Duncan would have been great no matter the system; one could argue that the spurs system held him back more than it help him; he was that good....
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Report: Chris Paul unpopular as union president, because he has prioritized stars
The NBA’s 2017 Collective Bargaining Agreement helped star players.
A new super-max contract allows players with eight or nine years experience to earn more money than they would’ve otherwise. The regular max increased. The over-36 rule became the over-38 rule, which applies to everyone, but stars are far more likely to get offered long-term deals that deep into their career.
The National Basketball Players Association president: Chris Paul. Two members of the executive board at that time: LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony.
Paul and LeBron were too experienced to benefit from the super max. But they signed larger max deals last summer than they could’ve under the previous system – Paul with the Rockets, LeBron with the Lakers.
With Paul getting traded to the Thunder for Russell Westbrook, players don’t exactly sound enamored with their union president.
Ethan Sherwood Strauss of The Athletic:
The reign of CP3 is not popular with the NBA’s lower classes
Some players around the league laughed when union president Chris Paul and his massive contract got dealt to the rebuilding Thunder for Russell Westbrook. Why? Because Paul’s regime is not viewed as one devoted to serving the NBA’s middle and lower classes.
“They advocate for the interests of max players and super-max players,” one veteran player said of Paul and company. “Basically, the CBA has helped the whole banana boat crew from back in the day. It’s taken from the midlevel. I think middle-tier players aren’t getting that mid level money anymore.
“I think just that huge super max has had cost. Teams are putting all their eggs in one basket to keep that super-max guy. It’s dried up the salary cap. I don’t see it as sustainable long term.”
Players collectively receive a certain percentage of revenue. Two major questions in CBA negotiations: What percentage of revenue should that be? How should players divide that share?
This griping is about the second question.
If no there were no individual max salary, superstars would get paid even more. They’re so important – both on the court and as marketing forces. A single player can swing a franchise far more in basketball than any other major team sport.
restricts stars’ earnings, leaving more money for middle-class players." data-reactid="29" style="margin-bottom: 1em; color: rgb(38, 40, 42); font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The CBA already restricts stars’ earnings, leaving more money for middle-class players.
Legitimate questions exist about whether stars should face even stiffer restrictions. There are far more middle-class players, after all. In a one-person, one-vote union, the middle-class majority holds more power. They could use it to out-vote Paul and other stars on anything. They could even oust Paul.
But don’t get it twisted: Stars are already sacrificing so middle-class players can earn more.
The NBA’s 2017 Collective Bargaining Agreement helped star players.
A new super-max contract allows players with eight or nine years experience to earn more money than they would’ve otherwise. The regular max increased. The over-36 rule became the over-38 rule, which applies to everyone, but stars are far more likely to get offered long-term deals that deep into their career.
The National Basketball Players Association president: Chris Paul. Two members of the executive board at that time: LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony.
Paul and LeBron were too experienced to benefit from the super max. But they signed larger max deals last summer than they could’ve under the previous system – Paul with the Rockets, LeBron with the Lakers.
With Paul getting traded to the Thunder for Russell Westbrook, players don’t exactly sound enamored with their union president.
Ethan Sherwood Strauss of The Athletic:
The reign of CP3 is not popular with the NBA’s lower classes
Some players around the league laughed when union president Chris Paul and his massive contract got dealt to the rebuilding Thunder for Russell Westbrook. Why? Because Paul’s regime is not viewed as one devoted to serving the NBA’s middle and lower classes.
“They advocate for the interests of max players and super-max players,” one veteran player said of Paul and company. “Basically, the CBA has helped the whole banana boat crew from back in the day. It’s taken from the midlevel. I think middle-tier players aren’t getting that mid level money anymore.
“I think just that huge super max has had cost. Teams are putting all their eggs in one basket to keep that super-max guy. It’s dried up the salary cap. I don’t see it as sustainable long term.”
Players collectively receive a certain percentage of revenue. Two major questions in CBA negotiations: What percentage of revenue should that be? How should players divide that share?
This griping is about the second question.
If no there were no individual max salary, superstars would get paid even more. They’re so important – both on the court and as marketing forces. A single player can swing a franchise far more in basketball than any other major team sport.
restricts stars’ earnings, leaving more money for middle-class players." data-reactid="29" style="margin-bottom: 1em; color: rgb(38, 40, 42); font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The CBA already restricts stars’ earnings, leaving more money for middle-class players.
Legitimate questions exist about whether stars should face even stiffer restrictions. There are far more middle-class players, after all. In a one-person, one-vote union, the middle-class majority holds more power. They could use it to out-vote Paul and other stars on anything. They could even oust Paul.
But don’t get it twisted: Stars are already sacrificing so middle-class players can earn more.
NBA player laments Chris Paul favoring 'banana-boat crew' as union president
Chris Paul’s game is rarely questioned.
Some critics won’t let him slide on never advancing past the conference finals. But most are inclined to acknowledge that the nine-time All-Star is one of the great playmakers in the history of the game.
Paul a frequent target of criticism
Chris Paul the teammate and person is much more polarizing. Former NBA player Kenyon Martin gave voice in 2012 to the belief that Paul is commonly disliked in NBA circles, describing his former teammate as “sneaky” in an interview with Colin Cowherd.
“People think he’s a politician, and people don’t trust politicians, Martin said. “He does things inside the locker room that some teammates question. Dealing with management and coaches, people deem it as sneaky, things like that. But you don’t know what’s going on behind the closed doors and speculation.”
“They think he has a hidden agenda that doesn’t include the rest of the 14 guys. ... For some guys it’s deeper than basketball, it’s about can I trust you? ... And sometimes it comes across as being selfish at times.”
Did Paul favor ‘banana-boat crew’ in labor talks?
A Sunday report from The Athletic’s Ethan Strauss reinforced that lack of trust for Paul, but on a larger scale. Strauss cited an anonymous NBA player
who chastised Paul for his belief that he only advocated for elite NBA players
in his role as president of the National Basketball Players Association.
The anonymous player criticized Paul — the lead player-voice in union negotiations with the NBA — for looking out for “the banana-boat crew” at the expense of lower tier players.
Paul critic: ‘It’s taken from the mid level’
The banana-boat crew consists of Paul, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Carmelo Anthony, famously close friends and all at some point among the league’s best and highest-paid players.
“They advocate for the interests of max players and super-max players,” the source said of Paul and his fellow union reps. “Basically, the CBA has helped the whole banana-boat crew from back in the day. It’s taken from the mid level. I think middle-tier players aren’t getting that mid-level money anymore.”
So this player’s gripe is that in a salary-capped sport, Paul arranged for the best players in the league to share a disproportionate share of the pie that players split up.
Stars drive the NBA
While Paul may or may not be well-liked, the argument that max players are getting paid too much is dubious. While elite players are indeed signing massive deals, they’re still not getting paid proportionate to the actual value that they provide to the NBA.
More than any other American sports league, stars drive the NBA and are the primary reason people show up to games and watch on TV. Stars win championships and drive revenue. People don’t tune in to watch Marcus Morris.
And Marcus Morris just agreed to a deal that will pay him $15 million this season.
If the anonymous player in Strauss’ report believes that guys like Morris and lesser-tier players should be paid more, his problem should be with owners and a salary cap that limits how much of the NBA riches players are permitted to share.
Whether or not he likes Paul to begin with is an entirely separate story.
Chris Paul’s game is rarely questioned.
Some critics won’t let him slide on never advancing past the conference finals. But most are inclined to acknowledge that the nine-time All-Star is one of the great playmakers in the history of the game.
Paul a frequent target of criticism
Chris Paul the teammate and person is much more polarizing. Former NBA player Kenyon Martin gave voice in 2012 to the belief that Paul is commonly disliked in NBA circles, describing his former teammate as “sneaky” in an interview with Colin Cowherd.
“People think he’s a politician, and people don’t trust politicians, Martin said. “He does things inside the locker room that some teammates question. Dealing with management and coaches, people deem it as sneaky, things like that. But you don’t know what’s going on behind the closed doors and speculation.”
“They think he has a hidden agenda that doesn’t include the rest of the 14 guys. ... For some guys it’s deeper than basketball, it’s about can I trust you? ... And sometimes it comes across as being selfish at times.”
Did Paul favor ‘banana-boat crew’ in labor talks?
A Sunday report from The Athletic’s Ethan Strauss reinforced that lack of trust for Paul, but on a larger scale. Strauss cited an anonymous NBA player
who chastised Paul for his belief that he only advocated for elite NBA players
in his role as president of the National Basketball Players Association.
The anonymous player criticized Paul — the lead player-voice in union negotiations with the NBA — for looking out for “the banana-boat crew” at the expense of lower tier players.
Paul critic: ‘It’s taken from the mid level’
The banana-boat crew consists of Paul, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Carmelo Anthony, famously close friends and all at some point among the league’s best and highest-paid players.
“They advocate for the interests of max players and super-max players,” the source said of Paul and his fellow union reps. “Basically, the CBA has helped the whole banana-boat crew from back in the day. It’s taken from the mid level. I think middle-tier players aren’t getting that mid-level money anymore.”
So this player’s gripe is that in a salary-capped sport, Paul arranged for the best players in the league to share a disproportionate share of the pie that players split up.
Stars drive the NBA
While Paul may or may not be well-liked, the argument that max players are getting paid too much is dubious. While elite players are indeed signing massive deals, they’re still not getting paid proportionate to the actual value that they provide to the NBA.
More than any other American sports league, stars drive the NBA and are the primary reason people show up to games and watch on TV. Stars win championships and drive revenue. People don’t tune in to watch Marcus Morris.
And Marcus Morris just agreed to a deal that will pay him $15 million this season.
If the anonymous player in Strauss’ report believes that guys like Morris and lesser-tier players should be paid more, his problem should be with owners and a salary cap that limits how much of the NBA riches players are permitted to share.
Whether or not he likes Paul to begin with is an entirely separate story.
Report: Chris Paul unpopular as union president, because he has prioritized stars
The NBA’s 2017 Collective Bargaining Agreement helped star players.
A new super-max contract allows players with eight or nine years experience to earn more money than they would’ve otherwise. The regular max increased. The over-36 rule became the over-38 rule, which applies to everyone, but stars are far more likely to get offered long-term deals that deep into their career.
The National Basketball Players Association president: Chris Paul. Two members of the executive board at that time: LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony.
Paul and LeBron were too experienced to benefit from the super max. But they signed larger max deals last summer than they could’ve under the previous system – Paul with the Rockets, LeBron with the Lakers.
With Paul getting traded to the Thunder for Russell Westbrook, players don’t exactly sound enamored with their union president.
Ethan Sherwood Strauss of The Athletic:
The reign of CP3 is not popular with the NBA’s lower classes
Some players around the league laughed when union president Chris Paul and his massive contract got dealt to the rebuilding Thunder for Russell Westbrook. Why? Because Paul’s regime is not viewed as one devoted to serving the NBA’s middle and lower classes.
“They advocate for the interests of max players and super-max players,” one veteran player said of Paul and company. “Basically, the CBA has helped the whole banana boat crew from back in the day. It’s taken from the midlevel. I think middle-tier players aren’t getting that mid level money anymore.
“I think just that huge super max has had cost. Teams are putting all their eggs in one basket to keep that super-max guy. It’s dried up the salary cap. I don’t see it as sustainable long term.”
Players collectively receive a certain percentage of revenue. Two major questions in CBA negotiations: What percentage of revenue should that be? How should players divide that share?
This griping is about the second question.
If no there were no individual max salary, superstars would get paid even more. They’re so important – both on the court and as marketing forces. A single player can swing a franchise far more in basketball than any other major team sport.
restricts stars’ earnings, leaving more money for middle-class players." data-reactid="29" style="margin-bottom: 1em; color: rgb(38, 40, 42); font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The CBA already restricts stars’ earnings, leaving more money for middle-class players.
Legitimate questions exist about whether stars should face even stiffer restrictions. There are far more middle-class players, after all. In a one-person, one-vote union, the middle-class majority holds more power. They could use it to out-vote Paul and other stars on anything. They could even oust Paul.
But don’t get it twisted: Stars are already sacrificing so middle-class players can earn more.
Bullshit. Journeymen are getting PAID.
This is idiotic.
Stars are capped. They leave more money on the table then mid level guys do, when you look at what they would be paid in an uncapped league.
Stars are capped. They leave more money on the table then mid level guys do, when you look at what they would be paid in an uncapped league.
If anything, the opposite Is true. The current CBA fucks over the super stars and name brand guys the worst. Whoever the unnamed source is here is a complete fucking simpleton and CP3 hater.
You might have a point about being held back
He would have let the man play.
Liz is huge
A’ja stepped into my favorite slot right behind Diana
Isnt food everywhere in every city though
i mean there is some good food in Houston, Chicago, LA, NY, Boston, SanFran, Memphis, Dallas, etc etc...
Isnt food everywhere in every city though
Food plays a bigger cultural role in some places.
True but im just saying Perk make it seem like its the city; no, its the player no matter the city...,
Craig Sager cheated on his wife, left her for a Bull's dancer, got much needed bone marrow transplant from his son and then cuts him from the will the very next day.
"In 2000, Craig Sager has an affair with a Chicago Bulls dancer (Stacy) while he is on the road for NBA games Leaves family (wife + 3 children) for Stacy and marries her. He is 49, Stacy is 24. Has 2 more kids with new wife. Gets leukemia in 2014. His son Craig from his first marriage donates in two separate bone marrow transplants to save father's life. Eventually Craig Sager dies to cancer in Dec 2016. Tweets from the kids reveal that Stacy made sure Sager's first family was completely excluded from will. Also gold digger never thanked Craig Jr. for saving father's life twice"
Article 1: https://www.news-press.com/story/sp...over-craig-sager-sr-excluding-him/1025201001/
Article 2: https://sports.yahoo.com/craig-sagers-son-tweets-sisters-left-fathers-will-232152871.html
"In 2000, Craig Sager has an affair with a Chicago Bulls dancer (Stacy) while he is on the road for NBA games Leaves family (wife + 3 children) for Stacy and marries her. He is 49, Stacy is 24. Has 2 more kids with new wife. Gets leukemia in 2014. His son Craig from his first marriage donates in two separate bone marrow transplants to save father's life. Eventually Craig Sager dies to cancer in Dec 2016. Tweets from the kids reveal that Stacy made sure Sager's first family was completely excluded from will. Also gold digger never thanked Craig Jr. for saving father's life twice"
Article 1: https://www.news-press.com/story/sp...over-craig-sager-sr-excluding-him/1025201001/
Article 2: https://sports.yahoo.com/craig-sagers-son-tweets-sisters-left-fathers-will-232152871.html
Couldn't agree more. Journeymen and midlevel stars are getting ridiculous amounts of money for bench warming minutes. The current CBA is even allowing them to sign for more money on shorter deals.
These 'unnamed sources' are quickly becoming the worst thing about all NBA news. Like worst then NBA twitter.
DAmn Craig was out here pimping. 
THere's a small percentage of guys who should get more than what they get. The guys who are benefiting are the Tobias Harris and Mike Conley's of the world. Them the ones that's eating good. Niggas like Lou Williams getting petty change despite being the best player on his team last year.
Good for himDAmn Craig was out here pimping.
DAmn Craig was out here pimping.
Thus the outfits.
It seems he was some combination of weak, selfish and disloyal... Only fools let pussy affect their obituaries. Can't respect men (or women) who don't do right by their families.
I don't believe everything I read. This story looks like it was put out by the ex. Who is to say he didn't give the son something before he died?
The dead cannot defend themselves.
Craig Sager cheated on his wife, left her for a Bull's dancer, got much needed bone marrow transplant from his son and then cuts him from the will the very next day.
"In 2000, Craig Sager has an affair with a Chicago Bulls dancer (Stacy) while he is on the road for NBA games Leaves family (wife + 3 children) for Stacy and marries her. He is 49, Stacy is 24. Has 2 more kids with new wife. Gets leukemia in 2014. His son Craig from his first marriage donates in two separate bone marrow transplants to save father's life. Eventually Craig Sager dies to cancer in Dec 2016. Tweets from the kids reveal that Stacy made sure Sager's first family was completely excluded from will. Also gold digger never thanked Craig Jr. for saving father's life twice"
Article 1: https://www.news-press.com/story/sp...over-craig-sager-sr-excluding-him/1025201001/
Article 2: https://sports.yahoo.com/craig-sagers-son-tweets-sisters-left-fathers-will-232152871.html
any CBA will always fuck over the superstars; its not the opposite, its just superstar can never be paid what they are worst; they issue is middle tier players not getting paid what they was when the CBA first changed...
Middle tier guys are getting grossly overpaid tho. The "max contract" designation with cap raises has insured it. Half of the max players on payrolls are essentially middle class guys on way overblown deals. Otto Porter is a tier 4 player and is currently on a max deal. The only class of player in todays in NBA that is underpaid is the superstar class. You have specialist now making $15-$18 million per year . JJ Reddick has made $22million a season . Whoever made that comment about Paul and CBA is a bonified idiot.
who determines what is underpaid and overpaid though??? value is relative...but I agree superstars are underpaid; always have been and always will be; thats the game though....
If value is relative then thats how you determine it.. What one players added value is relative to another.. If Lebron James makes $40million then account for win shares, ticket sales when he comes to town, merchandise movement, social media presence, and dedicated segments on sponsor driven/ ad supported TV shows.. You think JJ Reddick or ANY specialist or role player is even doing numbers 1 tenth of that?? Let alone half?
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