that shit was written in the White House by someone that only watches Fox News and Breitbart...
they wrote a memo full of shit that got pulled apart by the Times Post WSJ Newsweek etc during last spring and summer
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they wrote a memo full of shit that got pulled apart by the Times Post WSJ Newsweek etc during last spring and summer
Not just caping. HE WAS ON THE TRUMP TRANSITION TEAM!
I don't understand why this isn't always mentioned when Nunes is mentioned.
That means Nunes is also likely being investigated.
Yeah to be real I don’t see what any of this has to do with the mueller investigation. Unless you say that mueller was listed on this... it means nothing. I don’t care what the DNC did. Politics is just corrupt... but having a foreign power influence an election is an entirely different thing.
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Problem is this so-called Christopher Steele "Dossier" which wouldn't pass the smell test in Intelligence Services of Burundi or Burkina Faso, yet it was accepted no problem as a viable "intelligence" in the US.
One has to really scratch the head here.
It just defies imagination.
DOJ and FBI warned the White House multiple times that the memo would be a national security risk and might impede on going investigations including Mueller's
Wray sent Nunes a letter saying the same things and cc White House
Rosenstein & Wray sat down with Kelly in person as a proxy for Trump and warned again with same language...
To each of these warnings White House officials under orders from Trump reached out to berate DoJ and FBI officials via letters and phone calls...
While Mueller is currently focused on obstruction and establishing intent...
The first FISA warrant was obtained on 23rd October 2016 based on a story written by Michael Isikoff for yahoo news here below is the article:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-s-inte...ween-trump-adviser-and-kremlin-175046002.html
Based on information he received directly from Christopher Steele.......
The FBI did not disclose in the FISA application that Chris Steele, the discredited ex British Spy was the original source of the information
it did pass the smell test of at least 3 intel groups with better resources than you posted...
Its Trumps fault for blurring the lines with money laundering and his properties... it gives automatic plausibility
Here are the accusations:
1) Trump had cooperated with Russian authorities for years.
A core claim of the dossier is that Russia “had been feeding Trump and his team valuable intelligence on his opponents,” including Clinton, for “several years” before 2016, and that in exchange, Trump’s team fed the Kremlin intelligence on Russian oligarchs and their families “for at least eight years.”
The premise of this theory, that many Russian nationals have bought Trump-branded properties and thus he might be in a position to offer useful information to Russian authorities, is clearly correct, but nothing like it has been shown to be true.
2) Trump is vulnerable to Russian blackmail on sexual matters.
The dossier states that during a trip to the Moscow Ritz-Carlton, Trump hired prostitutes to “perform a ‘golden showers’ (urination) show in front of him”, “defiling” the presidential suite bed in which the Obamas had previously slept, with the implication being that Russian intelligence taped this and that it was one of several forms of “kompromat” the Russians have on Trump.
Nothing like this has been proven.
3) There was a “well-developed conspiracy of cooperation” between Trump and Russia.
Steele describes a Trump-Russia “conspiracy,” managed by Paul Manafort, with Carter Page serving as intermediary until Manafort’s firing in August 2016, after which point Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen played an increasingly large role in managing the “Kremlin relationship.”
This is broadly similar to some things that have been demonstrated later, but totally different in the details.
4) Trump’s team knew and approved of Russian plans to deliver emails to WikiLeaks, and offered them policy concessions in exchange.
The dossier claims that Trump and his campaign team had “full knowledge and support” of Russia’s leak of the DNC emails to WikiLeaks, and that in return, Trump’s team “had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue.”
This is obviously a subject of ongoing investigation, but none of the conversations about Russian dirt on Clinton that have come to light so far demonstrate what the dossier claims.
5) Carter Page played a key role in the conspiracy.
The dossier says that according to an “ethnic Russian associate” of Trump’s, Carter Page had “conceived and promoted” the idea that the DNC emails to WikiLeaks should be leaked during the Democratic convention, “to swing supporters of Bernie Sanders away from Hilary Clinton and across from Trump.”
It also says Page met senior Russian official Igor Diveykin to talk kompromat on Clinton, and met with Igor Sechin to discussion financial payoffs to Page and others via the privatization of the Russian company Rosneft.
Page has denied under oath having met either Diveykin or Sechin, and there’s no indication he had anything to do with the timing of the WikiLeaks release.
6) Michael Cohen played a key role in the conspiracy.
The dossier says that after Paul Manafort was fired, Cohen traveled to a European Union country (later reports claim it was the Czech Republic) in late August or early September to meet with Russian officials, and that the meeting took place under the cover of a Russian NGO, Rossotrudnichestvo.
One topic of this meeting was “coverup and damage limitation” around Manafort’s Ukrainian work and efforts to “prevent the full details of Trump’s relationship with Russia being exposed.” According to the dossier, after August, Cohen continued to manage Trump’s relations with Russia, but after this point, contacts were made to Russia’s “trusted agents of influence” instead of officials.
Cohen also supposedly discussed how to make “deniable cash payments” to hackers working under Kremlin direction, and how to cover up those operations.
Cohen’s purported proof that he’s never been to Prague — showing a passport that lacks a Czech Republic stamp — is unconvincing because he could have traveled to Prague via another Schengen area country and might have multiple passports. But none of this has been proven.
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Why does a discredited former MI-6 officer reach out on his own to the FBI when the normal point of contact would be the CIA??????
I'm asking again, what is made up in this case ? What did they make up about Trump, Page, Manafort, Papadopolus, Trump Jr, Kushner, etc?
The government having the ability to invent a reason to spy is worse than living in an authoritarian regime. MLK was accused of having ties to Communists which led nowhere, however the dirt dug up was used to blackmail.
gtfoh
how is reporting on the investigation = causing FISA request?
Page had been on the radar of the FBI at least as far back as 2013, when a bureau wiretap caught suspected Russians spies discussing their attempts to recruit him. Even after being interviewed by the investigators in that case, Page continued to have extensive contacts with Russians, including trips to Moscow in July and December 2016.
Russian Spies Tried to Recruit Carter Page Before He Advised Trump
By ADAM GOLDMANAPRIL 4, 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/us/politics/carter-page-trump-russia.html
your entire question is a lie...
did you actually read anything about the Steele Dossier not posted on Stormfront?
fyi - its illegal for the CIA to operate domestically... all domestic counterintel is conducted by the FBI
The document starts with a cover letter from Trump’s official lawyer.
MEANING:
1. special group of Congressmen who oversee US secret things saw the memo
2. The memo was so bad they decided every American should read it.
3. The rules state that for the Americans to read it, President has to make it not a secret anymore.
MEANING:
1. Supreme Court agrees that President controls the secrets at this level.
2. Congressmen were allowed to see it........and possibly to "keep an eye on things"
3. Ohhh these Congressmen are supposed to be trustworthy and responsible
MEANING:
1. These Congressmen could not believe what they read in the memo.
2. But rules state that they can’t just make it public to the Americans on their own.
3. President has to say it’s not secret anymore.
MEANING:
1. DJT looked at the memo
2. DJT's attorneys and staff looked into the memo
3. They all agree that its too bad and Americans need to see it
MEANING:
1. Trump decides everyone has to see it
2. Trump's attorney's message to congressmen: We ain't done yet we're still working at it.
NOW THE MEMO ITSELF:
MEANING:
1. Memo is from the workers of those special Congressmen mentioned earlier...........to their bosses.
2. Its about how the FBI broke the US laws about using secret courts to spy on Americans
MEANING
1. Prior to the election, FBI asked secret courts to let them spy on a DJT advisor.
2. Those secret courts agreed simply because the AG, his deputies as well as the FBI boss and his top deputies were asking!!!
MEANING
1. Those secret courts only let the FBI spy on Americans for 3 months at a time.
2. Then the FBI and the AG have to ask all over again with new information.
3. The FBI and the AG kept saying they had "new information"
MEANING:
1. Anything the FBI shows the secret courts is also deemed a secret!
2. This means that they can lie & get away with it because no one else sees it...
3. The memo says that the FBI lied............ with fake secrets & hid the real truth.
MEANING:
1. The FBI didn’t tell the secret court that Hillary paid to have those lies made up by the ex British Spy.
2. The FBI didn’t tell the secret court that the Dems among other things were laundering the payments.
3. The FBI didn’t tell or forgot(?) to tell the secret court that it was a smear job on DJT
MEANING:
1. The FBI Director knew the secret lies weren’t real & used them anyway regardless.
2. The AG knew the secret lies weren’t real & used them anyway
3. The FBI Director & the AG hid the money laundering from the court.
MEANING:
1. FBI knew the lies were paid for by money laundering.
2. FBI didn’t tell the secret court that Hillary and the Dems were behind it.
3. FBI didn’t tell the secret court that the FBI was also paying for it!!!!
MEANING:
1. The FBI asked the secret court to let them spy because of a news article..........!!!.
2. The FBI didn’t tell the court that they planted that news article....................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3. Hillary’s lawyer & consultants held meetings to make it happen.......!!!!!!!
MEANING:
1. FBI fired the man making up the lies (Ex British Spy)but that didn’t stop it
2. The man making up the lies.........was lying to the FBI about himself, too!!!!
3. FBI knew he was a liar before they ever went to the secret courts.....
MEANING:
1. The FBI had meetings with the ex British spy before and after he was fired.
2. Senior executives at the FBI constantly talked with him about how they hated Trump
3. The FBI hid these conspiracy meetings from the secret courts.......
MEANING:
1. The wife of a senior FBI executive worked for the money laundering schemers.
2. She collected lies/info paid for by Hillary and the Dem and gave them to her husband.
3. Then he gave them to the secret court and swore that the lies were true!
MEANING:
1. The FBI knew the lies/fake intel were bought and paid for from the beginning.
2. The FBI director knew they were lies & accused Pres trump anyway.
3. The special Congressmen heard how they fooled the secret courts.
MEANING:
1. The FBI agent investigating Hillary’s "crimes" was having sex with an FBI Attorney.
2. The FBI agents were exposed for leaking lies to the media to destroy Trump.
3. Senior executives at the FBI met with them to discuss how to destroy Trump.
Now its easy to see why the FBI and DOJ leadership opposed the release of this memo. It includes names of individuals alleged to have engaged in corrupt and potentially illegal activities.
Those individuals have a legal presumption of innocence, but the publication of their names may dissuade non-corrupt individuals from working for the FBI and DOJ, either because they conclude the organizations are corrupt or because they fear politically motivated accusations of corruption.
Alot of work to make a bunch of bullshit look credible. ..
Hoover would've had a field day wit this ninja
Discredited?
The alphabet boys aren't in the practice of taking intel from discredited "five eyes" intelligence agents. Tighten up boro.
Ive read a lot of sealed government investigative reports when I use to handle fed cases and this memo appears to be written by a College Senior. To be on the real it honestly isn’t saying anything that we already don’t know.
I’ve got way more concerns with higher ups in the presidents team meeting with Russians spies and the President ordering Comey to stop his investigation and then firing him later.
Even if this Carter Paige thing was the nuke.. There are multiple investigations going on with the President and his staff... one thing is never going to be grounds to shut down an entire organization.
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Google "Kash Patel". When people call this "stupid watergate", they are 100% accurate.
How is this Nunes cat still walking around without an indictment served to him yet?
Same Reason Trump isn't. They white
Discredited?
The alphabet boys aren't in the practice of taking intel from discredited "five eyes" intelligence agents. Tighten up boro.
Why does a former MI-6 officer reach out on his own to the FBI when the normal point of contact would be the CIA?
Lmbaooo
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I believe we're in a Constitutional crisis right now, but no one wants to admit it...
We are in a constitutional crisis because of what Obama and the Democrats did to our FBI, State and Justice Dept. Those WH moles and leakers? Obama and Democrat holdovers, too.
Thank god for Trump or else the democrat-instilled corruption would never have been exposed or even if exposed, would be too big to fight off. I’m not even sure Trump alone will be able to. That’s how entrenched the corruption is with eight years of Clinton and eight years of Obama
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...re-release-memo-must-not-4.html#ixzz562EkR0Bt
sd-bound
706 posts, read 201,558 times
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I believe we're in a Constitutional crisis right now, but no one wants to admit it...
We are in a constitutional crisis because of what Obama and the Democrats did to our FBI, State and Justice Dept. Those WH moles and leakers? Obama and Democrat holdovers, too.
Thank god for Trump or else the democrat-instilled corruption would never have been exposed or even if exposed, would be too big to fight off. I’m not even sure Trump alone will be able to. That’s how entrenched the corruption is with eight years of Clinton and eight years of Obama
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...re-release-memo-must-not-4.html#ixzz562EkR0Bt
You piece of shit
I’m not an expert but maybe because he felt like it’s a domestic issue and the FBI was the better agency to handle this situation vs the cia. Why wouldn’t he go to the FBI?
Normal contact? Why would this matter? This isn’t a movie. Sounds like he was so surprised he tried to follow proper procedures and go to the FBI vs some old contact that may or may not still be at the agency.
Finally. When the facts are against you and the law. Throw shit on the wall and on yourself and claim the whole situation stinks. This is your argument.
Trump is finished he’s a caged cornered animal at this point..
That faggit Nunes going to jail
ignore him
the FBI is the legal contact for domestic counter intel
It is illegal for the CIA to operate domestically
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Blame Obama for Trump money laundering and leave out the facts all these people are republikkkan and a lot worked for Bush Jr.
Ya'll fucking suck at logic.
Ya'll fucking suck at logic.
who is blaming Obama for laundering?
You're gnawing on this bone like there's something meaningful there. Vicious already explained this clearly. He took his findings to the appropriate branch of intelligence. He also passed this info along to British intelligence as well.
He was contracted to do oppo research first by republicans and later by the dems and the findings were so extraordinary that Fusion GPS continued funding his research even after the dems stopped paying. Being this dismissive about the contents of that dossier and it's messenger (even as some of the content has already been corroborated by our own intel agencies) strikes me as purposely obtuse and really, really dumb.
Like I said. Tighten up.
Gop and Hannity types.
Those people are just awful.
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