Roland Martin fires shots at Tariq, Jason Black and all ‘don’t voters’

what's the plan then voter? stop dodging the plan voters, what plan did you vote on? did it work? no it didn't lol.

Right now, this very instant, if you have a pre-existing medical condition, you can’t be turned down or charged more for insurance and 30 million more poor people have health insurance than before Obama got in office. Voting in the election that just passed saved that because Republicans already announced they were going to repeal it.

That is a tangible thing that the work of voters got for you while you sat at home doing nothing.
 
I'm still trying to understand this plan thing, what plan is one person supposed to have to help the whole country? or are saying, what would we do besides voting is that what your asking? the others are full of deflection so maybe you'll explain this whole plan situation that nobody else can seem to explain either.
Yea my question is if you tell us not to vote what should i do to get some change. And if you say voting doesn't get any changes, everything i just voted 4 passed locally. Weed, the officials i voted 4 got in. So if i didn't vote how can i make shit happen?
 
Dude, my homie who was an ex gang member, murdered people, sold drugs the 9 yards came out of prison and got grant money for a kids center.

Of course we have more roadblocks but what will less voting get us? Don't fall for the banana in the tailpipe. Hotep Jenkins the 3rd spouts all that good shit but granola and musk oil can only take you so far.
 
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Don't deflect ladies what's the plan? all them votes huh, are you equal in they eyes now you can vote. did racism stop when y'all voted yesterday? is justice among people equal in this country? is anything fair in this country and do the votes protect us? where was the vote when trayvon and so many others lost their lives to senseless killings??? how votes does it take to get things right in this country? when do we stop voting and get out our comfort zone and demand shit? fuck y'all and ya votes.



I'll wait




Also, because Dems defeated governors in Wisconsin, Michigan, and other states, the racist voter supression and gerrymandering tactics that racists put in will be overturned.

Laquan Macdonald was shot and killed and the Chicago DA did nothing about it. Instead of staying home posting gifs, they went out and voted.



https://abc7chicago.com/politics/fo...-cook-county-states-attorney-primary/1247992/

They got a new DA and now that cop is convicted.

Now show me something non voting has accomplished.

I’ll wait...
 
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Yea my question is if you tell us not to vote what should i do to get some change. And if you say voting doesn't get any changes, everything i just voted 4 passed locally. Weed, the officials i voted 4 got in. So if i didn't vote how can i make shit happen?
First things first since you seem like a sensible guy. It feelss your directing it at me, again i never told anyone not to vote or have i said it doesn't make a difference.

Now to answer your question History only shows to ways to make a change in my eyes and that's to either Vote or Riot :dunno:

So I agree your vote does make a difference sometimes and i only say sometimes because of course every Bill doesn't pass etc

Do you understand when people are telling folk not to vote why their saying it? Honestly are you trying to understand it or do you know and just don't feel that point of view?
 
I wish a lot of you clowns would stop being disenginous, acting like non voters are your issue when it's non DEMOCRATIC voters.
Yall try to shame 3rd party/independent voters like yall do non voters.

If you vote green or libertarian or even GOPKkk it's not the same as not voting.

If all of you non voters voted 3rd party it would send a signal.

Them the type of ninjas that never go outside but be mad cause he can't meet bitch's. You can't have it both ways.

Dudes will shit on black women and fuck cacs, but wont shit on Democrats and vote independent. It makes no sense whatsoever .
 
Right now, this very instant, if you have a pre-existing medical condition, you can’t be turned down or charged more for insurance and 30 million more poor people have health insurance than before Obama got in office. Voting in the election that just passed saved that because Republicans already announced they were going to repeal it.

That is a tangible thing that the work of voters got for you while you sat at home doing nothing.
Was I at home doing nothing? you seen my car in the driveway when you left? LOL you dudes are funny, dumb but funny.
 
Yea my question is if you tell us not to vote what should i do to get some change. And if you say voting doesn't get any changes, everything i just voted 4 passed locally. Weed, the officials i voted 4 got in. So if i didn't vote how can i make shit happen?
you will not get an answer to that question lol

Bet a stack

I wish a lot of you clowns would stop being disenginous, acting like non voters are your issue when it's non DEMOCRATIC voters.
Yall try to shame 3rd party/independent voters like yall do non voters.
same thing

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First things first since you seem like a sensible guy. It feelss your directing it at me, again i never told anyone not to vote or have i said it doesn't make a difference.

Now to answer your question History only shows to ways to make a change in my eyes and that's to either Vote or Riot :dunno:

So I agree your vote does make a difference sometimes and i only say sometimes because of course every Bill doesn't pass etc

Do you understand when people are telling folk not to vote why their saying it? Honestly are you trying to understand it or do you know and just don't feel that point of view?

Lmao

This fucking duncecap
 
I wish a lot of you clowns would stop being disenginous, acting like non voters are your issue when it's non DEMOCRATIC voters.
Yall try to shame 3rd party/independent voters like yall do non voters.

Nah you don't have to vote democrat but let's ask why wouldn't you vote democrat? If you want to vote 3rd party because its the ideals you believe in then vote for them, I'd never blame 3rd party voters for their vote they participated. I only blame people who benefit from a dem ticket who don't vote at all for not participating in a process , if you're black, that people DIED to give you. The only people I blame for voting for racist or supporting racism is the people who actually do it. No roundabout way's if you vote GOP you support racism if you don't vote GOP you don't support racism. Simple as that.
 
What interviews have y’all watched that gave you the impression that Roland Martin is some sort of intellectual? This niggas was fumbling over his words when that white man was on his show. He was literally stuttering and skipping words
He can’t debate anyone effectively
I've seen enough to know Roland is no light weight. Tariq can hold his own at times but the white dude got the better of him too. I'm unbiased though I have no dog in the fight. But since you asked what interview, here is 1:
 
First things first since you seem like a sensible guy. It feelss your directing it at me, again i never told anyone not to vote or have i said it doesn't make a difference.

Now to answer your question History only shows to ways to make a change in my eyes and that's to either Vote or Riot :dunno:

So I agree your vote does make a difference sometimes and i only say sometimes because of course every Bill doesn't pass etc

Do you understand when people are telling folk not to vote why their saying it? Honestly are you trying to understand it or do you know and just don't feel that point of view?
Lol now that's my issue. The don't vote folks don't give me anything to understand. They just say "don't vote" "your vote doesn't count".
 
Dude, my homie who was an ex gang member, murdered people, sold drugs the 9 yards came out of prison and got grant money for a kids center.

Of course we have more roadblocks but what will less voting get us? Don't fall for the banana in the tailpipe. Hotep Jenkins the 3rd spouts all that good shit but granola and musk oil can only take you so far.

Bruh I'm dead lmao
 
Lol now that's my issue. The don't vote folks don't give me anything to understand. They just say "don't vote" "your vote doesn't count".

You have that crowd and their wrong, their vote does count if they vote. My understanding of Tariq telling people not to vote isn't because your vote won't count but because viable candidates aren't in place to represent the people as a whole especially black people.

So everybody say fuck that we ain't voting we demand real change or demand dependable candidates that will serve the people. He's aligning voting to marching per say as in we've done that before we need to try something else. He's basically saying voting takes too long and we haven't seen enough change from voting and never will. that's how i took it more or less.
 
Also, because Dems defeated governors in Wisconsin, Michigan, and other states, the racist voter supression and gerrymandering tactics that racists put in will be overturned.

Laquan Macdonald was shot and killed and the Chicago DA did nothing about it. Instead of staying home posting gifs, they went out and voted.



https://abc7chicago.com/politics/fo...-cook-county-states-attorney-primary/1247992/

They got a new DA and now that cop is convicted.

Now show me something non voting has accomplished.

I’ll wait...

Still waiting...
 
Ridiculous.
Roland is 100% correct in his statements.
And your train of thought is an example of WHY Black people are not taken seriously at during election time.
Dude I'm not attacking you but, how else do you expect to get things done if your voice is NOT part of the conversation...?
By NOT voting, you've effectively neutered yourself and essentially gave away your opportunity to be counted, to be heard and to take a stand. :smh:
On the flipside; do you know who RELIGIOUSLY goes out to vote in every election to safeguard their own interests and who votes to keep YOU down, out, uneducated and disenfranchised...?
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- They teach their children the value of voting.
- They put candidates on the ballots who support their values.
- They don't listen to people who tell them their votes don't count.
- They believe they're fighting a war for their way of life and vote in candidates who often (secretly) agree with them.
- They get stronger because they know every one of their votes count, they unify behind certain candidates and they go out and VOTE. Meanwhile we get weaker, less ineffective and more divided because too many of our people DON'T.
And while you're busy listening to self serving assholes like Tariq Nasheed, Cynthia G, Jason Black, Boyce Watkins & Umar Johnson tell you not to vote, those White Supremacists motherfuckers NEVER miss an opportunity vote in an election.
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Food for thought....:hmm:
You're an idiot. I've pointed that out many times. You're fear mongering ain't working.
These Cacs you posted vote because they get tangibles out the process.

Go sit your white liberal ass down. You aren't a friend to Black people.
 
Are you saying no black person gets a business grant?
Show me proof of a Jew getting a Jew check for existing.
In CA they are just not helping ICE, not offering immigrants legal protection
Local citizens don’t vote. Racists do vote in local elections. They elect racist local police chiefs that hire racists cops and racist DAs that don’t push for punishment. But it all starts with racists voting to put their people in power.
Show me proof of these earmarks for gays and immigrants

Once again, look at Chicago and Laquan Macdonald. After the shooting, they didn’t sit back and do nothing. They voted out the old governor and the old DA and replaced them with people that understood the demands of the community and they got the cop that shot him convicted.

Once again, please show me the cop that not voting got convicted for killing a black man. I’m waiting.
Am I saying no Black person gets a business grant? No fool. I said that other groups are getting advantages should be available only to us. How the fuck can you not understand that? I’m talking straight up Black prosperity and you niggas are choosing to find the angle that gives you an opening to shit on me. Are you serious?

A few years back Obama gave checks to holocaust survivors. I know 2 people personally who benefitted as their grandparents basically just passed the money on to them.
As for the “proof” you need for the money going to gays and immigrants.....I’m sure you supported Obama. If you supported him for reasons other than being Black then you’d know the answer already

You mention Jason Van Dyke....but what about the Daniel Pantaleo...Darren Wilson....George Zimmerman....the cops who killed Alton Sterling.....yeah

And why do you keep talking about not voting? You literally just apologized to me when I told you that I voted
 
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The fact that Tariq refuses to actually debate Roland Martin in a public forum speaks volumes. He’s willing to clown and roast the “enemy” on his own platform, but he won’t engage them in a debate on a neutral platform? He’ll go to all the trouble of making puppets and doing full-on comedy sketches about so-called butter biscuit chasing coons, but he won’t engage in public discourse?

Tariq is a flashy charlatan and a wolf-ticket selling coward. He’ll milk a good hustle for all it’s worth, but he’ll never put himself in a position where that hustle can be exposed for what it actually is. The same goes for Jason Black.
 
Since 2016 it's pretty well known that a decent amount of Black people are abstaining from voting down the Democrat party line.

Now I'll ask you Democrats one last time (I've asked many times over) . Why do you think they don't have a "Black agenda (the literal reason why we are here) " of any sort?

Let's stop the BS and bring truth to power.
 
You have that crowd and their wrong, their vote does count if they vote. My understanding of Tariq telling people not to vote isn't because your vote won't count but because viable candidates aren't in place to represent the people as a whole especially black people.

So everybody say fuck that we ain't voting we demand real change or demand dependable candidates that will serve the people. He's aligning voting to marching per say as in we've done that before we need to try something else. He's basically saying voting takes too long and we haven't seen enough change from voting and never will. that's how i took it more or less.
And see i can understand someone feeling that way. But i feel i rather vote and have a fuck ass Democrat in than a fuck ass Republican in since we gotta have 1 anyway
 
1st. what's not normal is you stalking a grown man. First show me where I said anything about anybody making any valid points about anything? let's start there first.

2nd. you still didn't listen to the vid and i'm not explaining it to you.

3rd. a normal method of discourse when debating or disagreeing with someone is you have to listen to what they say first so you can understand their point or your just debating yourself which it seems most of you have no problem with.

4. because your small minded and only see your side, you'll refuse to listen to the video because as Roland says "if you didn't vote your dumb" correct? so why ask?

Just know this, you and alot of these cats on the board would make shitty lawyers. Your arguments suck, you don't listen to video evidence, testimonies or written statements but you'll waltz yo ass right in court with a half ass knowledge trying to defend someone.

make that make sense????


Stop being a faggot. Ain't nobody stalking you.

Also stop being an intellectual bitch.

You're dodging questions and ducking answers.

You need to tell people your specificfic points, not some ambiguous bullshit.

Anyway, gone be a bitch ass troll then.

Tried to treat ya like a man, but I guess you choose to be anything other than that.
 
Since 2016 it's pretty well known that a decent amount of Black people are abstaining from voting down the Democrat party line.

Now I'll ask you Democrats one last time (I've asked many times over) . Why do you think they don't have a "Black agenda (the literal reason why we are here) " of any sort?

Let's stop the BS and bring truth to power.
The democrats aren't supposed to have a Black agenda.

You are supposed to have that. You are supposed to form a pac or a lobbying group to tell your elected officials whst you want. You are supposed to have your representatives present bills on your behalf.

And IT WORKS.

I've already posted examples of what BLACK LOBBYING GROUPS have done.

Why don't you cats understand this?
 
First things first since you seem like a sensible guy. It feelss your directing it at me, again i never told anyone not to vote or have i said it doesn't make a difference.

Now to answer your question History only shows to ways to make a change in my eyes and that's to either Vote or Riot :dunno:

So I agree your vote does make a difference sometimes and i only say sometimes because of course every Bill doesn't pass etc

Do you understand when people are telling folk not to vote why their saying it? Honestly are you trying to understand it or do you know and just don't feel that point of view?

So you shouldn't vote for local judges, sheriff's and DA's? They make NO difference?
 
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