0fficial 2017-2018 NBA Postseason Thread....NBA Finals Cavs vs Warriors 0-4(dubs back 2 back champs)

I would say he could be the most athletic player of all time, that is not a skill.

All around is bullshit, Russ and Oscar averaged a triple double for a season, Lebron don't lead in that shit either, never done that shit before. Not great on defense, no go-to moves, poor ft shooter, etc.
All around doesnt just emcompass stats of pass, rebound, score. All around is more than triple double stats son. It also emcompasses skillset and talent and other categories including shooting, efficiency, steals and blocks... Bron is a better defender than both Russ and Oscar, has played and defended all positions and is a better passer and rebounder than Russ and a FAR more efficient and productive player despite his triple double seasons.

LeBron is absolutely the best all around performer the game has seen.
 
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bad decisions are directly correlated to fatigue.

When you are tired you make more mistakes. When you are tired the mind has a hard time focusing on a particular task. When you have a hard time focusing you make more mistakes. In fact more mistakes is a indication of being tired.


Lebron has been in the League 15 years, there is plenty of tape and history of his mental breakdowns, bad decision making, and choking/quiting/running from the big shots in 4th quarter.

He ain't no rookie, look at the tape.
 
All around doesnt just emcompass stats of pass, rebound, score. All around is more than triple double stats son. It also emcompasses skillset and talent and other categories including shooting, efficiency, steals and blocks... Bron is a better defender than both Russ and Oscar, has played and defended all positions and is a better passer and rebounder than Russ and a FAR more efficient and productive player despite his triple double seasons.

LeBron is absolutely the best all around performer the game has seen.

Nope, 60% is hustle and athleticism. He gotta lot of flaws in his all around game.

7 points, 2 rebounds and 2 assists in a 12 minute quarter is not impressive to me for a player that plays damn near the whole game, ball always in his hands, and 6'9. No hand checking, etc...

He is not a top defender at his his own position. He is a great passer and finisher, all that other shit, he ain't that great.
 
Right id put bill Russell who never shot over 50% and never avg over 20......over jordan off of defensive superiority alone.

2nd all time leading rebounder all time by a wide margin. The inspiration for the all defensive team and DPOY award. Averaged 30 boards in the Finals, posted triple doubles in the Finals. 11 chips 2 as player coach, 5x MVP, first black head coach in the NBA. I have Ill Bill ranked #3 behind Wilt and Kareem. Ahead of Bron and MJ.
 
2nd all time leading rebounder all time by a wide margin. The inspiration for the all defensive team and DPOY award. Averaged 30 boards in the Finals, posted triple doubles in the Finals. 11 chips 2 as player coach, 5x MVP, first black head coach in the NBA. I have Ill Bill ranked #3 behind Wilt and Kareem. Ahead of Bron and MJ.

Not playing in a damn 8 or 10 team league, mostly white, no sir. Hell of a winner and hustler, but not the best or most skilled player.
 
Nope, 60% is hustle and athleticism. He gotta lot of flaws in his all around game.

7 points, 2 rebounds and 2 assists in a 12 minute quarter is not impressive to me for a player that plays damn near the whole game, ball always in his hands, and 6'9. No hand checking, etc...

He is not a top defender at his his own position. He is a great passer and finisher, all that other shit, he ain't that great.

A guy who shot the ball more than any player while he played should have a bunch of scoring titles. MJ led the league in attempts 9 times (an NBA record) but never finished top 5 in % ever. Never finished top 5 in assists. Even though he always had the ball in his hands and had usage rates that would make Westbrook blush. When MJ "retired" in 94, all his teammates (Scottie, Horace, BJ) FG%'s went up :smh: He was a weak playmaker. And for the amount of shots he took to be under 50% isnt impressive. His teammate Scottie was better than him at EVERYTHING except scoring.
 
Not playing in a damn 8 or 10 team league, mostly white, no sir. Hell of a winner and hustler, but not the best or most skilled player.

MJ couldnt catch him. Gave up at 6 in '98. :smh:

And he was far more skilled than MJ defensively.
 
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A guy who shot the ball more than any player while he played should have a bunch of scoring titles. MJ led the league in attempts 9 times (an NBA record) but never finished top 5 in % ever. Never finished top 5 in assists. Even though he always had the ball in his hands and had usage rates that would make Westbrook blush. When MJ "retired" in 94, all his teammates (Scottie, Horace, BJ) FG%'s went up :smh: He was a weak playmaker. And for the amount of shots he took to be under 50% isnt impressive. His teammate Scottie was better than him at EVERYTHING except scoring.

Name one guard in NBA history that shot (.497 because of bullshit Wizard years) 50% for their career other than Jordan?
 
Not playing in a damn 8 or 10 team league, mostly white, no sir. Hell of a winner and hustler, but not the best or most skilled player.
Do you realize that if he playing in a mostly white league.....um elgin baylor was to....so was wilt. You act like all his teamates were black. If i play with 9 honkies and you play with 9 honkies and i consistently beat you.....then there is no advantage or disadvantage cuz we both playing with honkies. So stop
 
Do you realize that if he playing in a mostly white league.....um elgin baylor was to....so was wilt. You act like all his teamates were black. If i play with 9 honkies and you play with 9 honkies and i consistently beat you.....then there is no advantage or disadvantage cuz we both playing with honkies. So stop

Um, none of them are in my top 3
 
All that and yet he still remains top 3 all time even in your eyes.. Pretty impressive.

Top 4, no doubt. Hell of an athlete, imagine if he was more skilled, never quitted, played better defense, and more aggressive? Probably would have already had 6 Finals MVPs and 10 scoring titles by now, might do it by 45 though.
 
What y'all think?
I think Boston gonna win which gonna stop Bron from reaching the finals. They was the last team to accomplish this
 
Damn y'all still on this MJ shit? Enjoy the game. Acting like it's a wake or something.
Thought tipoff was 9pm..
Top 4, no doubt. Hell of an athlete, imagine if he was more skilled, never quitted, played better defense, and more aggressive? Probably would have already had 6 Finals MVPs and 10 scoring titles by now, might do it by 45 though.
Top 4 now? We keep talking you liable to convince yourself hes barely top 8. :lol:
 
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