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ProjectingI don’t think y’all get what people are saying when they ask questions about this movement. This is a valid issue. I agree that it is important for ADOS to mention and bring this history to light. It’s the “means” that is being questioned.
Bringing up the long history of government sanctioned discrimination and angst towards our People = important movement.
Using this historical fact and important argument to justify encouraging our people not to vote or only call out Democrats and not both parties = a misguided movement that is being exploited by Republicans and Russian bots who know the path to Republican control is to sow discord amongst our people and put up as many roadblocks to voting.
See they don’t want you to vote. If you get to the ballot and even write in a vote for President, you might fuck around and vote for an important state or local issue that also impacts are people. And they don’t want that.
Since @Watcher @Darrkman @mangobob79 @Mr. Met @Big Tex @Camille @gutsdabeast @Ninja05 etc have pretty much all stated how much supporting reparations isnt going to happen (either for themselves or their fav. Dem member), have your favorite politicians announced anything substantive against WS?
Thanks for the response, but you literally did not answer nor understand my question.You misunderstand my past comments. I'm not anti reparations, I'm pro EFFECTIVE action if you are going to talk about and pursue them. Bitching and moaning isn't a plan. I haven't been able to go through the info Va posted for me yet to see if it obtains a plan, but if it does, going from the comments from you and other posters, it hasn't been made clear enough for you all to grasp there is one and articulate how things get done and passed into law.
Thus far all I've seen is a set of grievances voiced and attacks on immigrant blacks. The grievances may be valid, and people need to know about them, but pointing them out loudly and expecting that to evoke change is even less than our ancestors did during civil rights. I used to have a supervisor that wouldn't listen to complaints or criticism unless it was constructive. We couldn't raise concerns unless we also had an action plan to correct it. Thus far, what I've seen is a group of folks who want the spotlight on them while they run the Oppression Olympics, where even if you win you've lost. We have been victims of WS, but accepting this victim mentality where all you can do is talk about the wrongs done to you and feel powerless to change it, I can't get with that.
I had a friend who got sick years ago. I don't recall the condition but it weakened him and he was on a lot of meds. At first he fought against it, then the attention and sympathy for his condition and the responses from others about his doing so well with all the issues he has and how amazing he is to keep going started to affect him and he started to live for that feedback. He stopped trying to improve his condition and started embracing it as part of his identity. He was (it appeared to me at least) no longer interested in getting well because being sick benefited him. I don't want being diseased, defective, oppressed etc synonymous with black folks. I want the victory over what ails us to be the story. Reparations can and probably should be part of the story, but so far what I see being articulated, and again I haven't read and viewed the info Va posted, is embracing what ails us, bringing up to folks how they were complicit in our illness, and railing against others affected by the same disease. Yes, you want to be aware of what made you sick and avoid or eradicate it, but just identifying it and talking about it, that's not a cure.
Thanks for the response, but you literally did not answer nor understand my question.
I tagged you all because you yourselves either flat out dont want reparations, or are backing candidates who dont want reparations.
This was not a reparations question I posed. It was a white supremacy question .
Since you all have told me the policies for Black people are far fetched, is policies stopping WS also too hard to enact?
I understand.I didn't address your question I addressed your claim about my supporting reparations. I absolutely support reparations, but I'm not going to retweet and amplify folks with no plan who are spreading hate by disparaging other blacks who are immigrants.
We already have anti racism, anti discrimination and hate laws on the books. Enforcement is the issue.
The dems have already proposed federal guidelines for policing, but nothing gets passed with the GOP. Obama's DOJ did what they could with consent decrees over police abuses. Everyone sounded the alarm when Trump's DOJ tried to roll back the consent decrees, made changes to their civil rights division, said they were going to focus on Muslims instead of white hate crimes and tried to get black activists labeled a national threat as black identity extremists. Y'all said we were caping for Muslims, both parties are the same and voting doesn't matter.
Since @Watcher @Darrkman @mangobob79 @Mr. Met @Big Tex @Camille @gutsdabeast @Ninja05 etc have pretty much all stated how much supporting reparations isnt going to happen (either for themselves or their fav. Dem member), have your favorite politicians announced anything substantive against WS?
Met will come in here post some nobody from youtube to diss us and declare our nationality "bullshit". Then go in a Jamaican thread and be serious as a heart attack and rep his shit with pride. FOH! Alot of the anti ADOS sentiment is coming from these NYers who ALREADY have negative views and tensions with ADOS.
Met, Darrkman, Mangobob, Big Tex, etc are all non ADOS NYers.
Talib Kweli, Joy Ann Reid, NYers.
Met wants to be able to be "black American" one day to fill out that job app or better yet be able to speak for and dictate our culture to us. Then be Jamaican the next and be exclusionary to us with no concern if we left out or not. His anger is ADOS no longer allows the fence jumping.
I understand.
Thanks
You make an excellent point and it’s something I’ve been ruminating over. Any serious ADOS social and political action will probably need to come from areas where the black media, politics, and social life is ADOS-controlled. Unfortunately, too many black spheres are under the yoke of white libs and their black lackeys, many of whom are 1st and 2nd generation immigrants. NYC especially, and I would add DC and Miami as well. May as well write off the “black leadership”, Af-Am Studies departments and such, from most elite universities too, and maybe even some HBCUs. They’re so thoroughly embedded in our shit.
It will truly have to be grassroots. But here’s the thing. A lot of ADOS black people, particularly more rural and isolated populations, simply aren’t aware of this shit. They still have the flattened “black is black” and simply haven’t encountered many of these immigrant Africans and West Indians. They don’t know about the shitty superior attitudes and usurpation going on. Obama was their first exposure to it. So it will definitely take grassroots action way beyond Twitter and the internet to get the word out to them.
ADOS support of Reagan and Trump is disgusting to me.
I hope the ADOS in this thread are clapping back at these coons.

Hell, they can restrict foreign blacks from coming into their countries and societies if need be. But if we try that.......
What are your thoughts on this?This has probably already been posted here, but this is the quickest argument for reparations. And a side note.....this is a clear example of the pros/cons of a leader. The ADOS movement having an individual that could pitch this like this would be powerful. The other issue is that the U.S. neutralized non-white leaders with the best of them..
It’s not support of Reagan and Trump. It’s critically assessing the actions, or lack thereof, of the Democrats just as much as we do the Republicans, along with critically analyzing the pan-Afrikan ideologies of the ADOS critics.
You quoted Taharqa’s post which has a series of tweets about several issues, only to scroll past all of those points to scold the ADOS movement for “supporting” Reagan and Trump.
Let’s critically look at all of the points made in those tweets, shall we?
Despite all of this, you say the ADOS movement is wrong. If so, can you please address the above points and how these issues should be addressed? Your response will be appreciated.
- Nigerian women, mostly from the Edo state, are being tricked and trafficked as prostitutes to Italy. Why the Edo people and who’s doing the trafficking? Is this a tribal or ethnic thing? But “we all black”, right?
- 994 Nigerians are being deported from Ghana? But I thought “we all black”? Funny how ADOS can’t have our own identity while non-ADOS black people can.
Hell, they can restrict foreign blacks from coming into their countries and societies if need be. But if we try that.......
- Cynthia Erivo, a Black Brit of Nigerian descent who has tweets mocking Black American “ghetto” accents and is best friends with another Nigerian, Luvvie, who has numerous tweets mocking Black American slave speech, is not only playing a Black American freedom fighter from slavery - Harriet Tubman, but also has voiced another Black American freedom fighter - Rosa Parks. Both roles require her to speak in deep Black American southern accents. The very speech patterns she and Luvvie have mocked.
What are your thoughts on this?
- How many black people were murdered by police during the Obama Administration with a “black” Democratic president and “black” Democratic Attorney General at the head of the Justice Department? What definitive actions were taken by these men in response to those unjust killings?
- In a mostly Democratic city like Los Angeles, there is massive homelessness, with the bulk of those homeless being ADOS black men. In overwhelmingly Democratic cities like San Francisco, NYC, and DC, there has been massive gentrification with large-scale displacement of black residents. What do you suggest black people do in light of this happening in a Democratic-dominated city?
Barack Obama could’ve pitched like this. Michelle Obama could pitch like this. Kamala Harris could pitch like this. Cory Booker could pitch like this.
Another one who's playing dumb to the question I askedYou dudes are so predictable it's sad. I have never said I'm anti reparations. I'm anti ADOS, Yvette and Tone cause I know that they're all fronts for conservative whites that want Black people to not vote. None of you dudes can explain the ados website praising Reagan until it was pointed out and then they quickly changed it. None of y'all can explain Antonio Moore writing articles attacking John Lewis for Newsmax.
We see y'all and the company you keep.
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Since @Watcher @Darrkman @mangobob79 @Mr. Met @Big Tex @Camille @gutsdabeast @Ninja05 etc have pretty much all stated how much supporting reparations isnt going to happen (either for themselves or their fav. Dem member), have your favorite politicians announced anything substantive against WS?
It’s not support of Reagan and Trump. It’s critically assessing the actions, or lack thereof, of the Democrats just as much as we do the Republicans, along with critically analyzing the pan-Afrikan ideologies of the ADOS critics.
You quoted Taharqa’s post which has a series of tweets about several issues, only to scroll past all of those points to scold the ADOS movement for “supporting” Reagan and Trump.
Let’s critically look at all of the points made in those tweets, shall we?
Despite all of this, you say the ADOS movement is wrong. If so, can you please address the above points and how these issues should be addressed? Your response will be appreciated.
- Nigerian women, mostly from the Edo state, are being tricked and trafficked as prostitutes to Italy. Why the Edo people and who’s doing the trafficking? Is this a tribal or ethnic thing? But “we all black”, right?
- 994 Nigerians are being deported from Ghana? But I thought “we all black”? Funny how ADOS can’t have our own identity while non-ADOS black people can.
Hell, they can restrict foreign blacks from coming into their countries and societies if need be. But if we try that.......
- Cynthia Erivo, a Black Brit of Nigerian descent who has tweets mocking Black American “ghetto” accents and is best friends with another Nigerian, Luvvie, who has numerous tweets mocking Black American slave speech, is not only playing a Black American freedom fighter from slavery - Harriet Tubman, but also has voiced another Black American freedom fighter - Rosa Parks. Both roles require her to speak in deep Black American southern accents. The very speech patterns she and Luvvie have mocked.
What are your thoughts on this?
- How many black people were murdered by police during the Obama Administration with a “black” Democratic president and “black” Democratic Attorney General at the head of the Justice Department? What definitive actions were taken by these men in response to those unjust killings?
- In a mostly Democratic city like Los Angeles, there is massive homelessness, with the bulk of those homeless being ADOS black men. In overwhelmingly Democratic cities like San Francisco, NYC, and DC, there has been massive gentrification with large-scale displacement of black residents. What do you suggest black people do in light of this happening in a Democratic-dominated city?
Democrats can’t do anything of substance right now because they are the minority. Which is why I have always been for less white people in power. Currently I think that’s through the Democratic Party,
Beto is stepping up his game.
BETO O'ROURKE CALL TRUMP WHITE SUPREMACIST WITHOUT HESITATION
https://m.jpost.com/American-Politi...p-white-supremacist-without-hesitation-597996
AOC
But that’s all they can do right now is talk until we remove a significant amount of white people in the government.
Shit. I did answer your question.Now answer to what I asked eh?
We know theh racist. There's no need to state the obvious. What policies are they implementing in the Democrats controlled house to address WS?
Gimme something to vote for..
You misunderstand my past comments. I'm not anti reparations, I'm pro EFFECTIVE action if you are going to talk about and pursue them. Bitching and moaning isn't a plan. I haven't been able to go through the info Va posted for me yet to see if it obtains a plan, but if it does, going from the comments from you and other posters, it hasn't been made clear enough for you all to grasp there is one and articulate how things get done and passed into law.
Thus far all I've seen is a set of grievances voiced and attacks on immigrant blacks. The grievances may be valid, and people need to know about them, but pointing them out loudly and expecting that to evoke change is even less than our ancestors did during civil rights. I used to have a supervisor that wouldn't listen to complaints or criticism unless it was constructive. We couldn't raise concerns unless we also had an action plan to correct it. Thus far, what I've seen is a group of folks who want the spotlight on them while they run the Oppression Olympics, where even if you win you've lost. We have been victims of WS, but accepting this victim mentality where all you can do is talk about the wrongs done to you and feel powerless to change it, I can't get with that.
I had a friend who got sick years ago. I don't recall the condition but it weakened him and he was on a lot of meds. At first he fought against it, then the attention and sympathy for his condition and the responses from others about his doing so well with all the issues he has and how amazing he is to keep going started to affect him and he started to live for that feedback. He stopped trying to improve his condition and started embracing it as part of his identity. He was (it appeared to me at least) no longer interested in getting well because being sick benefited him. I don't want being diseased, defective, oppressed etc synonymous with black folks. I want the victory over what ails us to be the story. Reparations can and probably should be part of the story, but so far what I see being articulated, and again I haven't read and viewed the info Va posted, is embracing what ails us, bringing up to folks how they were complicit in our illness, and railing against others affected by the same disease. Yes, you want to be aware of what made you sick and avoid or eradicate it, but just identifying it and talking about it, that's not a cure.
1st, I didnt criticize the movement, because not all of yall are in on defending these cac's honor on some "both parties are the same" shit. Thats Thats why I said I hope ADOS in this thread check these coons.
2nd, KT gives multiple tweets in a single post addressing a variety of things. I agree with most but I pick which ones I address. Thats how this works. I dont tell you what to quote or not quote.
3rd, Im not Nigerian, I dont know anything about their reality. I do know this though, they are NOT in the way of ADOS getting reparations, unless you let cacs distract you with their deflection games. I suspect that besides your talking points you know nothing about them and their reality either.
4th, you can and should control who gets to come to the US. Where were you when Obama was doing just that?
5th, you can have your own identity and Ive never said otherwise.
6th obviously the role should go to an ADOS woman, but Ill remind you that the director is ADOS and she the one who gets to chose.
7th I know they went after Fergurson PD, which is more then Trump would ever do. Look, im not gonna defend Obama on everything, he wasnt perfect, but he did speak at lenght on those issues. Cacs didnt listen but Obama told and them the truth. Trump and his family are out here trolling the country with " oh but look at all the blacks who killed each other in chicago". I mean...
8th, I dont know enough about the homelessness issue to get into solutions. Whats causing it to reach those levels?
How do we combat gentrification? Ok, we teach our kids about budgeting, spending, economics, and the power of owning land. Even if its the cheapest condo you can find, its better then renting. Cacs learn about these things much earlier then we do, mostly because their parents pass shit down to them, but we have the power to do the same for our children.
It’s not support of Reagan and Trump. It’s critically assessing the actions, or lack thereof, of the Democrats just as much as we do the Republicans, along with critically analyzing the pan-Afrikan ideologies of the ADOS critics.
You quoted Taharqa’s post which has a series of tweets about several issues, only to scroll past all of those points to scold the ADOS movement for “supporting” Reagan and Trump.
Let’s critically look at all of the points made in those tweets, shall we?
- Nigerian women, mostly from the Edo state, are being tricked and trafficked as prostitutes to Italy. Why the Edo people and who’s doing the trafficking? Is this a tribal or ethnic thing? But “we all black”, right?
Despite all of this, you say the ADOS movement is wrong. If so, can you please address the above points and how these issues should be addressed? Your response will be appreciated.
- 994 Nigerians are being deported from Ghana? But I thought “we all black”? Funny how ADOS can’t have our own identity while non-ADOS black people can.
Hell, they can restrict foreign blacks from coming into their countries and societies if need be. But if we try that.......
- Cynthia Erivo, a Black Brit of Nigerian descent who has tweets mocking Black American “ghetto” accents and is best friends with another Nigerian, Luvvie, who has numerous tweets mocking Black American slave speech, is not only playing a Black American freedom fighter from slavery - Harriet Tubman, but also has voiced another Black American freedom fighter - Rosa Parks. Both roles require her to speak in deep Black American southern accents. The very speech patterns she and Luvvie have mocked.
What are your thoughts on this? (why dont u take up with teh black american casting director and companies ?)
- How many black people were murdered by police during the Obama Administration with a “black” Democratic president and “black” Democratic Attorney General at the head of the Justice Department? What definitive actions were taken by these men in response to those unjust killings?
- In a mostly Democratic city like Los Angeles, there is massive homelessness, with the bulk of those homeless being ADOS black men. In overwhelmingly Democratic cities like San Francisco, NYC, and DC, there has been massive gentrification with large-scale displacement of black residents. What do you suggest black people do in light of this happening in a Democratic-dominated city?
I don't think so. You can't be a politician or tied to the political machinery and pitch like this.
And it's bananas to even think Obama could pitch this. The GOP wouldn't even take up his S.C. nominee.
eiptome of uniformed unread sheep who believes half truths and carefully curated negative narrative to push and agenda! faux news will love u
Democrats can’t do anything of substance right now because they are the minority. Which is why I have always been for less white people in power. Currently I think that’s through the Democratic Party,
Beto is stepping up his game.
BETO O'ROURKE CALL TRUMP WHITE SUPREMACIST WITHOUT HESITATION
https://m.jpost.com/American-Politi...p-white-supremacist-without-hesitation-597996
AOC
But that’s all they can do right now is talk until we remove a significant amount of white people in the government.
Any critique of ADOS........"you're against reparations"...........so childish.
I don't know about you, but I have this burning desire and ultimate goal to put these black skunk coonservatives that make a living off promoting the negative of black folk to appease whiteys ( not real conservatives i.e. Tony Brown, Stanley Crouch, even Armstrong Williams ) out of business.
What better way than legitimately taking over on every level.
Check this:
Black woman is most powerful woman in entertainment still. Black coach wins Superbowl in February. Blacks may dominate Oscars in March. We very well may have a black prez in 2008. Numerous brothers moving up in executive positons including my Jints hiiring a brother as GM.
I was listening tp WBAI 99.5FM in NY on MLK and people were collecting donations talking about still being in the struggle. At what point does this 'struggle' end?
When does 'We shall overcome' become 'We have overrun'?