of a showing, they list the name in the results. So for instance, there are folks wanting reparations. Instead of sitting out they can coordinate an effort to write in "reparations candidate" or some other agreed upon name so that it gets enough of a percentage to get attention to their issues and have people seek them out on how to earn their vote.
THIS AINT THE AIM..U KNOW WHAT THE AIM IS
 
This thread is full of coons trying to convince Black people that it's OK to be a coon.

You literally have a GOP election official saying how voter suppression is the plan and then dumb fucks in here saying they're not gonna vote.

Then you have the other dumb fucks yelling "tangibles" but if you ask them SPECIFICALLY what are the tangibles you get crickets.

Someone take a screen shot of this thread so that we can remind the idiots of how stupid they were after the elections.

Cause you notice how a bunch of the anti Hillary clowns disappeared after the elections.
 
If a write in gets enough of a showing, they list the name in the results. So for instance, there are folks wanting reparations. Instead of sitting out they can coordinate an effort to write in "reparations candidate" or some other agreed upon name so that it gets enough of a percentage to get attention to their issues and have people seek them out on how to earn their vote.
Write in voles are wasted votes. Unless an individual files to run, there is no way to distinguish WHO you are voting for. A district can have 20 Tony Johnsons. And the name has to be spelled EXACTLY the same way. Toni, Tone, Tonee wouldn't count towards Tony Johnson.
 
Write in voles are wasted votes. Unless an individual files to run, there is no way to distinguish WHO you are voting for. A district can have 20 Tony Johnsons. And the name has to be spelled EXACTLY the same way. Toni, Tone, Tonee wouldn't count towards Tony Johnson.

I agree, but I'm just saying if they are going to do it, do it so it gets attention and moves them in the direction of their goal (vague as it is).

Normally, if a name gets at least 1% of the vote, the name gets posted in the results. Third party votes where one person writes in Mickey Mouse, another Popeye etc is wasted AND goes unnoticed. So they need to show they made an impact. If they participate in exit polls they can say who they voted for a why, getting news coverage and attention. Right now they are just saying sit out, and they won't be noticed doing that.

Even if people sit out in large numbers, there is no way to prove that was because they want a specific agenda passed. Trying to take credit for folks not showing up after the fact is silly. If they do a coordinated campaign, then they can say we came, but you didn't earn my vote and then go on to tell candidates how to do so. I don't think this election is the one to mess around with, Trump is too dangerous imo, I'm just saying if you're going to do it, have some strategy about it. These folks have no plan, no strategy to win, then get pissed because people who think past emotion in pursuit of action and results don't take them seriously.
 
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