Official NBA 2016-2017 Thread - 30 teams, 1 goal. 2 weeks left, so much can happen!!

Assessing the Cavaliers at the All-Star break
CLEVELAND -- The Cavaliers closed out their pre-All-Star break slate with a tidy 113-104 victory Wednesday over the Indiana Pacers, their seventh win in eight games since the calendar turned to February.

A season that started with ring night and the euphoria of the Cleveland Indians' World Series run, has had its share of drama despite the Cavs' command of the Eastern Conference standings, up 2½ games on second-place Boston.

Let's list it, shall we?

  • J.R. Smith's contract holdout lasting most of training camp.

  • Mo Williams pulling the rug out from under their backup-point-guard plans by not reporting to camp then undergoing surgery without consulting with the team, which made him difficult to trade.

  • Smith walking off the court in the middle of a live possession against the Bucks to say hello to Jason Terry and then wearing a ski mask during his postgame interview.

  • The three-game losing streak in late November/early December promptingLeBron James to say "we’ve got to get out of the honeymoon stage."

  • Smith undergoing surgery after breaking the thumb on his shooting hand in December.

  • Chris "Birdman" Andersen undergoing season-ending (and potentially career-ending) surgery to repair a torn ACL.

  • Losing to both the Golden State Warriors (by 35) and the San Antonio Spurs in the span of six days in January.

  • James calling for roster adjustments in January, including the addition of a "playmaker."

  • James dropping his seemingly annual cryptic tweet in late January.

  • The Cavs finishing the month of January with a 7-8 record.

  • Kevin Love undergoing arthroscopic surgery on his left knee this week, keeping him out of the All-Star Game and sidelining him for an estimated six weeks.

  • James at the center of controversy for when he does rest (the "forfeit" game in Memphis) and for when he doesn't (his league-leading minutes-per-game average as a 14-year veteran has rattled some cages).
Of course, that list fails to mention James, Love and Kyrie Irving all playing well enough to be named All-Stars. Or the team's honor of being the last NBA title-winner to visit the White House while President Barack Obama was in office. Or their Christmas Day win over the Warriors thanks to Irving's clutch jumper. Or their 7-1 record against the teams currently seeded Nos. 2-5 in the East. Or the addition of Kyle Korver, who is shooting 52-for-101 from 3-point territory since joining the Cavs. Or, on a 10-day contract, the find of the century in Derrick Williams, who has completely revolutionized Cleveland's second unit as a big, floor-spacing offensive machine and switch-everything defensive group.

Mix it all together and there was a pretty sunny outlook from the Cavs as they dispersed from the Q on Wednesday for a week off.

"This is the way we wanted to play coming into February and the guys are excellent so far in this month," said James, continuing his personal hot streak by going 12-for-17 from the field, lifting his February shooting percentage to 63.4. "It sucks because we have a great rhythm right now and you hate to have the break. But the break is going to be good for everybody. It gives guys an opportunity if they have some nicks and bruises and things of that nature. Just get away and decompress for a little bit, but we've been playing some good basketball."

For Cavs coach Tyronn Lue -- as hoop-obsessed as they come -- reaching that level of good basketball has involved letting go in ways that can be uncomfortable for a young coach.

"My biggest thing is if you're going to play guys [extended] minutes," Lue said, "then practice has to be cut down. So, we don't do a lot of practicing. We try to save our legs. So, we do walk-throughs defensively, guys get their shots up, we're out of there."

Out of there, and off to the races, it would seem.

"I think everyone is in a comfortable place," Irving said. "It just takes time. It takes time to integrate another guy into the team, to fill in a particular thing that we're looking for. Our identity was all over the place, guys were going down, guys were in and out of the lineup. It was a learning experience in January; coming into February we're just a great team again by all accounts. We've stayed the course and understood that everything that happens in this locker room all matters to us and we're completely honest and trust each other. When we're playing at a high level, we're tough to beat."

It's tough to say just yet what it all means to the Cavs' chances to repeat.

"I haven't really put too much on the title defense," James said. "Every year is its own year and you can't worry about last year. Last year is over and done with. We've played some good ball. Obviously we know January wasn't such a good month for us, but overall, for the season, we're in a good place."

And some of the Cavs, like Lue, are using the break to escape to an even better place. As the coach walked out of his postgame news conference, he paraphrased longtimeChicago Bulls assistant coach Johnny Bach.

"It's a good day to die," Lue said with a smile.

And certainly a good day to have the noise from the first half of the season to die down a little bit before the volume kicks back up again in a week.
 
Not really going in everything I said actually happened.
going in would be speculating on his future value-which I'm not. but everything I said in that post is what's been happening this season.


Yea i kinda watch them somewhat...
Your comments was pretty much on point
 
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Wizards still owning. Bobby Portis out there stealing the Celtics lunch money.

Always thought dude had talent. But unfortunately he's stuck at the bottom of a rotation...with a bad team, system etc.
 
Inconsistent as fuck
might play good 1 half of a game
then go back to putrid
then dealing with injuries and resting and shit while melo suiting up every night lol

Isn't he a second year pro lol? Everyone knew he was a project. He's some years away though he's ahead of the curve if he can get healthy.
 
Isn't he a second year pro lol? Everyone knew he was a project. He's some years away though he's ahead of the curve if he can get healthy.

he's not ahead nor behind
but the unicorn controlled the hype machine as ny is prone to do
and now everybody crickets
its always wait and see but they were ready to ship everybody out and build around him and we don't know what he's going to be.
 
he's not ahead nor behind
but the unicorn controlled the hype machine as ny is prone to do
and now everybody crickets
its always wait and see but they were ready to ship everybody out and build around him and we don't know what he's going to be.
Naw he's ahead. I seen what Dirk looked like his first year and how Porziangas looks? He was more impressive his rookie campaign. I don't know what he will become but him and Embiid with their skill sets at that size......unreal.

I don't know if he's better than Melo....he's a better all around player. Melo the better scorer.
 
Naw he's ahead. I seen what Dirk looked like his first year and how Porziangas looks? He was more impressive his rookie campaign. I don't know what he will become but him and Embiid with their skill sets at that size......unreal.

I don't know if he's better than Melo....he's a better all around player. Melo the better scorer.

glad you mentioned him cause sixers were ready to deal okafor then embid went embid....
 
Smart is a smart dummy. You don't put your hands in that vicinity. Put the ref in that situation. In between the arms. That's what his attention whoring ass gets. Foul.
 
Smart is a smart dummy. You don't put your hands in that vicinity. Put the ref in that situation. In between the arms. That's what his attention whoring ass gets. Foul.
Wasn't a foul. No ref makes that call at that point in the game.
glad you mentioned him cause sixers were ready to deal okafor then embid went embid....

Probably because them deals were ass.
 
Wasn't a foul. No ref makes that call at that point in the game.


Probably because them deals were ass.

Wasn't a foul when you have it in slow motion. But in real time, on the road, it's going to be called. You can't put the ref in that situation, closing seconds.

Smart tried to be cute and toy with his elbow area. On some psych shit. Those elbow fouls or non fouls get called all the time. It was a dumb move.

Like when kids say "don't touch me." And the other kid holds his finger close to his face, "I ain't touching you though." Cost his team the game.:smh:
 
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DeMarcus Cousins 'very happy' with Kings, hopes to sign extension
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NEW ORLEANS -- DeMarcus Cousinssays he intends to sign an extension with the Kings this summer, because he wants his "legacy to end in Sacramento" and his "jersey to be in the rafters in Sacramento."

In an interview with SportsCenter on Thursday, the All-Star center said he considered Sacramento to be his home after seven years in the NBA.

"I'm very happy," Cousins said. "It's where I want to be."

Cousins can sign a five-year extension worth up to $219 million this summer.

Although his tenure in Sacramento has been marred by constant regime changes -- Dave Joerger is the sixth coach he has played for in seven seasons -- Cousins says he feels confident in the direction of the franchise going forward, or at least confident enough to sign an extension.

"I think we're on the right path this season," Cousins said. "We're playing the best basketball of the season so far. Our team is extremely confident. We believe we can make this push and make it happen. We've been preaching it all year. It's on us to make it happen."

Cousins acknowledged the trust issues that have hurt his relationship with Kings management in the past but said he has found a way of dealing with it.

"I'm a guy that's all about loyalty and honesty," he said. "It's hard, but at the end of the day you gotta remember that this is a business. Your expectations can't be too high when it comes to trust and loyalty. I realize that. I know it's a business. At the end of the day I'm not always shocked. It still catches me off guard sometimes, but I'm not shocked."

Whom does he trust?

"I trust my circle. My family, my friends. [Former Kentucky teammates]John Wall and Eric Bledsoe," he said. "[Trust] is hard to come by. It's a rare quality these days. You're not going to find a lot of loyal people. These days it's all about self. When you can find those people are all about the next person and showing love no matter what the next situation is, you gotta keep them close."
 
76ers' Joel Embiid 'more surprised' than anyone by 2016-17 success
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  • ESPN.com

NEW ORLEANS -- Joel Embiid told ESPN Radio on Thursday that winning the NBA Rookie of the Year Award would represent a huge step in lifting him out of the "bad place" he had reached while missing his first two seasons with the 76ers due to injury.

Speaking to ESPN Radio's Meet The All-Stars Show that will air Saturday at 5:30 p.m. ET, Embiid told hosts Marc Kestecher and Marc Stein: "The time that I missed, [those] two years that I missed, I went to such ... I was in a bad place. Coming back and having a chance to be the Rookie of the Year, I think it's going to pay for all the sacrifices that I made."

Expounding on an interview he gave Sports Illustrated on the subject early in the season, Embiid explained that enduring two season-ending foot surgeries in his two seasons -- combined with the death of his teenaged brother, Arthur, in a car crash in October 2014 -- nearly led him to leave the sport and return to his native Cameroon.

"I was such in a dark place, I wanted to quit basketball," Embiid told ESPN Radio. "I just wanted to go back home and just leave everything behind.

"But, you know, coming into [this] season, one thing I thought was just, 'Come and have fun.' It's all about having fun. So all the dark days that I had back then, for me now, I think it's my time to have fun."

Embiid told ESPN Radio that he's "hopeful" of returning to the Sixers' lineup after the All-Star break "if I'm asymptomatic." The 22-year-old has missed Philadelphia's past 11 games (and 14 out of 15 overall) due to a bone bruise in his left knee.

"I'm not worried at all," Embiid said. "It's a bone bruise. [The media] talked about a meniscus [injury], but I'm being treated for the bone bruise.

"Our goal is for me to be asymptomatic and then, when that happens, I'm going to be back on the court."

Embiid added that he hopes to be cleared to play in some back-to-back situations during Philadelphia's final 26 regular-season games because he "wouldn't want to come into next season without having really seen what it's like to play back-to-back."

Embiid has played in 31 games this season and is averaging 20.2 points, 7.8 rebounds, 2.5 blocks in just 25.4 minutes. The fewest number of games played in league history for a Rookie of the Year winner is Patrick Ewing's 50 for the Knicks in 1985-86.

Regarding his success after losing two full seasons, Embiid said: "I think I'm more surprised than everybody else."

In Thursday's sit-down with ESPN Radio, Embiid acknowledged that games played is likely to be a factor in his Rookie of the Year candidacy but expressed confidence that teammateDario Saric would likely win "that trophy" if Embiid is ultimately bypassed by voters.

"I know my teammate, Dario, he's been playing great lately," Embiid said. "So If I don't win, I know it's going to stay on the team."

The recent knee trouble will prevent Embiid from participating in All-Star Weekend events -- he had been picked for the Rising Stars Challenge -- but he said he wanted to come to New Orleans regardless "to see how it is."
 
Timberwolves leadership says playoffs still a priority this season
  • Associated Press

MINNEAPOLIS -- The Minnesota Timberwolves enter the All-Star break in 13th place in the muddled Western Conference, seemingly faced with two options.

They can try to chase down the eighth seed and make the playoffs, with theDenver Nuggets just 3 1/2 games ahead of them. Or they could turn their eyes toward the lottery, either using a higher draft pick to add another talented young player or as an asset to move this summer in a quest for an accomplished veteran to complement a promising trio of young stars.

For Wolves owner Glen Taylor, president and coach Tom Thibodeau and GM Scott Layden, there is no debate.

"We're all of the same mind, to get in, get the experience," Taylor told The Associated Press. "Just the winning of games to try to get there is worth it. Our guys can't see anything positive about losing games. They must win games, and then if we can win enough to get into the playoffs, that in and of itself would be a major step for our young players."

The Timberwolves (22-35) have shrugged off a lousy start to show signs of improvement over the past 30 games, but there is an awful lot of work to do. Five teams are ahead of them in the race for a likely first-round date with the Golden State Warriors, and the young Wolves are still trying to get a firm grasp on Thibodeau's defensive system.

Making it more daunting, Zach LaVinehad surgery on a torn ACL on Tuesday and will miss the next nine months. That leaves 21-year-old Karl-Anthony Towns and 22-year-old Andrew Wiggins to carry the load, barring a trade before Thursday's deadline.

In the past two games before the break -- a loss to Cleveland and a win at Denver -- Wiggins became the second player in franchise history to score at least 40 points in back-to-back games. Towns has solidified himself as one of the best young big men in the game, averaging 28.4 points and 11.4 rebounds in the seven games since LaVine was injured.

"We're on the right path," Wiggins said after the loss to the Cavs. "We've done a lot of good things. There's still some stuff everyone needs to work on, but we've done some good things."

The Timberwolves are 11th in the league in offensive rating, but 23rd in defensive rating, a point of consternation for Thibodeau, who is known as one of the best defensive tacticians in the league. And a 6-18 start to the season put them in a deep hole. The Wolves are 11-9 in their past 20 games but still on pace for about 31 wins, which would be just a two-win increase over last season's team coached by Sam Mitchell.

"I thought with (Thibodeau's) experience and his mentoring, it would push it along a little faster," Taylor said. "And it hasn't gone as fast as we hoped. But I appreciate that he's looking at the long run. He came here to be the coach for the long run. We hired him for the long run. And we've got players that we anticipate will be here for a long time."

While disappointed in the win total, Taylor said he was bullish on the direction of the franchise.

"I'm happy with my coach. I'm happy with the general manager. They're being very patient working through this," Taylor said. "On the other side, I was hopeful that we would have more wins."

The one thing that appears to be missing is a strong, veteran, defense-minded presence to hold things together when the young guys either get too excited or lose focus.

"I know the guys will look at other alternatives, but I also know them well enough that they aren't going to do something foolish," Taylor said of the looming trade deadline. "They aren't going to do something that would hurt the team in the long run just to make us look good in the short run. This is a long-run game for all of us."

Taylor has thrown millions into a new practice facility that opened two years ago and a renovation to Target Center that began before the season started. He has also added two minority owners to strengthen his financial position, hired a new CEO in Ethan Casson and has been pleased with the developments on the business side of his operations.

"They can see I'm committed for the long run and we're making investments back into the team and building for the long run," Taylor said. "I think we've done all of those things. The only thing that hasn't lived up to our expectations is the number of wins I would've hoped we'd have to this point."
 
glad you mentioned him cause sixers were ready to deal okafor then embid went embid....
Dude on the humble, my Sixers are dry tanking again. The Kings recent success potentially fucking up that draft pick, we were winning more than expected so while he may have a tweak, that motherfucker isn't this type of 'hurt'. That's why they waited so long to disclose his 'injury'.

That's also why they may shelve Simmons for the whole season now. After this year our lottery pick changes dry up AND the next few drafts are weaker. These fools want either Fulkes, Smith or Ball and playing Embiid and bringing in Simmons would fuck that up.
 
Dude on the humble, my Sixers are dry tanking again. The Kings recent success potentially fucking up that draft pick, we were winning more than expected so while he may have a tweak, that motherfucker isn't this type of 'hurt'. That's why they waited so long to disclose his 'injury'.

That's also why they may shelve Simmons for the whole season now. After this year our lottery pick changes dry up AND the next few drafts are weaker. These fools want either Fulkes, Smith or Ball and playing Embiid and bringing in Simmons would fuck that up.

That's a shame then cause yall gotta learn to win sometime.
Yall were learning now.
 
Russell Westbrook Becomes 5th Straight Different Pre-ASG PER Leader
FEB 17, 2017 1:07 PM

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Russell Westbrook heads into the All-Star Game with a NBA-leading PER of 29.7, which is the lowest mark since LeBron James in the lockout-shortened 2011. The NBA has had a different leader in PER in each of the past five seasons since James' streak of six straight came to an end with Kevin Durant in 13-14.

Pre-ASG/Post-ASG/Total

16-17: Russell Westbrook: 29.7

15-16: Stephen Curry: 32.0 / 31.5 / 31.0

14-15: Anthony Davis: 31.6 / 28.8 / 30.7

13-14: Kevin Durant: 30.2 / 28.2 / 29.5

12-13: LeBron James: 31.1 / 32.3 / 31.5

11-12: LeBron James: 31.5 / 30.0 / 30.8

10-11: LeBron James: 26.4 / 29.3 / 27.4

09-10: LeBron James: 31.0 / 31.2 / 31.1

08-09: LeBron James: 31.4 / 32.1 / 31.7

07-08: LeBron James: 29.3 / 28.6 / 29.0

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06-07: Dwyane Wade: 29.1 / 18.2 / 28.1

05-06: LeBron James: 28.6 / 27.0 / 27.8

04-05: Kevin Garnett: 27.6 / 29.3 / 28.1

03-04: Kevin Garnett: 29.0 / 30.3 / 29.5

02-03: Tracy McGrady: 28.3 / 33.2 / 30.3

01-02: Shaquille O’Neal: 29.1 / 30.1 / 29.6

00-01: Shaquille O’Neal: 27.8 / 33.2 / 30.3

99-00: Shaquille O’Neal: 29.7 / 31.8 / 30.5

98-99: Shaquille O’Neal: 30.5 (no All-Star Game)

97-98: Shaquille O’Neal: 29.3 / 28.3 / 28.6

96-97: Michael Jordan: 29.0 / 25.9 / 27.7

95-96: David Robinson: 28.9 / 30.2 / 29.5

94-95: David Robinson: 28.6 / 29.6 / 29.0

93-94: David Robinson: 29.3 / 32.3 / 30.6

92-93: Michael Jordan: 29.0 / 31.3 / 29.8

91-92: David Robinson: 27.5 / 26.7 / 27.2

90-91: Michael Jordan: 31.2 / 32.0 / 31.5

89-90: Michael Jordan: 29.3 / 33.4 / 31.0

88-89: Michael Jordan: 31.7 / 30.3 / 31.1

87-88: Michael Jordan: 32.4 / 30.9 / 31.7

86-87: Michael Jordan: 27.5 / 32.4 / 29.7

85-86: Magic Johnson: 24.6 / 22.7 / 23.7
 
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