How the Process failed Jahlil Okafor

...Greg Monroe is chilling on the bench too AND he at least TRIES to play defense. Okafor not fitting has more to do his no fucks given defense than offense...

Well one more year and he’s done in the league unless he shapes up now
 
What do you think the organization wants for him?
A few pretzels and Philly Cheesesteaks. Dude ain't shit.

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So... you 'teach' and 'coach' a grown man work ethic and intensity?!?!?! Ok... :rolleyes:
Grown man? He was a fucking kid. Him being 6'10 275 doesnt make him any less a teenager bro. And yes, you coach work ethic and intensity... thats part of coaching. That and player development. Notice the team doesnt develop talent. Thats why they continue to be shit despite drafting high the last decade. You guys lucked up on cant miss (albeit injury prone) talent like Embiid and then tanked again for cat miss prospect Simmons... Any player needing actual development will be fucked and shipped out. Im concerned about what happens to Fultz.
 
Grown man? He was a fucking kid. Him being 6'10 275 doesnt make him any less a teenager bro. And yes, you coach work ethic and intensity... thats part of coaching. That and player development. Notice the team doesnt develop talent. Thats why they continue to be shit despite drafting high the last decade. You guys lucked up on cant miss (albeit injury prone) talent like Embiid and then tanked again for cat miss prospect Simmons... Any player needing actual development will be fucked and shipped out. Im concerned about what happens to Fultz.
Ok.... :D
 
So... you 'teach' and 'coach' a grown man work ethic and intensity?!?!?! Ok... :rolleyes:
When the Heat picked up Whiteside he wasn’t the player he is now.. The organization saw the potential and worked on it.. no different than drafting a talent and developing them into Allstars

Okafor lack of defense is a failure on the organization to recognize that before they drafted him.. but sure they knew that aspect and still took him anyway
 
When the Heat picked up Whiteside he wasn’t the player he is now.. The organization saw the potential and worked on it.. no different than drafting a talent and developing them into Allstars

Okafor lack of defense is a failure on the organization to recognize that before they drafted him.. but sure they knew that aspect and still took him anyway
It really isn't. He was the best pick at that time. It's real easy to me a Monday morning quarterback Bruh, but go back to that draft and tell me a better pick at that time. Whiteside is one player and his track record of hard work to finally get to the point he was has nothing to do with the Heat as an organization, if it did, there would be other players they developed into superstars.

For every Whiteside in Miami you have a Winslow, who a regressed badly since his rookie year. Or what about Johnson, same thing....

Whiteside became who he is because HE wanted it, there wa no magic formula plan or solution the Hear came up with to magically turn him into a star Bruh. Also, comparing him to the #3 pick in the draft is ludicrious.

I see a WHOLE lot more of Okafor than any of you guys so while it's easy to speak to things on the outside looking in with a broad brush, you really don't have any true context of his situation, attitude or performance.
 
Greg Monroe is also on the bench with Milwaukee.

and they would trade him if they could
Monroe is on the bench partially because he’s not a good defender but also because of Giannis. Greg Monroe is only and issue to a defense 15 feet and in. He’s just in Giannis way on the offensive end in half court sets.

I think Okafor will be ok once he’s traded. Some coaches want a traditional big man that can cause a defense to sag in the paint. I think analytics will kill his career if he lets them. Haven’t seen much of him playing but him and Towns are the same defensively lol.
 
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So... you 'teach' and 'coach' a grown man work ethic and intensity?!?!?! Ok... :rolleyes:

Man, that young niggas prefrontal cortex still got 2 yrs to actually fully develop. He's not a grown man.

He's a very talented, semi-slow moving, lazy,and emotionally broken young man who's still haunted by the loss of his mom.

The NBA, more concerningly 76ers, need better fucking sports psychologists on their payroll...
 
Man, that young niggas prefrontal cortex still got 2 yrs to actually fully develop. He's not a grown man.

He's a very talented, semi-slow moving, lazy,and emotionally broken young man who's still haunted by the loss of his mom.

The NBA, more concerningly 76ers, need better fucking sports psychologists on their payroll...

So.. his bad play is primarily due to his mothers death 10 years ago? He rose to become arguably the best player in the country in HS, as well as college, and 'now', all of a sudden his play is based on his moms death? Didn't affect him much on the court at all until now? That actually makes sense Bruh, thanks for clearing that up.... :hmm:

I wish nothing but the best for the young cat, however I look forward to the day he gets his act together when his semi-slow moving, lazy ass is on another team...
 
So.. his bad play is primarily due to his mothers death 10 years ago? He rose to become arguably the best player in the country in HS, as well as college, and 'now', all of a sudden his play is based on his moms death? Didn't affect him much on the court at all until now? That actually makes sense Bruh, thanks for clearing that up.... :hmm:

I wish nothing but the best for the young cat, however I look forward to the day he gets his act together when his semi-slow moving, lazy ass is on another team...
Yea.. moms passing has nothing to do with it. Just a bad organzation that didnt develop him or put him in an environment conducive to learning or being a professional. They were too concerned in drafting a bunch of young guys and tanking. Bad coaching and no vet leadership in locker room.
 
Yea.. moms passing has nothing to do with it. Just a bad organzation that didnt develop him or put him in an environment conducive to learning or being a professional. They were too concerned in drafting a bunch of young guys and tanking. Bad coaching and no vet leadership in locker room.

Right, Right :D

Glad to see you have intimate knowledge of EXACTLY everything that has occurred and the EXACT working environment he's been in the past 3 years... Thanks for sharing :giggle:
 
So.. his bad play is primarily due to his mothers death 10 years ago? He rose to become arguably the best player in the country in HS, as well as college, and 'now', all of a sudden his play is based on his moms death? Didn't affect him much on the court at all until now? That actually makes sense Bruh, thanks for clearing that up.... :hmm:

I wish nothing but the best for the young cat, however I look forward to the day he gets his act together when his semi-slow moving, lazy ass is on another team...

No, not at all what I said or my words, but it has everything to do with the way he internalized losses and criticism. Read incorrectly all you want into my words, but what's happened with his failure in Philly largely deals with the fact that most people (let alone pro athletes) have trouble with dealing with failure after experiencing nothing but success their whole careers. Now, attach the emotional baggage he has with the passing of his mom and him being extremely introverted.

Couple that with the fact that with his immaturity and youth and yes, you have a problem that the organization should have managed better.

It's same with thinking that a two to three-day course of financial management will make a pro athlete 17- 22 yr old kid a successful financial planner. Shit is doomed to fail from the beginning...
 
Monroe is on the bench partially because he’s not a good defender but also because of Giannis. Greg Monroe is only and issue to a defense 15 feet and in. He’s just in Giannis way on the offensive end in half court sets.

I think Okafor will be ok once he’s traded. Some coaches want a traditional big man that can cause a defense to sag in the paint. I think analytics will kill his career if he lets them. Haven’t seen much of him playing but him and Towns are the same defensively lol.

Greg Monroe and Giannis don't play the same position :hmm:
 
Greg Monroe and Giannis don't play the same position :hmm:
I’m aware, but they play on the same team. Maker is a big that can stretch a defense. Monroe doesn’t have that ability which is why Maker has been starting and is usually on the floor when Giannis is on the floor.
 
No, not at all what I said or my words, but it has everything to do with the way he internalized losses and criticism. Read incorrectly all you want into my words, but what's happened with his failure in Philly largely deals with the fact that most people (let alone pro athletes) have trouble with dealing with failure after experiencing nothing but success their whole careers. Now, attach the emotional baggage he has with the passing of his mom and him being extremely introverted.

Couple that with the fact that with his immaturity and youth and yes, you have a problem that the organization should have managed better.

It's same with thinking that a two to three-day course of financial management will make a pro athlete 17- 22 yr old kid a successful financial planner. Shit is doomed to fail from the beginning...

Valid points. Media and social media could be ruthless as well. Would make the biggest extrovert a homebody
 
I’m aware, but they play on the same team. Maker is a big that can stretch a defense. Monroe doesn’t have that ability which is why Maker has been starting and is usually on the floor when Giannis is on the floor.

So you said all of this to agree with what I said originally :hmm:
 
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