Well, Damn... The Realest Review of Mayweather/McGregor Surprisingly Came from ESPN

Ming Fei Hong

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Why are we praising Conor McGregor for losing to Floyd Mayweather?

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Dotun Akintoye
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"You don't know a damn thing about boxing."


Listen to people argue about the sport (and all fight fans ever do is argue) and you'll inevitably hear that accusation. It's the standard way of dismissing someone who doesn't agree with you about some piece of boxing arcana, but it's also so commonly thrown around because two men beating each other up with their fists can look simple -- and boxing is anything but.

So it's my turn: It's still strange to see how many people don't seem to get what they watched last Saturday night.

Conor McGregor deserves a lot of credit for landing this fight, taking his preparations seriously and committing to trying to win given his limited resources in boxing skill and experience. What he shouldn't be given credit for is his performance -- for "lasting" 10 rounds with a historically elite fighter (who is no longer elite).

The truth is McGregor was merely a prop in a perfectly executed piece of theater. He didn't survive 10 rounds with Floyd Mayweather, he was carried for 10 rounds by Mayweather. Until Mayweather had enough and stopped the fight.

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Conor McGregor, right, grabbed Floyd Mayweather from behind in a few occasions during their fight in Las Vegas. Christian Petersen/Getty Images
Let's start with a basic observation. It appears McGregor did not learn much about boxing during his training camp. He did not learn how to throw a punch. He doesn't know how to start the motion in his legs and hips and transfer his body weight through the punch. He doesn't have even average power in the ring. He also did not have any grasp of the basic rules. It was quite shocking to hear McGregor admit in the postfight press conference that he was "using valuable energy here to get to this man's back and we're just being reset." Was he under the impression that he could throw punches to an opponent's back? Not to mention all the holding of the head and rabbit punches. It makes one wonder what the point was of having referee Joe Cortez attend McGregor's training camp leading up to the fight.

But the ruse gets pretty obvious when one observes the simple things Floyd chose not to do.

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For one, after deciding he wanted to spend the fight in McGregor's chest, Mayweather rarely bothered trying the elementary things boxers do to get inside. Namely, regularly jabbing, feinting and slipping. Simply walking forward with your hands up and your chin tucked while hardly throwing, as Mayweather did, is not how boxers close down distance.

Secondly, Mayweather didn't cut off the ring. Fighters get aggressively offensive for a few reasons: They realize their opponent needs time and space to work and they want to deny that time and space. They realize their opponent is tiring and looking for ways to rest and they want to deny opportunities for rest. Or, they realize their opponent doesn't have enough power to hurt them and so they want to get in range to get off their offense because they're not worried about being hit.

All three were true in Mayweather's case. He indeed walked McGregor down, but he did it in a way that was incredibly amateurish and inefficient. He literally followed McGregor around the ring in a circle. That's not how you apply pressure. You pursue at angles, move to where your opponent is going to be -- cut off the ring in order to trap your target. Mayweather merely trailed after McGregor, growing increasingly offensive as McGregor grew fatigued.

In other words, to believe what you were seeing is to believe Floyd all of a sudden no longer knew the basics of boxing.

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When Floyd Mayweather, left, walked into Conor McGregor's range, the MMA champion was able to land some punches. Joe Amon for ESPN
Now, it's true that there were obvious signs of slippage in Mayweather. His punches weren't as sharp or accurate as we've come to expect. Combine that fact with Mayweather walking forward in a straight line, and standing flat-footed as McGregor got off his weak, floppy, slapping punches, and you could, if you're naïve, get the impression that you were watching a contest.

And the misinformation campaign began during the fight itself, as various TV and online commentary started expressing their admiration for McGregor's ability. By the next day, a delusional consensus had formed.
Whether the majority of the commentary truly didn't understand what they had witnessed or felt in the immediate aftermath of the fight that the bout needed to be mythologized so as not to offend the probable record-breaking pay-per-view audience is unclear.

McGregor himself can be forgiven for the hilarious assertion that he was outboxing Mayweather early. With Floyd throwing 28 total punches in the first three rounds according to CompuBox, it might have felt that way to him. More bizarre was his assertion that he thought he hurt Floyd during the fight. When? And with what? The much talked-about uppercut that McGregor landed in Round 1 is illustrative. It was well timed and landed clean -- and had precisely zero effect on Mayweather.

None of this should make anyone upset. Together, the two men put on a performance that left the audience satisfied. But let's not pretend we got a better fight than we expected; there was no fight. What the two men delivered, or rather, what Mayweather was able to engineer, was the entertaining show he had promised all long.
 
Accurate and it worked. People felt it was a great fight and spent money to see Floyd lose. Then they get to see Conor as a risk taker who can do anything he sets his mind to. Dana White wasn't gonna have Floyd destroy his money maker in 2 rounds. He needs him for the future. This was the boxing version of WWE.
 
If I didn't know any better, I'd think this guy collected my comments about this "fight" and made an article out of it. The only line I'm so sure about is him saying Mayweather is not longer "elite." That can be debated. Everything else is right and exact.
Yeah...if we all agree Floyd was carrying dude, then there is no way to know whether or not Floyd is still elite based off that fight...would have to see Floyd in against a ranked, real boxer to know where Floyd stands today
 
Lol nah these are MY comments. This dude transcrplipted my brain lmao
Same here.

http://www.bgol.us/forum/index.php?threads/floyd-mayweather-the-goat-50-0.965489/page-2
Here's some of my quotes from the fight thread:
Whiteboys are fuming.
Even got the nerve to say boxing is dead... LMAO!
MMA will probably never draw the money boxing can. Not even 20 years from now.
It's the CFL and Boxing is the NFL.

Only retards seem to forget that Floyd is 40 yrs old.
If Floyd was 29 it would've been a completely different outcome.
Have McGregor fight Canelo!
I dare that muthaphucca to fight any of the young Boxers.
Bronner would destroy Mcgregor.
Hell, Canelo would beat Floyd at this age he's at right now.
40 is old!
Especially for a professional athlete.
Even more, especially for a boxer.


Ain't no hope.
Just Connor fighting an old man who's going to go down as the greatest when it's all said and done.

You obviously don't watch boxing to say that.
I've been watching all of Floyds fights and I know damn well the way he fought last night is totally different than the way he usually fights.

Why do you think CACs say he runs?!
Because he brings the fight to the opponents the way he did Connor?!
Dude, stop...
 
Bottomline is the best days of boxing are behind us. It's rear when you get to see the sweet science the way it used to be. This shit is merely a reason to get a bunch of friends together to party, at this point. It's a total shit show
 
Yeah...if we all agree Floyd was carrying dude, then there is no way to know whether or not Floyd is still elite based off that fight...would have to see Floyd in against a ranked, real boxer to know where Floyd stands today
Yep... carried Dude and anyone who understands boxing would admit this was a bullshit fight.

Also, at 40, Floyd is still an amazing fighter, but asst this stage in life he in my opinion would lose to The Spence's and Crawfords.... He could still beat a few of the B level fighters but the upper levels would be a big problem to the 40 year old Floyd.
 
Bottomline is the best days of boxing are behind us. It's rear when you get to see the sweet science the way it used to be. This shit is merely a reason to get a bunch of friends together to party, at this point. It's a total shit show
Boxing as with everything evolves with each generation. The same thing you said is said for music, other sports, etc. I don't think the beat days are behind us, just a new group of stars and superstars.

Now I do agree with you, but the shit shows aee really most of these over prices PPV's which don't deliver. The last 4-5 Mayweather pay per views were over priced and snooze fests, especially with the depleted in under cards with no real star power. We just need to get to a day were the best are fighting the best and boxing will be just fine....
 
Bottomline is the best days of boxing are behind us. It's rear when you get to see the sweet science the way it used to be. This shit is merely a reason to get a bunch of friends together to party, at this point. It's a total shit show
I disagree. There are some great fighters out there and they do great work. I do agree they aren't like the 70-90 fighters, you may never have an era loaded with fighters like that again, but the new guys ain't bad. Ain't bad at all. The article write is right on most of it, but to say Floyd has lost his elite status is crazy. If Floyd had been in the gym, like the reports say, the last two years, he hasn't lost much at all. However, a previous poster said they did not want to destroy the image of the MMA's cash cow. This is true. Floyd carried that bum. I wrote in a previous post that he could have KO him in the 6th. Go back and look at it. He fouled Floyd in that round and Floyd showed him he was fucking up. Started cracking him with some good shots. After that round, for sure, McGregor realized, he had fucked up.
 
Not just Floyd, but that horrible refereeing also allowed the fight to last 10 rounds.
Man, listen. I knew Mayweather was carrying McGregor and making the fight look like more of a contest than it actually was, but I couldn't figure out the fucking ref. Was he in on it or what??? There's NO WAY he would've allowed a boxer to do half that shit McGregor did. And, incredibly, McGregor fans complained that the ref was unfair to HIM! They're so used to MMA style refereeing, they swear dude got cheated. :confused:
 
Who do you think is gonna promote the next MMA/boxing fight? C'mon man. Most Al Hamon fighters don't have a promoter. Rather, they work with multiple peomoters. Now imagine an MMA/Boxing showcase under the Mayweather promotion with White.

Now these mofos believe they can fuck wit a boxer...lol. Sure Spence woulda said fuck it and killed him. But that woulda been it. Now White is probably willing to do it again.
 
Lets be clear Money is a huge name is boxing and Conor is a big name in MMA
but this was a spectacle circus boxing expedition.

It made causal observers interested in viewing this fight. When my mother-in-law
asked me if I was gonna watch the fight. Money Team & UFC did their job in
promoting the hell out of this spectacle.

Any unbiased combat sports fan i.e. boxing or mma can see that Money was in control
of this fight and he made it actually entertaining.

I will say Money vs Conor was more entertaining than the farce when Muhammad Ali fought Antonio Inoki and
Randy Corture vs James Toney
 
Who do you think is gonna promote the next MMA/boxing fight? C'mon man. Most Al Hamon fighters don't have a promoter. Rather, they work with multiple peomoters. Now imagine an MMA/Boxing showcase under the Mayweather promotion with White.

Now these mofos believe they can fuck wit a boxer...lol. Sure Spence woulda said fuck it and killed him. But that woulda been it. Now White is probably willing to do it again.

Stipe might try it. Diaz. Aldo. Honestly this was such a perfect storm it really won't make a difference. I can't see the money being there for any of this. Plus Conors mouth and his credentials in the ufc made this happen. None of those guys have it.
 
Lets be clear Money is a huge name is boxing and Conor is a big name in MMA
but this was a spectacle circus boxing expedition.

It made causal observers interested in viewing this fight. When my mother-in-law
asked me if I was gonna watch the fight. Money Team & UFC did their job in
promoting the hell out of this spectacle.

Any unbiased combat sports fan i.e. boxing or mma can see that Money was in control
of this fight and he made it actually entertaining.

I will say Money vs Conor was more entertaining than the farce when Muhammad Ali fought Antonio Inoki and
Randy Corture vs James Toney
Yup. All day.
 
Yep... carried Dude and anyone who understands boxing would admit this was a bullshit fight.

Also, at 40, Floyd is still an amazing fighter, but asst this stage in life he in my opinion would lose to The Spence's and Crawfords.... He could still beat a few of the B level fighters but the upper levels would be a big problem to the 40 year old Floyd.

He knows that. This is why he cashed out with the safest opponent he could find with the biggest name. Why risk his health and undefeated streak on someone like Spence for a fraction of the PPV money?

BTW - I see Pacquiao pulled out of the Jeff Horn fight. Don't be surprised is he tries to fight McGregor next year. He'll weight drain him to death first though. He likes fighting Floyd's leftovers at a disadvantage.
 
Not just Floyd, but that horrible refereeing also allowed the fight to last 10 rounds.

Kenny Bayless would have had NONE of that shit. Look at the difference between Mayweather/Maidana 1 and 2.

When Robert Garcia found out Bayless was the official in the second fight had to change his strategy at the last second because he knew they couldn't get away with the shit they were doing in the first fight.
 
He knows that. This is why he cashed out with the safest opponent he could find with the biggest name. Why risk his health and undefeated streak on someone like Spence for a fraction of the PPV money?

BTW - I see Pacquiao pulled out of the Jeff Horn fight. Don't be surprised is he tries to fight McGregor next year. He'll weight drain him to death first though. He likes fighting Floyd's leftovers at a disadvantage.
Lol you hit it on the head. Manny can't sell a fight to save his life tho.
 
He knows that. This is why he cashed out with the safest opponent he could find with the biggest name. Why risk his health and undefeated streak on someone like Spence for a fraction of the PPV money?

BTW - I see Pacquiao pulled out of the Jeff Horn fight. Don't be surprised is he tries to fight McGregor next year. He'll weight drain him to death first though. He likes fighting Floyd's leftovers at a disadvantage.
I'm no Pac fan, but that Horn loss was outrageous. I'm surprised he didn't avenge that shit, but I can see how it's probably not worth the title, time or money.
 
I'm no Pac fan, but that Horn loss was outrageous. I'm surprised he didn't avenge that shit, but I can see how it's probably not worth the title, time or money.

He said it was Senate obligations, but I don't think the interest in the fight was that high. Like @exiledking was saying, Manny can't sell fights. That is why Roach does the talking. That being said he needs the right dance partner and Horn ain't it.
 
You can't train a 29 year old man to become a boxer on the level of a lifelong boxer. Ya just can't.

I know. But if the last fight proved anything you just have to make the DCAFs think he has a chance. And his fan base is especially loyal and stupid.
 
I know. But if the last fight proved anything you just have to make the DCAFs think he has a chance. And his fan base is especially loyal and stupid.
Well ya have a point there lol. But if Manny gets his hand on that sauce again Conor may end up dead
I'd watch Paulie vs Conor WAY before that though. I'm campaigning for that.
 
Peace,

That was along the lines, of how I saw the fight.....

I'd been arguing with people about the fight for the entire week. They (cacs) truly want to believe that Conor Mcgregor is a heroic figure who performed admirably against a black bully. Keep in mind these same people were betting on that leprechaun simian to KO Floyd.
 
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