Roland Martin fires shots at Tariq, Jason Black and all ‘don’t voters’
- Thread starter Mr. Met
- Start date
Do you see what your typing?
I'm an agent because I don't believe the KKK is running the republican party with the ultimate goal of putting all black people back in chains?
I'm really concerned for some of yall.
Agreed. Most posting here are basically united in wanting liberation, equality and a better life for Black folks.
Where we disagree is in how to get to that place. It's not as sharp a disagreement as it appears to be, once all the stupid insults back and forth are brushed away.
What's more important than simply voting is that we're involved in the political process, period - whether an election is upcoming or not.
Those who say that politicians should earn our vote, do have a point.
Alongside that, our responsibility as Black people should be that we hold any sitting elected officials' feet to the fire to respond to our demands - even if they never spoke of us or to us in the first place.
As the disagreements in this thread go, most solutions proposed that do not entail simply sitting at home and not voting - are valid.
What is important to recognize is that it's not an either/or. It's an "in addition to voting we should be _____".
Vote in national and local elections.
But in the downtime, we should be fighting to put severe limits on campaign financing overall especially corporate so that we can move toward having true multiparty elections and end the stranglehold of the Republican and Democratic parties.
Black folks should be organizing to raise up our own candidates who represent our interests.
We should be looking into the possibility of politically allying with other minority populations (like Latinos - who have similar voting trends as us) to raise up candidates who rep issues vital to our respective groups' needs (better schools, reform to criminal justice system, a cessation of police brutality and false arrests, etc). Numbers mean power.
Basically, we need to stop lying down and allowing ourselves to be held hostage by the lesser of two evils time and time again.
We should be lobbying to get rid of the electoral college system that is not only outdated but unfairly preferential to the Repubs.
In short, we need to collectively be aware of what is going on nationally and locally and know who is in charge of what and be diligent in checking up on them. These are the beginnings of political involvement.
Last edited:
Let me Colin-ize this rant: Republicans are solely responsible for all the problems in the world.
It's not just the voting, it's financial support also. We don't give money as a bloc.
Good point.
The thought crossed my mind, Millie, but I wasn't gonna touch that one.
Nonsense. The electoral college is the only way to force candidates to pay attention to the needs and concerns of their constituents in fly-over states.
Without it this country will be controlled by coastal liberal elites who already think they know whats best for everybody.
Not.
I’m wit my young bol young sinister
You niggas have no answers
Just go vote and stfu
You niggas have no answers
Just go vote and stfu
Damn you You dudes are sweet
I guarantee your a fag though. I've never seen you post any pussy on the board. matter of fact a quick search will show i get pussy what about you fags? stay in your lane homo and stick to debating grown ass men about their right to vote.
Last edited:
"Somebody said we need to have a debate. For what? I'm not trying to debate a big fat rotisserie-chicken looking ass nigga"
He mink slided around the question. Beyond the Photoshop and trash talk trolling, Tariq won't debate him.
Yeah, so? Roland isn't that bright and Tariq has no education. Why would someone care about them debating?
Homie please shut up. You aren't saying anything. My knowledge is on par with most people. At the most basic level, politics is about the allocation of resources. Given the definition of the word, there was nothing I said that is out of reason. You have fucking illegals with politicans that campaign for them, but you really think you're making a point when I don't go into the details between federal and state politics. When you look at the benefits that other groups are getting, then decide to come at me for wanting benefits for my own people, you look like a fucking coward. I've been talking nothing but BLACK FIRST benefits, and you somehow found a way to try to clown me. Coming to the most basic conclusions in order to maintain your stance against someone who wants benefits for his own group (which you are a part of). You can ask the average American citizen the same shit you quized me with and they will give you the same response. But they will go just as hard for benefits, and most of them actually get it. What a fucking joke.
Last edited:
what benefits are you talking about? what benefits are other groups getting that we are not getting?
If Jews can get funds for the holocaust we can get reparations for Slavery
We are the only ones who should receive minority based loans and grants. No one else went through what we went through in this country
The easiest way to get rid of the citizens United BS would to form a powerful, black based super PAC corporations could give ridiculous amounts of money to. Everybody and their momma would want to know where the money was coming from and try to put an end to it. Those laws are in place because wealthy whites and their shady donors are the ones who use them to their advantage. Few dems, even outrageously wealthy dems, give at the levels of wealthy GOP donors. They passed a law or put something in place specifically intended to shield the NRA from having to disclose their donors because of their ties to Russia. Now that it's in effect, it applies to all. Don't hate the player, learn the game.
I wasted bout 10 mins on this youtube comment but catharsis is good right?
all ya'll don't vote negros are nothing but new-age coons. ya'll ain't running for office or writing-in good candidates; yeah lets just sit in the corner and die while klan culture passes legislation to make sure black folk never achieve economic empowerment.
saying there is no difference between a fast death and a slow death is ignorant af. time is valuable dumb-ass. more time to fight means a better chance for progress . but yall new-age coons just want to give up and let the klan have their way.
so maybe ya'll ain't the slave cracking the whip in the fields , or the house slave snitching for extra bread, but you sure as hell helping the klan to dismantle our escape plan because you had an argument over something petty and you salty
you are mistaken.
the United States does not now nor ever has allocated tax dollars to pay jews reparations for what happened during WW2.
that had nothing to do with our political process, as a jewish group sued 47 countries excluding the US for that money and won in the aftermath of WW2.
the most the US has done is pledged to keep track of those countries that do or dont pay and disperse funds from other countries to jewish people here .
and as long as Black folks get minority based loans and grants, why do you care if anyone else gets them?
my uncle got them from the Clinton administration, my college buddy got them from the Obama administration.
submit a strong detailed plan and maybe you can too.
I see his point. There should be things set aside for us and us alone. Where I'm coming from doesn't stem from hatred for other oppressed groups. It's self love. We suffered and were held back for hundreds of years by this government through slavery, discrimination and just shutting us out of being able to live fully human and we are still suffering today. That would be moving more into the territory of reparations - which we haven't been given to date. Japanese citizens, for example, who were interned in camps by the U.S. military for only a few years during WWII were compensated.
Last edited:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/obama-administration-earmarks-12m-for-holocaust-survivors/
My fam is friends with 2 families who benefited from this (the elders simply distributed the money to family memebers)
There are similar financial awards that Jews that I have known have received over the years
As for why I care for other groups eating off our struggle? Because they don’t deserve it, simple and plain. Every time a non Black gets a financial reward, that’s a Black person who doesn’t. You may not agree with my line of thinking but I know you definitely understand
Last edited:
This is what we should collectively be doing more of. That's an essential part of being involved in the political process beyond simply voting for a lesser of two evils.
That's not true. Show us where that's true.
bruh, i already told you where that money came from.
it was reallocated to use as welfare instead of a retirement fund.
and again, if you are getting yours, why worry about anyone else? your worry needs to be channeled into more help for yourself and your people.
but since you brought it up...
...President Obama Launches My Brother's Keeper, His New Initiative to Help Young Men of Color
This afternoon, in the East Room of the White House, President Obama delivered remarks at the launch event for My Brother's Keeper -- his new initiative aimed at helping young men and boys of color facing tough odds reach their full potential. The initiative will bring together private philanthropies, businesses, governors, mayors, faith leaders, and nonprofit organizations that are committed to helping them succeed.
As the President said in today's remarks, ensuring that young men of color can reach their full potential is the only way "America can reach its full potential."
President Obama announced that philanthropies and corporate leaders have pledged to invest at least $200 million over the next five years -- on top of $150 million that they have already invested -- to figure out which programs are the most successful in helping young men of color and replicate them in communities across the country. He also signed a presidential memorandum directing the federal government to determine the best methods to improve the odds for young men of color.
I would love this but I'm not too optimistic honestly. We're talking about the same people in 07 who felt it was unwise to support a then Senator Obama for President because "white people will never vote for him". Even had people on this board saying this.
That attitude implies an inability to understand the power we can wield on our own. It's a leap to assume that we'll now have that same contingent donating to a collective for political means.
That "My Brother Keeper Initiative" didn't specifically target black kids, other races benefitted from it too. From the website: We believe that every young person deserves the opportunity to achieve their dreams, regardless of their race, gender, or socioeconomic status.
It’s almost like no one knows what ‘black’ means anymore.
Dont vote yet complain....dont vote yet know how to fix everything..dont vote and convince others to do the same....yet want to shit on those that have voice an opinion....do politician do shit for your neighborhood....fuck probably not....but what did staying home get you...man your vote is not for you but for your future...like the old heads before the fight was not for them but us....
do you know you just lied?
You want me to show you were someone was denied a loan/grant b/c it was given to someone else?
Man stop playing with me.....
me being worried about everyone else is worrying about my people.
Especially when we have Black people losing out on minority contracts to white women (happened to a friend)
If your friend did everything right, he needs to keep grinding. Your friend will get his through diligence.
I didn't have problems getting mine.
So you don't know you just lied?
Similar threads
