Mormont had the hilt changed to a Wolf for Jon.
I also think the hilt eye flash was just a lighting effect. but who knows
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I also think the hilt eye flash was just a lighting effect. but who knows
Maybe the men can get any women pregnant, but the women can't get pregnant unless it's by a Targeryan
Did the witch say that she could never have kids or that she would never have kids with her current husband? A small point to be made considering the dwarf asked her about bloodline succession.
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It's the sword of omens now.
Given that they been around for thousands of years, they easily could have scavenged the chains from anywhere. Didn't the giants have some huge chains they tied to the mammoths they used to try and pull the door down in Watchers on the Wall? Since they already have a bunch of giants in there dead army they probably have some of the supplies they had as well.
Edit: I went back and looked at that scene on youtube and they definitely had huge chains to hold the mammoths to the tunnel door.
Plus the whites don't need to swim, they just need to sink to the bottom and tie up the dragon with chains. At which point they can hold onto the chain to get back up or the Night King may just leave them down there as his army is huge.
I have looked at it a bunch of times. If you look at it when Jon is showing Jorah the sword, they are black at any angle. It goes back to black when he is out of the water. I just don't know how any lighting effect would turn it white like that especially for such a long an focused duration.
Especially with this show, I think they threw that in for some reason.
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It looks like the white walkers go off to kill people and then bring them back which is why the ones in the small groups died the moment Jon killed the WW that turned them.These zombies travel in one huge group and the magnificent 7 were so lucky to find a couple of them walking by themselves
I disagree.
- Dany conquered 3 major cities in Essos. (Astapor, Yunkai & Mereen).
- And they each 'fell to pieces' soon after she left... MOSTLY BECAUSE... she didn't make any of those Old Masters 'bend the knee'.
- She learned from her mistakes.Now she changing it up. Being more aggressive.
I can concede that point
- Tyrion didn't save Kings Landing 'all by himself'... Stannis was storming the beach (and winning
That is beside the point. The point is that GRMM was illustrating Tyrion's ability to use his superior wit in a tactical situation. This season throws that out of the window.
- Blame Tyrion & Jon for Dany refusing to march on Kings Landing. (Thats' EXACTLY what she wants to do.
No, I blame shitty writing and if you really think about it from a character's standpoint you would agree. They are keeping her from attacking King's Landing for no good reason.
[/QUOTE]- Jon Snow needs ALL the 'living people' to fight the Army of the Dead. (Including Cersei.
Again, shitty writing.
The only real advantage of valyrian steel is it stays sharp and can kill WW
WOW!!..ep 6 was amazin!!..damn this show get good in every episodes!!!..The night king has a dragon now!!.thats crazy!!.. also, i like how arya shooked her sister sansa ..let her know she can get her at any time!!..
Damn, I cant wait for next sunday!!!..it going to be epic!!
Damn, I cant wait for next sunday!!!..it going to be epic!!
The way fools are around here, you'll know what happens next week in a few days.
Look at it this way. Is it unfathomable that there may have been some long lengths if chain laying around somewhere beyond the wall over the past tens, hundreds, several thousand years? Honest answer would have to be no. Next; would it be unimaginable that the white walkers and their minions would have come across those chains and either taken them or taken note of where they saw them over those tens/hundreds/thousands of years? Honestly, no, right? Keep in mind also, that just in the past few years we have seen the white walkers take hard home so they'd have access to any shit laying around there (and any other villiages/refuges they have come across). They also have Craster as a walker now, and he lived and thrived beyond the wall... Craster's keep was burned but surely there was some stuff left laying around, and even other than that, Craster would also know the locations of stuff he happened to see laying around out beyond the wall over the years.
Now add to that the fact that we haven't really even seen the whole white walker army.... we got an idea of how huge it was last night, but you have to think they have some of their zombie minions in the back pulling supplies just like the magnificent 7 had their wildling minions pulling sleds of supplies when they left the gate.
So, although it may have been nice to see where they got the chains from for the sake of conversation, it's probably a detail they figured they wouldn't flesh out for any number of reasons... but it's not like it's totally unbelievable that these things that have been walking around for a long long time would have access to chains. Now, if next week, the NK rides up in an Escalade, that would be unbelievable and unfathomable.
I'm not saying that it's not a fair point what y'all are asking about the chains.... just that it's not unbelievable that they'd be able to get them.
Now add to that the fact that we haven't really even seen the whole white walker army.... we got an idea of how huge it was last night, but you have to think they have some of their zombie minions in the back pulling supplies just like the magnificent 7 had their wildling minions pulling sleds of supplies when they left the gate.
So, although it may have been nice to see where they got the chains from for the sake of conversation, it's probably a detail they figured they wouldn't flesh out for any number of reasons... but it's not like it's totally unbelievable that these things that have been walking around for a long long time would have access to chains. Now, if next week, the NK rides up in an Escalade, that would be unbelievable and unfathomable.
I'm not saying that it's not a fair point what y'all are asking about the chains.... just that it's not unbelievable that they'd be able to get them.
Good catch. I agree.
The ones he 'touches' probably gain some sort of 'undead intelligence'
Nk and ww use hive mind shit, take out one and a group falls. Mindless zombies would have just kept fallin into the water. They surrounded Jon and them, thats control.
I wonder what other powers will they show if they do.
He may be an emo looking dude but Jon is a White Walker serial killer.
Maybe it a stone and the glare happens
Tyrion showed bravery and resourcefulness at Blackwater, and he is the reason army there were able to sneak up behind Stannis' forces (the ones that made it to shore) and the reason they had fewer forces to fight (because he killed many out in the water).... so he gets full credit for that, but remember, the battle wasn't won; it was kind of at a even point with many dead on both sides and Tyrion severly injured and unconscious.... the Tywin's and Loras's group showed up and kind of ended the shit. So Tyrion held the fort down but didn't fully beat Stannis. He's really smart, but he's not a military man. Jamie is military so you'd have to expect that he'd be able to win some battles. Tyrion, as smart as he is, he's showing that he's not a general by taking some severe L's. He's learning though, and as smart as he is, I think (if hopefully dany keeps trusting him) he'll come through for her at some point in the war.
Going beyond he wall to kidnap a walker... well, nobody who hadn't been beyond the wall really believed him about the army of the dead, and he knows that all that shit going on south of the wall is for nothing if they don't get ready for what's coming from up north, and how else will they believe? Now, the fact that they're going to probably pus any trust in Cersei.... they need to be smacked around for that.
Going beyond he wall to kidnap a walker... well, nobody who hadn't been beyond the wall really believed him about the army of the dead, and he knows that all that shit going on south of the wall is for nothing if they don't get ready for what's coming from up north, and how else will they believe? Now, the fact that they're going to probably pus any trust in Cersei.... they need to be smacked around for that.
It would seem I'm not the only one thinking this.
http://time.com/4905892/game-of-thrones-daenerys-targaryen-kids-jon-snow/
In the book the witch tells Dany she will not have kids but the book and the show are not on the same accord. On the show the witch left out the part about her not being able to have kids.
I think that her and John will hook up before it's discovered he's her nephew and they will have a baby.
Game of Thrones: how this 7-year-old prophecy could affect Daenerys’ children
image: http://ksassets.timeincuk.net/wp/uploads/sites/55/2017/08/6_02_GameOfThrones_S07-1-920x584.jpg
Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister and Emilia Clarke as Daenerys Targaryen
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Mirri Maz Duur's magic made Daenerys infertile in season 1
Spoilers for Game of Thrones season 7 episode 6 follow.
Ever since season 1, when Daenerys sacrificed her unborn child in a ritual to try and save Khal Drogo’s life, we’ve known that she has been unable to bear children. As she keeps informing us throughout season 7, her dragons are the only children she will ever have. But are they?
Fans on Reddit have dug up a prophecy from the first season, which the vengeful maegi Mirri Maz Duur told Daenerys after she’d cunningly turned Drogo into a vegetable. Dany asked her when Drogo would get better, and Duur said: “When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before.”
We know that Drogo can’t physically return at this point – in desperation Dany smothered his vegetative body, then burnt him to a crisp in a funeral pyre – but fans are speculating that the prophecy is really referring to a new Drogo, Daenerys’ firstborn child, because they believe Daenerys’ is now able to have children again. And this is because of something else Duur told Dany: “Only death can pay for life“. Let’s go through the prophecy’s requirements one by one to see how it works.
1. When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east
Most fans take this to refer to Quentyn Martell, a book-only character who left his homeland of Dorne (in the west) and headed to Meereen (in the east) to offer his hand in marriage to Daenerys. When she left the city, he later died trying to steal one of her dragons which had been chained up in one of Meereen’s pyramids.
The Martell sigil is a sun, so if we take Quentyn as this sun, rising (or growing up) in the west and setting (dying) in the east, this part has been satisfied already.
2. When the seas go dry
In the final chapter of A Dance with Dragons, the most recent book in the series by George R.R. Martin, Daenerys is in a place called the Dothraki Sea and notices: “The grass was paler than she remembered, a wan and sickly green on the verge of going yellow. After that would come brown. The grass was dying.” Most fans agree this element of the prophecy is satisfied.
3. When mountains blow in the wind like leaves
This one is a point of contention. Some reckon it’s something to do with The Mountain finally meeting his end (having been resurrected by Cersei).
Others think it be to do with the pyramids of Meereen – in the books, Daenerys’ dragons completely destroyed them when they escaped captivity.
Alternatively, it could refer to the size of Daenerys’ enormous dragons. They fly about in the wind… a bit like leaves. It’s hard to say exactly what it could refer to, but it seems like here that where another few words from Mirri Maz Duur become important.
How Viserion’s death could change Dany’s life
As well as the above prophecy, Mirri Maz Duur told Daenerys “Only death can pay for life.”
One of Dany’s dragons, Viserion, who was killed in episode 6 of season 7, is as big a sacrifice as any. Fans think this is the final piece fulfilling Mirri Maz Duur’s prophecy that Daenerys will be able to conceive again, eventually giving birth to a child she’s going to call Drogo. Doing so would solve Tyrion’s concerns about the succession, which were emphasised in episode 7.
Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/game-thrones-daenerys-children-2126196#Ijvdwj3kOLLLK0rV.99
Also with the whole death for life only than will your womb quicken prophecy, Jon has died and as we have seen these last 2 episodes he has been making her womb quicken 
Yea I'm leaning towards them having a child.Game of Thrones: how this 7-year-old prophecy could affect Daenerys’ children
image: http://ksassets.timeincuk.net/wp/uploads/sites/55/2017/08/6_02_GameOfThrones_S07-1-920x584.jpg
Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister and Emilia Clarke as Daenerys Targaryen
i
Mirri Maz Duur's magic made Daenerys infertile in season 1
Spoilers for Game of Thrones season 7 episode 6 follow.
Ever since season 1, when Daenerys sacrificed her unborn child in a ritual to try and save Khal Drogo’s life, we’ve known that she has been unable to bear children. As she keeps informing us throughout season 7, her dragons are the only children she will ever have. But are they?
Fans on Reddit have dug up a prophecy from the first season, which the vengeful maegi Mirri Maz Duur told Daenerys after she’d cunningly turned Drogo into a vegetable. Dany asked her when Drogo would get better, and Duur said: “When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before.”
We know that Drogo can’t physically return at this point – in desperation Dany smothered his vegetative body, then burnt him to a crisp in a funeral pyre – but fans are speculating that the prophecy is really referring to a new Drogo, Daenerys’ firstborn child, because they believe Daenerys’ is now able to have children again. And this is because of something else Duur told Dany: “Only death can pay for life“. Let’s go through the prophecy’s requirements one by one to see how it works.
1. When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east
Most fans take this to refer to Quentyn Martell, a book-only character who left his homeland of Dorne (in the west) and headed to Meereen (in the east) to offer his hand in marriage to Daenerys. When she left the city, he later died trying to steal one of her dragons which had been chained up in one of Meereen’s pyramids.
The Martell sigil is a sun, so if we take Quentyn as this sun, rising (or growing up) in the west and setting (dying) in the east, this part has been satisfied already.
2. When the seas go dry
In the final chapter of A Dance with Dragons, the most recent book in the series by George R.R. Martin, Daenerys is in a place called the Dothraki Sea and notices: “The grass was paler than she remembered, a wan and sickly green on the verge of going yellow. After that would come brown. The grass was dying.” Most fans agree this element of the prophecy is satisfied.
3. When mountains blow in the wind like leaves
This one is a point of contention. Some reckon it’s something to do with The Mountain finally meeting his end (having been resurrected by Cersei).
Others think it be to do with the pyramids of Meereen – in the books, Daenerys’ dragons completely destroyed them when they escaped captivity.
Alternatively, it could refer to the size of Daenerys’ enormous dragons. They fly about in the wind… a bit like leaves. It’s hard to say exactly what it could refer to, but it seems like here that where another few words from Mirri Maz Duur become important.
How Viserion’s death could change Dany’s life
As well as the above prophecy, Mirri Maz Duur told Daenerys “Only death can pay for life.”
One of Dany’s dragons, Viserion, who was killed in episode 6 of season 7, is as big a sacrifice as any. Fans think this is the final piece fulfilling Mirri Maz Duur’s prophecy that Daenerys will be able to conceive again, eventually giving birth to a child she’s going to call Drogo. Doing so would solve Tyrion’s concerns about the succession, which were emphasised in episode 7.
Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/game-thrones-daenerys-children-2126196#Ijvdwj3kOLLLK0rV.99
It could
NAh, its not that. Remember she was pregnant with Khal Drogo's baby, but the witch sacrificed the baby to give Drogo life. That also ruined her ability to get pregnant.Maybe the men can get any women pregnant, but the women can't get pregnant unless it's by a Targeryan
Bloodraven (Melissa Blackwood) and Bittersteel (Barbara Bracken) were also bastards of Aegon IV, by two different women NOT Targaryan's. Rhaeger also had 3 kids with Ilya Martell before he got Lyanna pregnant. King Robert's grandmother is a Targaryan wed his grandfather. I could go on and on. Your theory has no premise
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