Stephen A. Smith.... Lonzo Ball.. Petrified....

The Coon is right, I told y'all his dad ruined him. The NBA is not college. The worst NBA player will kill any nigga off the street.

Yep... the BGOL experts will tell you that he's helping him though. I've heard 'Its only going to help him because people are coming at him and it will make him better', 'Lavar put him on the map and was responsible for him being drafted #2' (Lonzo was on the map as a HS Junior and was National Player of the year' as a senior, etc. You can literally see his spirit and resolve being broken, and the Kid didn't deserve this shit....

When self promotion and pimping your children goes wrong...

Hopefully the Kid will get better, but so far, he is historically bad :smh:
 
A broken jump shot doesn't make a player a bust. Stephen A is a fuckin moron. Point guard is the toughest position in the league the master. He's an outstanding rebounder, passer, and not a terrible defensive player already. This is just a case of the media hyping a player up just to tear him down. He didn't say he was the next Jason Kidd or Penny. The media did. He'll be fine. He has to fix that jumper, but he'll be fine.
 
Yep... the BGOL experts will tell you that he's helping him though. I've heard 'Its only going to help him because people are coming at him and it will make him better', 'Lavar put him on the map and was responsible for him being drafted #2' (Lonzo was on the map as a HS Junior and was National Player of the year' as a senior, etc. You can literally see his spirit and resolve being broken, and the Kid didn't deserve this shit....

When self promotion and pimping your children goes wrong...

Hopefully the Kid will get better, but so far, he is historically bad :smh:
It's sad, I don't see him getting much better. Maybe slightly but either you have it or you don't. He could be an average bench player at some point but not now.
 
A broken jump shot doesn't make a player a bust. Stephen A is a fuckin moron. Point guard is the toughest position in the league the master. He's an outstanding rebounder, passer, and not a terrible defensive player already. This is just a case of the media hyping a player up just to tear him down. He didn't say he was the next Jason Kidd or Penny. The media did. He'll be fine. He has to fix that jumper, but he'll be fine.

Bruh if you believe Lakers Brass are happy with his performance you are fooling yourself. If you believe a PG not having a jumper in todays NBA doesn't make a player a bust you are fooling yourself... Its 20 games in, he's against grown men and professionals who the second, third time around will adjust and start taking other elements of his game away. If you don't believe a parameter player who can't shoot doesn't cripple a team offensively you are fooling yourself. Rebounding or not, his inability to shoot is hurting the offensive dynamic of this team, just like once Rondo had to move away from his HOF teammates, he was just hollow stats and no success, and Lonzo doesn't have the luxury of having HOF teammates...

If he doesn't fix his Jumpshot he is a bust point blank...
 
It's sad, I don't see him getting much better. Maybe slightly but either you have it or you don't. He could be an average bench player at some point but not now.

A 'slightly' better Kendall Marshall man... And his loud mouth ass father talking about he's better than Steph Curry and some others already... Dude hurt him in so many ways man...

I am really pulling for him, but it doesn't look good. You would expect to see SOME improvement or signs of it at this point... Dude was 1-7 last game, missing lay ups and shit! His head is all fucked up. Look at his face when he misses or has to talk about it in interviews.. :smh:
 
A 'slightly' better Kendall Marshall man... And his loud mouth ass father talking about he's better than Steph Curry and some others already... Dude hurt him in so many ways man...

I am really pulling for him, but it doesn't look good. You would expect to see SOME improvement or signs of it at this point... Dude was 1-7 last game, missing lay ups and shit! His head is all fucked up. Look at his face when he misses or has to talk about it in interviews.. :smh:
Its fucked up, Ian Clark is much better than him and he gets no play time. His fathers approach was wrong , even if he felt that way. Wait until he balls out then talk shit.
 
The Coon is right, I told y'all his dad ruined him. The NBA is not college. The worst NBA player will kill any nigga off the street.

His Dad didn't do anything, he's just not making shots at a historic level. I mean not even making free throws. It has to be the pressure that's getting to him. The pressure of being "The Savior".

He shouldn't be starting.

Yep... the BGOL experts will tell you that he's helping him though. I've heard 'Its only going to help him because people are coming at him and it will make him better', 'Lavar put him on the map and was responsible for him being drafted #2' (Lonzo was on the map as a HS Junior and was National Player of the year' as a senior, etc. You can literally see his spirit and resolve being broken, and the Kid didn't deserve this shit....

When self promotion and pimping your children goes wrong...

Hopefully the Kid will get better, but so far, he is historically bad :smh:

His Dad did prepare him for rough times but he's just playing bad. His Dad didn't make him the number two pick, his Dad brought him into the eyes of the general public. Lonzo's been on the map since his junior year in high school, the casual fan only heard about him when the draft was coming up.

Also, other that Patrick Beverly no players has come at him since his first game. Dude's just shooting bad. He's a step slow at times with passing and layups. Lakers coaches should've been fixed some of those issues.


A broken jump shot doesn't make a player a bust. Stephen A is a fuckin moron. Point guard is the toughest position in the league the master. He's an outstanding rebounder, passer, and not a terrible defensive player already. This is just a case of the media hyping a player up just to tear him down. He didn't say he was the next Jason Kidd or Penny. The media did. He'll be fine. He has to fix that jumper, but he'll be fine.

Agreed, he also has to be more aggressive and fix the smaller things about his game.
 
The problem is a few things. Lakers don't have any spot up shooters, and Lonzo can't create off the dribble. Luke Walton is also fucking up. Last night Clarkson had it going, let him finish the game. His rotations are shitty, and we have lost at least 3 games due to this. If Lonzo isn't getting boards and dimes, let his ass shit. There are no lottery pics to get this year. Go full out for the 8th seed.

Dumbass
 
His Dad didn't do anything, he's just not making shots at a historic level. I mean not even making free throws. It has to be the pressure that's getting to him. The pressure of being "The Savior".





His Dad did prepare him for rough times but he's just playing bad. His Dad didn't make him the number two pick, his Dad brought him into the eyes of the general public. Lonzo's been on the map since his junior year in high school, the casual fan only heard about him when the draft was coming up.

Also, other that Patrick Beverly no players has come at him since his first game. Dude's just shooting bad. He's a step slow at times with passing and layups. Lakers coaches should've been fixed some of those issues.




Agreed, he also has to be more aggressive and fix the smaller things about his game.

He was already out there man.... His Dad brought him to the 'general' public in an extremely negative light not conducive to the Kids mental maturity. He's hated because of the had directed toward his father an he's breaking down mentally because of it...

The Lakers can't fix mental issues Bruh...
 
The problem is a few things. Lakers don't have any spot up shooters, and Lonzo can't create off the dribble. Luke Walton is also fucking up. Last night Clarkson had it going, let him finish the game. His rotations are shitty, and we have lost at least 3 games due to this. If Lonzo isn't getting boards and dimes, let his ass shit. There are no lottery pics to get this year. Go full out for the 8th seed.

Dumbass

Lonzo is missing Lay ups thought Bruh...
 
His Dad didn't do anything, he's just not making shots at a historic level. I mean not even making free throws. It has to be the pressure that's getting to him. The pressure of being "The Savior".





His Dad did prepare him for rough times but he's just playing bad. His Dad didn't make him the number two pick, his Dad brought him into the eyes of the general public. Lonzo's been on the map since his junior year in high school, the casual fan only heard about him when the draft was coming up.

Also, other that Patrick Beverly no players has come at him since his first game. Dude's just shooting bad. He's a step slow at times with passing and layups. Lakers coaches should've been fixed some of those issues.




Agreed, he also has to be more aggressive and fix the smaller things about his game.
His dad made the public expecting Kobe or Chris Paul. His Dad hyped him up. It's back firing and will hurt the BBB if they don't turn this shit around.
 
He was already out there man.... His Dad brought him to the 'general' public in an extremely negative light not conducive to the Kids mental maturity. He's hated because of the had directed toward his father an he's breaking down mentally because of it...

The Lakers can't fix mental issues Bruh...

If his shots were falling, there'd literally be no issue. Other than his shooting, he's doing very good.
 
He'll have to change that shot in the summer. We'll see what he's really about next year. Will he be fucking around rapping, partying and bullshitting in the off-season or putting in the work? And changing his shooting form will definitely be work.
 
If his shots were falling, there'd literally be no issue. Other than his shooting, he's doing very good.
Yep, but thats a big issue. And in another sports forum, they were saying a lot of is other stats, especially rebounding is in response to the fact that players are playing off of him because he can't shoot. He doesn't have a lot of pressure defensively on the parameter, so he can see the floor clearer and it opens up assist opportunities as well as rebounding opportunities.

Looking at is Assist and Rebounding numbers is fools gold in a sense in the grand scheme of things.... If he's not shooting well, he's a liability to the team and the schemes they can run.
 
Nah, I'll give him a pass this rookie year. Now, after he's had a year of playing against REAL NBA players and DON'T work on what he needs to work on during the off season, then it is what it is.

I with you on this.

However, he is under a microscope like no other rookie in the league. That was not Lonzo's doing.

He should be allowed to develop at his pace and not the pace of other people's expectations.

He's definitely not what he was marketed to be coming into to the league.
 
He'll have to change that shot in the summer. We'll see what he's really about next year. Will he be fucking around rapping, partying and bullshitting in the off-season or putting in the work? And changing his shooting form will definitely be work.

His form is horrible but my biggest issue is, he can fucking shoot! I understand the NBA is a different game but damn!



A person who "Can't shoot" doesn't take those shots. He just needs to find his rhythm.
 
Ya'll expecting one and dones to come out and perform like LeBron in his rookie year?

Nope, but their is the expectation that they won't shoot worse than anybody in the history of the game through their first 20 games either tho...

I see your attempt to be obtuse though bruh :cheers:
 
Yep, but thats a big issue. And in another sports forum, they were saying a lot of is other stats, especially rebounding is in response to the fact that players are playing off of him because he can't shoot. He doesn't have a lot of pressure defensively on the parameter, so he can see the floor clearer and it opens up assist opportunities as well as rebounding opportunities.

Looking at is Assist and Rebounding numbers is fools gold in a sense in the grand scheme of things.... If he's not shooting well, he's a liability to the team and the schemes they can run.

I can't disagree with anything you said.
 
His form is horrible but my biggest issue is, he can fucking shoot! I understand the NBA is a different game but damn!



A person who "Can't shoot" doesn't take those shots. He just needs to find his rhythm.


Bruh, those UCLA highlights mean absolutely nothing. Shorter line, playing against smaller younger players. He's playing against grown men now, and he's getting worse. Understand, he's also pathetic shooting free throws. The issue isn't his 3 point shooting, its his shooting in general...
 
I want him to do good but, I don't see it. He dont have a shot. If he had a killer instinct and could attack the rim that could hold him over until he develops his shot but, he looks like he has no drive to be an elite player.
 
Bruh if you believe Lakers Brass are happy with his performance you are fooling yourself. If you believe a PG not having a jumper in todays NBA doesn't make a player a bust you are fooling yourself....

I don't how you got this from of what I said. It's not even worth going back and forth about. I stand by what I said. Lonzo will be fine as long as he makes the necessary changes to his shot. And by fine, I mean a good starting pg for years to come. I never bought into the hype, so my expectations haven't changed. Y'all thought the nigga was Jason Kidd. He's definitely not that.
 
Bruh, those UCLA highlights mean absolutely nothing. Shorter line, playing against smaller younger players. He's playing against grown men now, and he's getting worse. Understand, he's also pathetic shooting free throws. The issue isn't his 3 point shooting, its his shooting in general...

It actually mean a lot, it means he can shoot. He was the star player on the team so he had good defenders on him. Also many of his shots were contested.

In the NBA, he’s shooting many uncontested open 3’s and jumpers. He’s just missing, it has nothing to do with the defenders.

I see him practicing and he doesn’t shoot like an NBA player even in practice. Point being, he was known as a shooter but something went wrong I’m not sure it’s because of the defense.

Like you said, he’s even missing free throws. That has nothing to do with defenders.
 
I don't how you got this from of what I said. It's not even worth going back and forth about. I stand by what I said. Lonzo will be fine as long as he makes the necessary changes to his shot. And by fine, I mean a good starting pg for years to come. I never bought into the hype, so my expectations haven't changed. Y'all thought the nigga was Jason Kidd. He's definitely not that.

Who's Y'all?!?! I don't know where YOU got that from. My names not Lavar Fam... I'm not trying to mix in with you chief, mellow and don't get upset. We're talking basketball here, nothing personal...

Also, their is a LOT if if in your sentence. A lot of players will be fine IF or As Long As... Like I said, I hope he does well and gets it together, nice enough kid, but I'm not sure of his mental make up at this point...
 
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