2016-2017 NBA Playoffs is finally here..Spurs vs Dubs (0-4), Cavs vs Celtics(4-1)

Kyrie/LeBron/Love/Thompson >>>> 2012-2013 Bosh/LeBron/Wade/Haslem in my opinion

Looking at Chalmers as a starter, and throw in the rest of the supporting case I still go with this version of the Cavs...


This cavs squad is tough...
If Lue could find minutes for Walter & Derrick next year...they really gonna be deep!!! That's 12 deep assuming Deron and Kyle return...

I think next year they could challenge for 70 wins if they stay healthy
 
He is most likely ducking the Cavs at this point and smart move why just look bad for the next two games his hip might hurt a little bit but at this point there why risk a more serious injury playing to lose the next 2?

I do not know. If he can go he should go though. He might not be back depending on who the celtics draft with the 1st pick.

Tough break nonetheless he had a season nobody thought he'd have would like for him to finish it on the court.
 
he was there for every bit of 20 seconds.......butt hurt and salty as fuck
:lol::roflmao::lol::roflmao::lol::roflmao:

I would be butt hurt too because GS is high on the moist level sending out ZaZa weak ass to take two steps forward so Kawih can land on his already fucked up ankle that game would have been lost if not for that bitch shit they pulled.

That's why LeBron, Westbrook and other future Hofer's don't like Steph and that team they very good but just moist.
 
I do not know. If he can go he should go though. He might not be back depending on who the celtics draft with the 1st pick.

Tough break nonetheless he had a season nobody thought he'd have would like for him to finish it on the court.

IT ain't going nowhere they need to give that pick up for Blake, Butler or another well rounded all-star IT can strive with the right players and system around him, he a beast but with that roster he on currently you can't hide his height, AI could take over a game at his height I don't know if IT can develop that consistently.
 
IT ain't going nowhere they need to give that pick up for Blake, Butler or another well rounded all-star IT can strive with the right players and system around him, he a beast but with that roster he on currently you can't hide his height, AI could take over a game at his height I don't know if IT can develop that consistently.

IT is not AI so no he can't develop that AI is a generational player idk if IT is that.
Now I don't know what they do but he can't be the best player on your team.
 
This dude said overrated
Overrated by him...
This cavs squad is tough...
If Lue could find minutes for Walter & Derrick next year...they really gonna be deep!!! That's 12 deep assuming Deron and Kyle return...

I think next year they could challenge for 70 wins if they stay healthy
The Cavs will never be a high win regular season team... Its like they use the regular season to work on things, playing their defense slower but fussing on the rotations responsibilities and when the post season comes they are basically doing the same things but two times faster and harder.
 
IT ain't going nowhere they need to give that pick up for Blake, Butler or another well rounded all-star IT can strive with the right players and system around him, he a beast but with that roster he on currently you can't hide his height, AI could take over a game at his height I don't know if IT can develop that consistently.

I really wish you Dudes would stop mentioning Iversons name in the same breath as IT's! Dude is NOT in Iverson's class on any level! Motherfucker had ONE good season, and now he's comparable to a first ballot HOF'er!?!?! Dude is more of a damn Dana Barros than fucking Iverson... FOH!! :lol:
 
IT is not AI so no he can't develop that AI is a generational player idk if IT is that.
Now I don't know what they do but he can't be the best player on your team.[/QUOTEI

IT could definite benefit more with a Mello or Hayward on his team he needs another bonafide stud I think they trade that pick I don't see any future Anthony Davis, Giannis, or Westbrooks in this class but that's hard to predict though
 
I really wish you Dudes would stop mentioning Iversons
name in the same breath as IT's! Dude is NOT in Iverson's class on any level! Motherfucker had ONE good season, and now he's comparable to a first ballot HOF'er!?!?! Dude is more of a damn Dana Barros than fucking Iverson... FOH!! :lol:

Well it's just the height and the position they play, IT got game he ain't a first ballot Hofer yet but the potential is there with the right pieces around him, Kyrie is short and very talented the Cavs wasn't shit till LBJ came back and took Kyries game to the next level without Lebron and Love Kyrie would just score 40 a night and never make the playoffs like he was doing. Now he might win MVP one day.
 
Well it's just the height and the position they play, IT got game he ain't a first ballot Hofer yet but the potential is there with the right pieces around him, Kyrie is short and very talented the Cavs wasn't shit till LBJ came back and took Kyries game to the next level without Lebron and Love Kyrie would just score 40 a night and never make the playoffs like he was doing. Now he might win MVP one day.
Well when/if he does all those things, then he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as AI... Right now, it's disrespectful as fuck is all I'm saying... He's had ONE good season, ONE... and he's flamed out like a sonofabitch.. AI AVERAGED damn near 30 ppg for his playoff career... IT not even in the discussion, and hasn't shown he has the skills to reach even close to that level... Lil Niggas is one dimensional as fuck and stays getting abused and is defensive liability. On the other hand, AI stayed at the top of the league in steals, etc. during his prime and was a two way player. IT is a midget ass gunner who it appears the league or at least the playoff teams have figured out.. May be a one his wonder as much as he could be a good player...
 
Well when/if he does all those things, then he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as AI... Right now, it's disrespectful as fuck is all I'm saying... He's had ONE good season, ONE... and he's flamed out like a sonofabitch.. AI AVERAGED damn near 30 ppg for his playoff career... IT not even in the discussion, and hasn't shown he has the skills to reach even close to that level... Lil Niggas is one dimensional as fuck and stays getting abused and is defensive liability. On the other hand, AI stayed at the top of the league in steals, etc. during his prime and was a two way player. IT is a midget ass gunner who it appears the league or at least the playoff teams have figured out.. May be a one his wonder as much as he could be a good player...

AGREED!

IT has a way to go if the road does not crumble under him
 
AGREED!

IT has a way to go if the road does not crumble under him
Thats all I'm saying Big Guy... Dude had a good season cool! I don't really think he deserved anything about 3rd team All NBA because he doesn't play defense but hey... I'm really not all that impressed with him really, I don't respect Dudes who only put real effort into the offensive side of the ball... Same thing with Harden which is why I don't think of him as an MVP...
 
Well when/if he does all those things, then he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as AI... Right now, it's disrespectful as fuck is all I'm saying... He's had ONE good season, ONE... and he's flamed out like a sonofabitch.. AI AVERAGED damn near 30 ppg for his playoff career... IT not even in the discussion, and hasn't shown he has the skills to reach even close to that level... Lil Niggas is one dimensional as fuck and stays getting abused and is defensive liability. On the other hand, AI stayed at the top of the league in steals, etc. during his prime and was a two way player. IT is a midget ass gunner who it appears the league or at least the playoff teams have figured out.. May be a one his wonder as much as he could be a good player...

AI was NOT a 2 way player. He was a defensive liability like IT because of his size and had to be hidden. How many defensive teams did he make? :lol: @you using steals to overplay his defensive prowess. Guess that means Stockton is the greatest defender of all time. :smh: They posted his little ass up just like IT.
 
AI was NOT a 2 way player. He was a defensive liability like IT because of his size and had to be hidden. How many defensive teams did he make? :lol: @you using steals to overplay his defensive prowess. Guess that means Stockton is the greatest defender of all time. :smh: They posted his little ass up just like IT.

Yeah, all of those teams are the true measure of how a player plays. The voting is always on point, just take for example LeBron not being in the top 3 MVP voting, or not being a unanimous First Team All NBA player. These guys always get it right. And if getting steals was so easy, EVERY player would average 2-3 a game.

But hey AI was obviously dominated on the defensive end, the voting media proved it... FOH. Get back to your @RoadRage I can out troll you debate lil fella... I'm done with you on this one! :lol: :rolleyes:
 
Yeah, all of those teams are the true measure of how a player plays. The voting is always on point, just take for example LeBron not being in the top 3 MVP voting, or not being a unanimous First Team All NBA player. These guys always get it right. And if getting steals was so easy, EVERY player would average 2-3 a game.

But hey AI was obviously dominated on the defensive end, the voting media proved it... FOH. Get back to your @RoadRage I can out troll you debate lil fella... I'm done with you on this one! :lol: :rolleyes:

Weak. Like I said, AI playing 2 guard at 5'11 was a defensive liability and got posted up REGULARLY. Using his "steals" that he got sagging off into passing lanes to call him a 2 way player is weak as fuck. Since the voters robbed him off his defensive accolades, quick, tell me who the fuck he shut down?
 
Cavs are playing like the perfect team during perfect playoff run
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Before the Eastern Conference finals began --- hours before the Boston Celtics fell behind by as many as 28 points in their Game 1 loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers and days before Boston trailed by as many as 50 in Cleveland's Game 2 romp -- Celtics coach Brad Stevens offered some pretty heady praise for his opponent.

"This is a perfect roster with regard to how many predicaments they can put you in with all the shooting around [LeBron James]," Stevens said. "You never want to double when you have that much shooting because eventually, like I said, they're going to find a good shot. If not, they're going to get the rebound."

Never mind the fact that the Cavs were the No. 2 seed and the Celtics had home court thanks to the No. 1 record in the East. Forget about the Celtics being younger and ostensibly hungrier, having zero players on their team with championship experience. The Cavs, in Stevens' eye, were capable of perfection.

Cleveland's roster construction begins with James, of course, a player so special, so versatile, so commanding that general manager David Griffin refers to him as "cheat code." As in, sometimes it's simply unfair to have him on your side.

His averages through Cleveland's 10-0 postseason start are almost surreal: 34.3 points on 56.9 percent shooting (45.8 percent from 3), 8.5 rebounds, 7.1 assists, 2.3 steals and 1.5 blocks per game.

He is the engine, the Swiss Army knife, the queen on the chessboard, gifting Cavs coach Tyronn Lue with endless lineup possibilities because of the sheer amount of positions he can provide: small forward, stretch forward, back-to-the-basket big, point guard, point forward, defensive rover, defensive ballhawk, etc.

James is flanked by Kyrie Irving, perfectly suited to take turns with James dissecting the defense when he gets one-on-one coverage; and Kevin Love, a floor spacer so respected that he gives James and Irving the requisite room to attack, yet so skilled that he can also create as a passer or a scorer when the offense is initiated through him. They all make each other that much more dangerous when the defense chooses to key in on one individual.

"How do you not pay extra close attention to the best player in the world?" Stevens said of James. "And with the way Kyrie has scored the ball on the biggest stage over and over and over, and with his ability, there's another one that you have to react to over and over. So there are all kinds of issues with defending them."

Dangerous, sure. Potent, absolutely. But perfect? The team that was wildly inconsistent in the regular season and even showed signs of vulnerability as recently as the first round of the playoffs?

"Well, that's a huge compliment, but there's no such thing for us," James said of Stevens' assessment. "We don't have a perfect roster. We don't have a perfect team. But we can make up for mistakes, and we can make up for maybe some deficiencies that we may have because we communicate, we fly around and we sacrifice for one another. That could put us as close to perfection as possible, which you can't ever get to. But our communication level, our sacrifice, what we give to each other every night kind of covers that, kind of covers some of the faults that we may have. And with the faults that we do have, we try to get better and better at it so we can be as great as we can be every single night."

Is James being modest or is Stevens simply fawning? Irving told ESPN's Adam Amin this week, "This is hands down probably going to be the best team I'll ever play with," and while Irving can be prone to hyperbole, Cavs veteran James Jones, who has already played on three championship teams, backed him up.

"Not just from a personnel standpoint, but also from a personality, from a character standpoint," Jones said of what makes the 2017 Cavs as good as any team he's been on. "We all mesh well, we're all complementary, and we're all winners. And that is a big part of why we look so good and we mesh so well on the floor, because socially and mentally, we're very similar."

Cleveland's payroll, cha-chinging in at around $128 million plus the luxury tax, would naturally afford a team loaded with talent. But it's the nature of the talent beyond the Big 3 -- defensive-minded players such as Tristan Thompson and Iman Shumpert; offensive-minded threats such as Kyle Korver, Deron Williams and Channing Frye; and guys who excel at both at various times in J.R. Smith and Richard Jefferson -- that gives the Cavs so many permutations.

"You can play a whole bunch of different type of styles," said Dahntay Jones. "So, like, you can play big, you can play small, you can play fast, you can play athletic with 1 through 15. And every time, if the game needs something else, we can always go to that. We can get in foul trouble and still have defenders to wear people down -- different types of defenders for different people. We've got guys that can play multiple positions. Like, we can change the game at any point and time, and I think that's what he's talking about to where if they go to a counter, we can counter that with something different and put you in a different pickle where, 'They're trying to take one thing away? OK, we have another strength on another side as well.'"

And what's the feeling when you're say, oh, I don't know, a team like Boston that can't claim the same versatility and is aware of its limitations?

"It's not helpless, but you feel like you got to play perfect because you know that you cannot play a certain way or compensate for a certain type of play that the other team is being dominant in so you feel like you have to kind of not make mistakes," said Dahntay Jones. "But here, it's like, we're always going to make mistakes, but we're going to play hard regardless. We're always going to communicate, we're going to play defense and then we can adjust accordingly. We try to keep everybody ready so when it's time to adjust it's like, pow, you stay ready so you don't have to get ready."

A win Sunday to go up 3-0 in the conference finals would give the Cavs the longest postseason winning streak at 14 games, breaking a tie with the 1988-89 Los Angeles Lakers. That's certainly one measure of perfection. Another would be besting what they did in Game 2, when the Cavs set all-time records for the largest halftime lead in a playoff game (41), for the largest win of James' career (counting both regular season and the playoffs), the largest win in franchise playoff history and the biggest defeat against a No. 1 seed in NBA playoff history.

"We're just continually trying to seek and find that perfect game," James Jones said. "And it sounds so cliché, but for us, there's a true belief that we can get there and that's the most empowering thing, the thought that you can have as a collective group."
 
Weak. Like I said, AI playing 2 guard at 5'11 was a defensive liability and got posted up REGULARLY. Using his "steals" that he got sagging off into passing lanes to call him a 2 way player is weak as fuck. Since the voters robbed him off his defensive accolades, quick, tell me who the fuck he shut down?
Yeah Iverson was a defensive liability in which his team covered up his mistakes. Heck, he even admits that his teammates would cover up his inability to play defense
 
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