Lena Waithe Calls Out Will Smith and Denzel Washington for Not Financing Films With Black Talent
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begging white folks is all they understand
that or trying to make white folks do what they dont wanna do
their minds cant comprehend us creating our own opportunities
anyone shining a light on how we can do it without white people gets called a coon
Because of her sexuality & niggas' admiration and fondness for those that she mentioned, whatever point she was tryna make, for as valid as it was, niggas are gonna refuse to take it into account. Mind you, I've seen some of these dudes in other threads making da same type'a comments in threads regarding black movies.
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I can only imagine that they are taking the source of the criticism into consideration.
You made my point. They back the movies because they like the movies and feel they will make money.
It’s plenty of white movies that don’t get made. Why is that point hard to grasp?
No. I didnt make your point. You had none the moment you injected whites into the discussion. They have no place in the discourse and only serve as a distraction and deflection from the issue at hand.
She called out Denzel and Will on some made up bull shit hoping to pressure one of them into financing a LGBTQ tv series or movie and hoping she/he will be featured in it. No different than Jussie Smollett a legit attack because his character was getting less camera time and needed to get his career a boost by playing the sympathetic victim of a made up hate crime. 
Proof is in the credits
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Begging white folks and producing their propaganda films attacking me.
That is not always true. And many production companies owned by stars work under a DBA for various legal and tax advantage reasons, as well as to avoid conflict of interest
You know its going to a be a lot harder to get where we deserve/should/need to be without the support of the elite black !%, pulling up the other 99%. I know its technically " their responsibility" but it would accelerate our as growth whole, in all sectors of technology/entertainment/realstate/politics/media/education etc
I aint heard anything yet
Wow...
So basically you can say anything and just wait it out.
Edit...
https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/everybodys-fine-lena-waithe-elaborates-on-that-viral-d-1835787130
What you think of this explanation...
“Look, Will, Denzel, I have a relationship with both camps, no shade no tea, I was just texting with Jada—everybody’s fine,” Waithe confirmed at the panel after Hill noted that the “spin” on the interview was about her calling out the iconic actors. “But ultimately, I’m saying for anybody who has money [and is] black, I think should be held to finance at least one or two black filmmakers trying to make their first film. I just think it’s important because then what will happen is we’re keeping the well within our community.”
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I'm not even sure what she doing here.
Cause she blaming the writer now.
And it sounds EXACTLY the same.
I UNDERSTAND what she saying and we said similar but the WAY she did it is so ham fisted...
Honestly, I do not know what to think of it.
I know it's tough for black filmmaker to get some solid backing in the industry financially, but ultimately for anyone that put money in this manner may consider this as an investment.
I was just watching a genius film by a Ugandan filmmaker that made a classic comedy on a $200 budget and a computer be pieced together from spare parts.
All I am saying is there is a level of art that comes with film making that I have seen people be very successful with. Hollywood is tough and does take money to produce film, especially with higher grade actors. Hollywood also can black ball you where none of your shit can get marketed or released.
I think there's space for criticism and Lena's work in getting The Chi made earns her some credit here to speak her mind. Just for balance here's something else to consider (sorry if this was already posted... this thread is longer than a mothafucka)
And none of that shit has anything to do with her critiques.
Shes talking about funding black indies and the now canned retort is about Antwone Fisher (which he did NOT write, fund, create...) and him paying for Black Panthers grad school tuition.
Balance? What thread are you reading? The entire flock is in attack mode in defense of their god Denzel. This woman is being slandered and ridiculed to death. No need to add a Denzel fluff piece for "balance" my man.
Balance? What thread are you reading? The entire flock is in attack mode in defense of their god Denzel. This woman is being slandered and ridiculed to death. No need to add a Denzel fluff piece for "balance" my man.
Lol when I see these 9-10 page threads I only skim them on some Colin shit
Carry on y'all
Naw, just going with the Hollywood flow. You gotta go over the top to show that you don't have issues with the LGBTQ and Jews.
yeah
Ya notice how the audience is cued to applaud that shit wildly too. Social engineering at its finest.
So now it’s “one or two”.
She’s got a little paper now; she should put up the first amount and then ask others to match.
Got called out on the bullshit and now backtracking.
Honest question, no clowning: But black indies, or HER black indies? Sometimes when you're on the front porch talking to the subject that knocked on the front door, the agendas are trying to sneak in through the back door.
Good question. And i wouldnt be the least bit surprised if it comes out they turned her down in some professional fashion in the past. But, even if her criticism is colored by some self interest, it doesnt negate the validity in the claim or void in the space of funding black indies.
Also, it needs to be noted... that this chick is only 35 years of age.. and she is building a pretty fucking impressive resume of creating projects and opportunities for blacks in front of and behind the camera. Im usually the one critical of the youth speaking out of turn to elders. But in this case, she has boots on the ground and is actually putting in work. I also didnt find her comments disrespectful. Just matter of fact.
I know.
I was gonna put up a picture of Damon Dash.
Lee Daniels gay ass,
Jerked him.... not literally
lol
Maybe?
I was gonna put up a picture of Damon Dash.
Lee Daniels gay ass,
Jerked him.... not literally
lol
Maybe?
GOTDAMN!
When I logged off yesterday,
I felt like this gay bitch is feeling herself.
Check it.
We're in this LGBTQ-lidfnbvoinjb era,
she probably felt like no one was gonna check her cuz she licks carpets,
we know when you speak about "their" community,
they come for you.
she got put in her place with this tweet.
I felt like this gay bitch is feeling herself.
Check it.
We're in this LGBTQ-lidfnbvoinjb era,
she probably felt like no one was gonna check her cuz she licks carpets,
we know when you speak about "their" community,
they come for you.
she got put in her place with this tweet.
You brought up white people in your point by saying they promote white movies. My point was they support movies that make money.
My point for your black perspective is black people should not support black entertainment just because black people made it. If the shit is trash the shit is trash. Plenty of black dollars have gone to black films, black music, black theater that didn’t make shit but that was their choice.
For her to say black people don’t support black movies is bullshit. Black powerbrokers make moves just like any other race of powerbrokers do...because they like the shit they are paying for. You can’t call out black film houses because they don’t like your shit.
Black enough point for you?
Any reference to the whites by me was in response to someone who quoted me and mentioned them first. Feel free to go back and verify this.
I disagree. Especially when we are in a society that targets and oppresses us solely on the basis of race. I am in full support of supporting black creativity on the same basis... And again, what do your examples have to do with her direct point on black power brokers funding indies!!!? Stop with the strawman bullshit.
For you to say this is what she said is bullshit. Feel free to address what she actually said or just dont address it at all brother. Thanks.
You have yet to address the point I have made. You like to pull out certain parts and dance around the point. I'm sure this will be quoted in your next response as well.
Here is what you said...
Here was my response...
So why are we treating Will and Denzel different from all white filmmakers?
If you pitch a movie and people don't like it are they just supposed to give you money for it because you are black?
Movies get turned down and passed on all the time. I'm sure every movie that Will Smith and Denzel want to make doesn't get made.
A "production" company is in the business of making money. What a black production company can do to further the black community is give black people a shot at getting meetings and getting their shit heard. That's it. After that if you don't have an idea that is in line with what that company wants to do they are not obligated to give you money and put out your shit because you are black.
So her "critique" is bullshit. They don't like your shit. Just like she doesn't like these black movies that she says white critics love.
Deal with it?
You can read all my responses and you have danced around that shit like Savion Glover.
How the fuck she going to tell people how they should be spending their money and what they should be spending it on?
The only reason I compared Denzel and Will to white film makers was again to HER point the white critics love black movies that she hates. Those movies are funded by WHITE people. So I took it as she believes better black movies would be made if black film makers were given funding by black people with money. Correct?
Again I say that's all fine and good. But if I'm a black person with money I am not going to just give money to black film directors if I don't like the shit they are making.
People didn't like the Nate Parker film. I didn't like the Nate Parker film. Calling black people with money out for not funding some shit that they didn't like as well is the bullshit I'm speaking of. I equate that same argument to everything she said. Black people with money are not obligated to support shit because it is black produced.
Have I addressed your question brother? I hope that you will address mine.
My question is why should black people with money fund films they don't like or believe in?
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