Serious question for Cavs and LeBron fans...

No doubt.. What was he doing before Bron and what he do after?
got blood clots after, was averaging 20 and 10 and taking an expansion teams to the playoffs b4 he met lebron..b4 he met lebron he pretty much was getting eliminated in the playoffs every yr like lebron..than when they teamed up he carried his sorry 3rd leading scoring in the final ass to a final
 
got blood clots after, was averaging 20 and 10 and taking an expansion teams to the playoffs b4 he met lebron..b4 he met lebron he pretty much was getting eliminated in the playoffs every yr like lebron..than when they teamed up he carried his sorry 3rd leading scoring in the final ass to a final
Thats the longest "nothing" ive ever seen typed my man.
 
Thats the longest "nothing" ive ever seen typed my man.
lebron was doin nothing b4 he met bosh to according to your logic... wade won a chip b4 he met lebron.. so 2 nothings met with 1 something and only won 2 rings even though 1 nothing guaranteed at least 4..that 1 nothing choked in the first finals
 
lebron was doin nothing b4 he met bosh to according to your logic... wade won a chip b4 he met lebron.. so 2 nothings met with 1 something and only won 2 rings even though 1 nothing guaranteed at least 4..that 1 nothing choked in the first finals
Leading bums to finals, winning MVPs, widely considered as best player in the game... Hes also won a title since he left Bosh and his bloodclots. Sorry.
 
Leading bums to finals, winning MVPs, widely considered as best player in the game... Hes also won a title since he left Bosh and his bloodclots. Sorry.
he got another crew of dudes who could score 20+ points and 1 who was doin 20 and 10 a game..he juss built another voltron team.. and kyrie saved lebron from disappointing cleveland again..jesus saved him from disappointing miami and kyrie saved him in cleveland..lebron bail out he got more bail outs than big bizz recieved in the first term for obama..nig already looking for another bailout for next season
 
he got another crew of dudes who could score 20+ points and 1 who was doin 20 and 10 a game..he juss built another voltron team..
Guys who were winning 20 games a year and the lottery without him.. You mean he rescued another bunch of fucking underachievers . Nigga go to sleep.
 
Guys who were winning 20 games a year and the lottery without him.. You mean he rescued another bunch of fucking underachievers . Nigga go to sleep.
they didn't have hall of famers like lebron did so yes they record wasn't that good..i mean if everybody started out with 2 20 point scorers on their team and a hall a famer coming off the bench they'd prob go to the finals to... b4 lebron voltron squads he went to the finals once and missed the playoffs twice.. the bailout teams made his career as far as post season look better than they are..other than that he'd be a great reg season player and that's it.. i kno ya hate facts but it's true..lebron was allergic to june
 
they didn't have hall of famers like lebron did so yes they record wasn't that good..
But its real good with Bronze tho aint it?? So was Wades, so was Bloodclot cuz, so was Boobie Gibson, Mo Williams....etc.... Notice a trend???
i kno ya hate facts but it's true..lebron was allergic to june
If he was allergic to june the rest of those guys were allergic to April-October.
 
But its real good with Bronze tho aint it?? So was Wades, so was Bloodclot cuz, so was Boobie Gibson, Mo Williams....etc.... Notice a trend???

If he was allergic to june the rest of those guys were allergic to April-October.
wade wasn't allergic.. anyway juss pointing out about the samethings u tried to shit on kobe about lebron did it better in the worst way..shooting percentage, turnovers, average points, and losing..plus lebron got bailed out in all 3 of his rings..lebronze amazingness is legendary..hopefully he tries to get another sweep in the finals to push his amazingness even more
 
Jason Terry and JJ beat 3 all Stars
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Trevor Ariza was the ex factor.


Along with Bynum


The lakers had a better supporting cast. Lamar, Shannon, Ron Ron


Cavs got ass.

Bum ass shump, JR playing like shit too

Bynum taking out Perkins was the factor. Folks tend to forget how easy it was for the Celts until that happened.
 
Bynum taking out Perkins was the factor. Folks tend to forget how easy it was for the Celts until that happened.
Not the old Perkins excuse again. The Celts were leading most of game 7 without perkins. They were playing good defense, kobe was struggling. They managed that without Perkins. He was not as big of a factor as people make it seem. If thats the case, the series is a sweep since Perkins played the first 4 games.

and it wasn't easy for Boston until that point, they lost the first game by 13. next excuse.
 
Kobe averaged 15 points a game in his first Finals and shot 36.7% from the field and 20.0% from 3point range. He got outplayed by Jalen Rose and Austin Croshere. :smh: Stop comparing a role player with 1 Finals MVP to a superstar with 3.

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Kobe averaged 15 points a game in his first Finals and shot 36.7% from the field and 20.0% from 3point range. He got outplayed by Jalen Rose and Austin Croshere. :smh: Stop comparing a role player with 1 Finals MVP to a superstar with 3.

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Austin and Kobe averaged 15. Kobe basically missed 2 games (played 9 minutes in one game). So how was he outplayed by Austin? And what does that have to do with the series being discussed? You didn't quote a anyone so I'm not sure why you are mentioning this particular series.

And based on your logic, in 2011 LeBron averaged 17.8 PPG. Terry averaged 18 PPG. So was LeBron outplayed by Terry?
 
Austin and Kobe Ng averaged 15. Kobe basically missed 2 games (played 9 minutes in one game). So he was he outplayed by Austin? And what does that have to do with the series being discussed? You didn't quote a anyone so I'm not sure why you are mentioning this particular series.

And based on your logic, in 2011 LeBron averaged 17.8 PPG. Terry averaged 18 PPG. So was LeBron outplayed by Terry?

Austin averaged as many points and more boards. His PER was higher. Kobe was TRASH that Finals and his team still won. If he showed up it would've been a sweep instead of 6 games. But the Lakers werent built around their role players, they were built around Shaq who did all the heavy lifting. His sidekicks Kobe, Rick Rox, & Derek Fisher were just a long for the ride. The 2 guys Kobe guarded (Reggie Miller & Jalen Rose) clearly outplayed him as well, why no mention of them? That makes 3 out of his 7 Finals he was outplayed by an opposing wing player (2000 Miller, Rose, 2004 Billups, Hamilton, 2008 Pierce, Allen). All yall talk about is 2011 cuz LeBron's Finals the last 6 years are better than even Jordans. Kobe is no comparison whatsoever
 
Austin averaged as many points and more boards. His PER was higher. Kobe was TRASH that Finals and his team still won. If he showed up it would've been a sweep instead of 6 games. But the Lakers werent built around their role players, they were built around Shaq who did all the heavy lifting. His sidekicks Kobe, Rick Rox, & Derek Fisher were just a long for the ride. The 2 guys Kobe guarded (Reggie Miller & Jalen Rose) clearly outplayed him as well, why no mention of them? That makes 3 out of his 7 Finals he was outplayed by an opposing wing player (2000 Miller, Rose, 2004 Billups, Hamilton, 2008 Pierce, Allen). All yall talk about is 2011 cuz LeBron's Finals the last 6 years are better than even Jordans. Kobe is no comparison whatsoever
You mentioned Jalen and Austin. Why would I throw Reggie in it? How would it have been a sweep if Kobe got injured in game 2? Pacers won game 3 when Kobe didn't play.

You going to answer my question about LeBron and Terry?
 
These Kobe-Lebron Bgol debates never cease to amaze me. Y'all would have a ni99a who doesn't know shit about basketball thinking they're not both top 10 all-time players.
 
Not the old Perkins excuse again. The Celts were leading most of game 7 without perkins. They were playing good defense, kobe was struggling. They managed that without Perkins. He was not as big of a factor as people make it seem. If thats the case, the series is a sweep since Perkins played the first 4 games.

and it wasn't easy for Boston until that point, they lost the first game by 13. next excuse.

Yeah because even though History pretty much shows no one has ever won shit losing a starter your ass thinks otherwise. Get off the stage Bruh.
 
Yeah because even though History pretty much shows no one has ever won shit losing a starter your ass thinks otherwise. Get off the stage Bruh.
But can you refute anything I said? You said if they had Perkins they win. They had Perkins in the first game and lost by 13. No Perkins in game 7, double digits lead and leading most of the game. Next excuse.
 
But can you refute anything I said? You said if they had Perkins they win. They had Perkins in the first game and lost by 13. No Perkins in game 7, double digits lead and leading most of the game. Next excuse.
people seem to forget bynum got injured and didn't even play in the first finals with lakers vs celtics in 2008..nobody wants to discredit the celtics for winning that chip but want to discredit the lakers cause perkins went down in game 7
 
wade wasn't allergic
Wade was lottery scum and first round rape victim before Bron. Try again.
anyway juss pointing out about the samethings u tried to shit on kobe about lebron did it better in the worst way..
When you gonna point it out then??I already told you Bron was leading his team in every statistical category, was the undisputed best player on every team he ever played for and hasnt spent a day of his prime in the lottery or below 2nd seed for that matter. Try again.
plus lebron got bailed out in all 3 of his rings.
Dont know bout that... Know he never had Shaq or Pau coattail to ride tho... Know he was the best player in every finals series he ever played in. Tobe usually wasnt even the best player on his fucking team. Try again.
 
Wade was lottery scum and first round rape victim before Bron. Try again.

When you gonna point it out then??I already told you Bron was leading his team in every statistical category, was the undisputed best player on every team he ever played for and hasnt spent a day of his prime in the lottery or below 2nd seed for that matter. Try again.

Dont know bout that... Know he never had Shaq or Pau coattail to ride tho... Know he was the best player in every finals series he ever played in. Tobe usually wasnt even the best player on his fucking team. Try again.
how was he the best player in the finals when he was the 3rd leading scorer on his team in the mavs series?? hell he was like number 5 or 6 in scoring overall in that finals..he was outscored by bosh...he averaged 4 to's a game, shot 60 percent from the free throw and shot like 40 something percent try again..ya lebron lovers like to hide from facts..he also shot 35 percent from the field in his first final appearance and averaged 4 tos.. once again that's 2 finals he played shitty in
 
Wade was lottery scum and first round rape victim before Bron. Try again.

When you gonna point it out then??I already told you Bron was leading his team in every statistical category, was the undisputed best player on every team he ever played for and hasnt spent a day of his prime in the lottery or below 2nd seed for that matter. Try again.

Dont know bout that... Know he never had Shaq or Pau coattail to ride tho... Know he was the best player in every finals series he ever played in. Tobe usually wasnt even the best player on his fucking team. Try again.
actually lebron did have shaq 1 yr but that experiment failed, he had boozer on his squad and couldn't get him to the playoffs, he finally won a chip when he had 3 all stars 2 certified hall of famers(ray and wade) and an all star by the name of bosh help his ass..ray hit a big shot to keep that series alive..bron missed it and bosh grabbed that reb and dish it to jesus to save lebron from failing his team again..lebron bail out.. kyrie saved him last yr to.. the bail out plan in effect...if lebron was usain bolt he would need a 3 sec headstart, need his comp to be blindfolded and forced to run backwards barefooted in order to win..that's the lebron clause and bailout plan..im the so called best but i need help and everything to go my way and win
 
how was he the best player in the finals when he was the 3rd leading scorer on his team in the mavs series?? hell he was like number 5 or 6 in scoring overall in that finals..he was outscored by bosh...he averaged 4 to's a game, shot 60 percent from the free throw and shot like 40 something percent try again..ya lebron lovers like to hide from facts..he also shot 35 percent from the field in his first final appearance and averaged 4 tos.. once again that's 2 finals he played shitty in
Bron led the team in all categories that postseason... Was the best player in the league that season... and led that series in rebounds, assists, steals, and had the toughest defense assignments.. Arguing he was the best player on that team is horse shit.
 
Bron led the team in all categories that postseason... Was the best player in the league that season... and led that series in rebounds, assists, steals, and had the toughest defense assignments.. Arguing he was the best player on that team is horse shit.
the team with the most points at the end of the game always win..nobody gives a fuck about your assist if ur ass can't make buckets or has 4 turnovers a game..tough assignment would've been dirk and well old man dirk average 27 that finals so how good was lebron really stopping him..1 min ya saying pao and ron saved kobe now when it comes to lebron fails it's he had some assist and rebs don't pay attention to his weak scoring that series..bwahaaa lebron fans love grading that nig with a curve
 
actually lebron did have shaq 1 yr but that experiment failed, he had boozer on his squad and couldn't get him to the playoffs,
He had a 400lb, 38 year old should have been retired Shaq. Had Boozer his rookie year out of fucking high school... And when has Booz ever been more than just a guy to a decent player anyway? Now you're just saying stupid shit.
 
He had a 400lb, 38 year old should have been retired Shaq. Had Boozer his rookie year out of fucking high school... And when has Booz ever been more than just a guy to a decent player anyway? Now you're just saying stupid shit.
nah ya like to grade ole boy with a curve..u tried to shit on bosh and say what he did without lebron..well he was ringless juss like him..wade had 1..u try to shit on them both like they both weren't all stars or wasn't putting up 20 plus without him.than when i show you that he was number 3 on that squad in the finals and the weakest link u wanna talk about rebs and assist..yet kobe led his team in points and ya want to make it seem like ron and gasol carried him..u see how funny style ya nigs sound when grading lebronze..u talking about previous series that yr to avoid talking about lebron failure in the finals.. when u tried to shit on kobe and say he shot subpar 40 percent and had to's i pointed it out that so did lebron vs the mavs but u try to turn the blind eye to that to..kinda funny the curve system nigs need to grade lebron
 
Bron didn't lead them in defense, or else his counterparts wouldn't have won fmvp twice. Can a third be on the horizon?
 
Bron didn't lead them in defense, or else his counterparts wouldn't have won fmvp twice. Can a third be on the horizon?

Which 1 averaged over 20 points? Reggie and Jalen averaged over 20 versus Kobe. Rip and Chauncey averaged over 20 versus Kobe. Pierce and Allen averaged over 20 vs Kobe.
 
Which 1 averaged over 20 points? Reggie and Jalen averaged over 20 versus Kobe. Rip and Chauncey averaged over 20 versus Kobe. Pierce and Allen averaged over 20 vs Kobe.
Reply to my previous comment to you. Thanks.
 
Which 1 averaged over 20 points? Reggie and Jalen averaged over 20 versus Kobe. Rip and Chauncey averaged over 20 versus Kobe. Pierce and Allen averaged over 20 vs Kobe.
Did Reggie, rip or Ray win fmvp? Those were kobes assignments. Why did Terry average more than LeBron? Why is 20 the limit? In 2010 neither Ray or Paul averaged 20. But Kobe did.
 
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