Dallas cop enters wrong apartment, kills Black man Botham Jean who lives there [LIVE TRIAL LINK]
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This is highly suspect.Tying up loose ends?
Everybody black and in Dallas better strap up!!!
This is so ironic that such a murder takes place after the trial and on a weekend when most people thoughts are on other things...mostly recreational.
I can imagine a racist cop(s) going out killing cuz one of their own got locked up and not just in Dallas...this case was tell advised across the country
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Botham Jean's brother on courtroom hug with Amber Guyger: 'She still deserves love'
Good Morning AmericaOctober 4, 2019, 10:20 AM PDT
Botham Jean's brother on courtroom hug with Amber Guyger: 'She still deserves love' originally appeared on goodmorningamerica.com
Brandt Jean, the 18-year-old who hugged Amber Guyger, the woman convicted of killing his brother, in court spoke out for the first time about the moment that shocked the nation and spurred a national conversation on forgiveness.
"This is what you have to do to set yourself free," Jean said in an exclusive interview Friday on "Good Morning America." "I didn't really plan on living the rest of my life hating this woman."
"I know that there's something called peace of mind and that's the type of stuff you need to do to have peace of mind," he said. "That is why I wake up happy in the morning. That is why I want to live happy later on in my life."
PHOTO: Brandt Jean appears on 'Good Morning America,' Oct. 4, 2019. (ABC News)
Guyger, a former Dallas police officer, was sentenced Wednesday to serve 10 years in prison for the fatal 2018 killing of Jean's brother, Botham Jean, whom she shot when she mistakenly entered his apartment believing it was her own.
(MORE: Jurors in former Dallas police officer Amber Guyger case speak about decision)
The sentence appeared to initially disappoint the Jean family, who had hoped for far harsher punishment. Several members of the family broke down in tears, shaking their heads as if in disbelief of the jury's decision.
But Brandt Jean took the witness stand and spoke to Guyger, saying, "I know if you go to God and ask him, he will forgive you."
"I love you just like anyone else and I'm not going to hope you rot and die," Brandt Jean told Guyger. "I personally want the best for you. I wasn't going to say this in front of my family, I don't even want you to go to jail. I want the best for you because I know that's exactly what Botham would want for you. Give your life to Christ. I think giving your life to Christ is the best thing Botham would want for you."
(MORE: Botham Jean's mother delivers emotional victim impact statement before sentencing of Amber Guyger: 'My life has not been the same')
Brandt Jean, who is attending his brother's alma mater, Harding University, then asked Judge Tammy Kemp if he could give Guyger a hug, a request the judge granted.
He stepped off the witness stand, met Guyger in front of the judge's bench and embraced as Guyger broke into tears.
ABC News
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https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1179511887500726272
BREAKING: In stunning moment, Botham Jean's brother embraces Amber Guyger after her sentencing for his brother's murder.
"I don't even want you to go to jail. I want the best for you, because I know that's exactly what Botham would want." http://abcn.ws/2puWKDl
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"I knew that I just told her that I forgave her and with usual instances the words only, they mean something, but I felt like that wasn't enough," Brandt Jean said on "GMA" of his request to hug Guyger. "That was just my gesture, my decision of letting her know that I truly forgive her."
"We don't know what's going to happen [in the future]," he said. "I just felt like I had to get that point across to her."
Brandt Jean's unprecedented gesture quickly went viral, with people applauding the teen for his act of forgiveness. But his decision left others, including members of his own family, surprised, a divide acknowledged by the teen.
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A post shared by S. Lee Merritt, Esquire (@leemerrittesq) on Sep 21, 2019 at 6:13am PDT
"Each and every one has steps to get towards actually forgiving. I probably went through those faster than other people. Some people went through it faster than me," he said. "If you are trying to forgive [Guyger], understand that she is a human being. She still deserves love."
"She made a mistake that she probably truly regrets so if you want to forgive her, just understand that God forgave you," Brandt Jean added. "I know that every time I ask God for forgiveness, he forgives me, so who am I to not forgive someone who asks?"
(MORE: Death of an innocent man: Timeline of wrong-apartment murder trial of Amber Guyger)
At a news conference on Friday afternoon, Brandt Jean said that he didn't know the cameras in the courtroom were on when he spoke to Guyger and hugged her.
"At the time, I didn't know the cameras were on after the sentencing. I saw Amber's family leave the room along with Amber and we left and came back [into the courtroom]. Upon coming back I didn't think any cameras would be on," he said at the news conference.
The family's lawyer followed up, saying that Brandt Jean's action "showed incredible bravery, but it wasn't for show."
Bertrum and Allison Jean, the parents of Brandt and Botham Jean, told ABC News Thursday they were surprised by the remarkable act of mercy their 18-year-old son showed Guyger after her sentencing.
Bertrum Jean said that while he shared his child's sentiments, he hopes the compassion his son displayed to Guyger will "help her recognize the folly of her ways."
"That was not saying there are no consequences for someone's actions, for her actions," said Bertrum Jean, a minister in St. Lucia. "But he forgave her and it is all right to forgive. Jesus said we need to forgive. So we can forgive people, right?
"I think what we saw was a jury that came back with a verdict of guilty of murder. That is significant to me," Allison Jean told ABC News. "No matter how long she serves that sentence, she has a record that she is a murderer."
Botham and Brandt Jean's sister, Allisa Findley, released a statement through the family's attorney saying she admired what her younger brother did in court.
"What Brandt did, I truly admire," she wrote. "I pray everyday to get to the point of forgiveness and he is already there. That's a weight lifted from him. He hugged our brothers killer to free himself and I stand behind him 100%."
View this post on Instagram
Message from #BothamJean's big sister. #listentoblackwomen
A post shared by S. Lee Merritt, Esquire(@leemerrittesq) on Oct 4, 2019 at 2:24am PDT
The family's attorney, Lee Merritt, acknowledged "mixed emotions" in the Jean family over Brandt Jean's courtroom hug with Guyger, but called it "an important first step" toward easing the family's pain.
"Everyone in that family is hurting desperately because they loved Botham Jean and they won't be able to get past that hurt if they can't forgive his killer," he said on "GMA." "They believe that, I believe that and so it was an important first step."
Merritt also confirmed the Jean family hoped Guyger would be sentenced closer to the 28 years in prison recommended by the district attorney, but pointed out that legal justice is different than mercy.
"That will be closer to justice, but that is a whole separate conversation from the spiritual release of forgiveness," he said.
(MORE: Former officer convicted of murder in wrong-apartment killing of innocent man)
Daryl Washington, an attorney who also represents the Jean family, told ABC News both the family and the the public should consider it "a victory" that Guyger was held responsible for Botham Jean's death.
"As for the 10 years, it’s really hard to make a determination how many years you give someone for a crime," Washington said Friday on "The Briefing Room." "We know that there have been black males throughout this country who have been sentenced to prison much longer for a lesser crime."
"We just hope that during this time it gives Amber Guyger the opportunity to reflect and somehow one day she’s going to come out and admit that what she did was wrong," he said.
ABC News' Bill Hutchinson, Marcus Moore, Meghan Keneally and Julia Jacobo contributed to this report.
Good Morning AmericaOctober 4, 2019, 10:20 AM PDT
Botham Jean's brother on courtroom hug with Amber Guyger: 'She still deserves love' originally appeared on goodmorningamerica.com
Brandt Jean, the 18-year-old who hugged Amber Guyger, the woman convicted of killing his brother, in court spoke out for the first time about the moment that shocked the nation and spurred a national conversation on forgiveness.
"This is what you have to do to set yourself free," Jean said in an exclusive interview Friday on "Good Morning America." "I didn't really plan on living the rest of my life hating this woman."
"I know that there's something called peace of mind and that's the type of stuff you need to do to have peace of mind," he said. "That is why I wake up happy in the morning. That is why I want to live happy later on in my life."
PHOTO: Brandt Jean appears on 'Good Morning America,' Oct. 4, 2019. (ABC News)
Guyger, a former Dallas police officer, was sentenced Wednesday to serve 10 years in prison for the fatal 2018 killing of Jean's brother, Botham Jean, whom she shot when she mistakenly entered his apartment believing it was her own.
(MORE: Jurors in former Dallas police officer Amber Guyger case speak about decision)
The sentence appeared to initially disappoint the Jean family, who had hoped for far harsher punishment. Several members of the family broke down in tears, shaking their heads as if in disbelief of the jury's decision.
But Brandt Jean took the witness stand and spoke to Guyger, saying, "I know if you go to God and ask him, he will forgive you."
"I love you just like anyone else and I'm not going to hope you rot and die," Brandt Jean told Guyger. "I personally want the best for you. I wasn't going to say this in front of my family, I don't even want you to go to jail. I want the best for you because I know that's exactly what Botham would want for you. Give your life to Christ. I think giving your life to Christ is the best thing Botham would want for you."
(MORE: Botham Jean's mother delivers emotional victim impact statement before sentencing of Amber Guyger: 'My life has not been the same')
Brandt Jean, who is attending his brother's alma mater, Harding University, then asked Judge Tammy Kemp if he could give Guyger a hug, a request the judge granted.
He stepped off the witness stand, met Guyger in front of the judge's bench and embraced as Guyger broke into tears.
ABC News
✔@ABC
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1179511887500726272
BREAKING: In stunning moment, Botham Jean's brother embraces Amber Guyger after her sentencing for his brother's murder.
"I don't even want you to go to jail. I want the best for you, because I know that's exactly what Botham would want." http://abcn.ws/2puWKDl
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"I knew that I just told her that I forgave her and with usual instances the words only, they mean something, but I felt like that wasn't enough," Brandt Jean said on "GMA" of his request to hug Guyger. "That was just my gesture, my decision of letting her know that I truly forgive her."
"We don't know what's going to happen [in the future]," he said. "I just felt like I had to get that point across to her."
Brandt Jean's unprecedented gesture quickly went viral, with people applauding the teen for his act of forgiveness. But his decision left others, including members of his own family, surprised, a divide acknowledged by the teen.
View this post on Instagram
A post shared by S. Lee Merritt, Esquire (@leemerrittesq) on Sep 21, 2019 at 6:13am PDT
"Each and every one has steps to get towards actually forgiving. I probably went through those faster than other people. Some people went through it faster than me," he said. "If you are trying to forgive [Guyger], understand that she is a human being. She still deserves love."
"She made a mistake that she probably truly regrets so if you want to forgive her, just understand that God forgave you," Brandt Jean added. "I know that every time I ask God for forgiveness, he forgives me, so who am I to not forgive someone who asks?"
(MORE: Death of an innocent man: Timeline of wrong-apartment murder trial of Amber Guyger)
At a news conference on Friday afternoon, Brandt Jean said that he didn't know the cameras in the courtroom were on when he spoke to Guyger and hugged her.
"At the time, I didn't know the cameras were on after the sentencing. I saw Amber's family leave the room along with Amber and we left and came back [into the courtroom]. Upon coming back I didn't think any cameras would be on," he said at the news conference.
The family's lawyer followed up, saying that Brandt Jean's action "showed incredible bravery, but it wasn't for show."
Bertrum and Allison Jean, the parents of Brandt and Botham Jean, told ABC News Thursday they were surprised by the remarkable act of mercy their 18-year-old son showed Guyger after her sentencing.
Bertrum Jean said that while he shared his child's sentiments, he hopes the compassion his son displayed to Guyger will "help her recognize the folly of her ways."
"That was not saying there are no consequences for someone's actions, for her actions," said Bertrum Jean, a minister in St. Lucia. "But he forgave her and it is all right to forgive. Jesus said we need to forgive. So we can forgive people, right?
"I think what we saw was a jury that came back with a verdict of guilty of murder. That is significant to me," Allison Jean told ABC News. "No matter how long she serves that sentence, she has a record that she is a murderer."
Botham and Brandt Jean's sister, Allisa Findley, released a statement through the family's attorney saying she admired what her younger brother did in court.
"What Brandt did, I truly admire," she wrote. "I pray everyday to get to the point of forgiveness and he is already there. That's a weight lifted from him. He hugged our brothers killer to free himself and I stand behind him 100%."
View this post on Instagram
Message from #BothamJean's big sister. #listentoblackwomen
A post shared by S. Lee Merritt, Esquire(@leemerrittesq) on Oct 4, 2019 at 2:24am PDT
The family's attorney, Lee Merritt, acknowledged "mixed emotions" in the Jean family over Brandt Jean's courtroom hug with Guyger, but called it "an important first step" toward easing the family's pain.
"Everyone in that family is hurting desperately because they loved Botham Jean and they won't be able to get past that hurt if they can't forgive his killer," he said on "GMA." "They believe that, I believe that and so it was an important first step."
Merritt also confirmed the Jean family hoped Guyger would be sentenced closer to the 28 years in prison recommended by the district attorney, but pointed out that legal justice is different than mercy.
"That will be closer to justice, but that is a whole separate conversation from the spiritual release of forgiveness," he said.
(MORE: Former officer convicted of murder in wrong-apartment killing of innocent man)
Daryl Washington, an attorney who also represents the Jean family, told ABC News both the family and the the public should consider it "a victory" that Guyger was held responsible for Botham Jean's death.
"As for the 10 years, it’s really hard to make a determination how many years you give someone for a crime," Washington said Friday on "The Briefing Room." "We know that there have been black males throughout this country who have been sentenced to prison much longer for a lesser crime."
"We just hope that during this time it gives Amber Guyger the opportunity to reflect and somehow one day she’s going to come out and admit that what she did was wrong," he said.
ABC News' Bill Hutchinson, Marcus Moore, Meghan Keneally and Julia Jacobo contributed to this report.
She made a mistake that she probably truly regrets so if you want to forgive her, just understand that God forgave you," Brandt Jean added. "I know that every time I ask God for forgiveness, he forgives me, so who am I to not forgive someone who asks?"
Bruh, no she did not make mistake. The devil knew exactly what she was doing....
Bruh, no she did not make mistake. The devil knew exactly what she was doing....
This is a comment from the brother of the lady that was punched by the asian guy in Tulsa.
Bertrum Jean said that while he shared his child's sentiments, he hopes the compassion his son displayed to Guyger will "help her recognize the folly of her ways."
Mr. Bertrum Jean does not realize he’s dealing with an ungodly creature....
Mr. Bertrum Jean does not realize he’s dealing with an ungodly creature....
Man wtf?
Now yall see why our brother Micah went ham?
Ferguson
Not a loose end per se. He testified.
Wtf?
S Lee Merritt is saying Brown got shot in his chest and his mouth...at close range...its a saturday night so it wont get a lot of coverage..
By Monday Sports will be the hot topic..his death will be a side note on pg18 in the newspapers if that.
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In Tennessee, my home state, where I grew up, shooting someone in the leg is charged as aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
It is not an automatic attempted murder charge.
We're discussing two slightly different subjects in a sense.
That's what I think you didn't get.
To a jury, in court, you can't say I meant to shoot a person in a leg.
If you point a gun at someone, you have to intend to kill them, only because your life 'was' in danger.
After the fact is a whole nother story, if you only shot the person in the leg.
Just wow man. Just as those social activists brothas in Ferguson were murdered. Obviously they're sending a message take a stand against white supremacy they're taking you down
This dumbass.
If anything, Jun asked a bunch of Chicken heads for forgiveness in exchange for 50% off of their bundles. FOH!Was he present when those Brothers were out there trying to dissuade those women, and where is his sister shopping NOW?
This muhfucka has no sense of context either.
We are talking about the same thing.
In Tennessee you can absolutely tell a jury you didnt want to kill someone, so you aimed for the leg.
It is absolutely an effective and successful defense against worse charges.
What experiences or how much, if any, do you have with handguns?
David Armstrong the lead investigator coon who got up there and said amber guyger did nothing wrong needs to be investigated.
Alright. But the case is over. Unless they threatened him Before and she wasn’t suppose to get no time.
Orrrrr maybe he was the intended target in the first place.
Orrrrr maybe bothem Niccas had info on Dallas pd and was targets.
Have had my concealed permit in Texas for a few years. Here you have to take an all day class and pass proficiency in shooting on the range. You take quizzes on laws and by the end of the day take a test concerning ins and outs of the law. Also test on loading and shooting. I also took a separate course on self defense later on, which my instructor teaches to military and law enforcement.
I am by no means an expert, but certain things about laws I paid attn to just in case I found myself in a situation.
I know for certain things like pointing a gun at another human being, you better have the intent to use deadly force. And an attorney will tear you a new asshole saying "you" aren't an expert marksman or whatever, as "no one" is, to a jury or lawyer, to determine exactly the path that a bullet will take. A lawyer would rip apart that statement.
And as a cop, Guyger, if she still had a job, her duty as a police officer, can't say that she intended to only hit him in the leg. Then you should not be shooting in his direction. You have to aim always for center mass, the torso and your intentions must be to kill if you raise your weapon and point it at another human being. Period. This is not television.
The way we were taught in class, was if you shoot at someone, you have to keep shooting til there is no longer a threat. You have to only fire your weapon if your life was in imminent danger. Guyger was also wrong shooting at him and not seeing a weapon of any kind, even if he was an intruder in her house. He had to be coming at her, rushing her with a weapon, then that's another story. But to a jury, he better of had a weapon as well, after a shooting. Of course her being a white cop, female, crying helped her whole situation.
If someone says another state feels otherwise, then hey I don't know what those laws in those other states are, but what I learned in Texas is just that.
Two observations:
You are relaying that in the State of Texas, if you draw your weapon, you damn well intend to use deadly force.
There is such a mindset...never draw your weapon unless you intend to use it.
As stated, not all States treat it like that. It DOES matter what damage you did.
As an aside, while stationed in Germany, we'd get into brawls with the Turks, who were known to smash a bottle and stab a ninja in the ass. They'd stab you in the buttocks because it was a demonstration that they didn't intend to kill you. If they stabbed you in the torso or near an artery, in Turkey, that was or could be considered attempted murder.
Secondly, I think that you are relatively new to firearms and you're speaking to YOUR level of proficiency.
Anyone who hunts regularly, especially fowl, or spend a shit ton of time at a range hones their skills. I was in the Army and went to the Range regularly. I worked and trained in Gunnery from 9mm to .50 cal (Browning not Barret Sniper Rifle, that is) and the MK19 Grenade Launcher. I trained in MOUT, which is pretty similar to what a SWAT Team does and we trained in Shoot Houses.
I'm proficient enough in, controlled situations or environments, to shoot to injure and not to kill. Of course if one is caught in a crossfire or all out chaos/ambush, that all goes out the window.
If you're trained and proficient, you can put the round where you want it. A Sniper CAN just wound you, they don't have to aim for the hear or heart unless the intent is to snuff you immediately.
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