Kamala Harris is not the right Presidential choice for Black America

[ankhheru]

How hard is it to verify her political record. After all its a matter of fucking record. The best way to settle this shit is to pull her political whole cards for the world to see. No cut, no spin. Just what she voted for or voted against. What she's on record as saying. If the shit falls heads up then the bitch solid, if it falls tails up then the bitch ain't. Fuck the in between. Either she said that shit and did that shit or she didn't. Save the pontificating for the soap box.

 

[doe moe]

The Elder weighs in.

 

[^SpiderMan^]

The tough thing about this is that it has the potential to pit the Black man against the Black woman. Sistas will think that Kamala isn't getting support because she is a Black woman rather than her as an actual candidate.

 

[Flawless]

Ahh black people hating on each other already.

 

[doe moe]

Ahh black people hating on each other already.

Brother Flawless, I don't see it as hating. After Obama, I think most of us are waking up and not allowing the wool to be pulled over or eyes because a token brown face is running.

Her track record was not that of serving Black folks for good.

She could also be an implant to disrupt and thin out the black voting block.

 

[hocjo2626]

Ahh black people hating on each other already.

Ain't that some shit though. They wonder why Jews have so much fucking power. They stick together and keep their eye on the prize. No matter what. Some black folks (coons) just can't seem to do it. Crab ass coons. Always cutting their nose off to spite their face.

 

[ankhheru]

How hard is it to verify her political record. After all its a matter of fucking record. The best way to settle this shit is to pull her political whole cards for the world to see. No cut, no spin. Just what she voted for or voted against. What she's on record as saying. If the shit falls heads up then the bitch solid, if it falls tails up then the bitch ain't. Fuck the in between. Either she said that shit and did that shit or she didn't. Save the pontificating for the soap box.

One more time. This is important. Post her political record on issues concerning black people. That's the rubber meeting the road and will stop all this name calling and back and forth. Is she solid or is she shake?

 

[4 Dimensional]

This thread feels like 2012 all over again.

 

[gene cisco]

I see the opinion piece smear campaign has begun. All of a sudden all these opinion articles are dropping in order to trash all Democratic Presidential candidates and y’all take the bait

Did she or did she not do that fuckery that she is accused of? If she did, how can it be an opinion? Is her being a prosecutor an opinion? Prosecutors tend to be worse than fucking pigs, and what she is said to have done is unacceptable. And the cherry on the opinion pie is the cac husband.

Listen, it's best to vet these candidates now. That's how you come up with one that can kick Trump's ass. Throw these people out here and see what can be dug up on them. The last one standing goes at Trump. We can't force shit like last time and then cop all types of pleas after the election.

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

Brother Flawless, I don't see it as hating. After Obama, I think most of us are waking up and not allowing the wool to be pulled over or eyes because a token brown face is running.

Her track record was not that of serving Black folks for good.

She could also be an implant to disrupt and thin out the black voting block.

Show us the track you speak of.

 

[hardawayz16]

Did she or did she not do that fuckery that she is accused of? If she did, how can it be an opinion? Is her being a prosecutor an opinion? Prosecutors tend to be worse than fucking pigs, and what she is said to have done is unacceptable.

Some of these dudes are only in their feelings because they didn't know her history.

They thought they met a sweet innocent girl and they found out she's the hood thot.

Wipe your tears. It's gonna be ok.

 

[zod16]

Show us the track you speak of.

There are a ton of articles out there on her political record but this is an accurate and succinct summary of her record generally:

Earl Ofari Hutchinson, president of the Los Angeles Urban Policy Roundtable, told the Sacramento Bee that Harris could’ve been “a more vigorous advocate for full criminal justice reform” and that she was “unwilling to be big and bold.” “Harris’s role has not been pivotal” in reshaping the criminal justice system, the paper wrote. “The pyramid shook, but often it wasn’t her doing the shaking.”

She is a middle of the road democrat masquerading as a real progressive (like most are to be fair). She will be attacked from the left for not going hard on Steve Mnuchin’s bank and being against early prisoner release programs. She also backed out of challenging the cash bail system. I think her biggest problems will arise from her actual background and her husband. This is from her aunt:

"It is funny that some newspapers like The Los Angeles Times described her as the first black woman to enter the Senate while some describe her as an Indian American. Let them write whatever they want...Even though she was born and brought up in America, my sister has inculcated in her South Indian culture and values. She believes in going to the temple because her mother believed in it. Kamala is what she is today because of her mother. The credit doesn't go to any other person. It is my sister, her mother, who brought her up like this," Dr Gopalan said.

 

[killagram]

If she married a Cac...She pushin a CAC agenda...black women cant be black..once they get vanilla feva... brah

 

[Complex]

She's mixed, went to Howard, but married a white dude

I'm not voting for her just because she's black

 

[Soul On Ice]

So asking questions and demanding tangibles makes one a Russian bot now

I think voting for someone just because they *insert whatever is considered Black behavior* and have no demands makes you a bot.


But that's just me, and the many others on this growing list...

 

[Man_Of_STeeL]

i'm cool...

 

[MistaPhantastic]

Bitch is evil. She need to be doing a cam show with the devil's pitchfork.

I think I found her running mate:

Clayton Muthafuckin' Bixby!

I'm glad I read that NY Times article. I remember now. THIS was the bitch that covered up for that lab tech who was sabotaging evidence. Fuck this bitch.

 

[Soul On Ice]

Ain't that some shit though. They wonder why Jews have so much fucking power. They stick together and keep their eye on the prize. No matter what. Some black folks (coons) just can't seem to do it. Crab ass coons. Always cutting their nose off to spite their face.

Allow me to flesh out what YOU just said about the Jews.
The Jews will literally make a candidate state specifically what they will do for the JEWISH state of Israel. How much aid you will give, and etc. Etc.

Now as Black people, why aren't we allowed to do the same? Yesterday she already skated the Black question (at Howard University btw) and started talking about poor mothers in Kansas.


So do you see the folly in your very own question and condemnation of those who simply ask for tangibles out of someone they vote for?

 

[roots69]

There are a ton of articles out there on her political record but this is an accurate and succinct summary of her record generally:

Earl Ofari Hutchinson, president of the Los Angeles Urban Policy Roundtable, told the Sacramento Bee that Harris could’ve been “a more vigorous advocate for full criminal justice reform” and that she was “unwilling to be big and bold.” “Harris’s role has not been pivotal” in reshaping the criminal justice system, the paper wrote. “The pyramid shook, but often it wasn’t her doing the shaking.”

She is a middle of the road democrat masquerading as a real progressive (like most are to be fair). She will be attacked from the left for not going hard on Steve Mnuchin’s bank and being against early prisoner release programs. She also backed out of challenging the cash bail system. I think her biggest problems will arise from her actual background and her husband. This is from her aunt:

"It is funny that some newspapers like The Los Angeles Times described her as the first black woman to enter the Senate while some describe her as an Indian American. Let them write whatever they want...Even though she was born and brought up in America, my sister has inculcated in her South Indian culture and values. She believes in going to the temple because her mother believed in it. Kamala is what she is today because of her mother. The credit doesn't go to any other person. It is my sister, her mother, who brought her up like this," Dr Gopalan said.

Im glad yall kats are bringing all this up.. Because, I was going to start droppin dimes on sellout k harris!!

 

[roots69]

So asking questions and demanding tangibles makes one a Russian bot now

I think voting for someone just because they *insert whatever is considered Black behavior* and have no demands makes you a bot.


But that's just me, and the many others on this growing list...

Im so tired of hearing this russian bs!! See how the mainstream media and say something over and over, then the people believe its true!! You cant tell people they are being manipulated by the media, they will really start defending the lies and then start quoting cnn, abc, msnbc!! The deception runs so deep!!!

 

[MistaPhantastic]

Allow me to flesh out what YOU just said about the Jews.
The Jews will literally make a candidate state specifically what they will do for the JEWISH state of Israel. How much aid you will give, and etc. Etc.

Now as Black people, why aren't we allowed to do the same? Yesterday she already skated the Black question (at Howard University btw) and started talking about poor mothers in Kansas.


So do you see the folly in your very own question and condemnation of those who simply ask for tangibles out of someone they vote for?

Agreed. It is truly time that we stopped giving away the black vote to a specific party and do what EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY does and ask what the hell they are going to do for us to EARN that vote.
Identity voting doesn't work. Demand something in exchange for our votes.

 

[Flawless]

Trump is president yet y'all attacking the black candidate.

 

[Dr. Truth]

Trump is president yet y'all attacking the black candidate.

They setting up to make an excuse to not vote so Trump can win again. These niggas want A 5%er as president so they can watch him give press briefings about the earfs and gods . We got a legit open white supremacist terrorizing the country and they focused on attacking Kamala Harris. Any Black person running they’ll tear them down too. They need their white Daddy to make things ok

 

[Simply_Black]

Agreed. It is truly time that we stopped giving away the black vote to a specific party and do what EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY does and ask what the hell they are going to do for us to EARN that vote.
Identity voting doesn't work. Demand something in exchange for our votes.

Perfect answer my brother.

….. and to think that Tariq Nasheed has been hated for saying that same thing many times over.

We immediately need to start holding each and every candidate accountable for their promises and actions first and foremost, and cast way the backwards mentality of party affiliation which serve us no purpose.

The sooner we all wake up to that forward level of thinking the better outcome we will have.

 

[Dr. Truth]

Perfect answer my brother.

….. and to think that Tariq Nasheed has been hated for saying that same thing many times over.

We immediately need to start holding each and every candidate accountable for their promises and actions first and foremost, and cast way the backwards mentality of party affiliation which serve us no purpose.

The sooner we all wake up to that forward level of thinking the better outcome we will have.

What do you want from a president? The moment they start catering to Us they will get called a left wing SJW anti White racist and impeached or worse. It happened to Obama just for mentioning racism. Obama did what he could and it still wasn’t enough for yall

 

[Teknique310]

The Elder weighs in.

Im pretty sure I use to serve him back in the mid 90'z he might still owe me on credit

Is that a roach crawling on the wall @ 1:33 ?

 

[roots69]

Agreed. It is truly time that we stopped giving away the black vote to a specific party and do what EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY does and ask what the hell they are going to do for us to EARN that vote.
Identity voting doesn't work. Demand something in exchange for our votes.

Right on.. Ive been saying that for years, have these politicians give us a written plan and after a year or two if nothing is getting done.. Start the recall process and get someone else in there!! The days of showing up at a black church and rocking back and forth, then takin pics with a few kids and then giving a feel good speech are fucking over!! Its time to snap outta this damn illusion and make these officials earn every damn vote from us!! These corporate dems have sum of these copper color people right where they want them!! Its time to flip the script!!

 

[Soul On Ice]

Agreed. It is truly time that we stopped giving away the black vote to a specific party and do what EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY does and ask what the hell they are going to do for us to EARN that vote.
Identity voting doesn't work. Demand something in exchange for our votes.

I had a member here tell me yesterday that now is not the time to ask for something for our votes.

Is all I could really do.

 

[ankhheru]

I had a member here tell me yesterday that now is not the time to ask for something for our votes.

Is all I could really do.

They say that every election cycle and for every candidate. Literally. It's like they don't think they're vote is worth anything. In reality I don't think they believe they are worth anything.

 

[MistaPhantastic]

Trump is president yet y'all attacking the black candidate.

Shouldn't a candidate be more than just black? Is that enough? Would you vote for Condoleeza Rice if she ran for President?
Would her being black and female be enough, knowing how hard she rode for the Bush administration?
Its about knowing who you are backing. Its best that we vet these people now rather than have it blow up on us later. Kamala went against the big banks. That's good. She also went against black men via the industrial prison complex and pressing for higher convictions and against poor by trying to make it legal to incarcerate the parents of truant children, knowing that does not help. That is bad. Its best to know who you are supporting before you blindly throw in support on the "anybody but Trump" ticket.

You know, the one thing I could say for Bernie is that his campaign hasn't changed. Dude has been for single payer health care and free college from day 1. He's old as fuck but I know what he's about; same thing he's been about for 40+ years. He ain't perfect but he's no wild card and doesn't have to be vetted. I don't need a white candidate but I do need to know that whoever I support isn't going to flip on the community and make me regret my vote or sit back and be a do-nothing and just smile and be black and act like that's enough.
I am not looking to argue about it. I'm just seeding food for thought.
I would love to see a "magic negroe" candidate but if there isn't one on the horizon, identity voting just ain't enough for me. I'm just speaking for myself. And that's coming from someone who believes the system is rigged but votes anyway.

 

[CORNBREAD]

Politics is a funny game...Dont trust it..those that I believed in uplifting our people ..are dead..And/or are victims of Character assassination.

 

[OUT THARE]

They say that every election cycle and for every candidate. Literally. It's like they don't think they're vote is worth anything. In reality I don't think they believe they are worth anything.

 

[Camille]

I had a member here tell me yesterday that now is not the time to ask for something for our votes.

Is all I could really do.

Now is the time and it's time to vet candidates, but folks are dismissing her before she has even had a chance to address anything. It's in the general that it's too late to do anything. We already know most republicans are full of shit. Once the general hits, the choice is a dem or 4 more years of Trump. Tearing her down and attacking her at this point isn't constructive. She also has been very effective in the senate, and needs support in that capacity.

 

[ugk]

Now is the time and it's time to vet candidates, but folks are dismissing her before she has even had a chance to address anything. It's in the general that it's too late to do anything. We already know most republicans are full of shit. Once the general hits, the choice is a dem or 4 more years of Trump. Tearing her down and attacking her at this point isn't constructive. She also has been very effective in the senate, and needs support in that capacity.

Effective at what? She's barely been in the Senate for 2 years, she hasn't done jack shit.

 

[hocjo2626]

Now is the time and it's time to vet candidates, but folks are dismissing her before she has even had a chance to address anything. It's in the general that it's too late to do anything. We already know most republicans are full of shit. Once the general hits, the choice is a dem or 4 more years of Trump. Tearing her down and attacking her at this point isn't constructive. She also has been very effective in the senate, and needs support in that capacity.

Now this is one of the most common sense, level-headed, fair comments I've seen thus far in this thread. I can dig this.