Daz: Kurupt had sex with a 13 year old girl

Ninjas dont even really be undercover. Society just doesnt really give a shit unless the posse has saddled up and started to ride, or its some lil chick they know. Which is why this shit is so weird to me. When Chappelle made a sketch it then became pop culture. So people can't play ignorant. Those in the know, knew back in the mid 90s. People just don't give a fuck. It's just the in thing to ride on now so that what they gone do. I've never been a Kells fan to begin with, so it wasn't much to boycott. But if you been riding with him this long... Whats the point on changing up now for??? None of this shit is new. Lifetime just made a movie with what was already out there. Just layin in the driveway, they ain't even have to look for it. If people are truly mad about it... THEN STAY MAD!!! Start on them muthafuckas in the church. White and black ones. Make this shit socially unacceptable longterm, and not just cause you're full of piss and vinegar because of a movie. I'm serious, this shit is woven into the fabric of every civilization since we started. Time to stop looking the other way.
This is wild contradictory. Why start paying attention now but also it's time to stop looking the other way?

Wrong for 100 days > wrong for 99 is why speak up now.
Listen
They want to make black people the face
It's fucked up.
Also the black ppl doing it are fucked up.

Brian singer rapes men and just won a golden globe last night

And I can mention other groups cause they mention us
We are the only ppl that say well don't talk about anyone else until you fix your shit

That rule don't apply to nobody else they happily chime in on our shit all the time

All the shit must stop but you'd be a fool to think they're not putting us out there on purpose and letting others slide
it's two separate issues though. They blame as much of EVERYTHING as they can on us, this is and has always been true and is the crux of the age old "you have to be twice as good as them" philosophy. See Obama.

But in a case where the nigga they putting on blast is wild guilty, my first argument isn't but yall do it too. Not when the people being sacrificed are our lil sistas. Because that's who's bring damaged and who needs the protection, not the rapist.

That doesn't minimize the fact that we are THE MAIN victims of media bias not one bit, it just makes this the wrong case to call exhibit A. And definitely makes for a bad time to make it the primary argument. In my opinion.
nobody boycotted that boyfucker films cause he didn't have a 3 day bash fest of crying boys with scary music being called surviving singer...where's Kevin spacey boy fucker 3 day bash fest... Why aren't white women going white males don't care about our lil boys and don't protect them...why isn't there a million tweets informing you that these boy fuckers are bad...where's the glaad protest outside the award show saying Brian is a disgrace to the gay community... Why didn't the award show deny the boyfucker a seat in the arena...put a foot on his nec
that's simply not true though man. There's mad documentaries and films about the church shit, like why would you even say that one? The catholic church scandals have sent people to jail and become as much of a running societal joke as Kells peeing on chicks. The catholic shit has actually seen way more media attention. Not sure how you're ignoring that one.

You keep saying white folks too, like Dream Hampton didn't make this movie. This shit was FUBU, it's just that he's such a current pop culture icon that it's getting tons of publicity. Muhfuckas don't even know who Brian Singer is like that. And there's not video of anyone else pissing on and fucking a child. And most of their shit is older stories, not shit that's still actively happening. We are and have always been unfairly treated in the media but all that shit tips the scales in a way you are refusing to acknowledge. Kells story is pretty fucking salacious.

And to be real, until this docu-series, Kells was right there getting away with everything alongside the very people you're naming. A sister took it upon herself to try to deal with shit that the law failed to deal with, which is an acknowledged problem in our community if you read these threads, and took it to the biggest platform she could to try to shine a light on and stop it. And you have a problem with that?

Weird hill to die on.

i am going to respectfully disagree about two things that are be said in here.

1. there are countless documentaries and news stories about catholic priest abuse of children. as much as that is swept under the rug people have went to prison and been punished otherwise for it. there was a major story about it just a couple of weeks ago.

2. not so long ago we had a months long saga about jerry sandusky and penn state. that shit was talked about everyday. documentaries, docu-series and movies have been made about that. sandusky and others went to prison over this.

the r. kelly shit is at full volume for us because it hit so close to home for our community. as i have stated before i have been telling the same r. kelly story for almost 30 years. didn't shit happen back then. no one believed us. and people that KNOW what happened still play his shit. i don't play his shit and i refuse to listen to it.

as others have stated, calling out r. kelly to many women is like you called their mama a bitch. this celebrity worship must stop.
agreed.
 
This is wild contradictory. Why start paying attention now but also it's time to stop looking the other way?

Wrong for 100 days > wrong for 99 is why speak up now.
it's two separate issues though. They blame as much of EVERYTHING as they can on us, this is and has always been true and is the crux of the age old "you have to be twice as good as them" philosophy. See Obama.

But in a case where the nigga they putting on blast is wild guilty, my first argument isn't but yall do it too. Not when the people being sacrificed are our lil sistas. Because that's who's bring damaged and who needs the protection, not the rapist.

That doesn't minimize the fact that we are THE MAIN victims of media bias not one bit, it just makes this the wrong case to call exhibit A. And definitely makes for a bad time to make it the primary argument. In my opinion.
that's simply not true though man. There's mad documentaries and films about the church shit, like why would you even say that one? The catholic church scandals have sent people to jail and become as much of a running societal joke as Kells peeing on chicks. The catholic shit has actually seen way more media attention. Not sure how you're ignoring that one.

You keep saying white folks too, like Dream Hampton didn't make this movie. This shit was FUBU, it's just that he's such a current pop culture icon that it's getting tons of publicity. Muhfuckas don't even know who Brian Singer is like that. And there's not video of anyone else pissing on and fucking a child. And most of their shit is older stories, not shit that's still actively happening. We are and have always been unfairly treated in the media but all that shit tips the scales in a way you are refusing to acknowledge. Kells story is pretty fucking salacious.

And to be real, until this docu-series, Kells was right there getting away with everything alongside the very people you're naming. A sister took it upon herself to try to deal with shit that the law failed to deal with, which is an acknowledged problem in our community if you read these threads, and took it to the biggest platform she could to try to shine a light on and stop it. And you have a problem with that?

Weird hill to die on.

agreed.

Well it's not my primary argument my problem is ppl don't want to have a discussion

It's once you say he's a piece of shit which he is that's it
No room to discuss other issues on the spectrum and that's dangerous

It's not my primary or secondary
Stance is he is piece of shit
Protect our women
Call out predators

Those are the baseline in the discussion

If I say things about other things relevant to the conversation of sexual predators it does not render my foundation useless that's my only issue

It's dangerous as shit to become a place where we can't even touch on anything other than the main thing even if you agree with the side of right on the main thing
 
This is the whole what about Obama shit that racists use to defend Trump when trashing Trump. I don’t give a fuck about any of them cac pedophiles it doesn’t change the fact that R Kelly is one. But what about the Catholics what about Hollywood, well? What about ? Who gives a fuck about them too.
 
Well it's not my primary argument my problem is ppl don't want to have a discussion

It's once you say he's a piece of shit which he is that's it
No room to discuss other issues on the spectrum and that's dangerous

It's not my primary or secondary
Stance is he is piece of shit
Protect our women
Call out predators

Those are the baseline in the discussion

If I say things about other things relevant to the conversation of sexual predators it does not render my foundation useless that's my only issue

It's dangerous as shit to become a place where we can't even touch on anything other than the main thing even if you agree with the side of right on the main thing
right, but you know you're not really the one in talking about either.

Its safe to say you have made points about our unfair and inconsistent treatment in the media plenty of times before this doc was released. We probably all have.

But I find it odd and problematic that when a muhfucka hurting our girls becomes the focus, so many of us choose that path. It's like damn okay there's this one historic thing that's bad, and yes that's true and needs to be dealt with but these girls are right in front of us right now. What kind of fucking timing is that?

Our girls deserve being tended to without an asterisk right now. That's all I'm saying.
 
This is wild contradictory. Why start paying attention now but also it's time to stop looking the other way?

Wrong for 100 days > wrong for 99 is why speak up now.
it's two separate issues though. They blame as much of EVERYTHING as they can on us, this is and has always been true and is the crux of the age old "you have to be twice as good as them" philosophy. See Obama.

But in a case where the nigga they putting on blast is wild guilty, my first argument isn't but yall do it too. Not when the people being sacrificed are our lil sistas. Because that's who's bring damaged and who needs the protection, not the rapist.

That doesn't minimize the fact that we are THE MAIN victims of media bias not one bit, it just makes this the wrong case to call exhibit A. And definitely makes for a bad time to make it the primary argument. In my opinion.
that's simply not true though man. There's mad documentaries and films about the church shit, like why would you even say that one? The catholic church scandals have sent people to jail and become as much of a running societal joke as Kells peeing on chicks. The catholic shit has actually seen way more media attention. Not sure how you're ignoring that one.

You keep saying white folks too, like Dream Hampton didn't make this movie. This shit was FUBU, it's just that he's such a current pop culture icon that it's getting tons of publicity. Muhfuckas don't even know who Brian Singer is like that. And there's not video of anyone else pissing on and fucking a child. And most of their shit is older stories, not shit that's still actively happening. We are and have always been unfairly treated in the media but all that shit tips the scales in a way you are refusing to acknowledge. Kells story is pretty fucking salacious.

And to be real, until this docu-series, Kells was right there getting away with everything alongside the very people you're naming. A sister took it upon herself to try to deal with shit that the law failed to deal with, which is an acknowledged problem in our community if you read these threads, and took it to the biggest platform she could to try to shine a light on and stop it. And you have a problem with that?

Weird hill to die on.

agreed.
Do you want me to see if I can bump them old xmen threads where I said let's boycott the boyfuckerboyfucker and dudes were still pushing to go see xmen ? Bgol wasn't like yes we gonna make a group effort to boycott singer... Nigs was making excuses to go cause of their kids, making excuses saying maybe he was lying, nigs was putting mad energy to support the boyfucker singer in that thread so no excuses for nigs didn't know about Brian singer...black pedo bad white pedo good
 
This is wild contradictory. Why start paying attention now but also it's time to stop looking the other way?

Wrong for 100 days > wrong for 99 is why speak up now.

I'm calling out the phoney outrage people. They ain't been caring, and all of this shit been out in the open for decades. So why now??? Cause its in your face and the new "thing" to be outraged about??? What changed??? Now, if you're mad about this issue,(now that Kells done got people's blood pressure up) then stay mad and say something when you see it. I'm not talking to the people who've been saying the Kells, and priests and the local dude are scum. I'm talking directly to the people that are really just riding cause they joined the mob with pitch forks. Keep this same energy and vilify the shit longterm.......... 2 different points on the same topic.
 
I'm calling out the phoney outrage people. They ain't been caring, and all of this shit been out in the open for decades. So why now??? Cause its in your face and the new "thing" to be outraged about??? What changed??? Now, if you're mad about this issue,(now that Kells done got people's blood pressure up) then stay mad and say something when you see it. I'm not talking to the people who've been saying the Kells, and priests and the local dude are scum. I'm talking directly to the people that are really just riding cause they joined the mob with pitch forks. Keep this same energy and vilify the shit longterm.......... 2 different points on the same topic.
How are you making the distinction? You got a list?
 
I'm calling out the phoney outrage people. They ain't been caring, and all of this shit been out in the open for decades. So why now??? Cause its in your face and the new "thing" to be outraged about??? What changed??? Now, if you're mad about this issue,(now that Kells done got people's blood pressure up) then stay mad and say something when you see it. I'm not talking to the people who've been saying the Kells, and priests and the local dude are scum. I'm talking directly to the people that are really just riding cause they joined the mob with pitch forks. Keep this same energy and vilify the shit longterm.......... 2 different points on the same topic.
Anybody who was pro singer is trash. But Im betting this was no majority, and that no one was defending Singer as vociferously.

Yes bump that thread please.
 
On BGOL??? No, but on my social media where everybody is on their self righteous horse??? Yeah... Cause I've known a good many of them since highschool...
Ok so back to my original point

Being wrong for 99 days is better than being wrong for 100. What exactly is the point you're riding for? That if they were wrong then, they should continue? I don't get that.
 
im about to take a break from social media......

if its not business related....im not doing it

this is gonna be a long year.....with this shyt

Preach, it's gone at this point.

I need to know how to keep Google out my life. Strongly thinking of switch to Microsoft for email, storage and more.
 
right, but you know you're not really the one in talking about either.

Its safe to say you have made points about our unfair and inconsistent treatment in the media plenty of times before this doc was released. We probably all have.

But I find it odd and problematic that when a muhfucka hurting our girls becomes the focus, so many of us choose that path. It's like damn okay there's this one historic thing that's bad, and yes that's true and needs to be dealt with but these girls are right in front of us right now. What kind of fucking timing is that?

Our girls deserve being tended to without an asterisk right now. That's all I'm saying.


I agree

I also think that if we attack all of it then we can solve problems

Cause this same media didn't give a fuck about this nigga marrying a 15 year old and are now riding into battle on the high horse like they were bout it all along

It's fake


They don't care about our women either

I do you do most of us black men do
But again we are justed by our worst and I just can't get with that
I can judge him and say eliminate him and we need to do a better job of rooting these niggas out
I guess I feel like we got failed as kids and now we are the ones that have to change things which is fine but don't throw the whole shit on us we were kids when the ppl talking shit about us.. and by us I mean black men women and kids .. were letting it all go down
 
damn, and i forgot about Jared from Subway.

that shit was front page on everything for months. and he is gone for the rest of his life.

so stop with the false equivalence.


Fuck out of here
Subway hasn't even acknowledged their role in facilitating that monster

He was using company money to run his child ring and they knew about it

They just removed his commercials and his image trotted athletes out there and it didn't even exist

It's why I don't eat at Subway to this day
They completely skated they didn't even apologize
 
I agree

I also think that if we attack all of it then we can solve problems

Cause this same media didn't give a fuck about this nigga marrying a 15 year old and are now riding into battle on the high horse like they were bout it all along

It's fake


They don't care about our women either

I do you do most of us black men do
But again we are justed by our worst and I just can't get with that
I can judge him and say eliminate him and we need to do a better job of rooting these niggas out
I guess I feel like we got failed as kids and now we are the ones that have to change things which is fine but don't throw the whole shit on us we were kids when the ppl talking shit about us.. and by us I mean black men women and kids .. were letting it all go down
I hear you bro. The information age is different though b. Nobody knew shit in 1995 if it didn't happen right in their face damn near. Some of the way this is being discussed is just a natural condition of it all being able to unfold in real time in everyone's pocket at once. Literally everything is talked about more now than it was then simply because it can be.

And to be real, blank folks are talking about this 100x more than white folks right now, so you could flip the fake outrage thing on its ear and say now niggas are outraged with the media but everything was static when protecting black girls wasn't the issue.

You're not wrong, and I think as with anything, we gotta be able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. But like I said, to choose now as the time to be like but wait, what about xyz. Doesn't really sit right with me.

And it's some sad shit to be eating ourselves over.
 
Fuck out of here
Subway hasn't even acknowledged their role in facilitating that monster

He was using company money to run his child ring and they knew about it

They just removed his commercials and his image trotted athletes out there and it didn't even exist

It's why I don't eat at Subway to this day
They completely skated they didn't even apologize
Subway knew??
 
I hear you bro. The information age is different though b. Nobody knew shit in 1995 if it didn't happen right in their face damn near. Some of the way this is being discussed is just a natural condition of it all being able to unfold in real time in everyone's pocket at once. Literally everything is talked about more now than it was then simply because it can be.

And to be real, blank folks are talking about this 100x more than white folks right now, so you could flip the fake outrage thing on its ear and say now niggas are outraged with the media but everything was static when protecting black girls wasn't the issue.

You're not wrong, and I think as with anything, we gotta be able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. But like I said, to choose now as the time to be like but wait, what about xyz. Doesn't really sit right with me.

And it's some sad shit to be eating ourselves over.

Right but I'm always for walking and chewing gum

We aren't absolved but it's fake how our issues are magnified

I'm tired of that
 
Fuck out of here
Subway hasn't even acknowledged their role in facilitating that monster

He was using company money to run his child ring and they knew about it

They just removed his commercials and his image trotted athletes out there and it didn't even exist

It's why I don't eat at Subway to this day
They completely skated they didn't even apologize

i wasn't talking about subway. i was talking about how the news handled the situation.

and they blew the cover off of all that shit. u right that subway didn't say shit. but the news did.

it was lead story/front page news for months.

and the most important part is that he was incarcerated over his fuckery. no pun intended.
 
i wasn't talking about subway. i was talking about how the news handled the situation.

and they blew the cover off of all that shit. u right that subway didn't say shit. but the news did.

it was lead story/front page news for months.

and the most important part is that he was incarcerated over his fuckery. no pun intended.


Even in your example it shows the difference
Jared ran the shit and white men weren't called in to question as to why they weren't stopping him

The parents of the kids weren't getting slammed by people in the media
And subway got away with any responsibility of it all

See how it's different but the same crime?

And they both a piece of shit this don't excuse r Kelly whom I've never supported I mixed r Kelly when I was old enough to understand what even happened
 
Ok so back to my original point

Being wrong for 99 days is better than being wrong for 100. What exactly is the point you're riding for? That if they were wrong then, they should continue? I don't get that.

I don't understand their outrage NOW... What new discovery or coming to Jesus moment happened??? If it was tangible... Then stay mad about this same issue when it's not the thing to be mad at. Cause again none of this shit is new. Not as far as Kells, or old sick muthafuckas taking advantage of kids sexually. I've seen more outrage over Kells, than priests... When it's women doing it to young boys, mee to ain't nowhere around. Naaa... Keep this same energy...
 
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Hell yes they knew.
People were reporting to them that Jared was a fucking creep

There's threads on it in here I've commented in those threads too

He had a charity where he scouted and groomed them man and his number 2 who also is in jail was in on it too

It was a full system

Everyone knew.
That's fucked up
 
Even in your example it shows the difference
Jared ran the shit and white men weren't called in to question as to why they weren't stopping him

The parents of the kids weren't getting slammed by people in the media
And subway got away with any responsibility of it all

See how it's different but the same crime?

And they both a piece of shit this don't excuse r Kelly whom I've never supported I mixed r Kelly when I was old enough to understand what even happened

we can agree to disagree. just like jared, kelly has a machine behind him that has kept him out of serious trouble for 30 years. keeping it real jared didn't have a 30 year machine that kept him out of jail. and now he is gone forever. i don't even think kelly will see a day in county.
 
Even in your example it shows the difference
Jared ran the shit and white men weren't called in to question as to why they weren't stopping him

The parents of the kids weren't getting slammed by people in the media
And subway got away with any responsibility of it all

See how it's different but the same crime?

And they both a piece of shit this don't excuse r Kelly whom I've never supported I mixed r Kelly when I was old enough to understand what even happened
But it's not like Jared had a 20 year history of sexual complaints and albums talking about how she wasn't nothing but a number lol

But saying NOBODY knew, but it certainly wasn't common knowledge. There was no public breadcrumb trail leading up to holy shit Jared's a pedo.

And fuck Jared too, just saying it seems like an apples to oranges comparison.
 
New Edition - N.E. Heartbreak

"Live at five interview for Channel 2
Saw a cutie, thought she was on the TV crew
She said after the show (I'll be waiting for you) Cool
After the show she got in the car and what a scene
Her dad was the driver of the limousine
I didn't know she was only thirteen
It was a young girl heartbreak"


how the fuck the grown ass niggaz not tell a bitch is 13.......might as well say 12....?
girl probably barely has titties......smh

:eek:
 
I don't understand their outrage NOW... What new discovery or coming to Jesus moment happened??? If it was tangible... Then stay mad about this same issue when it's not the thing to be mad at. Cause again none of this shit is new. Not as far as Kells, or old sick muthafuckas taking advantage of kids sexually. I've seen more outrage over Kells, than priests... When it's women doing it to young boys, mee to ain't nowhere around. Naaa... Keep this same energy...
Okay but regardless of the why

Isn't it better to address these things than leave them?

If the net gain is the thing you're asking for, why are you mad at that?
 
The problem with these type of accusations is they have no proof at this point its all speculation.

However, in the court of public opinion especially the public opinion of Black people and Black celebrities, Black voices tend to be the popular voices. So when the gossip hits the media circuit Black celebrities are quickly chewed up spit out and convicted, all that’s left is for the rest of the media to do away with them.

We’ve seen this happen with Bill Cosby and Tiger Woods. Both of whom alienated their black fanbases before they were attacked by sexual assault allegations and infidelity accusations. Black voices are featured and listened to prominently when accusing another Black person. Once those voices get popular everyone piles in. This is how dangerous gossip can be and how dangerous popular opinion can be.
 
Boosie just dropped a bomb;Hugh Hefner.....fucking America's porcelain white angelic girls,many at one time,parents handing them over giving them permission and blessings to live with him.Thank about it.....crazy.
 
Well it's not my primary argument my problem is ppl don't want to have a discussion

It's once you say he's a piece of shit which he is that's it
No room to discuss other issues on the spectrum and that's dangerous

It's not my primary or secondary
Stance is he is piece of shit
Protect our women
Call out predators

Those are the baseline in the discussion

If I say things about other things relevant to the conversation of sexual predators it does not render my foundation useless that's my only issue

It's dangerous as shit to become a place where we can't even touch on anything other than the main thing even if you agree with the side of right on the main thing
exactly - more than one issue can be acknowledged / condemned at the same time

RKelly is a piece of shit
Everyone that enabled him - accomplice or complicit - are disgusting human beings

both of these statements are true and discussing one does not minimize detract from nor contradict the other
right, but you know you're not really the one in talking about either.

Its safe to say you have made points about our unfair and inconsistent treatment in the media plenty of times before this doc was released. We probably all have.

But I find it odd and problematic that when a muhfucka hurting our girls becomes the focus, so many of us choose that path. It's like damn okay there's this one historic thing that's bad, and yes that's true and needs to be dealt with but these girls are right in front of us right now. What kind of fucking timing is that?

Our girls deserve being tended to without an asterisk right now. That's all I'm saying.
many of those complicit in harming / exploiting these girls are also right in front of us now!

Why can't we both support and empathize with the victims while also seeking to unleash nemesis on the sycophants that had a hand in harming these women?

How is it harmful to the discussion to also take note of opportunists and the various other agendas also at play?

this disgusting fool.... it may take a year or 3 but he is going to jail
damn, and i forgot about Jared from Subway.

that shit was front page on everything for months. and he is gone for the rest of his life.

so stop with the false equivalence.
perfect example
Jared was the poster boy for a while - iirc only one other person was sent to jail... meanwhile there was copious evidence of a pedo ring - there was also evidence that Subway's management was aware, and helped keep shit quiet... and later continued to do so even after a franchisee brought them first hand info and evidence

No one from Subway was indicted or arrested.... none of the stories reported on TV about Jared detailed how much help he got...not event an allusion or hint definitely no 3 night special

Sandusky.... pretty much the exact same thing - despite evidence pointing to a wide spread pedo ring there were limited prosecutions, no TV reporting on the help he got - most they ever did was throw Paterno under the bus

The dirt on Sandusky deserved at least 2 -60 Minutes episodes by himself - not even HBO Real Sport went in like they do with other scandals of this magnitude
But it's not like Jared had a 20 year history of sexual complaints and albums talking about how she wasn't nothing but a number lol

But saying NOBODY knew, but it certainly wasn't common knowledge. There was no public breadcrumb trail leading up to holy shit Jared's a pedo.

And fuck Jared too, just saying it seems like an apples to oranges comparison.
Subway management and multiple franchisee knew about Jared for years
 
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Fuck out of here
Subway hasn't even acknowledged their role in facilitating that monster

He was using company money to run his child ring and they knew about it

They just removed his commercials and his image trotted athletes out there and it didn't even exist

It's why I don't eat at Subway to this day
They completely skated they didn't even apologize
:yes:
 
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