Coulter Has A Point With DACA

[ballscout1]

Either there is a system of oppression in all areas of human activity designed to set up road blocks for black people called racism white supremacy or there isn't. Now if there is then your argument is mute. If their isn't then we as black people are inferior. What say you?

We can stop this debate right now.

you are trying the all or nothing approach and it isn't valid.

those who accept themselves as inferior buy into the narrative and do the work for the oppressors.

the days of you can't eat here, can't live here, can't do this are done. But if you but their narrative and sit back and volunteer to be without then you are doing their work for them. You are also validating their narrative.

Black people are not inferior and never have been. So who do you want to believe them or your history ?Once again when we allow them to define and dictate their narrative to our kids and then our kids live out that narrative , it is us that failed our kids.

 

[ankhheru]

you are trying the all or nothing approach and it isn't valid.

those who accept themselves as inferior buy into the narrative and do the work for the oppressors.

the days of you can't eat here, can't live here, can't do this are done. But if you but their narrative and sit back and volunteer to be without then you are doing their work for them. You are also validating their narrative.

Black people are not inferior and never have been. So who do you want to believe them or your history ?Once again when we allow them to define and dictate their narrative to our kids and then our kids live out that narrative , it is us that failed our kids.

Your ducking the question because it puts the rubber to the road. Hit me up when your ready to answer my question honestly.

 

[KRAYZIE]

You cannot be serious!
Those men for the most part championed Pan Africanism. So the main idea in their thinking was that black people are all related and not
under the white man's definition of "nation".
We always refer to ourselves as brothers and sisters. What is Jamaican but an ex-colony of England? Hatian? Nigerian?

White people got some of us thinking we are "different" based on what crops our grandfathers picked for massa!

I'm very serious, look at what he said.

Desecendants of American Slaves? Any of them?

My post was in regards to what you said. You made it seem like it was on the children of American slaves that fought for social emancipation in the United States, and the only ones to contribute culturally, as though the children of West Indian slaves did nothing.

 

[sharkbait28]

I agree with everything you said except the part about God.

To be God, you need to be able to do the thing of God.
I don't want to interject religion into this discussion but I want to share two points about The Most High.

Isaiah 46:10 (God Speaking)
Only I can tell you the future before it even happens. Everything I plan will come to pass, for I do whatever I wish.

Job 38:12 (God Speaking)
"Have you ever in your life commanded the morning, And caused the dawn to know its place,...?

The idea is God putting man in the right frame of mind. He was saying that you can never be Me!

This motherfucker preaching now. Just like a CAC. Wicked ass dude with a ton of hate in his heart for other human beings but swears he's godly. What a fucking joke

 

[ballscout1]

Your ducking the question because it puts the rubber to the road. Hit me up when your ready to answer my question honestly.

The question doesn't have an answer..it isn't either or..

 

[ankhheru]

The question doesn't have an answer..it isn't either or..

Are you saying that there is no such thing as a system of oppression that affects all areas of human activity called racism white supremacy?

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Are you saying that there is no such thing as a system of oppression that affects all areas of human activity called racism white supremacy?

Get em

 

[HeathCliff]

This motherfucker preaching now. Just like a CAC. Wicked ass dude with a ton of hate in his heart for other human beings but swears he's godly. What a fucking joke

 

[ballscout1]

Are you saying that there is no such thing as a system of oppression that affects all areas of human activity called racism white supremacy?

Lets not be obtuse. ...I have been very clear that such system exists and does put obstacles in front of us..

I have also been just as clear in stating that too many of us contribute to the success of that system by the paths and actions we choose.

 

[ankhheru]

Lets not be obtuse. ...I have been very clear that such system exists and does put obstacles in front of us..

I have also been just as clear in stating that too many of us contribute to the success of that system by the paths and actions we choose.

So we agree it exists. Now let's go one step further. Under the system of racism white supremacy the world is akin to a slave ship. You have victims below the decks, sometimes victims working above the decks, the crew working above the deck and the captain. The captain is the individuals practicing racism white supremacy.

My son is in the Navy on board a ship so I'm familiar with the chain of responsibility on ships. If there's an inspection and someone is found to not be in standards the individual ultimately held responsible is that Captain. It's his job to ensure everyone aboard that ship is held to standard.

Now you can say sea man so and so knew the standards and had a responsibility to meet them but the inspector doesn't address sea man so an so. He addresses the captain. He wants to know why sea man so and so wasnt properly trained and blames that Captain for not providing the proper training.

Why are you not addressing the one ultimately responsible for our condition? Why are you not asking them why there is a systemic condition in place making sure everyone doesn't have equal opportunities?

You're in the same boat as everyone else and the only one you should be asking why ain't the one chained up next to you. After all the ones chained next to you are operating under the same system from their own vantage point and it may not be the same as yours. You might have been given extra rations or taught a few skills such as sewing and repairing sails but you ain't no different. Point that finger where it belongs.

Now once that system of oppression is gone and replaced with a system of justice, (ensuring no one is mistreated and those who need the most constructive help get it first) then we can address sea man so and so. Because then it's a level playing field and everyone would be responsible for his or her own situation and not have to deal with life from a disadvantage that other folks don't have.

 

[An RnB Thug]

Not going for this Cave Bitches Jedi Mind Tricks
Turn us against them?
Fuck You Bitch

YOU are the ones that are illegal you cac
Ya'll had "special treatment" for 450 years now NO ONE can get it huh?

 

[ballscout1]

So we agree it exists. Now let's go one step further. Under the system of racism white supremacy the world is akin to a slave ship. You have victims below the decks, sometimes victims working above the decks, the crew working above the deck and the captain. The captain is the individuals practicing racism white supremacy.

My son is in the Navy on board a ship so I'm familiar with the chain of responsibility on ships. If there's an inspection and someone is found to not be in standards the individual ultimately held responsible is that Captain. It's his job to ensure everyone aboard that ship is held to standard.

Now you can say sea man so and so knew the standards and had a responsibility to meet them but the inspector doesn't address sea man so an so. He addresses the captain. He wants to know why sea man so and so wasnt properly trained and blames that Captain for not providing the proper training.

Why are you not addressing the one ultimately responsible for our condition? Why are you not asking them why there is a systemic condition in place making sure everyone doesn't have equal opportunities?

You're in the same boat as everyone else and the only one you should be asking why ain't the one chained up next to you. After all the ones chained next to you are operating under the same system from their own vantage point and it may not be the same as yours. You might have been given extra rations or taught a few skills such as sewing and repairing sails but you ain't no different. Point that finger where it belongs.

Now once that system of oppression is gone and replaced with a system of justice, (ensuring no one is mistreated and those who need the most constructive help get it first) then we can address sea man so and so. Because then it's a level playing field and everyone would be responsible for his or her own situation and not have to deal with life from a disadvantage that other folks don't have.

I am so done with your fruity analogies and desire to be a victim in totality.

I served in the military and long before that inspector comes aboard the seaman are inspected and if they are held derelict they are addressed and held accountable by everyone superior to them up the chain in that ship.


if that isn't done then it is the captains ultimate responsibility.

you seem to act like this system of white supremacy is something new and it has not been faced by each generation before today.

our people were ready to face death just to be able to read.....

and there will never be a level playing field because if it isn't white supremacy then its classicism.

you seem to think that if and only if some magical fairy removes and obstacles then and only then can we rise....

I say that it is our duty to not participate in our own demise and to control the things we have control over

You have to understand that people have to pay the price for peace. If you dare to struggle, you dare to win. If you dare not to struggle then god damn it, you don’t deserve to win. Let me say peace to you, if you’re willing to fight for it.

 

[ankhheru]

I am so done with your fruity analogies and desire to be a victim in totality.

I served in the military and long before that inspector comes aboard the seaman are inspected and if they are held derelict they are addressed and held accountable by everyone superior to them up the chain in that ship.


if that isn't done then it is the captains ultimate responsibility.

you seem to act like this system of white supremacy is something new and it has not been faced by each generation before today.

our people were ready to face death just to be able to read.....

and there will never be a level playing field because if it isn't white supremacy then its classicism.

you seem to think that if and only if some magical fairy removes and obstacles then and only then can we rise....

I say that it is our duty to not participate in our own demise and to control the things we have control over

Victim blame but don't address the victimizer. People deal with the system of racism white supremacy from a personal vantage point. Because you see/saw pitfalls don't mean other's did and youre better than those that didn't. Period.

Now you can get on your soap box and pontificate about the way you see things but remember the way you see things is from your lens and no one else's. Because you did or didn't do something don't make you the authority or give you the right to point fingers. Especially when you ain't pointing them in the right direction. I shouldn't have to tell you this because you should already know.

You caught a couple of breaks, had a mentor or two, maybe a parent involved, knew someone on the job, didn't have to worry about food coming up, or clothes, got a scholarship or worked to go to school. So what. Everybody ain't got it like that and start from a different point.

Deal with this system and level the field.

Still ni@@a.

 

[Atoosa]

...Not too bright.

If you think I'm one of your buddies that throw out city names hoping you get some kind of street credibility, you're talking to the wrong black man.
I've seen clowns like you get slumped in La Grange, GA, while thinking they are bullet proof because they were from a "Big City".

If this discussion is a sign of your intellect, you're lucky to be living at all.
The majority of your post was a deflection of logic but I will answer the last sentence.

When your children or mine do not want to go and start a business of their own they will have to conform to another person's definition of everything, from life to corporate culture. I speak Spanish, but I feel it is a waste of time because frankly, in the US, I only use it sporadically if at all. The conformity of having black people speaking Spanish
as if that language is better than Fon, Igbo or Swahili is detestable to me and if anything, black people should be forging our way to connect with Africa and her people.
I cannot stand the ignorance of black Americans stating that "they hate us". That's a lie from the white man to stop a reconnection. Don't believe me?
Look at what whites did to Marcus Garvey's attempt to reconnect. They had spies and moles all in his business. And my own mother is from West Africa and I know for a fact that they don't hate us.
You're not thinking on a higher level. I can tell that you breathe through your mouth due to your Chicago statement.

Stay on BGOL and waste your time while I'm warning black people of imminent danger. I'm teaching children in my community the power of open source software development with Afrocentric values and language skills. I'm only teaching Swahili now but I want to teach other languages too.
Trump don't care about us and "teaming" up with Pepper Bellies and Gays will only leave us holding the bag at the end, as history has proven. I'm tired of my people getting
the short end of the stick!

What you know about LaGrange GA...I'm from about 40 minutes SE of there...

 

[Aldebaran]

What you know about LaGrange GA...I'm from about 40 minutes SE of there...

I was there for a summer back in high school. My uncle was stationed at Ft. Benning and I lived in Phenix City, AL most of the summer. My cousin
lived in La Grange. So when we visited to La Grange, you know kinfolk had to show out.

 

[ballscout1]

Victim blame but don't address the victimizer. People deal with the system of racism white supremacy from a personal vantage point. Because you see/saw pitfalls don't mean other's did and youre better than those that didn't. Period.

Now you can get on your soap box and pontificate about the way you see things but remember the way you see things is from your lens and no one else's. Because you did or didn't do something don't make you the authority or give you the right to point fingers. Especially when you ain't pointing them in the right direction. I shouldn't have to tell you this because you should already know.

You caught a couple of breaks, had a mentor or two, maybe a parent involved, knew someone on the job, didn't have to worry about food coming up, or clothes, got a scholarship or worked to go to school. So what. Everybody ain't got it like that and start from a different point.

Deal with this system and level the field.

Still ni@@a.

And you spend all your time ignoring what you have control over...

Whoa is me they won't let me

I'll just sit on the stoop and wait until it's fair...until then I'll hold my breath..

Sure hope the cacs teach my kids good.

Sure wish they would black folks exist. .

Black folks spend more each year than the GDP of Russia yet have no economic power because we don't spend it in our own communities....that we have control over and that is something we can control if we chose too..

70% of the nfl is black but 0% of the owners...you want change then sit your black ass down and don't perform until you get what you want..

Raise your children with priorities other than rapper or athlete...

Buy land instead of rims..

Teach your kids how to invest and start them off while young..

Stop waiting for crakkas to teach your kids their history....teaching shouldn't end when the last school bell rings

Knowing the system doesn't mean dwell on it.....all efforts and actions should be to minimize the influence it has over our community..

That is how it will end...cacs won't end it..

 

[ankhheru]

And you spend all your time ignoring what you have control over...

Whoa is me they won't let me

I'll just sit on the stoop and wait until it's fair...until then I'll hold my breath..

Sure hope the cacs teach my kids good.

Sure wish they would black folks exist. .

Black folks spend more each year than the GDP of Russia yet have no economic power because we don't spend it in our own communities....that we have control over and that is something we can control if we chose too..

70% of the nfl is black but 0% of the owners...you want change then sit your black ass down and don't perform until you get what you want..

Raise your children with priorities other than rapper or athlete...

Buy land instead of rims..

Teach your kids how to invest and start them off while young..

Stop waiting for crakkas to teach your kids their history....teaching shouldn't end when the last school bell rings

Knowing the system doesn't mean dwell on it.....all efforts and actions should be to minimize the influence it has over our community..

That is how it will end...cacs won't end it..

It is evident that we won't agree so one more time and im done. Everybody ain't at your level of awareness. Everybody didn't have whatever influences, support systems, resources or stepping stones that you have/had. The real problem is the fact that the system exists in the first place. Get rid of the system and then talk to me about others not doing what you do or being on the level your on.