Iran did called trump bluff

And why the fuck is there an entire carrier group 30 miles off the coast of Iran?.. and why are we flying drones within hacking range of Iran? Would it be ok for them to do that

When a country (cough Iran) continues to threaten to cutoff an intentional waterway vital to global commerce and illegally claim the water as their own, congratulations, you win a carrier strike group off your coast!
There was a an Airforce P-8 with the drone....

A P8? The P series planes are converted passenger planes loaded with electronic battlefield management computers and serving as airborne target ID’ers, threat assement and command-and-control.


Its radar signature shows up like a passenger airplane. There’s no way a radar officer mistakes a P8 for something else. They don’t even fly near any other active flight paths.

Their job is to be overwatch outside of a theater’s direct threat but close enough to provide real-time threat intelligence.
 
When a country (cough Iran) continues to threaten to cutoff an intentional waterway vital to global commerce and illegally claim the water as their own, congratulations, you win a carrier strike group off your coast!


A P8? The P series planes are converted passenger planes loaded with electronic battlefield management computers and serving as airborne target ID’ers, threat assement and command-and-control.


Its radar signature shows up like a passenger airplane. There’s no way a radar officer mistakes a P8 for something else. They don’t even fly near any other active flight paths.

Their job is to be overwatch outside of a theater’s direct threat but close enough to provide real-time threat intelligence.
To your first point. If its so important to global commerce and Iran has threatened to shut it off, why is the rest of the world not concerned?
I know what a P-8 is
So do the Iranians :giggle:
 
The irony of our actions is that by both pulling out of a treaty (that all experts agreed Iran was abiding by) and choosing to escalate as we have only serves to convince Iranian hardliners of the need for nuclear weapons in the first place. If they'll be subjected to this kind of bipolar foreign policy then why not seek to arm themselves in the only way that deters us?

I'm saying this with full knowledge of their fuckery in the region by proxy. But given our uniquely villainous role in their history I can appreciate the reasoning of their hardliners... Bolton has had a hard on for these guys for decades. Pompeo is religious nut (Dominionist) who sees a conflagration in that arena as a necessary precursor to the Second Coming (he should never have passed the nomination process) and Trump sees this as a way to flex his big boy muscles to get an easy electoral bump. The whole situation is astoundingly retarded.
 
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The irony is that our actions is that by both pulling out of a treaty (that all experts agreed Iran was abiding by) and choosing to escalate as we have only serves to convince Iranian hardliners of the need for nuclear weapons in the first place. If they'll be subjected to this kind of bipolar foreign policy then why not seek to arm themselves in the only way that deters us?

I'm saying this with full knowledge of their fuckery in the region by proxy. But given our uniquely villainous role in their history I can appreciate the reasoning of their hardliners... Bolton has had a hard on for these guys for decades. Pompeo is religious nut (Dominionist) who sees a conflagration in that arena as a necessary precursor to the Second Coming (he should never have passed the nomination process) and Trump sees this as a way to flex his big boy muscles to get an easy electoral bump. The whole situation is astoundingly retarded.

all of this
 
Iran needs to chill out though honestly. They have to know their surface to air defense would be decimated by Monday Morning if Trump unleashed the hawks on them:smh::smh::smh:

Trump asked Bibi netanyahu: Do you know how many Americans will die if i strike Iran?

Bibi netanyahu to Trump: That is a sacrifice Israel is willing to Make.
 
We had a strike package set up last night that was to take out Iranian air defenses, communication and other assets in the early morning.

In the 11th hour it was recalled and the bombers were RTB’d ...

They got a reprieve. Like when your Father was going to beat your ass for doing something wrong, but then company showed up at the house.

If you were lucky, he had time to cool off and moved on. If you weren’t, as soon as the guest left, he told you “don’t think I forgot about you. Get your ass upstairs”

Simply put, Iran blew a $110M asset out of the air. 5 years ago they hacked the signal for a drone and captured it.

Launching missiles at US assets while an entire B52 bomber wing (which definitely means B2s are hot and probably in staged in Jordan), 20,000 ground troops, and an entire Carrier Strike Group is 30 miles off your shore is brainless.

Iran kicked the wrong dog.
How would our military leaders like it if Russia and China flew drones within the same proximity to the US mainland that the US just did with Iran?
 
The irony of our actions is that by both pulling out of a treaty (that all experts agreed Iran was abiding by) and choosing to escalate as we have only serves to convince Iranian hardliners of the need for nuclear weapons in the first place. If they'll be subjected to this kind of bipolar foreign policy then why not seek to arm themselves in the only way that deters us?

I'm saying this with full knowledge of their fuckery in the region by proxy. But given our uniquely villainous role in their history I can appreciate the reasoning of their hardliners... Bolton has had a hard on for these guys for decades. Pompeo is religious nut (Dominionist) who sees a conflagration in that arena as a necessary precursor to the Second Coming (he should never have passed the nomination process) and Trump sees this as a way to flex his big boy muscles to get an easy electoral bump. The whole situation is astoundingly retarded.
Interesting
 
How would our military leaders like it if Russia and China flew drones within the same proximity to the US mainland that the US just did with Iran?

They wouldn’t.
And as I said earlier, Russia parks spy ships off the coast of Long Island and we don’t like it.
But not liking it and shooting a missile at it are two dramatically different things.
 
To your first point. If its so important to global commerce and Iran has threatened to shut it off, why is the rest of the world not concerned?
I know what a P-8 is
So do the Iranians :giggle:


Most of the rest of the world doesn’t own refineries or have joint direct investment in oil & gas fields North of the Strait.
America does.
 
Most of the rest of the world doesn’t own refineries or have joint direct investment in oil & gas fields North of the Strait.
America does.
Liar.. oil companies aren't nationalized .
America doesn't own any oil companies.
 
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Liar.. oil companies aren't nationalized .
America doesn't own any oil companies.

Hahahahahha.
America has the largest mechanized military on Earth.

95% of it is run on, lubricated with, and protected by petroleum and petroleum products.

I hope you don’t think we don’t have nationalized oil companies around the world. I In order for the machine to continue to work we need to guarantee a clean, trustworthy and continuous supply chain no matter where we touchdown and should that chain be broken or delayed, we need secondary and tertiary vendors.

That’s when the nationalized groups step in. They tend to operate under the many false front business enterprises established by the CIA.

And then, of course, as you know the US government’s cozy relationship with our domestic oil vendors.
 
most likely dick face is playing some type of war game psychological trick with Iran, he will use some type of new super non-nuclear weapon when this story gets out of everybody head
 
You forget the US had Iraq fight them the last time which is why they were sure about WMDs..because the US supplied them
 
most likely dick face is playing some type of war game psychological trick with Iran, he will use some type of new super non-nuclear weapon when this story gets out of everybody head
No Putin is not going to allow that
 
Hahahahahha.
America has the largest mechanized military on Earth.

95% of it is run on, lubricated with, and protected by petroleum and petroleum products.

I hope you don’t think we don’t have nationalized oil companies around the world. I In order for the machine to continue to work we need to guarantee a clean, trustworthy and continuous supply chain no matter where we touchdown and should that chain be broken or delayed, we need secondary and tertiary vendors.

That’s when the nationalized groups step in. They tend to operate under the many false front business enterprises established by the CIA.

And then, of course, as you know the US government’s cozy relationship with our domestic oil vendors.
Listen we do have a awesome military but we are sort of one dimensional we could bomb the hell out of you from the sky but as soon as we put boots on the ground we are in trouble.
 
Listen we do have a awesome military but we are sort of one dimensional we could bomb the hell out of you from the sky but as soon as we put boots on the ground we are in trouble.
20 years ago I would agree with you. We had very little desert combat expensive and knowledge base to work off of.

But all we have been doing the last 25 years is desert and mountain warfare. We are now highly at the tactics and environment in a desert theatre of operations.
 
most likely dick face is playing some type of war game psychological trick with Iran, he will use some type of new super non-nuclear weapon when this story gets out of everybody head

The MOAB & Blu-82 Daisy Cutters would be the most likely candidates.

Our rail guns aren’t ready yet.
 
It's a shame that we have a complete idiot in charge of this country and as a result can't trust a single sentence coming from the white house administration. Anyone trying to make sense out of Trump and his foreign affairs policy is just punishing their brain cells for no reason. I just hope to survive until we get him out of office.
 
It's a shame that we have a complete idiot in charge of this country and as a result can't trust a single sentence coming from the white house administration. Anyone trying to make sense out of Trump and his foreign affairs policy is just punishing their brain cells for no reason. I just hope to survive until we get him out of office.

I've been saying this, but of the current group, Biden is the only one that has a chance in beating Trump at this point...he just has to stop getting out of his way and not turn away the extreme left base...I'm not sure who he should pick as his running mate though
 
20 years ago I would agree with you. We had very little desert combat expensive and knowledge base to work off of.

But all we have been doing the last 25 years is desert and mountain warfare. We are now highly at the tactics and environment in a desert theatre of operations.
20 years ago!!!! fool have you seen what happened in Iraq not too long ago
 
I've been saying this, but of the current group, Biden is the only one that has a chance in beating Trump at this point...he just has to stop getting out of his way and not turn away the extreme left base...I'm not sure who he should pick as his running mate though
I kind of like Biden per say but he is not the only one who can beat Trump
 
I kind of like Biden per say but he is not the only one who can beat Trump

Do you remember the movie Demolition Man with Sylvester Stallone? They said in the movie that "Simon Phoenix is an old time criminal and we need an old time cop" This is how I feel about Donald Trump and Joe Biden. You need to send a dirty old man to beat a dirty old man. Democrats have been viewed as wimps for so long and not showing strength...not saying that a woman is being shown as weak(I think Hilary was tough enough for Donald Trump, but saw victory too early and didnt take him serious) but of the current crop of candidates, i dont think there's anyone that flat out beat Donald Trump in the flyover states or is as "folksy" as Joe...
 
If the US attacks Iran
Iran will attack Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iraq, and Israel.
Russia will back Iran because Iran will shutdown the Strait of Hormuz.
The Strait of Hormuz

:lol: besides Iraq all these countries have militaries more powerful than Iran....
 
If the US attacks Iran
Iran will attack Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iraq, and Israel.
Russia will back Iran because Iran will shutdown the Strait of Hormuz.
The Strait of Hormuz

Iran attacking four other nations will essentially be signing the death certificate that certifies the end of the theocracy rule and perhaps an end to Persia’s history.

Israel has nuclear weapons. That alone should make Iran think twice
 
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