1984: Would you advise Eddie Murphy to take Ghostbusters or Beverly Hills Cop?

[keone]

See that is part that gets me...so Eddie said no from DAY ONE

they hire Ernie off THAT same script and then change damn near the whole thing...

PRIMARILY to reduce the role of the guy they JUST hired???

who they paid HALF his normal rate?

WHY???

racism

 

[playahaitian]

racism

/thread

 

[bgbtylvr]

i would have advised against the rose choker on that album cover. Eddie been hinting since the beginning. We knew Eddie. We knew.

 

[Mo-Better]

OK you have a choice of being the lone hero in Beverly Hills Cop or Ghostbusters where your part of a 4 man team. This s/b be a no brainer. You can't be serious.

 

[Helico-pterFunk]

 

[playahaitian]

I agree. I think the dynamic of the original four was well balanced. Eddie was have been competing with Murray for the attention.

but now think of the comedy improv genius taking place between them, in a scene that only had Eddie, Bill and ghosts?

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

There is a Netflix documentary that talks about the history of Ghostbusters. According to Dan Aykroyd had they hired Murphy, Murray wouldn't have been cast.

 

[shamone]

but now think of the comedy improv genius between in a scene that only had Eddie, Bill and ghosts?

and according to ernie hudson they cut alot of his character's original script out.

 

[playahaitian]

and according to ernie hudson they cut alot of his character's original script out.

Facts

I would love the see that script

 

[playahaitian]

There is a Netflix documentary that talks about the history of Ghostbusters. According to Dan Aykroyd had they hired Murphy, Murray wouldn't have been cast.

Wtf?

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

Wtf?

It's called The Movies That Made Us. There are four eps: Ghostbusters, Die Hard, Dirty Dancing, and Home Alone.

I went back and watched that part again (21:50 if anyone is interested): They actually said two things. The casting director says we thought about Eddie Murphy for Winston. Then they inter-cut with other people, associated with the movie, who said they couldn't afford Murphy at this point in production. Then they cut to Dan saying Murphy had been replaced with Murray anyway.

The whole series is really good if you get a chance to watch it.

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

and according to ernie hudson they cut alot of his character's original script out.

Facts

I would love the see that script

The Movies that Made Us address that whole thing about Ernie's part getting cut down.

 

[eagle force]

Yall forget that BHC was originally written for Sylvester Stallone...if he hadn't passed it up...then Eddie may have done GB...From Wikipedia:

Sylvester Stallone was originally considered for the part of Foley.[5] Stallone gave the script a dramatic rewrite and made it into a straight action film.[4] In one of the previous drafts written for Stallone, the character of Billy Rosewood was called "Siddons" and was killed off half-way through the script during one of the action scenes.[6] Stallone had renamed the lead character to Axel Cobretti, with the character of Michael Tandino being his brother and Jenny Summers playing his love interest. Stallone has said that his script for Beverly Hills Cop would have "looked like the opening scene from Saving Private Ryan on the beaches of Normandy. Believe it or not, the finale was me in a stolen Lamborghini playing chicken with an oncoming freight train being driven by the ultra-slimy bad guy."[4] However, Stallone's ideas were deemed "too expensive" for Paramount to produce and Stallone ultimately pulled out two weeks before filming was to start. Two days later, the film's producers, Simpson and Bruckheimer, convinced Eddie Murphy to replace Stallone in the film, prompting more rewrites.[7] Besides Stallone and Rourke, other actors who were considered for the role of Axel Foley included Richard Pryor, Al Pacino, and James Caan.[8]

yeah the major one where axel(eddie) and jenny were only childhood buddies

 

[playahaitian]

yeah the major one where axel(eddie) and jenny were only childhood buddies

I wonder if jenny was axel / eddie love interest how that would have been received back then?

@4 Dimensional

@ViCiouS

 

[nworba]

U cant be serious

Dont look at him, but I think he is.

 

[Rembrandt Brown]

eddie's role was different than what ernie hudson role was. eddie had a whole back story

This thread went over most people's heads because they couldn't grasp this point.

I haven't seen either movie so I can't weigh in but it's an interesting question.

 

[Rembrandt Brown]

ernie also survived cancer so props to him

I know him as the warden from Oz-- He was really good in his role, as pretty much everyone was in that underrated classic. I'd have liked to see him in more stuff but that's all I've ever seen with him in it.

 

[smoovejazz]

at that point he only did trading places. also its a reasonable question to ask as if Beverly hills cop wouldnt work it could have damaged him. now it turned out different of course.

48 HRS?

 

[smoovejazz]

i do think that it was written for eddie, dont forget eddie's only movie before BHC1 was trading places with Dan Akroyd and he wrote the script.thats the only p[art that makes sense. also eddie confirmed it. he said that he Dan told him about the movie and eddie said something like" nah it sounds like crap""lol

Are people forgetting about 48 HRS?

 

[keone]

This thread went over most people's heads because they couldn't grasp this point.

I haven't seen either movie so I can't weigh in but it's an interesting question.

right people give answers based on what already happened. BHC wasnt a guarantee hit

Are people forgetting about 48 HRS?

true

 

[keone]

Facts

I would love the see that script

went from 8 to 68

 

[furlough]

Are people forgetting about 48 HRS?

just watched it in starz

another 48 hours is on now

 

[Rembrandt Brown]

right people give answers based on what already happened. BHC wasnt a guarantee hit

I think it's fair to incorporate what we know about BHC-- Where they are going wrong is also incorporating what we know about Ghostbusters, forgetting that we don't know what Ghostbusters would have been with Eddie Murphy, who would not have been marginalized like Ernie Hudson. People are saying "Why give up being a star to be the #4 in an ensemble" but we don't know that it wouldn't have been a bigger movie where he was seen as the MVP.

 

[keone]

I think it's fair to incorporate what we know about BHC-- Where they are going wrong is also incorporating what we know about Ghostbusters, forgetting that we don't know what Ghostbusters would have been with Eddie Murphy, who would not have been marginalized like Ernie Hudson. People are saying "Why give up being a star to be the #4 in an ensemble" but we don't know that it wouldn't have been a bigger movie where he was seen as the MVP.

i mean look what it did for ernie people are still saying he had the best lines. and he was sxrewed. eddie was going to be the action man and on top of that he was funny too. he would have killed it.

 

[Max Headrom]

Another interesting tidbit is, "Cobra" is pretty much Stallone's version of what he wanted the BHC movie to be.

 

[shamone]

The Movies that Made Us address that whole thing about Ernie's part getting cut down.

watching it now. aykroid , belushi and eddie as the og ghostbusters .... whoa

 

[keone]

at that time seeing both scripts? before both movies was made

he gives the answer here