Dr. Umar Johnson Vs. the State of PA Board of Psychology

[4 Dimensional]

Doesn't the school boards still preside over things like selection rules ? I ask because in Chicago the charter schools are very selective and the kids not selected are in the unresourced public schools

Which goes back to black folks being more involved with local politics including school boards..

Yes, but here it doesn't matter how your public school is doing. You can go to whatever charter school that will let you in. My colleague has his daughter in a charter school in another city.

Are you telling me these charters school don't select who gets enrolled into their school? Is it first come, first served? I mean they have to have a process being that they are limited in the number of students they can accept.
It doesn't matter what their economic circumstances are. What matters is if the students show a greater ability to learn and pass the test/graduate. If the parents will be involved or not.
Charter school are charted by the state and have to show a reason for them to exist. If they are not showing improvements from the local district schools. then they will eventually be closed.
o it is in their best interest to look as good as possible for the state and for parents to want to send their kids to that school vs the local school district.
Btw I don't know how it is in your areas but I'm sure the charters school receive most of their funding from the local school district.

One of the main reasons they would be selective would be capacity and stuffing as well. Schools are not going to let more students in than what the staff can handle. So once a school become popular enough, they either grow in size or become more selective based on student potential or testing.

Funding for charter schools can come from various areas. There is state funding, grants, contributions, and donations.

So in a sense, Umar is up against the same hills as charters. He can go the private route, but that make funding more difficult since private institutions usually work with government loans for students. Plus you're under the radar more as a private institution.

 

[respiration]

i agree
its enticing and cats turn into bootstraps individuals when the roac to success is lined with traps
to be black and successful in this country is a miracle considering everything that is put against us and how 1 mistake fucks your entire life up
and it lends to the other side of the coin of how much of a failure you have to be in order to be poor and white in this same country.

Well said!

 

[mangobob79]

YouTube is a deceiver. Most of the folks putting in real work do not have the time to be doing YouTube podcasts every other day. They are unsung. But they are out there making an impact upon our communities. We have TONS of Black scholars - many of whom are not trying to separate you from your money with no results produced from your investment.

Umar has a message to deliver - a good one, but he is not the only one saying the things that he's saying. And he's not the originator of many of those things, merely a current and very effective messenger.

When people question the specifics of this proposed school, when they ask where specifically the money is going, what his experience is in school building, what universities did he earn his degrees in, these are vital questions. When they ask why do the money amounts and the target goal change, when they ask for itemized estimates - the answers to these questions are literally the crossroads between competency and incompetency - between legitimacy and fraud.

We do not need a single centralized leader of all Black folks. That's impossible and it's something we never had. We DO need to coalesce, network, plan and then do the work. You can kill a man but you can't kill a movement.

this ^^ he in a lot of ways set himself up for the bullshit by his missteps that were very avoidable , some even amateurish in nature becos he should've been knowledgeable enuff about the devils he is going against and dealing with

 

[ballscout1]

Yes, but here it doesn't matter how your public school is doing. You can go to whatever charter school that will let you in. My colleague has his daughter in a charter school in another city.
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That's the question though..

So in the case of Urban Prep they are only letting in the best and the brightest, the rest have to go to public schools.

And when you talking about kids in need then going to school in another suburb or area is very difficult because how would they get there?

Its kind of the same argument when it comes to vouchers......those that aren't in need can go to the better schools that and those in need are still stuck with whats close to their areas.

I know you watched Hoop Dreams and if you remember it took dude like 3 hours each way to get from the westside to St Joes in Westchester.

So at the end of the day unless the schools are fixed using charter schools or vouchers you will still have the ones who need it most left out.

And the problem is the teachers unions that don't allow correction and that is what makes charters work because they aren't under the control of the public school unions

 

[exiledking]

Usually I ignore you because you're a supercoon like ballscout but Jesus white Christ use common sense with your dumbass

Actually after reading all the dumb shit you've been saying in here I realized I.shoulda been.ignorjng you. You're amar Johnsom follower even after all this. That's the definition of stupid.

 

[BKF]

That's the question though..

So in the case of Urban Prep they are only letting in the best and the brightest, the rest have to go to public schools.

And when you talking about kids in need then going to school in another suburb or area is very difficult because how would they get there?

Its kind of the same argument when it comes to vouchers......those that aren't in need can go to the better schools that and those in need are still stuck with whats close to their areas.

I know you watched Hoop Dreams and if you remember it took dude like 3 hours each way to get from the westside to St Joes in Westchester.

So at the end of the day unless the schools are fixed using charter schools or vouchers you will still have the ones who need it most left out.

And the problem is the teachers unions that don't allow correction and that is what makes charters work because they aren't under the control of the public school unions

Then you have the big experiment know as New Orleans. It's proving that charter schools are not the answer that people thought it was (especially with all that "Waiting for Superman" propaganda). Btw there are some/a few charters school with teachers who belong to a union.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...-exposed-at-naacp_us_58ff4297e4b0c13feaa5c810

"In summary, the NAACP heard that they charter system remains highly segregated by race and economic status. Students have significantly longer commutes to and from school. The percentage of African American teachers has declined dramatically leaving less experienced teachers who are less likely to be accredited and less likely to remain in the system. The costs of administration have gone up while resources for teaching have declined. Several special select schools have their own admission process which results in racially and economically different student bodies. The top administrator of one K-12 system of three schools is paid over a quarter of a million dollars. Students with disabilities have been ill served. Fraud and mismanagement, which certainly predated the conversion to charter schools, continue to occur. Thousands of students are in below average schools. Students and parents feel disempowered and ignored by the system."

 

[4 Dimensional]

That's the question though..

So in the case of Urban Prep they are only letting in the best and the brightest, the rest have to go to public schools.

And when you talking about kids in need then going to school in another suburb or area is very difficult because how would they get there?

Its kind of the same argument when it comes to vouchers......those that aren't in need can go to the better schools that and those in need are still stuck with whats close to their areas.

I know you watched Hoop Dreams and if you remember it took dude like 3 hours each way to get from the westside to St Joes in Westchester.

So at the end of the day unless the schools are fixed using charter schools or vouchers you will still have the ones who need it most left out.

And the problem is the teachers unions that don't allow correction and that is what makes charters work because they aren't under the control of the public school unions

Our charter schools have buses for the kids. The school my daughter was going to go to did bus pickup at 6 in the morning and I wasn't about to send my then 5 year old on no bus that early for that long of a ride, so she ended up going to a public school. At the same time, Greensboro, NC is nowhere the size of Chicago, so that's a totally different animal y'all.

So when starting a school here, we have things on our side.

North Carolina does not have a teachers union, hence why my state is one of the lowest when it comes to teachers getting paid. It's so bad, that Houston's public school systems had a program where they were basically recruiting our teachers for better pay. I've had several friends jump ship to Houston.

So the reality is that some kids will get left out that probably need it the most.

 

[4 Dimensional]

Then you have the big experiment know as New Orleans. It's proving that charter schools are not the answer that people thought it was (especially with all that "Waiting for Superman propaganda). Btw there are some/a few charters school with teachers who belong to a union.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...-exposed-at-naacp_us_58ff4297e4b0c13feaa5c810

"In summary, the NAACP heard that they charter system remains highly segregated by race and economic status. Students have significantly longer commutes to and from school. The percentage of African American teachers has declined dramatically leaving less experienced teachers who are less likely to be accredited and less likely to remain in the system. The costs of administration have gone up while resources for teaching have declined. Several special select schools have their own admission process which results in racially and economically different student bodies. The top administrator of one K-12 system of three schools is paid over a quarter of a million dollars. Students with disabilities have been ill served. Fraud and mismanagement, which certainly predated the conversion to charter schools, continue to occur. Thousands of students are in below average schools. Students and parents feel disempowered and ignored by the system."

And then you have that part. Charter school are definitely not the answer. In all honesty, charter schools is more for white folks getting away from us. That's when the selection process takes over because the ones on the board likely have kids that enrolled in the school. They can be selective on which black person they let in school.

So then is comes back to public schools, but now since Charter schools are popping up everywhere, a lot of funds are not going to the public schools they way they should.

Now religious institutions are cashing in on the Charter game.

 

[Mr. Met]

Based on this post, he ain’t leaving for Africa anytime soon.

 

[BKF]

And then you have that part. Charter school are definitely not the answer. In all honesty, charter schools is more for white folks getting away from us. That's when the selection process takes over because the ones on the board likely have kids that enrolled in the school. They can be selective on which black person they let in school.

So then is comes back to public schools, but now since Charter schools are popping up everywhere, a lot of funds are not going to the public schools they way they should.

Now religious institutions are cashing in on the Charter game.

The problem is too many parents are looking for the magic learning potion. If you have kids you have to look for every advantage there is to put them in a good position to succeed regardless of the circumstances.
In other word learning/success needs to start at home.
Here is an example that shows part of the problem (keep in mind this is an upper middle class town/school district).

"One thing that stood out to Solomon was the difference between white and black students' attitudes when it came to their parents' involvement in their education. "If a white kid is placed at a lower level," she says, "their parents are in the principal's office immediately to complain and advocate [to] get their kid moved up."

But when Solomon interviewed a black student on the same topic, she got a different reaction. "[The student] said, 'If I ask my mom to help me, what about everybody else in Level 3 [one of the lower level classes] who are facing the same thing?' I have to do this on my own. I have to prove to the school that I'm a good enough student.' That blew me away."

So what are some of the causes? Solomon cites the issue of class when children are entering kindergarten and elementary school. When it comes to students entering middle school, Solomon says, "Student identity, race identity, relationships between black kids and white teachers, the curriculum—all of those things start to come into play."

Old but still relevant.
Mind the Gap: Why Good Schools are Failing Black Students
https://beta.prx.org/stories/40313

 

[4 Dimensional]

The problem is too many parents are looking for the magic learning potion. If you have kids you have to look for every advantage there is to put them in a good position to succeed regardless of the circumstances.
In other word learning/success needs to start at home.
Here is an example that shows part of the problem (keep in mind this is an upper middle class town/school district).

"One thing that stood out to Solomon was the difference between white and black students' attitudes when it came to their parents' involvement in their education. "If a white kid is placed at a lower level," she says, "their parents are in the principal's office immediately to complain and advocate [to] get their kid moved up."

But when Solomon interviewed a black student on the same topic, she got a different reaction. "[The student] said, 'If I ask my mom to help me, what about everybody else in Level 3 [one of the lower level classes] who are facing the same thing?' I have to do this on my own. I have to prove to the school that I'm a good enough student.' That blew me away."

So what are some of the causes? Solomon cites the issue of class when children are entering kindergarten and elementary school. When it comes to students entering middle school, Solomon says, "Student identity, race identity, relationships between black kids and white teachers, the curriculum—all of those things start to come into play."

Old but still relevant.
Mind the Gap: Why Good Schools are Failing Black Students
https://beta.prx.org/stories/40313

I don't disagree with learning starts at home. Parental involvement is necessary, but we also know that involvement is not always going to be there for whatever reason.

If learning starts at home, then we look into what is going on at home. Once you have introduced that element into things, then everything gets more complicated.

So then you wonder, how do you solve the home issue which is connected to the education of the child?

So I can see why some parents looks for school to be a potion.

Families are less stable, so kids find themselves moving from one school to another. How do we deal with children with broken homes? We create programs, but ultimately those programs can only do so much for the child.

And through all the things we mentioned, we haven't cover the surface of the many causes that we can introduce that are issues.

So in my opinion, we have to learn to navigate the things we have little control over because we can set up the ideal learning path without some type of setback. A child from a broken home has to learn or be equipped with the tools necessary to overcome their set backs.
A black child raised in an environment around mainly whites will need to learn how to navigate their situation. And there parents will probably site more with white supremacy unconsciously.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

The problem is too many parents are looking for the magic learning potion. If you have kids you have to look for every advantage there is to put them in a good position to succeed regardless of the circumstances.
In other word learning/success needs to start at home.
Here is an example that shows part of the problem (keep in mind this is an upper middle class town/school district).

"One thing that stood out to Solomon was the difference between white and black students' attitudes when it came to their parents' involvement in their education. "If a white kid is placed at a lower level," she says, "their parents are in the principal's office immediately to complain and advocate [to] get their kid moved up."

But when Solomon interviewed a black student on the same topic, she got a different reaction. "[The student] said, 'If I ask my mom to help me, what about everybody else in Level 3 [one of the lower level classes] who are facing the same thing?' I have to do this on my own. I have to prove to the school that I'm a good enough student.' That blew me away."

So what are some of the causes? Solomon cites the issue of class when children are entering kindergarten and elementary school. When it comes to students entering middle school, Solomon says, "Student identity, race identity, relationships between black kids and white teachers, the curriculum—all of those things start to come into play."

Old but still relevant.
Mind the Gap: Why Good Schools are Failing Black Students
https://beta.prx.org/stories/40313

But your asking the same parents who went through the same shitty public school system and barely made it out to all of a sudden become become the educators at home.

 

[BKF]

But your asking the same parents who went through the same shitty public school system and barely made it out to all of a sudden become become the educators at home.

I am asking them to be parents and do what's best for their kids. In other words take responsibility for what they created.
No one is asking parents to be scientist or mathematicians. What parents (who are not doing so) need to do is give their kids a starting chance by giving them as much knowledge as possible before they are sent to school and while they are attending school.
Why is that somehow a negative or something seen as being impossible?

 

[bham_brotha]

But your asking the same parents who went through the same shitty public school system and barely made it out to all of a sudden become become the educators at home.

Mine did...and when it got to the point that there were things that they didnt know, they got me a tutor. It's time to stop making excuses for bullshit. And the tutor only charged $20 a session. If you really want to educate your kids you can do so. They also had my ass at the public library checking out books and making me read them. This is the type shit THEY do and it's also the reason that me and my 2 siblings are the only 3 out of my mom's side of the family to attend and graduate from college, and from HBCU's at that. If you care enough you'll find a way.

 

[BKF]

Mine did...and when it got to the point that there were things that they didnt know, they got me a tutor. It's time to stop making excuses for bullshit. And the tutor only charged $20 a session. If you really want to educate your kids you can do so. They also had my ass at the public library checking out books and making me read them. This is the type shit THEY do and it's also the reason that me and my 2 siblings are the only 3 out of my mom's side of the family to attend and graduate from college, and from HBCU's at that. If you care enough you'll find a way.

Exactly ...I don't understand this defeatists attitude. It does nothing but create/continue a vicious cycle of failure.

 

[bham_brotha]

Exactly ...I don't understand this defeatists attitude. It does nothing be create/continue a vicious cycle of failure.

Me either but that's just how I was raised. We used to have something called the book mobile. It was a van that came from the public library that rode around the neighborhood and allowed people to check out books. My mom used to have my ass at the end of the driveway every time that bitch came to get books lol. I used to hate how during the summer when everyone else was outside playing they would have me in my room reading and prepping for the next school year. Took until I graduated to get it. Neither of my parents went to college, one worked in a mill, one drove a truck over the road. But they did NOT play about school. When report cards came, they knew. 3 kids, me, Howard University Summa Cum Laude. My brother, Tuskegee University Magna Cum Laude. My sister, Spelman Summa Cum Laude. I just don't do the excuse shit... hell we grew up in the projects.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

I am asking them to be parents and do what's best for their kids. In other words take responsibility for what they created.
No one is asking parents to be scientist or mathematicians. What parents (who are not doing so) need to do is give their kids a starting chance by giving them as much knowledge as possible before they are sent to school and while they are attending school.
Why is that somehow a negative or something seen as being impossible?

I'm not against what you stated I'm just being realistic. We can't pretend like hoodrats and dusty niggaz are the ones who are gonna save these kids. I know some try but the bulk of them are sitting around bullshitting and getting by on these government programs. The section 8, wic, public housing and foodstamp trap needs to be heavily modified. I always wonder about all the potential that gets killed in the hood by the residents being stuck in that mental cycle that's brought on by being stuck in poverty which those programs help perpetuate.

 

[4 Dimensional]

Mine did...and when it got to the point that there were things that they didnt know, they got me a tutor. It's time to stop making excuses for bullshit. And the tutor only charged $20 a session. If you really want to educate your kids you can do so. They also had my ass at the public library checking out books and making me read them. This is the type shit THEY do and it's also the reason that me and my 2 siblings are the only 3 out of my mom's side of the family to attend and graduate from college, and from HBCU's at that. If you care enough you'll find a way.

And there are many parents not like yours. May didn't have the know how on which directions to take. May not be in the position your parents where.

No one is arguing whether they care enough. But what do you with the kids that have parents that don't care at all?

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Mine did...and when it got to the point that there were things that they didnt know, they got me a tutor. It's time to stop making excuses for bullshit. And the tutor only charged $20 a session. If you really want to educate your kids you can do so. They also had my ass at the public library checking out books and making me read them. This is the type shit THEY do and it's also the reason that me and my 2 siblings are the only 3 out of my mom's side of the family to attend and graduate from college, and from HBCU's at that. If you care enough you'll find a way.

Yours did and theres always the few that actually give a damn to make sure their kids succeed but the reality is the bulk of them are a lost cause. Let's just keep it 100. Hell ask the teachers on the board just how many of the parents show up for parent teacher conferences.

 

[bham_brotha]

And there are many parents not like yours. May didn't have the know how on which directions to take. May not be in the position your parents where.

No one is arguing whether they care enough. But what do you with the kids that have parents that don't care at all?

To be real, if their parents never cared there's not going to be a ton you can do to save them. Went to school with plenty of them and teachers tried everything they could. Often it would be those same parents that came to the school and acted a nut when their kids were disciplined or given alternate learning methods. The point is, it DOES start at home. You can try, but a lot of those kids just aren't going to give a shit about school regardless. Hell I used to get ridiculed by the "homies" for getting good grades lol. You can only do what you can do.

 

[BKF]

I'm not against what you stated I'm just being realistic. We can't pretend like hoodrats and dusty niggaz are the ones who are gonna save these kids. I know some try but the bulk of them are sitting around bullshitting and getting by on these government programs. The section 8, wic, public housing and foodstamp trap needs to be heavily modified. I always wonder about all the potential that gets killed in the hood by the residents being stuck in that mental cycle that's brought on by being stuck in poverty which those programs help perpetuate.

Bruh...that is simply an extreme case that people seem to always go to when speaking about black people. When Trump (or anybody else) characterized us as being poor and uneducated.
Black folk immediately went on the defense to say and show what he said to be untrue. No one said to Trump and other folk that he was right.
So why anytime we talk about black folk taken responsibility for things do we go to the crackhead mother, drug dealing absentee father, etc.......
I gave an example above about black parents and their kids in a upper middle class town/school district and how they are having the same problems. So let's stop with the extreme examples that only serve to further promote failure and allow excuses to rule the day.

 

[BKF]

To be real, if their parents never cared there's not going to be a ton you can do to save them. Went to school with plenty of them and teachers tried everything they could. Often it would be those same parents that came to the school and acted a nut when their kids were disciplined or given alternate learning methods. The point is, it DOES start at home. You can try, but a lot of those kids just aren't going to give a shit about school regardless. Hell I used to get ridiculed by the "homies" for getting good grades lol. You can only do what you can do.

Yet the teachers are expected to turn those kids around.

 

[bham_brotha]

I'm not against what you stated I'm just being realistic. We can't pretend like hoodrats and dusty niggaz are the ones who are gonna save these kids. I know some try but the bulk of them are sitting around bullshitting and getting by on these government programs. The section 8, wic, public housing and foodstamp trap needs to be heavily modified. I always wonder about all the potential that gets killed in the hood by the residents being stuck in that mental cycle that's brought on by being stuck in poverty which those programs help perpetuate.

But it's up to those folks to want more. Like I said in one of the posts above, I grew up in the projects. It was my parents that decided enough with that bullshit and busted their asses to get us out of there and give us a better life. Who else is going to do it for you? The government isnt going to do anything but give you a section 8 voucher to relocate. You have to save yourself.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Bruh...that is simply an extreme case that people seem to always go to when speaking about black people. When Trump (or anybody else) characterized us as being poor and uneducated.
Black folk immediately went on the defense to say and show what he said to be true. No one said to Trump other folk that he was right.
So why anytime we talk about black folk taken responsibility for things do we go to the crackhead mother, drug dealing absentee father, etc.......
I gave an example above about black parents and their kids in a upper middle class town/school district and how they are having the same problems. So let's stop with the extreme examples that only serve to further promote failure and allow excuses to rule the day.

I didn't read your upper middle class scenerio. Those kids parents are at fault because they know what got them there.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

But it's up to those folks to want more. Like I said in one of the posts above, I grew up in the projects. It was my parents that decided enough with that bullshit and busted their asses to get us out of there and give us a better life. Who else is going to do it for you? The government isnt going to do anything but give you a section 8 voucher to relocate. You have to save yourself.

But how do you even get them to even want it? It really shouldn't be anyone else motivating them because the conditions they are in should be enough motivation.

 

[bham_brotha]

I think when it boils down to it, the whole put it on the white dude thing doesn't really work much here. Well definitely not in ATL. Look at Atlanta Public Schools. Over 90% black school system with over 90% black teachers. Teachers got so fed up with the bullshit that they just came up with a scheme to just pass the kids on to the next grade so they didn't have to deal with the bullshit anymore. Many of them caught charges and/or got fired for it. But man if you ever actually taught in some of these like a few of my friends do, you know what they deal with day to day. Teaching in a district where kids simply do not give a fuck about school is probably one of the most stressful jobs you can ever have. They disrupt class, fight, disrespect the teachers, etc. Half the schools in APS now have teachers teaching that are only there to get their student loans dismissed because of it. You have to teach your kids how to act at home man.

 

[bham_brotha]

But how do you even get them to even want it? It really shouldn't be anyone else motivating them because the conditions they are in should be enough motivation.

Like I said, it starts at home first. Once a kid gets that mentality that education doesn't matter, reversing that is straight hell. They touched on this in the wire. That school where the kids were straight wildin out everyday........... thats real life for a lot of the inner city schools. These teachers making 30k a year, after a while its like fuck this.

 

[BKF]

But how do you even get them to even want it? It really shouldn't be anyone else motivating them because the conditions they are in should be enough motivation.

You goddamn right...that there circumstances should motivate them to do better and there are plenty of examples of kids who do but it's just not enough. We have to change the mindset of the community.
We have to get get back to not accepting certain things.

 

[4 Dimensional]

To be real, if their parents never cared there's not going to be a ton you can do to save them. Went to school with plenty of them and teachers tried everything they could. Often it would be those same parents that came to the school and acted a nut when their kids were disciplined or given alternate learning methods. The point is, it DOES start at home. You can try, but a lot of those kids just aren't going to give a shit about school regardless. Hell I used to get ridiculed by the "homies" for getting good grades lol. You can only do what you can do.

I agree. It does start at home.

We're just point out when it comes to parent that don't care about their kids education, last resort is usually the school system.

Some kids are just going to get lost and there is nothing we can really do about it.

 

[jasonblacc]

But your asking the same parents who went through the same shitty public school system and barely made it out to all of a sudden become become the educators at home.

I bet those same parents have internet access. If they have that then they should put in the necessary work to get their kids on track. They have sites full of information like Khan Academy being one. When my daughter need help with Math, I could her to answer but I didn’t understand common core show her how they wanted it answered, so I researched it and got understanding of how they wanted things to solved and not doing it how I was taught in grade school.

 

[ballscout1]

Then you have the big experiment know as New Orleans. It's proving that charter schools are not the answer that people thought it was (especially with all that "Waiting for Superman" propaganda). Btw there are some/a few charters school with teachers who belong to a union.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...-exposed-at-naacp_us_58ff4297e4b0c13feaa5c810

"In summary, the NAACP heard that they charter system remains highly segregated by race and economic status. Students have significantly longer commutes to and from school. The percentage of African American teachers has declined dramatically leaving less experienced teachers who are less likely to be accredited and less likely to remain in the system. The costs of administration have gone up while resources for teaching have declined. Several special select schools have their own admission process which results in racially and economically different student bodies. The top administrator of one K-12 system of three schools is paid over a quarter of a million dollars. Students with disabilities have been ill served. Fraud and mismanagement, which certainly predated the conversion to charter schools, continue to occur. Thousands of students are in below average schools. Students and parents feel disempowered and ignored by the system."

Unaware of NO I'll have to read up....

 

[ZuluSam]

When people question the specifics of this proposed school, when they ask where specifically the money is going, what his experience is in school building, what universities did he earn his degrees in, these are vital questions. When they ask why do the money amounts and the target goal change, when they ask for itemized estimates - the answers to these questions are literally the crossroads between competency and incompetency - between legitimacy and fraud.

We do not need a single centralized leader of all Black folks. That's impossible and it's something we never had. We DO need to coalesce, network, plan and then do the work. You can kill a man but you can't kill a movement.

End thread. I live in Houston and see folk who have been out there going hard for the community for years....yearsssssss. And all of them get government funds which meanS ACCOUNTABILITY, ACCOUNTABILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY

 

[respiration]

End thread. I live in Houston and see folk who have been out there going hard for the community for years....yearsssssss. And all of them get government funds which meanS ACCOUNTABILITY, ACCOUNTABILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY

That's what's up

 

[exiledking]

I could see him not wanting GoFundme to get a cut but all the complaints about no transparency seem like he should be things to reassure supporters that will be addressed instead of the whinny victim shit. But maybe true supporters don't need transparency and its only haters and coons who would question the Prince.

Lol I feel ya.

Look, I know you know but just for the slow people in this thread, THERE AINT GONNA BE NO SCHOOL. THERE NEVER WAS GONNA BE. AND IT AINT GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS "HATERS". ITS ALL HIM. He's like a guy trying to buy a Mercedes with no down payment, no income, and bad credit. He never had the tools, the means , or even the mental capability to do any of this. The school idea was stupid anyway. A boarding school for poor kids? It was doomed from the jump. It has nothing to do with Carmelo and the stripper, Not even his degree, real or fake. He's just not a mentally sound person, he's very immature, mentally unstable , and he actually needs therapy. He's psychotic. It's more than obvious. Let's put this thread to bed with his memory and hope that he goes to get the help he needs.

 

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This was rough but he made some good points. Umar is not infallible.

Not infallible? He's a full on con man.