Bernie says ADOS can forget about that REPERATIONS check

She decided to run herself and is making policy that she feels is good for the world.

That is a far better accomplishment than bitching on the internet.
Define "making policy". Dole out ADOS reperations is on equal footing with AOC's policy making successes.
 
We had to do it when Japanese-Americans received their reparations in the 80's

I appreciate the response.

However, my questions weren't answered.

Who is paying for it?

In order for something this size to pass, we'll need the votes of those who aren't black.

How do we convince them that they should pickup the slack of taxes after we get whatever we get.

Again, I'm not against it. I just want someone to explain to me how we get there.

Are we convincing white people to vote those in office who are in favor of reparations?

If not. Do we breed like rabbits to become the majority? Then spread ourselves across the country.

Because as it stands we're concentrated in specific areas. And with the electoral college, we need more rural areas to truly win.

Just asking.
 
Presidents steer policy and influence politics. Dont be dense. Trump had the gov snatching up little confused descendents of Spanish colonialism.

Can a president pass a law?
If Trump on his first day said he wanted to raise taxes on the rich and give reparations to black people would the Republican party have been steered and influenced to pass those laws?

Don’t be dense.
 
Can a president pass a law?
If Trump on his first day said he wanted to raise taxes on the rich and give reparations to black people would the Republican party have been steered and influenced to pass those laws?

Don’t be dense.
If he framed it in a way that appealed to his toothless base? Abso-fucking-lutely. Your "gotcha" has got no bite to it on that notation.
 
He used to run a porn Nickelodeon back in the 50's or 60's. This is true.

There’s a stereotype about Jewish people being sexual freaks. well if you look at the people who run porn and started it a lot of Jewish people are involved.
 
ADOS should take it to the United Nations the world court. ADOS should become like an entity in the US so they can represented separately from the US

This. An issue I have with #ADOS is that it isn't far reaching enough. It really needs to move and act as a nation without a state, akin to the Palestinians. That way we could cooperate more fully with other groups on an international level or at least petition the government the way Native American tribes and nations do. And we can kick certain people out as well, like the Cherokees did. Mango and Drayonis would be the first to go.

I wish our number one issue would be the senseless violence against unarmed black men by police with zero consequences. We need to find a way to make that our main issue.....some type of federal law that can hold police officers accountable for their trigger happy fingers.

Reparations are important, but, how much do you think we would get? Probably less than $5,000 a head. That shit ain't gonna do NOTHING to help our community.

"Naijachief"? Stop saying "our" and "we" unless you're talking about Nigerians.
 
This. An issue I have with #ADOS is that it isn't far reaching enough. It really needs to move and act as a nation without a state, akin to the Palestinians. That way we could cooperate more fully with other groups on an international level or at least petition the government the way Native American tribes and nations do. And we can kick certain people out as well, like the Cherokees did. Mango and Drayonis would be the first to go.



"Naijachief"? Stop saying "our" and "we" unless you're talking about Nigerians.

im ready for your purge when yall get ready , let me know

but funny u talk about "cooperating with other groups" ? :roflmao:



"CLOWNS TO THE LEFT ME , JOKERS TO THE RIGHT.."
 
Black people could never vote again and this country still wouldn't give reparations. "Your vote" isn't a good bargaining chip.
You keep thinking that "If you don't vote, then they'll have to bend to my demands" and I've been telling you they won't bend to shit.

If you understood how racist this country truly is then you'd understand that.
We have to make it valuable & worth something.

There are more black people than Jews, right? But Jews vote mean something, dont it?

I understand what you're saying, but our vote has to mean something to us first. Similar to self-respect, we have to show others how to treat us.

We can start by keeping our vote and our dollar to ourselves!
 
put up the right candidate to get what you want and vote for them.
And until then? What do we do in the meantime until we get our own candidate up there?
Throw our vote away at someone telling us that they wont do shit for us?.

Or withhold our vote until we are able to "360 ourself & exercise control"
 
This. An issue I have with #ADOS is that it isn't far reaching enough. It really needs to move and act as a nation without a state, akin to the Palestinians. That way we could cooperate more fully with other groups on an international level or at least petition the government the way Native American tribes and nations do. And we can kick certain people out as well, like the Cherokees did. Mango and Drayonis would be the first to go.



"Naijachief"? Stop saying "our" and "we" unless you're talking about Nigerians.
Lol.. Yes sir.. . Do you know me personally? Just wondering..... Maybe you can tell me where I was born and where my parents and grandparents are originally from.
 
im ready for your purge when yall get ready , let me know

but funny u talk about "cooperating with other groups" ? :roflmao:



"CLOWNS TO THE LEFT ME , JOKERS TO THE RIGHT.."

Exactly. "Black folks need to stick together"...but not ya'll niggas...foh...these dudes are ridiculous

What happened to the "immigrant drive"? I thought we were supposed to be directly COMPETING against each other to prove to the whites our "tribe" and or nationality makes us the hardest working?
 
What happened to the "immigrant drive"? I thought we were supposed to be directly COMPETING against each other to prove to the whites our "tribe" and or nationality makes us the hardest working?

Bruh, we all black in America. I'm American by the way. Born in the American Caribbean. I'm not for this splitting us up when we are all treated the same in this country. That's what dummies like Yvette wants y'all to do
 
Bruh, we all black in America. I'm American by the way. Born in the American Caribbean. I'm not for this splitting us up when we are all treated the same in this country. That's what dummies like Yvette wants y'all to do

Yvette is maaadd suspect. I just went through her YouTube videos feed. Seems like her #1 goal is NOT reparations.
 
And until then? What do we do in the meantime until we get our own candidate up there?
Throw our vote away at someone telling us that they wont do shit for us?.

Or withhold our vote until we are able to "360 ourself & exercise control"

no.

it is not possible to put up a candidate overnight. until then you must set up the process to get the candidate elected and also perform functions and demonstrate policy in the community to gain the support of the constituency.

this is not an microwavable process. just like the real black panthers we can organize our own programs in our own communities. that does not take government funding or programs to accomplish. as a matter of fact many of the current government programs in urban areas were first initiated by the black panthers with no government help at any level. the black panthers were taken out in part because they told government entities to stay out of their neighborhoods on any level.
 
Yvette is maaadd suspect. I just went through her YouTube videos feed. Seems like her #1 goal is NOT reparations.

dudes can't get past "myyyyy preciiiioooouuuus" to see what is really going on.

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And until then? What do we do in the meantime until we get our own candidate up there?
Throw our vote away at someone telling us that they wont do shit for us?.

Or withhold our vote until we are able to "360 ourself & exercise control"

no.

it is not possible to put up a candidate overnight. until then you must set up the process to get the candidate elected and also perform functions and demonstrate policy in the community to gain the support of the constituency.

this is not an microwavable process. just like the real black panthers we can organize our own programs in our own communities. that does not take government funding or programs to accomplish. as a matter of fact many of the current government programs in urban areas were first initiated by the black panthers with no government help at any level. the black panthers were taken out in part because they told government entities to stay out of their neighborhoods on any level.

He literally did not answer your question.
I asked him this before, a few times.


He has no answer.
 
And until then? What do we do in the meantime until we get our own candidate up there?
Throw our vote away at someone telling us that they wont do shit for us?.

Or withhold our vote until we are able to "360 ourself & exercise control"
understandable but where was this thought 4/8/12/20 year sago? why all so sudden, granted, we dont time revolutions but when we take count of stock b4 we go into battle ,we have to be realistic, at this present junction ,if we dont have a candidate that can champion ALL OUR CAUSES to mainstream in a presidential bid then we have to have "smaller strategic battles & candidates, starting at grassroots, so not voting is actually counterproductive cos if we have to wait until the perfect candidate with all the criteria met arrives we sit at home? while we watch grandmothers food & health care gutted , more blakmen in prison, more kids in in school to prison pipelines, gerrymandering, cops keep getting away with murder etc etc while we sit & watch armcrossed mad by witholding our votes becos we waiting for the perfect ADOS candidate?
... u can kill an elephant by a million tiny cuts if u dont have one big beath blow in ur hands
 
no.

it is not possible to put up a candidate overnight. until then you must set up the process to get the candidate elected and also perform functions and demonstrate policy in the community to gain the support of the constituency.

this is not an microwavable process. just like the real black panthers we can organize our own programs in our own communities. that does not take government funding or programs to accomplish. as a matter of fact many of the current government programs in urban areas were first initiated by the black panthers with no government help at any level. the black panthers were taken out in part because they told government entities to stay out of their neighborhoods on any level.
this is what my meandering post wanted to say , ^^ you just say it better, Thank You
 
Yvette is maaadd suspect. I just went through her YouTube videos feed. Seems like her #1 goal is NOT reparations.
which was always my thing becos if its about reparations for ADOS , whats with all the demonizing foreign blacks at every turn?,
random twits looking for negatives to highlight,

a nigerian got promoted at a random job somewhere somehow ?, yvette will comment on it that that person shouldnt be promoted or workin or have any autonomy in a world where black folks can freely travel and work world over!

foreign blacks in school?, yvette is on it crying that "theyre taking your spots"

Yvonne Orji (Nigerian american actress on hot97 with charlemagne) made a simple comment about her father pushing her to strive for greatness and not take any prisoners and not let anyone make u lesser than them and to feel u can be the best at whatever u do ( thinsg that jewish people teach their kids to make them succesful!)
Yvette : aaarrgghh u see,? these nigerians feel theyre better than you, they feel u should be lesser than them , they have a negative competitive spirit yadyadyada!

Tiffany Haddish (eriterean -american actress who also is half ADOS by the way! ) wins an award & praise HER FATHER (eritrean):
yvette : how dare she praise her father, the eritrean immigrant,? it was the black american mother that should get all the praise, u see?, they hate u becos they dont... yadayada

a nigerian kid gets an award at a science competion!?:
yvette: " arrrgghh !they taking ur spot that kid shouldnt be succeeding it should only be ADOS kids in college succeeding , they dont deserve to deserve what they worked for !

it was then i started to notice like and ask myself..."what does these have to do with reparations for ados?

honestly at first i used to listen to her economic talk and she made sense on things but they arent new or novel ideas they've been around from Sandy darity/reparations movements, NCOBRA, Dr Claude anderson etc but i was glad someone was out there talkin about it then oneday i started noticing this anti-immigrant(especially anti-foreign blacks & in particularly Anti-Nigerians) rhetoric .
my issue was, as a pan-afrikanist i dont ride with that
and also that mindset she has is gonna poison a movement that had potential to reach and wake alot of folks but its gonna get squandered on the alter of her personal anti-immigrant screed and we'll be back at one wondering what went wrong,
but the future repercussions are what i am warnin folks against cos if this mindset takes a hold and grows its gonna make it very hard for nativeblack americans to regain the love & respect alot of native black american get around the diaspora world, people r gonna remember
 
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What happened to the "immigrant drive"? I thought we were supposed to be directly COMPETING against each other to prove to the whites our "tribe" and or nationality makes us the hardest working?
u dont even make sense?
is there an immigrant drive or not? is it exclusive to only foreign blacks ? do eastern european immig have that drive too?
and who says its becos they we wanna prove to de whytes "we are better than the other N**s over there" ? cant it be becos they come from a place with less and when they see anything comparably better than what they had ,they r driven to work harder to access those things becos atleast it seems accessible?
 
I appreciate the response.

However, my questions weren't answered.

Who is paying for it?

In order for something this size to pass, we'll need the votes of those who aren't black.

How do we convince them that they should pickup the slack of taxes after we get whatever we get.

Again, I'm not against it. I just want someone to explain to me how we get there.


Are we convincing white people to vote those in office who are in favor of reparations?

If not. Do we breed like rabbits to become the majority? Then spread ourselves across the country.

Because as it stands we're concentrated in specific areas. And with the electoral college, we need more rural areas to truly win.

Just asking.

Bruh I asked every question on your list you asked and I've been attacked for days on it.

Just you asking those questions makes them assume you are against it. That's how ignorant some of these cats are on this subject.
 
Bruh I asked every question on your list you asked and I've been attacked for days on it.

Just you asking those questions makes them assume you are against it. That's how ignorant some of these cats are on this subject.

at this point i think we are dealing with an education deficit. and for sure a lack of historical, societal and political context.
 
at this point i think we are dealing with an education deficit. and for sure a lack of historical, societal and political context.
this is what im coming to reluctantly resolve myself to accept, i noted this in one of the threads that went on for like 18pages +alot of these people in yvettes camp are suffering "short sightedness, emotional instability ,and an education deficit" which is why it was easy for folks to accuse them of being bots becos they were on a bot like approach in those Ytube comments , nonstop,
 
which was always my thing becos if its about reparations for ADOS , whats with all the demonizing foreign blacks at every turn?,
random twits looking for negatives to highlight,

a nigerian got promoted at a random job somewhere somehow ?, yvette will comment on it that that person shouldnt be promoted or workin or have any autonomy in a world where black folks can freely travel and work world over!

foreign blacks in school?, yvette is on it crying that "theyre taking your spots"

Yvonne Orji (Nigerian american actress on hot97 with charlemagne) made a simple comment about her father pushing her to strive for greatness and not take any prisoners and not let anyone make u lesser than them and to feel u can be the best at whatever u do ( thinsg that jewish people teach their kids to make them succesful!)
Yvette : aaarrgghh u see,? these nigerians feel theyre better than you, they feel u should be lesser than them , they have a negative competitive spirit yadyadyada!

Tiffany Haddish (eriterean -american actress who also is half ADOS by the way! ) wins an award & praise HER FATHER (eritrean):
yvette : how dare she praise her father, the eritrean immigrant,? it was the black american mother that should get all the praise, u see?, they hate u becos they dont... yadayada

a nigerian kid gets an award at a science competion!?:
yvette: " arrrgghh !they taking ur spot that kid shouldnt be succeeding it should only be ADOS kids in college succeeding , they dont deserve to deserve what they worked for !

it was then i started to notice like and ask myself..."what does these have to do with reparations for ados?

honestly at first i used to listen to her economic talk and she made sense on things but they arent new or novel ideas they've been around from Sandy darity/reparations movements, NCOBRA, Dr Claude anderson etc but i was glad someone was out there talkin about it then oneday i started noticing this anti-immigrant(especially anti-foreign blacks & in particularly Anti-Nigerians) rhetoric .
my issue was, as a pan-afrikanist i dont ride with that
and also that mindset she has is gonna poison a movement that had potential to reach and wake alot of folks but its gonna get squandered on the alter of her personal anti-immigrant screed and we'll be back at one wondering what went wrong,
but the future repercussions are what i am warnin folks against cos if this mindset takes a hold and grows its gonna make it very hard for nativeblack americans to regain the love & respect alot of native black american get around the diaspora world, people r gonna remember

And her anti-black immigrant rhetoric doesn't make any sense. There's no point in even talking about foreigners. A non-US citizen would never get reparations anyways. Just like most government grants, you have to be a US citizen to get them. So what's the point of her anti-black obsession? She's a poison to the reparations movement and needs to be taken out.

It's like the Japanese-Americans who got reparations, start talking shit for no reason about the Japanese who got nuked in Hiroshima. It makes no sense.
 
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