It's a trick that a lot of black folk are still not hip to. I've seen countless people loos arguments, points, etc...by a simple switch. It's like you fell for that shit (and I am not just talking about race issues)?
Live Debate: Tariq Nasheed vs Jared Taylor
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Problem is again you speaking on emotion. You basing this on the the fact that WS is wrong, which it is, and because of this Tariq automatically won. Since when is WS based on facts. A debate is not about who point is wrong or right, since everybody has a different take on whats wrong or right, it's about who was better at speaking on their point of view.
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"You two?" You're correct in saying that within a western style debate, the objective isn't to spew facts, but to 'prove' an argument. Even though Tariq didn't follow the standard format of presenting an argument in a western style debate, He did prove his position. Because even though whites are 8% of the population, they control at least 60% of the worlds resources. Now, what the white boys wanted to prove was that 'there is no such thing as white supremacy' which they didn't. They formed the contradiction to the premise by circular reasoning (a logical fallacy) But did not disprove the argument. Say, prove that although whites are 8% of the population, they 'do not' control directly, or indirectly the distribution of resources. So Tariq won the argument. Understand this, 'YOU' don't understand how to debate white supremacy, because if you entered such on the grounds to not account for an obvious fact (that whites rule even in small numbers) you would be committing the logical fallacy of exclusion of facts, thus your argument couldn't sustain it's conclusion. That whites 'aren't ' in a superior position on any account. And that's what makes the coon. A Black person that posits an argument, doesn't engage in critical analysis of that argument, then spews it out against a fellow Black person who practiced the courage to face white supremacy, just for an innate desire to feel validated by vacuous opinion. Which is thinking like a white person.
Emotions are a bitch arent they. You mad and upset, and I'm just here typing.
Umar you are under the rule of white supremacy whether you like it or not...
White folks know there is systematic white supremacy, they just don't want to admit it since that will prove blacks are not inferior. Even Tariq has admitted this when he constantly tells his listeners to stop debating with white folks on this subject. He says they are on code and will never admit WS. Yet Tariq goes on air and debates a WS. Just go to any WS youtube page showing this video and see how energized Tariq got them. You only saying Tariq won, because Tariq is on our side in this argument. I'm saying Tariq loss because he did a horrible job arguing for us in this debate.
Thought you were done with me. Got your emotions all riled up Tariq.
No, I'm saying Tariq proved his argument, and they couldn't disprove it. And I am saying so because unlike you, I have shut up on air white personalities when they are out spewing that nonsense about Black people. Even had to quit a job because of it. And such things need to be done by Black people, at great risk, to try and show other Black people the word games they play, and how to recognize such ill behavior exhibited by whites, towards Black people on a daily basis. But most of you Negroes, just don't get it. Many of ya'll still got that 'Black Panther' way of confronting whitey in your minds, yet don't realize the gravity of what that philosophy led to. Black people talkin, but not acting. Maybe if you wipe the love of white people off your mind, you too can begin to move in such a way that will detach you personal from the psychology of white supremacy, and count your self numbered in the fight.
How are you turning this topic into loving whitey. Logic is not your strong point I can tell, and a man speaking with emotions. Nobody in here saying the white guy is correct or right. We are all saying Tariq got his ass whooped with the skills of debate. White man tricked Tariq to say things that white folks already believe. Tariq, off code, even said black people are weak. Why do you admit or say that to a man who believes you are inferior. Isn't being inferior theoretically means you are the weaker opponent. And you speak on black people just talking and not acting. So what is Tariq doing except making money from this topic. Tariq always telling black people they need to put hands on white supremacist if they disrespect us, or we need to be prepared for a violent race war, but we know damn well Tariq ain't about that life himself. Never seen Tariq get arrested for being on the front lines. He just sits back in the hills surrounded by white folks in his gated community telling us to prepare for war
Oh and let's not forget the REAL kicker
Tariq sits up talking about white supremacy, getting paid to "break it down", making these movies about past glory , and INSINUATING that there's some plan, or either NO AVAILABLE PLAN to achieve this "justice". Meanwhile, mind you ALL of his "action" is online and in studio.
So for Black guys out there who have it hard for real, and are listening to Tariq telling them the walls are closing in on them--- what are they to do? This is why when that guy in Dallas shit the cop and they started looking at Tariq, ALL OF A SUDDEN, he starts referring to the Constitution as if it can protect him- yet here he is talking to this CAC and saying the Constitution doesn't protect Black people. He did everything he could go separate himself from that. He talks code and all this other bullshit that can get the less informed seriously hurt. Listening to him they would think he's making a call to action. Meanwhile he sits in his million dollar home with his half white family lol.
Just like I said... Negroes just don't understand. Arguing from emotion? Appears to be a lot of jealousy in this reply contrary to reason. For, I guarantee the individual who posted this has never once in his life complained to the people of whatever brand of toothpaste he uses, that they are beating him on his toothpaste with the small pocket of air at the top. Never complained to them that their whole intent is to make money off that small pocket of air. Even though..... It does have a measure of monetary gain for the toothpaste maker. An individual such as this is never able to complain about the quality of product, or the service surrounding the product when it comes to Tariq. But they for damn sure can complain that he produced products, and makes money off of them. And guaranteed, hasn't bought any of them legitimately. But they still use the same toothpaste. Mmmmm.... Smells like jealousy. Which is a characteristic of white supremacy because it is they who taught people to think with their emotions. That's how you're loving whitey, and don't even recognize it. Well...I guess I just engaged in the disproof of the weak logic argument.
Truth..but his loyal fans will swear he's changing the state of black America by selling $30 documentaries built on the knowledge of true scholarly experts...I'm not even hating because I've purchased HC 1-3 and donated to the crowd funding but after awhile, it's the same ol shit with this dude...rile black people up, talk down on us through broad generalizations, make some new documentary that's going to talk about racism in a different context than the last 4 or 5 times, take donations, go on vacation, put documentary out 6 months later....wash, rinse, repeat
What did they trick Tariq into saying that they already believe? And is it true what they got Tariq to say since you say he was tricked...Listen to your foolish self..Did they trick Tariq into saying the truth? So you also saying Tariq should be downtown LA getting arrested for something? In war we all have different assignments or should we all be doing the same thing?Should a 5 star general be on the front lines with the marines?You coming from a emotional and hurt place...I don't know what Tariq has done to you..Are you mad he has a house in the hills?Tell us where he should live then brother...Explain to us what that man should be doing?Are you going to show us how to properly debate a WS?I want to hear some of your solutions brother.
Also why are you angry that Tariq told them we are dominated by white supremacy? You must wake up and realize you are under 100% leadership of white supremist..They have more power than you...You are sending rockets into outer space or crafts to the depths of our oceans..This is there world get over it..They are entitled to shit we arent at this current time..You go to scool to get there degrees and join there military to fight the war they choose..Your whole reality is from the perspective of a white supremacist...You mad?So it true...Now Grand verbalizer if you are such a bad ass get out your emotions and build a new reality for your people and stop hating on Tariq...
nothing to really understand he is just a dude who is more about fame and fortune than he is about
anything else... I aint mad at him.. he just couldve really slayed that smug washed up nazi and he let him off the hook..
Ouch! Lol!
Nobody in here is “hating” on Tariq. We’re simply pointing out what has been PAINFULLY obvious for some time. This so-called “debate” is nothing more than a temporary amusement. Its lowbrow entertainment on par with any of the reality shows you’ll find on VH1. It also perfectly sums up Tariq’s TRUE value. He isn’t a real intellectual, scholar, or debater. He couldn’t lead running water down a freshly plunged drain. He’s a hustler who provides a certain measure of entertainment value. Whenever he’s given a chance to truly confront the enemy in a public forum, he embarrasses himself. Whenever he can’t resort to his usual bullying tactics and clowning, he folds. Afterwards, he runs back to his sycophants so they can help him lick his wounds.
@THE GRANDJURY has been on point with his assessments.
@THE GRANDJURY has been on point with his assessments.
Anytime a
How is he about fame and fortune?Me personally I look at the message of the person..It it positive and uplifting?With Tariq most of the time it is...Even if I heard it all before there'should always a brother or sister who hasn't..Black people really are ungrateful and whatever you do no matter how positive it'seems never enough..Its' like we look for people to walk us through every stage in life and if they don't they ain't shit...Tariq in prison just like the rest of us..He do his studies package them up so his listeners can understand it and he sell them..I see no issue rather he sell hidden colors than 90% of the rap we hear that' being sold...Put today rap and hidden colors or a scale which is more uplifting...At the end of the day we all have to find our own way..Yes we have those that come and spark our brains but it's not up to them to save us..We must save ourselves..
This post is hilarious...nigga compared Tariq Nasheed to a 5 star general
Using your horribly shitty comparison, a 5 star general had to come up through the ranks to attain that status, at one point in time he/she was a soldier to a degree, they couldn't just make documentary about warfare, call themselves a general and start giving orders without being accountable to the group...
If anyone is going to be engaging in debates, i recommend a person study Neil Strauss, the pickup artist, to learn to control and direct conversation and Socrates to question their debate logically until it has nothing to stand on. Socrates never argued, he just asked questions until your stance fell apart and you have no choice but to wave the white flag. I've beaten people in debates about racial profiling and loaded stats. Of course if your profiling is based off of biased stats, and people are being stopped not because of wrongdoing, but because of the number, the stats can never represent the true numbers. Garbage in, garbage out. Bad stats continue to be bad stats because they're being enabled.
I got no problem at all with tariq I respect his hustle and find him entertaining...
but then again I dont need a leader to lead me anywhere..
Just giving a analogy of course that' all you got out of thatThis post is hilarious...nigga compared Tariq Nasheed to a 5 star general
Using your horribly shitty comparison, a 5 star general had to come up through the ranks to attain that status, at one point in time he/she was a soldier to a degree, they couldn't just make documentary about warfare, call themselves a general and start giving orders without being accountable to the group...
Lol I'm not kidding
Watch him AND Boyce during that time. First he justifies what Micah Johnson did (MAXIMUM EMERGENCY COMPENSATORY ACTION) , but then when the FBI comes to him, ACCORDING TO HIM, he wants to say he ain't got nothin got do with it. Even though the guy had been a follower of his to some degree. Micah is dead. Tariq is here talking about the Constitution.
Notice, after that Bouce started backing off that kinda talk. I guarantee you if shit went down , this guy would be no where around. He reminds me of General Ojukwu who started the biafran revolution but went his ass into exile , with Mercedes in tow , and didn't come back to Nigeria til the 90s.
Again another emotional response. Never once did I say Tariq is wrong for making money. I said all he is doing is sitting back and making money, while telling his followers to take actions, he is not willing to take. Again shake off those emotions and listen
BTW, I bought Hidden Colors 1,2, and 3. So come again with that weak jealously bs
But that's where the anger come from...When another black person is respected or is highly reguarded we get mad snd why they like that nigga so much..Not saying you but far to many suffer from this even unknowingly...If people don't rock with him cool..I like and respect Umar..I try to look at the good and see if it has positive change on people's live
And I'm pretty sure Tariq is a millionaire by now off those movies alone, and yet when each is made he still asking followers for money to make them. I understood asking for money in the beginning, but you established now. Make that shit yourself. It's not like he's sharing the profits or opening back businesses that employs a ton of black people.
You not even making sense, bounce out until you get your emotions in check. Then you can come back to talk.
You sure it wasn't new york?
You stay back peddling. I guess it's a byproduct of dealing in misinformation.
I agree 100%.
You sure it wasn't new york?
You stay back peddling. I guess it's a byproduct of dealing in misinformation.
He's been doing that throughout this whole thread.
Misinformation? You? A Tariq Nasheed follower talking about misinformation? Btw both of what I posted are relevant.You sure it wasn't new york?
You stay back peddling. I guess it's a byproduct of dealing in misinformation.
One is Tariq quoting your other hero Neely Fuller, saying that the Dallas cop shooter is compensatory action, because the guy couldn't see any other way to get justice. Even though HE would never get into conflict with anyone EXCEPT another Black man, as we've seen time and time again.
The second one is after baton rouge , him doing as much as he can to disconnect from inciting any of it, and a whole rant on the Constitution. And him claiming the FBI came to visit him, but I guess he couldn't video any of it.
So what he does , is tell all y'all about white supremacy and how SOMETHING must be done about it, even bringing up compensatory whatever the fuck, but when he's actually talking to a KNOWN white supremacist and they ask what he thinks can be done--crickets. OR when someone who listens to him decides to pull off a compensatory action, he disassociated with it.
All he can keep telling them is they are smarter than Black people and we can't do anything about their mastery of the world.
And how they COULD shut him down anytkme they want, but funny.. they just haven't. That's a head scratcher for sure, since he fancies himself to be such a problem for them.
He does it in EVERY thread.
You're still trying to tell me who my heroes are? Your dumbass didn't learn when you were wrong about umar?
Lol you can thank me for telling you about Umar long before your hero Taroq did. And yep, it's on record that I've been on every thread saying this and look how many people catch what I'm saying now. You're welcome.
Help me out here sir. What misinformation have i laid out in this thread?
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